Guest guest Posted February 3, 2011 Report Share Posted February 3, 2011 Doctors will tell you that as far as addiction is concerned Miralax is probably the best. They told me that when used long term it won't cause your body to lose the ability to handle it on its own. It is my understanding that it is derived from oil, as in the fossil fuel kind. That bothers me, personally. Aside from that there are a few options. I went through constipation issues with my 3 1/2 year old. You've got, in my experience, stimulants, lubricants and things that bulk the stool. Coffee stimulates for me. It was recommended that my daughter take 1 tbsp flaxseed oil to help lubricate. Then keep the fiber up (but do it gradually if you don't normally eat a lot of fiber or you'll end up in lots of discomfort). When you increase your fiber, you need to increase your water intake. The amount you need depends on how active you are and such. I've heard anything from 6 to 8 glasses a day to an equal amount of ounces to your weight. I don't know if you already know any of that but it's worth mentioning and I hope it helps if you haven't tried it before! Janelle On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 6:46 PM, secapps51 <moqui51@...> wrote: > I am hypothyroid/hashimotos. I do just fine on synthroid, but every so often the constipation acts up. > > I take mirlax on a regular basis, but would like to find something more natural that would help. I have done the prunes and that doesn't make any difference. > > I have read about taking vinegar with water in the mornings, and also taking molassas in water. I have no idea how either of these would work, but I am willing to try anything. > > What I find is that I am fine for a while, then all of a sudden it gets worse. I wonder if that is when I need an increase in the thyroid meds. > > Any suggestions on curing constipation once and for all? And, it is harmful to be using mirlax all the time? > > Thanks, Susie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2011 Report Share Posted February 4, 2011 Try taking 1000 mgs of magnesium. I'd suggest starting with 250mgs size pills or capsules so that if you need to back up you can easily. 50 after breakfast and 50 after dinner should make a very noticeable difference. <>Roni Immortality exists! It's called knowledge! Just because something isn't seen doesn't mean it's not there<> From: secapps51 <moqui51@...> Subject: Constipation/IBS hypothyroidism Date: Thursday, February 3, 2011, 3:46 PM I am hypothyroid/hashimotos. I do just fine on synthroid, but every so often the constipation acts up. I take mirlax on a regular basis, but would like to find something more natural that would help. I have done the prunes and that doesn't make any difference. I have read about taking vinegar with water in the mornings, and also taking molassas in water. I have no idea how either of these would work, but I am willing to try anything. What I find is that I am fine for a while, then all of a sudden it gets worse. I wonder if that is when I need an increase in the thyroid meds. Any suggestions on curing constipation once and for all? And, it is harmful to be using mirlax all the time? Thanks, Susie ------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2011 Report Share Posted February 4, 2011 Thanks Janelle and Roni, I also worry about the mirlax because of the fuel issue. I can't wrap my head around that being good for me forever. But, that seems to be the only thing that really has worked consistantly for me. I take as little as possible, but I need it almost every day it seems. I tried magnesium, but I think I only did 250 mg each day, so maybe upping that amount would be worth a try Roni. I take ground flaxseed and mix about 2 T with juice and drink that also. I have not tried the oil. Benefiber did not work for me, psysillium works, but I don't really like it, and it doesn't work the same as mirlax for me. I have more discomfort with the psysillium. I try my best to drink more water, but I sometimes forget. I drink 3 cups of decaf coffee a day and 1 to 2 cups of decaf green tea, then add water when I remember. My diet is more fresh veggies and fruits and whole grain everything. I am doing my part, but my body still doesn't cooperate. I do have the IBS confirmed by a colonoscopy. From what I am reading, this problem doesn't have a one size fits all solution and people have to search until they find what works for them. I just want to find something that works all the time, but maybe changing it up once in a while is better. Thanks for the suggestions, I will try " almost " anything once! Susie > > Doctors will tell you that as far as addiction is concerned Miralax is > probably the best. They told me that when used long term