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Hi Kendra,

I took depo for a while, but it killed my sex drive and I'm really not

fond of condoms, but am a good girl about them as needed. I'm quite

happy with Camilla which is a very low-dose progesin ill, also known as

Microonor. I don't menstruate at all on this, which is necessary for

me in order to keep my endometriosis in check.

Good luck with your choices,

Alana

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Sometimes I can't believe that I'd be thinking such things either.

But babies are so darn cute! And the BC was totally messing up my

body chemistry. :P

On Jul 20, 2007, at 1:29 PM, blueyedaze@... wrote:

> !!!!!! I can't even believe you. =) LOL! Honestly, the baby bug has

> been

> biting our asses hard lately, too. =P

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I think that's a fairly well-established fact, especially for me. :P

On Jul 20, 2007, at 1:55 PM, Milinovich wrote:

> Ya'll are nutz. That's all I'm saying :P

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In a message dated 7/20/2007 1:57:49 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

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Ya'll are nutz. That's all I'm saying :P

Hahah! Hell no cuz these tubes are TIED! I can dream of another all I want.

LOL!

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In a message dated 7/20/2007 4:12:00 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

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Sometimes I can't believe that I'd be thinking such things either.

But babies are so darn cute! And the BC was totally messing up my

body chemistry. :P

Well, I'm here for ya whatever may be! My womb has a big " closed " sign on

it, so I can live vacariously through you. ;) I held a five month old yesterday

and was like " need. one. NOW! " Heh.

Amy

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I have been on Depo for about 5 years now and I LOVE

IT!!! I wont get off it! I dont feel it is unhealthy

at all because it strips your lining so there is

nothing to shed, so there is no build up. On the pills

where you only have a period once every 3 or 4 months,

the blood in the lining isnt shed until you take the

sugar pills and let it shed, so that in my opinion

would be unhealthy if you went over the 3 or 4 month

timeline without taking the sugar pills. I havent had

any mood issues or other side effects on depo either.

My friend, non SMA did though. She bled for 3 straight

months. So it doesnt work for everyone, but it works

for me so I am set!

I have a friend with SMA who was on the pill and she

got a blood clot. It had nothing to do with her age or

smoking or whatnot, it was her lack of mobility. So I

refuse to take the pill as risk is much higher on

that.

--- Jenn Malatesta <nekrosys@...> wrote:

> Up until about a month ago, I had been on Depo shots

> or almost *10

> years*! Way, way too long in my opinion. At first

> it was nice not

> having a period, but then I began to feel maybe it

> wasn't so healthy

> after all. It definitely adversely affected my mood

> and I think it

> hasn't helped with my never ending quest to lose

> weight. I've not

> had any blood clots though.

>

> I just decided to take a break from birth control

> and take my

> chances. I honestly wouldn't mind having another

> kid at this point,

> especially because fiberoptic intubation has come

> such a long way in

> the past decade. I didn't have to be intubated

> while awake at all

> during my gallbladder surgery last year. Anyway,

> I'm feeling a bit

> better now that the hormones in my system are

> balancing out.

>

> My cousin is on the OrthoTriCyclen-LO now, also

> after being on Depo.

> She likes it much better.

>

> So I guess my advice is: avoid the depo shot

>

> On Jul 20, 2007, at 2:15 AM, Kendra wrote:

>

> > To all my fabulous ladies out there, I was hoping

> we could discuss

> > different methods of birth control you have used

> and which you

> > find/found better than others and why

>

> Jenn Malatesta

> nekrosys@...

> nekrosys.net

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My gynae put me on Triphysol after I was admitted to hospital with a cyst on my

ovary in 1997. The cyst was caused by taking too many pain killers during every

menstrual cycle. The gynae assured me the cyst wouldn't return (she was right),

but she didn't warn me against the side-effects (nausea, actual vomiting,

headaches, mood swings, lack of sexual drive, etc.) of Triphysol. Anyway, as

luck would have it, just when I decide to stop using Triphysol I became

seriously involved with a guy LOL...before that no1 was interested in me in that

way!

