I'm new here

[Guest guest]

> Hello! Just found this group tonight. I'm up on one of those late

> nights searching the web.

>

> I've had this syndrome for over ten years and I've educated myself

a

> lot about it but I never before tonight found out it had a name and

> for some reason I am completely relieved that I can tell people

> now " I have Samter's syndrom. " I don't know why it matters, but it

> does.

>

> Anyway, I am tired so I may not read posts tonight but feel free to

> say hello.

>

> I've been desensitized to aspirin twice at Scripps Clinic with

great

> effects on my asthma but not so great on my polyps. In fact, I'm

> looking at sinus surgery for the fourth time (possibly).

>

> I am surprised there are so few members to this group -- maybe no

one

> else knows the name either! They certainly find the people with

this

> syndrome at Scripps for their studies.

>

> Greetings from New York,

>

> Lori

Hi

I too just found this group and the name Samter's on Friday. I had an

ENT appointment. He was the second Doctor I had heard in two months

use the word Triad. Neither doctor said the name though. I did a

search and bingo I'm here.

It is somewhat a relief to find fellow sufferers. I am sick of people

telling me what to do about my sinuses (I don't mean you guys).

Everyone that sees me sneeze seems to think they have a remedy for my

condition. All I'm interested in, as many of you seem to be, is the

root cause. I'll try and answer the survey on my next post, but to be

brief, I've had the condition for about 12 years, I'm 33. My first

ASA reaction was in a restaurant - a friend gave me an aspirin for my

headache. I usually took Tylenol but I didn't have any. Moments later

I had trouble breathing, my eyes watered etc. I didn't make the

connection at the time. It took two more incidents with ASA or

similar products for me to clue in. I'm sorry - I'm a little slow

sometimes.

I cannot smell a thing. I avoid alcohol - I'm afraid of it now. I

also avoid tartrazine - yellow dye #5. I think that affects me too.

It's in almost everything. I also think that morning theory has

merit. I don't schedule any appointments until two o'clock now. I

can't breathe well until at least then.

I take way too much Otrivin. I'm currently taking Flonase. I think

these things don't help very much. I doubt I'll ever smell again.

I've had three surguries and I'm facing a fourth I think.

I hope we can figure this thing out. Oh yeah. I'm a Chemist. My

troubles began after my first term in University. I went to a job in

Timmins Ontario which was very cold, I lived in a shack-like

dwelling. I'm certain there was a great deal of mould, and my work

was done in a damp basement. So - was it the mould, moisture etc. of

the job, or a chemical I was exposed to at the University prior to

the start of the job? I was also ill (flu-like illness) in the

transition period. I think there's too much data, but maybe our

collected resourses can help figure this thing out.

Good luck I'll. I'll check in later this week.

Take care.

Mike

[Guest guest]

Don't give up on being able to smell again. I have had eight surgeries on my sinuses. I have had Samters for about 15 years I think. That is when I can first remember having symptoms. It is when my asthma kicked in. I had a bad reaction to taking an Alka Seltzer Plus for a cold. I lost my sense of smell for several years once during all my trials with my sinuses. It has came back now. Off and on. I get it back really well whenever I am on steroids. For some reason in the last year it has improved a bunch. It comes and goes but I enjoy it when I can. Lately I can smell something at some point everyday. Like I said it comes and goes.