it won't > cause your body to lose the ability to handle it on its own. It is my > understanding that it is derived from oil, as in the fossil fuel kind. > That bothers me, personally. > > Aside from that there are a few options. I went through constipation > issues with my 3 1/2 year old. You've got, in my experience, > stimulants, lubricants and things that bulk the stool. Coffee > stimulates for me. It was recommended that my daughter take 1 tbsp > flaxseed oil to help lubricate. Then keep the fiber up (but do it > gradually if you don't normally eat a lot of fiber or you'll end up in > lots of discomfort). When you increase your fiber, you need to > increase your water intake. The amount you need depends on how active > you are and such. I've heard anything from 6 to 8 glasses a day to an > equal amount of ounces to your weight. > > I don't know if you already know any of that but it's worth mentioning > and I hope it helps if you haven't tried it before! > > Janelle > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2011 Report Share Posted February 4, 2011 Thanks Janelle and Roni, I also worry about the mirlax because of the fuel issue. I can't wrap my head around that being good for me forever. But, that seems to be the only thing that really has worked consistantly for me. I take as little as possible, but I need it almost every day it seems. I tried magnesium, but I think I only did 250 mg each day, so maybe upping that amount would be worth a try Roni. I take ground flaxseed and mix about 2 T with juice and drink that also. I have not tried the oil. Benefiber did not work for me, psysillium works, but I don't really like it, and it doesn't work the same as mirlax for me. I have more discomfort with the psysillium. I try my best to drink more water, but I sometimes forget. I drink 3 cups of decaf coffee a day and 1 to 2 cups of decaf green tea, then add water when I remember. My diet is more fresh veggies and fruits and whole grain everything. I am doing my part, but my body still doesn't cooperate. I do have the IBS confirmed by a colonoscopy. From what I am reading, this problem doesn't have a one size fits all solution and people have to search until they find what works for them. I just want to find something that works all the time, but maybe changing it up once in a while is better. Thanks for the suggestions, I will try " almost " anything once! Susie > > Doctors will tell you that as far as addiction is concerned Miralax is > probably the best. They told me that when used long term it won't > cause your body to lose the ability to handle it on its own. It is my > understanding that it is derived from oil, as in the fossil fuel kind. > That bothers me, personally. > > Aside from that there are a few options. I went through constipation > issues with my 3 1/2 year old. You've got, in my experience, > stimulants, lubricants and things that bulk the stool. Coffee > stimulates for me. It was recommended that my daughter take 1 tbsp > flaxseed oil to help lubricate. Then keep the fiber up (but do it > gradually if you don't normally eat a lot of fiber or you'll end up in > lots of discomfort). When you increase your fiber, you need to > increase your water intake. The amount you need depends on how active > you are and such. I've heard anything from 6 to 8 glasses a day to an > equal amount of ounces to your weight. > > I don't know if you already know any of that but it's worth mentioning > and I hope it helps if you haven't tried it before! > > Janelle > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2011 Report Share Posted February 4, 2011 My responses are below: On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 11:13 AM, secapps51 <moqui51@...> wrote: > I take ground flaxseed and mix about 2 T with juice and drink that also. I have not tried the oil. Flax seed is good, too. I saw a homeopathic doctor once who told me that eating seeds like flax seed (whole, not ground) is thought to help break up the stool, while the ground helps bulk the stool, and the oil helps lube the stool. > Benefiber did not work for me, psysillium works, but I don't really like it, and it doesn't work the same as mirlax for me. I have more discomfort with the psysillium. I would say if you're getting enough fruits and veggies that you probably don't need the added fiber that psyllium provides. > I try my best to drink more water, but I sometimes forget. I drink 3 cups of decaf coffee a day and 1 to 2 cups of decaf green tea, then add water when I remember. My midwife gave me a pdf once that explained the water issue. I set a timer while I was pregnant and needed all that extra water. Every 60 minutes I drank 8 ounces. Maybe you could do something like that? I'm terrible about water