Fionna (SMA Type II)

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Re: Birth Control

Hi Kendra,

I took depo for a while, but it killed my sex drive and I'm really not

fond of condoms, but am a good girl about them as needed. I'm quite

happy with Camilla which is a very low-dose progesin ill, also known as

Microonor. I don't menstruate at all on this, which is necessary for

me in order to keep my endometriosis in check.

Good luck with your choices,

Alana

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*LMAO* That's what I said for about a year after each of my girls. NO WAY! Then

when they get a bit bigger and lose that " babyness " a little you start looking

around and thinking that it might not be so bad to have another little one in

the house.

My girls are 11 and 7 and right now I'm fighting off that bug like crazy!

I'm going to get completely done with school before I even allow myself to

really consider the possibility. That will be another 3 yrs or so! So by the

time I could actually have another my girls would be 11 and 15! Would I REALLY

want to start over at that point? UGH! For now I just borrow other people's

babies and give them back when they poop or cry *LOL*

Love and Hugs

Jeni

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In a message dated 7/20/2007 10:29:43 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

nekrosyscinci (DOT) rr.com writes:

I just decided to take a break from birth control and take my

chances. I honestly wouldn't mind having another kid at this point,

especially because fiberoptic intubation has come such a long way in

the past decade. I didn't have to be intubated while awake at all

during my gallbladder surgery last year. Anyway, I'm feeling a bit

better now that the hormones in my system are balancing out.

!!!!!! I can't even believe you. =) LOL! Honestly, the baby bug has been

biting our asses hard lately, too. =P

Amy

Wife to Will 11/3/95

Mama to Olivia Isabelle 9/18/03

&

Phineas Maximilian 11/30/05

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Kendra,

I started on BC pills in college. I was put on Orthrotricyclin (OTC) and

within a couple of months I was diagnosed and hospitalized w/a DVT in my leg.

Although I'm weak, I think I can move my limbs pretty well and was shocked I

still got a blood clot. I know you have much more mobility than I do and are

going to maybe try OTC Lo. Unfortunately there`was no lo when I started

taking BC pills. Just now you are at a higher risk for clots.

When I started dating and BC was more of an issue again, the docs

suggested progesterone only pills. I was also told about the IUD if the pills

didn't work to my liking. Besides birth control, I was hoping for less and

lighter periods. They were pushing me to go under for the IUD placement b/c

I'm

tiny and it would be extremely uncomfy for me. Like Alana, I'm now taking

Camilla. It took a few months but I have lighter and shorter periods. Since

its been 6 months, I'm trying to track my period and see if there's a

schedule. Supposedly progesterone, although taken everyday w/no sugar pills,

will

allow your body to get on its on cycle schedule and after a while it will be

predictable.

Hope this helps,

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In a message dated 7/20/2007 4:05:47 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

alrt@... writes:

Hi Kendra,

I took depo for a while, but it killed my sex drive and I'm really not

fond of condoms, but am a good girl about them as needed. I'm quite

happy with Camilla which is a very low-dose progesin ill, also known as

Microonor. I don't menstruate at all on this, which is necessary for

me in order to keep my endometriosis in check.

Good luck with your choices,

Alana

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  • 1 year later...

Had to take a dose of birth control (as plan B)...any advice to get

through this. Mostly dealing with nausea and sore throat and some

mucus. Should I continue on all 6 Tbsp of coconut oil...nystatin...pau

d'arco or reduce till i feel better?

Amy

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Bee,

Some of the discussion recently got me thinking about what safe birth

control options are available. I looked in your archives. I didn't see

anything about the sponge or the diaphragm. Would those be safe options or

do they utilize that nonoxynol 9 compound?

Chris

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Thanks . I had looked at that link initially and didn't find much

that was helpful. At second glance, however, I came across something called

the fertility monitor. It's a little computer that charts the presence of

hormones and predicts days that have high and low chances of conception.

I'm actually not looking for myself right now, but I do occasionally advise

others on these matters in my line of work. The pill always bothered me for

moral reasons.and then later health related reasons when I found out more

about it. It's nice that there are some other options out there.

Thanks for re-suggesting the page.

