Guest guest Posted January 4, 2011 Report Share Posted January 4, 2011 , You wrote: > Can someone please offer me some advice? > > I'm 26, have been on armour and am really feeling terrible. For some > reason my numbers and symptoms are getting extremely worse and I odnt > know what to do. Here are my numbers: > > In July (before starting armour), it was: > TSH: 3.56 (.27-4.2) > Free T4: 1.32 (.93-1.7) > Free T3: 3.7 (2.57-4.43) > > 3 months after taking Armour 60mg per day, (30 2x day) the free T4 and > free T3 were going down which I dont understand. > The numbers were: > TSH: 1.46 > Free T4: .95 > Free T3: 2.8 > There are some key pieces of information missing, particularly antibodies and TT4 or TT3. Your July numbers by themselves do not justify medication. If you had positive antibodies, that would indicate the start of Hashimoto's and perhaps compel a pre-emptive dose. With the relatively strong thyroid function indicated by these tests, your Armour dose would be expected to drive the TSH even lower. However, with Hashimoto's, your thyroid function was probably decreasing, which explains all the other changes as well. Antibodies can also suppress the TSH. Totals, either TT4 or TT3 would indicate whether there is a binding issue. This seems unlikely. Both TT4 and FT4 can be expected to drop well below the reference range on Armour. This is a normal consequence of the fact that Armour is mostly a T3 medication. It delivers T3 almost exclusively if you take the Armour within an hour of any kind of food or supplement. However, FT3 should still be higher on Armour. Active antibodies could be decreasing both T4 production and T4-T3 conversion. One variable that can strongly affect this test is when you took your last dose before the blood draw. If you did what we usually recommend, which is to wait to take your meds until after the test, this would cause a slight suppression of FT3 relative to the average. Normally the stored supply of T4 is enough to counter this variation in T3, but you may be doing something in taking your meds that interferes with T4 absorption. Chuck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2011 Report Share Posted January 4, 2011 Ask him to add ReverseT3 to the testing group that he's doing. If you're not converting the T4 into T3 your cells are not getting enough hormone. This is what happend to me on Armour too. <>Roni Immortality exists! It's called knowledge! Just because something isn't seen doesn't mean it's not there<> From: <daisytiff228@...> Subject: new and really need help hypothyroidism Date: Saturday, January 1, 2011, 12:28 PM Can someone please offer me some advice? I'm 26, have been on armour and am really feeling terrible. For some reason my numbers and symptoms are getting extremely worse and I odnt know what to do. Here are my numbers: In July (before starting armour), it was: TSH: 3.56 (.27-4.2) Free T4: 1.32 (.93-1.7) Free T3: 3.7 (2.57-4.43) 3 months after taking Armour 60mg per day, (30 2x day) the free T4 and free T3 were going down which I dont understand. The numbers were: TSH: 1.46 Free T4: .95 Free T3: 2.8 He increased to 90mg perday after that, and just tested my numbers, which I'll get on Monday. However, I am nearly positive they are lower than low now because of how terrible I feel. Brain fog, low libido, extreme fatigue, this doctor did not monitor this right. I really need some advice. thank you. ------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2011 Report Share Posted January 4, 2011 Please post your new lab results as soon as you can. In addition please include the ones below again, in case we have lost them. Luck, .. .. > Posted by: " " daisytiff228@... > <mailto:daisytiff228@...?Subject=%20Re%3A%20new%20and%20really%20need%20help\ > > litldaisytiff <litldaisytiff> > > > Mon Jan 3, 2011 9:22 am (PST) > > > > Can someone please offer me some advice? > > I'm 26, have been on armour and am really feeling terrible. For some > reason my numbers and symptoms are getting extremely worse and I odnt > know what to do. Here are my numbers: > > In July (before starting armour), it was: > TSH: 3.56 (.27-4.2) > Free T4: 1.32 (.93-1.7) > Free T3: 3.7 (2.57-4.43) > > 3 months after taking Armour 60mg per day, (30 2x day) the free T4 and > free T3 were going down which I dont understand. > The numbers were: > TSH: 1.46 > Free T4: .95 > Free T3: 2.8 > > He increased to 90mg perday after that, and just tested my numbers, > which I'll get on Monday. However, I am nearly positive they are lower > than low now because of how terrible I feel. Brain fog, low libido, > extreme fatigue, this doctor did not monitor this right. I really need > some advice. thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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