consumption, too. > My diet is more fresh veggies and fruits and whole grain everything. I am doing my part, but my body still doesn't cooperate. I do have the IBS confirmed by a colonoscopy. It's been years since I was looking at IBS. How do they confirm my colonoscopy now? It used to be that once you tried *everything* other possibility as a diagnosis that they would then label you IBS. > From what I am reading, this problem doesn't have a one size fits all solution and people have to search until they find what works for them. I just want to find something that works all the time, but maybe changing it up once in a while is better. Very true. I don't think anything in life has a one size fits all solution. Probiotics/fermented foods are also very beneficial. The problem with anything in a pill or package at the store is that you don't know how it was transported, if it was subjected to high temperatures, if it's even still *alive*. However I have had good results with fermented ginger carrots and sauerkraut (which you can read about here: http://www.wildfermentation.com/resources.php?page=sauerkraut). Just 1 tbsp a day and work yourself up so you don't overload your system. Janelle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2011 Report Share Posted February 4, 2011 Make sure you take your magnesium at least 4 hours after your thyroid meds. My doc recommends vitamin C flushes. I just did one. It was a rough day for sure, but I definitely lost a lot of my fatigue. It has the effect of cleaning you out (thus the term " flush " , but many IBS sufferers report long term benefits. YMMV Here's a link: http://www.endfatigue.com/tools-support/vitamin-c-flush.html > > > From: secapps51 <moqui51@...> > Subject: Constipation/IBS > hypothyroidism > Date: Thursday, February 3, 2011, 3:46 PM > > > I am hypothyroid/hashimotos. I do just fine on synthroid, but every so often the constipation acts up. > > I take mirlax on a regular basis, but would like to find something more natural that would help. I have done the prunes and that doesn't make any difference. > > I have read about taking vinegar with water in the mornings, and also taking molassas in water. I have no idea how either of these would work, but I am willing to try anything. > > What I find is that I am fine for a while, then all of a sudden it gets worse. I wonder if that is when I need an increase in the thyroid meds. > > Any suggestions on curing constipation once and for all? And, it is harmful to be using mirlax all the time? > > Thanks, Susie > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2011 Report Share Posted February 4, 2011 Trying to increase your fiber should be just fine. If you need a WONDERFUL supplement you can try super seed. It is from Garden of Life and can be bought at a health food store. Or you can get it cheaper at www beyondprobiotics.net CW " " He shall cover thee with his feathers, and under his wings shalt thou trust. " " Psalm 91:4 -- Constipation/IBS I am hypothyroid/hashimotos. I do just fine on synthroid, but every so often the constipation acts up. I take mirlax on a regular basis, but would like to find something more natural that would help. I have done the prunes and that doesn't make any difference. I have read about taking vinegar with water in the mornings, and also taking molassas in water. I have no idea how either of these would work, but I am willing to try anything. What I find is that I am fine for a while, then all of a sudden it gets worse. I wonder if that is when I need an increase in the thyroid meds. Any suggestions on curing constipation once and for all? And, it is harmful to be using mirlax all the time? Thanks, Susie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2011 Report Share Posted February 4, 2011 I took Roni's advice on the magnesium a few months ago, and it really does help! I am only taking 133 mg. a day, and I should be taking more, but even that amount seems to help alot... ginny > > > From: secapps51 <moqui51@...> > Subject: Constipation/IBS > hypothyroidism > Date: Thursday, February 3, 2011, 3:46 PM > > > I am hypothyroid/hashimotos. I do just fine on synthroid, but every so often the constipation acts up. > > I take mirlax on a regular basis, but would like to find something more natural that would help. I have done the prunes and that doesn't make any difference. > > I have read about taking vinegar with water in the mornings, and also taking molassas in water. I have no idea how either of these would work, but I am willing to try anything. > > What I find is that I am fine for a while, then all of a sudden it gets worse. I wonder if that is when I need an increase in the thyroid meds. > > Any suggestions on curing constipation once and for all? And, it is harmful to be using mirlax all the time? > > Thanks, Susie > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2011 Report Share Posted February 5, 2011 Dave, Why do we need to take magnesium 4 hours away from thyroid med? From: Dave <dcbaden@...