Chris

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On Behalf Of Stiles

Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2011 8:45 AM

Subject: Re: [ ] Re: Birth control

>

> Hi

>

I just wanted to point out that the article Bee posted mentions the rhythm

method, which is unreliable because it uses a generic model of a 28-day

cycle, which obviously many women deviate from. There's a link in that

article to another site that discusses natural family planning and other

methods which are NOT " the rhythm. " These other methods promote awareness

of your fertility by taking your temperature and checking your cervical

fluid. I recommend the books " Taking Charge of Your Fertility " by Toni

Weschler and " The Garden of Fertility " by Singer if you want to try

natural birth control.

>

>

>

> >

> > Bee,

> >>

> > Some of the discussion recently got me thinking about what safe birth

> control options are available. I looked in your archives. I didn't see

> anything about the sponge or the diaphragm. Would those be safe options or

> do they utilize that nonoxynol 9 compound?

>

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Anyone have any articles on why the pill is harmful. My girlfriend wants me to

convince her. Thanks. .

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On Apr 21, 2011, at 11:49 AM, " PB " <pb316@...> wrote:

> Thanks . I had looked at that link initially and didn't find much

> that was helpful. At second glance, however, I came across something called

> the fertility monitor. It's a little computer that charts the presence of

> hormones and predicts days that have high and low chances of conception.

>

> I'm actually not looking for myself right now, but I do occasionally advise

> others on these matters in my line of work. The pill always bothered me for

> moral reasons.and then later health related reasons when I found out more

> about it. It's nice that there are some other options out there.

>

> Thanks for re-suggesting the page.

>

> Chris

>

> From: [mailto: ]

> On Behalf Of Stiles

> Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2011 8:45 AM

>

> Subject: Re: [ ] Re: Birth control

>

> >

> > Hi

> >

>

> I just wanted to point out that the article Bee posted mentions the rhythm

> method, which is unreliable because it uses a generic model of a 28-day

> cycle, which obviously many women deviate from. There's a link in that

> article to another site that discusses natural family planning and other

> methods which are NOT " the rhythm. " These other methods promote awareness

> of your fertility by taking your temperature and checking your cervical

> fluid. I recommend the books " Taking Charge of Your Fertility " by Toni

> Weschler and " The Garden of Fertility " by Singer if you want to try

> natural birth control.

>

>

>

> >

> >

> >

> > >

> > > Bee,

> > >>

> > > Some of the discussion recently got me thinking about what safe birth

> > control options are available. I looked in your archives. I didn't see

> > anything about the sponge or the diaphragm. Would those be safe options or

> > do they utilize that nonoxynol 9 compound?

> >

>

>

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Hi all

This topic reminded me of what I went thru...son born in 1961 when I was age 18.

I went to the public library to find books on contraception but whoa ! First I

had to bring in my birth cert. & marriage license.

Then the nasty librarian agreed to order 2 books on contraception. Both books

gave a history of birth control thru 5,000 years, back when women inserted

empty seed pods into themselves in hopes no sperm would

reach its destination.

We've come a long way. Good luck. Susie

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>

> Bee,

>>

> Some of the discussion recently got me thinking about what safe birth control

options are available. I looked in your archives. I didn't see anything about

the sponge or the diaphragm. Would those be safe options or do they utilize

that nonoxynol 9 compound?

+++Hi

I am not familiar with nonoxynol 9 compound. Here's Alternative Birth Control

Options on my website:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/res1.php

All the best, Bee

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>

> Hi

>

I just wanted to point out that the article Bee posted mentions the rhythm

method, which is unreliable because it uses a generic model of a 28-day

cycle, which obviously many women deviate from. There's a link in that

article to another site that discusses natural family planning and other

methods which are NOT " the rhythm. " These other methods promote awareness

of your fertility by taking your temperature and checking your cervical

fluid. I recommend the books " Taking Charge of Your Fertility " by Toni

Weschler and " The Garden of Fertility " by Singer if you want to try

natural birth control.

>

>

>

> >

> > Bee,

> >>

> > Some of the discussion recently got me thinking about what safe birth

> control options are available. I looked in your archives. I didn't see

> anything about the sponge or the diaphragm. Would those be safe options or

> do they utilize that nonoxynol 9 compound?

