Re: How would a vegetarian do this?

[Guest guest]

Hi Tammy,

I don't think there is anything that you could say or do that would

make your friends change their minds. I say this because I used to

be them! By that I mean that I was a vegetarian for 16 years before

converting to Bee's program in June. For me, it was an aversion

thing - the thought of meat disgusted me. It still does, actually,

but I've gotten over some of the disgust enough to actually eat it.

The thought of meat sometimes still gives me the dry heaves,

especially when I feel nauseated from die-off, but I eat it because I

want to get better. (On the really bad days, I eat fish! LOL!!!)

I tried many times to do a 'vegetarian anti-candida diet' but it's

just not possible.

I knew I had candida for those 16 years and still was in denial that

eating meat would make me better. Nothing anyone said to me would

get me to eat meat. It had to come from me. I did a lot of soul

searching to finally convert. I would think it would the same for

your friends, too. Nothing you will say will convince them. It will

have to come from them. Probably the only thing you can do is to

keep reporting your progress to them. If they see your improvements,

they might consider it.

I had to be really sick before I could even 'go there' with the whole

meat eating thing. It was more in desparation that I made the

change - it was my only option - I had to do it and I knew it. I

imagine it would probably be the same for them.

Here's an article about vegetarian myths:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/foods34.php

Hopefully something I said helps!

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> Bee,

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Unfortunately, they are both vegetarians. It is more than just for

ethical reasons, they both have a major aversion to eating meat.

What would someone like this do? <snip>

> Tammy

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[Guest guest]

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> Bee,

> I have two friends that I know would benefit tremendously from your

program.

> Unfortunately, they are both vegetarians. It is more than just for

ethical

> reasons, they both have a major aversion to eating meat. What

would someone

> like this do? Is there any way that they could do a program like

this? I

> have been sharing my journey with them and they see so much in the

program

> that resonates with them as being the right thing to do but then I

say the

> diet consists of meat, eggs (which they do eat), veggies and good

fats and

> they are immediately turned off and disregard it all together.

What would

> you tell them?

+++Hi Tammy. Unfortunately human bodies are not designed to be

healthy without animals meats, eggs, fish, etc. However we've had

many vegetarians on this group who have changed over to this diet

once they understood enough.

The best, Bee

[Guest guest]

> >

> > Bee,

> > I have two friends that I know would benefit tremendously from

your

> program.

> > Unfortunately, they are both vegetarians. It is more than just

for

> ethical

> > reasons, they both have a major aversion to eating meat. What

> would someone

> > like this do? Is there any way that they could do a program like

> this? I

> > have been sharing my journey with them and they see so much in

the

> program

> > that resonates with them as being the right thing to do but then

I

> say the

> > diet consists of meat, eggs (which they do eat), veggies and good

> fats and

> > they are immediately turned off and disregard it all together.

> What would

> > you tell them?

>

> +++Hi Tammy. Unfortunately human bodies are not designed to be

> healthy without animals meats, eggs, fish, etc. However we've had

> many vegetarians on this group who have changed over to this diet

> once they understood enough.

>

> The best, Bee

Tammy - I was a vegetarian for almost 30 years (though I did eat

eggs). It was when my health deteriorated greatly due to candida and

my diet that I knew that I had to change my eating to regain my

health.

My reasons for being a vegetarian were both ethical and an aversion

to the taste.

It was not easy, but I started with poultry, fish and have recently

added grass-fed beef. Though, I do eat a lot of eggs in comparison

to these. The aversion to the taste has changed (though it was not

immediate) - I do not mind the taste now.

The ethical reasons are still there if I think about it - but I

just " don't go there " . If I do start to think about it I just remind

myself that this way of eating is making me healthier - which it is.

Hope this helps - they can change if they want to and as Bee said,

when they understand.

>

[Guest guest]

Something I learned recently is that aversion to meat can be a sign of

copper toxicity. Something that vegetarians are prone to. When they do eat

meat, the zinc in the meat (which they desperately need) causes a copper

dump making them feel nauseous. Can even cause vomiting.

Irene

At 07:52 PM 12/3/2008, you wrote:

>Bee,

>

>I have two friends that I know would benefit tremendously from your program.