> Subject: Re: Constipation/IBS hypothyroidism Date: Friday, February 4, 2011, 8:56 AM Make sure you take your magnesium at least 4 hours after your thyroid meds. My doc recommends vitamin C flushes. I just did one. It was a rough day for sure, but I definitely lost a lot of my fatigue. It has the effect of cleaning you out (thus the term " flush " , but many IBS sufferers report long term benefits. YMMV Here's a link: http://www.endfatigue.com/tools-support/vitamin-c-flush.html > > > From: secapps51 <moqui51@...> > Subject: Constipation/IBS > hypothyroidism > Date: Thursday, February 3, 2011, 3:46 PM > > > I am hypothyroid/hashimotos. I do just fine on synthroid, but every so often the constipation acts up. > > I take mirlax on a regular basis, but would like to find something more natural that would help. I have done the prunes and that doesn't make any difference. > > I have read about taking vinegar with water in the mornings, and also taking molassas in water. I have no idea how either of these would work, but I am willing to try anything. > > What I find is that I am fine for a while, then all of a sudden it gets worse. I wonder if that is when I need an increase in the thyroid meds. > > Any suggestions on curing constipation once and for all? And, it is harmful to be using mirlax all the time? > > Thanks, Susie > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2011 Report Share Posted February 5, 2011 Because it interferes with T4. <>Roni Immortality exists! It's called knowledge! Just because something isn't seen doesn't mean it's not there<> From: Dave <dcbaden@...> Subject: Re: Constipation/IBS hypothyroidism Date: Friday, February 4, 2011, 8:56 AM Make sure you take your magnesium at least 4 hours after your thyroid meds. My doc recommends vitamin C flushes. I just did one. It was a rough day for sure, but I definitely lost a lot of my fatigue. It has the effect of cleaning you out (thus the term " flush " , but many IBS sufferers report long term benefits. YMMV Here's a link: http://www.endfatigue.com/tools-support/vitamin-c-flush.html > > > From: secapps51 <moqui51@...> > Subject: Constipation/IBS > hypothyroidism > Date: Thursday, February 3, 2011, 3:46 PM > > > I am hypothyroid/hashimotos. I do just fine on synthroid, but every so often the constipation acts up. > > I take mirlax on a regular basis, but would like to find something more natural that would help. I have done the prunes and that doesn't make any difference. > > I have read about taking vinegar with water in the mornings, and also taking molassas in water. I have no idea how either of these would work, but I am willing to try anything. > > What I find is that I am fine for a while, then all of a sudden it gets worse. I wonder if that is when I need an increase in the thyroid meds. > > Any suggestions on curing constipation once and for all? And, it is harmful to be using mirlax all the time? > > Thanks, Susie > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2011 Report Share Posted February 5, 2011 Thanks Janelle, I think the normal way to diagnose IBS is like you mentioned...really just guess work. And, you can't always find it with a colonoscopy either. I was fortunate that I needed the colonoscopy and during the colonoscopy they could see my colon spasam. I have been this way all my life, so I think it is just something I was born with. I forgot I tried some probiotics from GNC for about 2 months and did not see any change or improvement, so then I switched to Digestive enzymes and have been trying those for 3 months. They don't really seem to make any difference on the constipation, but I think they help to prevent acid reflux. Dave mentioned Vit C and I had forgotten about that. Vit C does work for me, but it upsets my stomach. Is there any way to get around that? I think I had to take between 1000 and 2000 per day to keep me regular. That would be the best solution if I can save my stomach. But, since I have not tried it in a while, I can't be sure it will still work for me. Has anyone tried the vinegar in water, or molassas in water? I don't understand why they would work, but I read a few people have used this and it worked. And yes, I am bad about drinking water throughout the day. I just forget. I guess I need to set that timer and just do it. Susie > > It's been years since I was looking at IBS. How do they confirm my > colonoscopy now? It used to be that once you tried *everything* other > possibility as a diagnosis that they would then label you