>

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My husband and I faithfully use NFP or natural family planning technique which

involves watching your mucus to know when you have dropped an egg and then

refrain from intercourse while the mucus is clear and stringy! Sorry to be so

detailed but it works!!! That way you aren't following any set rhythm but your

own!!!!

>

> Bee,

>

>

>

> Some of the discussion recently got me thinking about what safe birth

> control options are available. I looked in your archives. I didn't see

> anything about the sponge or the diaphragm. Would those be safe options or

> do they utilize that nonoxynol 9 compound?

>

>

>

> Chris

>

>

>

>

>

>

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>

Bee, That link you sent me references nonoxynol-9, which I why I was curious

about it.

+++Hi

Sorry, I have not read the article for a long time, and I did not write it. It

was submitted by a member of this group April 12, 2006.

As the article states: Definitely avoid any condoms with the spermicide

Nonoxynol-9. It has been shown to cause tears in the vaginal tissue. From ALL

ABOUT Nonoxynol-9 Spermicide

But later studies in humans showed it could also damage the lining of the vagina

and the rectal membrane. The damaged membranes then can't block infectious

agents from entering the body.

So while the early studies showing that N-9 was effective in killing viral

agents weren't refuted, the later studies showed the damage the spermicide

caused to membranes outweighed any viral-killing benefit it provided, Mayer

explained.

Bee

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>

> Try www.ditchthepill.org. I found it earlier today.

>

+++Hi

I caution anyone about that website, even though they are correct about

synthetic hormones.

They are not correct about taking bio-identical hormones, since taking any kind

of hormones, whether natural or synthetic, has a much more powerful effect on

the body's health than other kinds of substances.

I learned about bio-identical hormones through my friend, when she was 70 years

old. Even though I warned her not to take them, she would not take my advice

since her Osteopathic doctor prescribed them. After taking bio-identical

hormones for 4 years she started bleeding, and got it checked out.

Her uterus was building up a lining as if she were pregnant, and she also had a

cyst on her ovary and a polyp in her uterus. She stopped taking them and within

4 months her bleeding stopped and the cyst and polyp disappeared.

The reason hormones have such a powerful effect on health is because hormones

have many functions as the body's messengers. They are referred to as

" signalers. " NOTE THIS: They are so important that all other signals within the

cells are ignored when a hormonal signal is sent.

Not only do hormones send signals throughout the body to keep the communications

lines open, but they also can help perform specific biochemical functions. For

example, if you cut yourself, your body sends out signals to repair and replace

tissues, which are growth hormones.

The main reason women have female-related problems is because their sex

hormones, such as estrogen, progesterone, etc. are imbalanced and/or lacking.

There are two types of hormones in the body:

1) Anabolic hormones that involve anabolic processes (anabolism), build

molecules, tissues and even organs in the body, which includes sex hormones,

insulin, and growth hormones produced in the pituitary gland in the head which

are responsible for tissues repair, cell regeneration, and building new tissues

as needed.

2) Catabolic hormones that involve catabolic processes (canabolism), break down

substances into

simpler ones, which include thyroid hormones which function as general

stimulators of many cellular reactions, hormones produced by the adrenal glands

such as cortisol, and others.

The body strives to always balance out its anabolic and catabolic processes,

however when it is unhealthy it isn't as able to balance them as it could when

it is healthy.

Also toxins, including birth control pills, drugs, etc. make all of the body's

cell membranes stiff/rigid, which means any organs or tissues involved in

producing hormones are not as able to do their job (function normally), and

hormones that may be produced are not as able to get into stiff/rigid cells

where they are needed to do their job.

Such imbalances in hormones can happen long before puberty, and it can start

before birth due to a poor " nutritional status " acquired from parents upon

conception.

The best in health, Bee

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> Hi all

> This topic reminded me of what I went thru...son born in 1961 when I was age

18. I went to the public library to find books on contraception but whoa !

First I had to bring in my birth cert. & marriage license.

> Then the nasty librarian agreed to order 2 books on contraception. Both

books gave a history of birth control thru 5,000 years, back when women

inserted empty seed pods into themselves in hopes no sperm would

> reach its destination.

> We've come a long way.

+++Hi Susie,

That is oh so very true my friend! We have come a long ways for sure.

xxxooo, Bee

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