Re: Thank you Tammy! Wife's HIV and Cocktail LIfe vs. de...

[Guest guest]

Hi Bob,

You are welcome. As far as the statin drugs go, I'd personally would NEVER

take them. These things should be pulled off the market. They are one of the

most toxic drugs out there. Their side will either kill you or leave you

disabled and or miserable. If you do believe that high cholesterol leads to

heart

disease or heart attacks, I would find alternative ways to lower it. No

doctor can force you to take any drug. YOU are in charge of your health. He or

she

is working for you, not the other way around. Research every med before you

take them and every procedure you have and then make your decision on

knowledge. Most doctors don't have our best interests in mind and they know 2

things, drugs and surgery.

That must be heart wrenching seeing your son on meth. As you know meth is a

very hard drug to get off of permanently. I'm curious why you are afraid for

him to go on antidepressants? He can't get much worse if he's on meth. I

think way too many people take antidepressants but I know people, including

myself, who may not be here if it wasn't for them. I highly doubt they will

keep

him from using meth long term. But they may help him do what he has to do to

recover. If you could also get him to take the supplements on this program

that would be great.

The bottom line is people that use alcohol and or drugs have deep emotional

pain. I say this from experience. Your son isn't weak or a bad person. He's

hurting inside. When he gets to a place where he can deal with his pain,

that's when he will stop using. Finding a therapist he feels comfortable with is

the first step and a very difficult one. My hat goes off to you for sticking by

your son. I know this isn't easy.

Take care,

Tammy

In a message dated 11/21/2008 5:37:57 A.M. Central Standard Time,

thismanwillmakeyousay@... writes:

Thank you very much, you are right and this helps, it made my eyes water.

I need to tell you that I do not have chest pains but said that in order to

get my MD to a test (C protean reaction) I had to lie and say I have chest

pains to get her to pass me on to a cardiologist who can approve the simple

blood test. I worry now that I said that they will force me on statin drugs

even

if I don't want to.

One thing that helped me a lot was hearing your spin about anti depressants

in that, as if I did not have enough other problems my 30 year old son keeps

going back to Chrystal meth after giving it up for 5 years and people say he

is medicating his depression and docs and others think he should be on anti

depressants that I have been fighting but not sure I should and now I am going

to be more open to the idea after hearing from you, thank you.

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[Guest guest]

Hey Thanks one more time.   Good news about my son is his has done 2 two year

stints clean of meth and both times he just did it one or two times before he

stopped.  He has been working on getting his BS degree and he functions but does

a lot of pot.

 

On the other side of what you say about the statin drugs is like 8 people I know

who have been on the drugs for over years and report no problems at all other

than the time it takes to go in for a liver test once or twice a year.   Do you

or does anyone if the group know someone who had a bad experience from Statin?6

 

THanks Bob

 _,_._,___

[Guest guest]

Dear Tammy,

Would you please " trim your messages? " The instructions were emailed

to you when you joined this group, and they are posted on the Group's

Messages every 2 week (do a message search to find them).

Thank you so much, Bee

> Hi Bob,

> You are welcome. As far as the statin drugs go, I'd personally would

NEVER

> take them. These things should be pulled off the market. They are

one of the

> most toxic drugs out there. Their side will either kill you or leave

you

> disabled and or miserable. <snip>

[Guest guest]

>

> Hey Thanks one more time.   Good news about my son is his has done

2 two year stints clean of meth and both times he just did it one or

two times before he stopped.  He has been working on getting his BS

degree and he functions but does a lot of pot.

>  

> On the other side of what you say about the statin drugs is like 8

people I know who have been on the drugs for over years and report no

problems at all other than the time it takes to go in for a liver

test once or twice a year.   Do you or does anyone if the group know

someone who had a bad experience from Statin?6

+++Dear Bob. The natural way to lower cholesterol is by taking

Niacin (B3); start with smaller doses and gradually increase them.

There's information on it all over the internet, but don't use any

synthetic form of niacin, like niacinamide or non-flushing niacin.

Bee