IBS. > > Very true. I don't think anything in life has a one size fits all > solution. Probiotics/fermented foods are also very beneficial. > The problem with anything in a pill or package at the store is that > you don't know how it was transported, if it was subjected to high > temperatures, if it's even still *alive*. However I have had good > results with fermented ginger carrots and sauerkraut (which you can > read about here: > http://www.wildfermentation.com/resources.php?page=sauerkraut). Just > 1 tbsp a day and work yourself up so you don't overload your system. > > > Janelle > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2011 Report Share Posted February 6, 2011 Magnesium definitely works. You need to take between 500mgs and 1000mgs in divided doses daily. <>Roni Immortality exists! It's called knowledge! Just because something isn't seen doesn't mean it's not there<> From: secapps51 <moqui51@...> Subject: Re: Constipation/IBS hypothyroidism Date: Saturday, February 5, 2011, 4:52 AM Thanks Janelle, I think the normal way to diagnose IBS is like you mentioned...really just guess work. And, you can't always find it with a colonoscopy either. I was fortunate that I needed the colonoscopy and during the colonoscopy they could see my colon spasam. I have been this way all my life, so I think it is just something I was born with. I forgot I tried some probiotics from GNC for about 2 months and did not see any change or improvement, so then I switched to Digestive enzymes and have been trying those for 3 months. They don't really seem to make any difference on the constipation, but I think they help to prevent acid reflux. Dave mentioned Vit C and I had forgotten about that. Vit C does work for me, but it upsets my stomach. Is there any way to get around that? I think I had to take between 1000 and 2000 per day to keep me regular. That would be the best solution if I can save my stomach. But, since I have not tried it in a while, I can't be sure it will still work for me. Has anyone tried the vinegar in water, or molassas in water? I don't understand why they would work, but I read a few people have used this and it worked. And yes, I am bad about drinking water throughout the day. I just forget. I guess I need to set that timer and just do it. Susie > > It's been years since I was looking at IBS. How do they confirm my > colonoscopy now? It used to be that once you tried *everything* other > possibility as a diagnosis that they would then label you IBS. > > Very true. I don't think anything in life has a one size fits all > solution. Probiotics/fermented foods are also very beneficial. > The problem with anything in a pill or package at the store is that > you don't know how it was transported, if it was subjected to high > temperatures, if it's even still *alive*. However I have had good > results with fermented ginger carrots and sauerkraut (which you can > read about here: > http://www.wildfermentation.com/resources.php?page=sauerkraut). Just > 1 tbsp a day and work yourself up so you don't overload your system. > > > Janelle > ------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2011 Report Share Posted February 6, 2011 Is there such a thing as magnesium toxicity? Sent from my iPod On Feb 6, 2011, at 12:15 AM, Roni Molin <matchermaam@...> wrote: > Magnesium definitely works. You need to take between 500mgs and 1000mgs in divided doses daily. > > > <>Roni > Immortality exists! > It's called knowledge! > > Just because something isn't seen > doesn't mean it's not there<> > > > > > From: secapps51 <moqui51@...> > Subject: Re: Constipation/IBS > hypothyroidism > Date: Saturday, February 5, 2011, 4:52 AM > > > Thanks Janelle, > I think the normal way to diagnose IBS is like you mentioned...really just guess work. And, you can't always find it with a colonoscopy either. I was fortunate that I needed the colonoscopy and during the colonoscopy they could see my colon spasam. I have been this way all my life, so I think it is just something I was born with. > > I forgot I tried some probiotics from GNC for about 2 months and did not see any change or improvement, so then I switched to Digestive enzymes and have been trying those for 3 months. They don't really seem to make any difference on the constipation, but I think they help to prevent acid reflux. > > Dave mentioned Vit C and I had forgotten about that. Vit C does work for me, but it upsets my stomach. Is there any way to get around that? I think I had to take between 1000 and 2000 per day to keep me regular. That would be the best solution if I can save my stomach. But, since I have not tried it in a while, I can't be sure it will still work for me. > > Has anyone tried the vinegar in water, or molassas in water? I don't