>Unfortunately, they are both vegetarians. It is more than just for ethical

>reasons, they both have a major aversion to eating meat. What would someone

>like this do? Is there any way that they could do a program like this? I

>have been sharing my journey with them and they see so much in the program

>that resonates with them as being the right thing to do but then I say the

>diet consists of meat, eggs (which they do eat), veggies and good fats and

>they are immediately turned off and disregard it all together. What would

>you tell them?

>

>Tammy

>

>

[Guest guest]

Wow! That's very interesting, Irene. It seems to make some sense to

me since I sometimes feel quite nauseated after eating. Thank

goodness we are all taking the good fats that will chelate the copper

out our systems. I wonder how it got there in the first place. Any

ideas?

Do you happen to have a link that refers to this information?

>

> Something I learned recently is that aversion to meat can be a sign

of

> copper toxicity. Something that vegetarians are prone to. When they

do eat

> meat, the zinc in the meat (which they desperately need) causes a

copper

> dump making them feel nauseous. Can even cause vomiting.

> Irene

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Well, vegetarian food is high in copper and low in zinc. If you become zinc

deficient then you will accumulate copper. Also if you live in an area

where the houses have copper pipes, you will have high exposure. There are

also other sources of copper exposure that I don't know off the top of my

head. If you have ever had an IUD, then you are definitely at risk. And

without zinc you can't excrete it.

I don't have a link for this. I heard it in a talk at the Weston Price

conference. If I find anything I will post it.

Irene

At 09:53 AM 12/4/2008, you wrote:

>Wow! That's very interesting, Irene. It seems to make some sense to

>me since I sometimes feel quite nauseated after eating. Thank

>goodness we are all taking the good fats that will chelate the copper

>out our systems. I wonder how it got there in the first place. Any

>ideas?

>

>Do you happen to have a link that refers to this information?

>

>

>

>

> >

> > Something I learned recently is that aversion to meat can be a sign

>of

> > copper toxicity. Something that vegetarians are prone to. When they

>do eat

> > meat, the zinc in the meat (which they desperately need) causes a

>copper

> > dump making them feel nauseous. Can even cause vomiting.

> > Irene

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

WOW, this is intersting, I was a vegeteratian for many years, why are

vegetarians pron to

copper toxicity?

@...: oxhahxo@...: Thu, 4 Dec 2008

17:53:59 +0000Subject: [ ] Re: How would a vegetarian do this?

Wow! That's very interesting, Irene. It seems to make some sense to me since I

sometimes feel quite nauseated after eating. Thank goodness we are all taking

the good fats that will chelate the copper out our systems. I wonder how it got

there in the first place. Any ideas?Do you happen to have a link that refers to

this information? >> Something I learned recently is that aversion to meat can be a sign of

> copper toxicity. Something that vegetarians are prone to. When they do eat >

meat, the zinc in the meat (which they desperately need) causes a copper > dump

making them feel nauseous. Can even cause vomiting.> Irene> > > [Non-text

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[Guest guest]

Because their diets are naturally low in zinc and high in copper. Once you

become zinc deficient you tend to accumulate copper.

Irene

At 12:12 PM 12/4/2008, you wrote:

>WOW, this is intersting, I was a vegeteratian for many years, why are

>vegetarians pron to

>copper toxicity?

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>Wow! That's very interesting, Irene. It seems to make some sense to me

>since I sometimes feel quite nauseated after eating. Thank goodness we are

>all taking the good fats that will chelate the copper out our systems. I

>wonder how it got there in the first place. Any ideas?Do you happen to

>have a link that refers to this information? >> Something I learned recently is that aversion to meat

>can be a sign of > copper toxicity. Something that vegetarians are prone

>to. When they do eat > meat, the zinc in the meat (which they desperately

>need) causes a copper > dump making them feel nauseous. Can even cause

>vomiting.> Irene> > >

[Guest guest]

Hi Edie,

here's a link about Copper Toxicity Syndrome.

http://www.drlwilson.com/articles/copper_toxicity_syndrome.htm

> WOW, this is intersting, I was a vegeteratian for many years, why are

vegetarians pron to

> copper toxicity?