understand why they would work, but I read a few people have used this and it worked. > > And yes, I am bad about drinking water throughout the day. I just forget. I guess I need to set that timer and just do it. > > Susie > > >> >> It's been years since I was looking at IBS. How do they confirm my >> colonoscopy now? It used to be that once you tried *everything* other >> possibility as a diagnosis that they would then label you IBS. >> >> Very true. I don't think anything in life has a one size fits all >> solution. Probiotics/fermented foods are also very beneficial. >> The problem with anything in a pill or package at the store is that >> you don't know how it was transported, if it was subjected to high >> temperatures, if it's even still *alive*. However I have had good >> results with fermented ginger carrots and sauerkraut (which you can >> read about here: >> http://www.wildfermentation.com/resources.php?page=sauerkraut). Just >> 1 tbsp a day and work yourself up so you don't overload your system. >> >> >> Janelle >> > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2011 Report Share Posted February 6, 2011 I am going out today to get the magnesium.....before I overdose on Mirlax. LOL If I take the 1000 mg do I divide it up 4 times a day? I don't know what is up the last few weeks. Nothing is working. It is driving me nuts. Of couse it might be that my dose of snythroid needs to be adjusted. I seem to need to adjust about once or twice a year. I also wonder if I need to have my t3 tested? Am I correct on that one? The synthroid helps the t4, but not the t3? Thanks, Susie > > > > It's been years since I was looking at IBS. How do they confirm my > > colonoscopy now? It used to be that once you tried *everything* other > > possibility as a diagnosis that they would then label you IBS. > > > > Very true. I don't think anything in life has a one size fits all > > solution. Probiotics/fermented foods are also very beneficial. > > The problem with anything in a pill or package at the store is that > > you don't know how it was transported, if it was subjected to high > > temperatures, if it's even still *alive*. However I have had good > > results with fermented ginger carrots and sauerkraut (which you can > > read about here: > > http://www.wildfermentation.com/resources.php?page=sauerkraut). Just > > 1 tbsp a day and work yourself up so you don't overload your system. > > > > > > Janelle > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2011 Report Share Posted February 6, 2011 Susie, You wrote: > I am going out today to get the magnesium.....before I overdose on > Mirlax. You can get too much Mg, too. Proceed with caution. > ... The synthroid helps the t4, but not the t3? Synthroid _IS_ T4. If your enzymes (mostly in the liver but also in other tissues) are working correctly, Synthroid should convert to the T3 level you need. However, there are other things that can go wrong besides conversion. Ideally, you want to measure FT3 (free T3), but some panels deduce FT3 from FT4 and total T4, since the ratios, FT3/T3 and FT4/T4, should be the same. If FT3 is in the upper end of its reference range, and you still have symptoms, then you should check RT3, which is another way that conversion can go wrong, making too much RT3 instead of T3. FT3 is the critically functioning component to measure, but since its concentration is only a fraction of a percent of the T4, it is both more difficult to measure accurately and more expensive. That is why some doctors and medical insurers are reluctant to order it and prefer to infer it from the less expensive parts of the conventional thyroid panels. In case we haven't already asked, are you taking Synthroid properly? The most common problem we seem to run into on this list is noncompliance with food and mineral supplements. Chuck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2011 Report Share Posted February 6, 2011 Can you clarify the food/mineral supplements issue? Janelle On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 11:07 AM, ChuckB <gumboyaya@...> wrote: > In case we haven't already asked, are you taking Synthroid properly? The > most common problem we seem to run into on this list is noncompliance > with food and mineral supplements. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2011 Report Share Posted February 6, 2011 If going the vitamin C route, try buffered Vit. C - brand name Esther C. Should be easier on the stomach. > > > > It's been years since I was looking at IBS. How do they confirm my > > colonoscopy now? It used to be that once you tried *everything* other > > possibility as a diagnosis that they would then label you IBS. > > > > Very true. I don't think anything in life has a one size fits all > > solution. Probiotics/fermented foods are also very beneficial. > > The problem with anything in a pill or package at the store is that > > you don't know how it was transported, if it was subjected to high > > temperatures, if it's even still *alive*. However I have had good > > results with fermented ginger carrots and sauerkraut (which you can > > read about here: > > http://www.wildfermentation.com/resources.php?page=sauerkraut). Just > > 1 tbsp a day and work yourself up so you don't overload your system. > > > > > > Janelle > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2011 Report Share Posted February 6, 2011 The only thing that will happen is that you have to back off the dose because of diahhrea. That's sort of a self regulaor. Also, all the minerals in our bodies, AFAIK are blood testable, in fact I was just tested for magnesium and potassium on Friday. I should have the results on Monday. Roni <>Roni Immortality exists! It's called knowledge! Just because something isn't seen doesn't mean it's not there<> > > > From: secapps51 <moqui51@...> > Subject: Re: Constipation/IBS > hypothyroidism > Date: Saturday, February 5, 2011, 4:52 AM > > > Thanks Janelle, > I think the normal way to diagnose IBS is like you mentioned...really just guess work. And, you can't always find it with a colonoscopy either. I was fortunate that I needed the colonoscopy and during the colonoscopy they could see my colon spasam. I have been this way all my life, so I think it is just something I was born with. > > I forgot I tried some probiotics from GNC for about 2 months and did not see any change or improvement, so then I switched to Digestive enzymes and have been trying those for 3 months. They don't really seem to make any difference on the constipation, but I think they help to prevent acid reflux. > > Dave mentioned Vit C and I had forgotten about that. Vit C does work for me, but it upsets my stomach. Is there any way to get around that? I think I had to take between 1000 and 2000 per day to keep me regular. That would be the best solution if I can save my stomach. But, since I have not tried it in a while, I can't be sure it will still work for me. > > Has anyone tried the vinegar in water, or molassas in water? I don't understand why they would work, but I read a few people have used this and it worked. > > And yes, I am bad about drinking water throughout the day. I just forget. I guess I need to set that timer and just do it. > > Susie > > >> >> It's been years since I was looking at IBS. How do they confirm my >> colonoscopy now? It used to be that once you tried *everything* other >> possibility as a diagnosis that they would then label you IBS. >> >> Very true. I don't think anything in life has a one size fits all >> solution. Probiotics/fermented foods are also very beneficial. >> The problem with anything in a pill or package at the store is that >> you don't know how it was transported, if it was subjected to high >> temperatures, if it's even still *alive*. However I have had good >> results with fermented ginger carrots and sauerkraut (which you can >> read about here: >> http://www.wildfermentation.com/resources.php?page=sauerkraut). Just >> 1 tbsp a day and work yourself up so you don't overload your system. >> >> >> Janelle >> > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2011 Report Share Posted February 6, 2011 I buy 250mg tabs of the magnesium. This way I take one after breakfast and lunch and then either one or two after dinner depending on how my bowels are doing. That way I have control over it, and don't have to suffer or call the doctor all the time. As far as the Synthroid, I would have my FreeT3 and FreeT4 tested. The endos go by the TSH, but I absolutely know for certain that it does not tell the whole picture. Even the two tests I just mentioned don't tell the whole picture if you are having trouble with it, but it's certainly going to give much more information than TSH alone. However, I can't stress enogh that you need to get a hard copy of your lab sheet. If you will print your results with the norms we can help you with the interpretation. It's definitely not enough for your doctor to just say things like " your're fine, or you're normal. " <>Roni Immortality exists! It's called knowledge! Just because something isn't seen doesn't mean it's not there<> From: secapps51 <moqui51@...> Subject: Re: Constipation/IBS hypothyroidism Date: Sunday, February 6, 2011, 7:03 AM I am going out today to get the magnesium.....before I overdose on Mirlax. LOL If I take the 1000 mg do I divide it up 4 times a day? I don't know what is up the last few weeks. Nothing is working. It is driving me nuts. Of couse it might be that my dose of snythroid needs to be adjusted. I seem to need to adjust about once or twice a year. I also wonder if I need to have my t3 tested? Am I correct on that one? The synthroid helps the t4, but not the t3? Thanks, Susie > > > > It's been years since I was looking at IBS. How do they confirm my > > colonoscopy now? It used to be that once you tried *everything* other > > possibility as a diagnosis that they would then label you IBS. > > > > Very true. I don't think anything in life has a one size fits all > > solution. Probiotics/fermented foods are also very beneficial. > > The problem with anything in a pill or package at the store is that > > you don't know how it was transported, if it was subjected to high > > temperatures, if it's even still *alive*. However I have had good > > results with fermented ginger carrots and sauerkraut (which you can > > read about here: > > http://www.wildfermentation.com/resources.php?page=sauerkraut). Just > > 1 tbsp a day and work yourself up so you don't overload your system. > > > > > > Janelle > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2011 Report Share Posted February 6, 2011 I had the best luck with Magnesium glycinate and bowel tolerance. I have used several brands with good success. Joan I buy 250mg tabs of the magnesium. This way I take one after breakfast and lunch and then either one or two after dinner depending on how my bowels are doing. That way I have control over it, and don't have to suffer or call the doctor all the time. A <>Roni Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2011 Report Share Posted February 6, 2011 Janelle, You wrote: > Can you clarify the food/mineral supplements issue? Sure, Synthroid should be taken at least one hour before and four hours after all foods, and at least four hours away from mineral supplements, particularly calcium, iron, and magnesium. " Food " includes drinks other than water. Sadly, this means coffee. T4 forms complexes with these, preventing absorption. T3 can be taken with food but not the supplements. Your pharmacist should put these directions on your meds or supply them with an insert. Chuck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2011 Report Share Posted February 6, 2011 Is that the same for Armour? I never knew about the food thing until I took levothyroxine while pregnant. I'm not perfect, especially having to take 60mg of Armour at two seperate times throughout the day (or else I get debilitating anxiety which is apparently a hyper symptom?) and trying to time food intake. I'd like to be the kind of person to graze on food all day. On top of this I'm breastfeeding so I have to make sure I'm getting an adequate intake of food. It's all so complicated. *sigh* On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 2:04 PM, ChuckB <gumboyaya@...> wrote: > Janelle, > > You wrote: >> Can you clarify the food/mineral supplements issue? > > Sure, Synthroid should be taken at least one hour before and four hours > after all foods, and at least four hours away from mineral supplements, > particularly calcium, iron, and magnesium. " Food " includes drinks other > than water. Sadly, this means coffee. T4 forms complexes with these, > preventing absorption. > > T3 can be taken with food but not the supplements. > > Your pharmacist should put these directions on your meds or supply them > with an insert. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2011 Report Share Posted February 6, 2011 I have found cooking a habanero pepper in my eggs is effective, but my wife says I am crazy. Chuck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2011 Report Share Posted February 6, 2011 Janelle, You wrote: > Is that the same for Armour?... Armour contains both T4 and T3, actually more T3 relative to T4 than our own glands produce. Food interferes with the T4 part only. So, people that take their Armour with food are really taking a T3 only treatment. Chuck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2011 Report Share Posted February 6, 2011 Yes, Armour has both T4 and T3 in it. <>Roni Immortality exists! It's called knowledge! Just because something isn't seen doesn't mean it's not there<> >> Can you clarify the food/mineral supplements issue? > > Sure, Synthroid should be taken at least one hour before and four hours > after all foods, and at least four hours away from mineral supplements, > particularly calcium, iron, and magnesium. " Food " includes drinks other > than water. Sadly, this means coffee. T4 forms complexes with these, > preventing absorption. > > T3 can be taken with food but not the supplements. > > Your pharmacist should put these directions on your meds or supply them > with an insert. ------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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