Evie

Re: I'm new here

> Hello! Just found this group tonight. I'm up on one of those late > nights searching the web.> > I've had this syndrome for over ten years and I've educated myself a > lot about it but I never before tonight found out it had a name and > for some reason I am completely relieved that I can tell people > now "I have Samter's syndrom." I don't know why it matters, but it > does.> > Anyway, I am tired so I may not read posts tonight but feel free to > say hello.> > I've been desensitized to aspirin twice at Scripps Clinic with great > effects on my asthma but not so great on my polyps. In fact, I'm > looking at sinus surgery for the fourth time (possibly).> > I am surprised there are so few members to this group -- maybe no one > else knows the name either! They certainly find the people with this > syndrome at Scripps for their studies.> > Greetings from New York,> > LoriHiI too just found this group and the name Samter's on Friday. I had an ENT appointment. He was the second Doctor I had heard in two months use the word Triad. Neither doctor said the name though. I did a search and bingo I'm here.It is somewhat a relief to find fellow sufferers. I am sick of people telling me what to do about my sinuses (I don't mean you guys). Everyone that sees me sneeze seems to think they have a remedy for my condition. All I'm interested in, as many of you seem to be, is the root cause. I'll try and answer the survey on my next post, but to be brief, I've had the condition for about 12 years, I'm 33. My first ASA reaction was in a restaurant - a friend gave me an aspirin for my headache. I usually took Tylenol but I didn't have any. Moments later I had trouble breathing, my eyes watered etc. I didn't make the connection at the time. It took two more incidents with ASA or similar products for me to clue in. I'm sorry - I'm a little slow sometimes.I cannot smell a thing. I avoid alcohol - I'm afraid of it now. I also avoid tartrazine - yellow dye #5. I think that affects me too. It's in almost everything. I also think that morning theory has merit. I don't schedule any appointments until two o'clock now. I can't breathe well until at least then.I take way too much Otrivin. I'm currently taking Flonase. I think these things don't help very much. I doubt I'll ever smell again. I've had three surguries and I'm facing a fourth I think.I hope we can figure this thing out. Oh yeah. I'm a Chemist. My troubles began after my first term in University. I went to a job in Timmins Ontario which was very cold, I lived in a shack-like dwelling. I'm certain there was a great deal of mould, and my work was done in a damp basement. So - was it the mould, moisture etc. of the job, or a chemical I was exposed to at the University prior to the start of the job? I was also ill (flu-like illness) in the transition period. I think there's too much data, but maybe our collected resourses can help figure this thing out.Good luck I'll. I'll check in later this week.Take care.Mike

[Guest guest]

> > Hello! Just found this group tonight. I'm up on one of those

late

> > nights searching the web.

> >

> > I've had this syndrome for over ten years and I've educated

myself

> a

> > lot about it but I never before tonight found out it had a name

and

> > for some reason I am completely relieved that I can tell people

> > now " I have Samter's syndrom. " I don't know why it matters,

but it

> > does.

> >

> > Anyway, I am tired so I may not read posts tonight but feel

free to

> > say hello.

> >

> > I've been desensitized to aspirin twice at Scripps Clinic with

> great

> > effects on my asthma but not so great on my polyps. In fact,

I'm

> > looking at sinus surgery for the fourth time (possibly).

> >

> > I am surprised there are so few members to this group -- maybe

no

> one

> > else knows the name either! They certainly find the people

with

> this

> > syndrome at Scripps for their studies.

> >

> > Greetings from New York,

> >

> > Lori

>

> Hi

>

> I too just found this group and the name Samter's on Friday. I

had an

> ENT appointment. He was the second Doctor I had heard in two

months

> use the word Triad. Neither doctor said the name though. I did a

> search and bingo I'm here.

>

> It is somewhat a relief to find fellow sufferers. I am sick of

people

> telling me what to do about my sinuses (I don't mean you guys).

> Everyone that sees me sneeze seems to think they have a remedy

for my

> condition. All I'm interested in, as many of you seem to be, is

the

> root cause. I'll try and answer the survey on my next post, but

to be

> brief, I've had the condition for about 12 years, I'm 33. My

first

> ASA reaction was in a restaurant - a friend gave me an aspirin

for my

> headache. I usually took Tylenol but I didn't have any. Moments

later

> I had trouble breathing, my eyes watered etc. I didn't make the

> connection at the time. It took two more incidents with ASA or

> similar products for me to clue in. I'm sorry - I'm a little slow

> sometimes.

>

> I cannot smell a thing. I avoid alcohol - I'm afraid of it now. I

> also avoid tartrazine - yellow dye #5. I think that affects me

too.

> It's in almost everything. I also think that morning theory has

> merit. I don't schedule any appointments until two o'clock now. I

> can't breathe well until at least then.

>

> I take way too much Otrivin. I'm currently taking Flonase. I

think

> these things don't help very much. I doubt I'll ever smell again.

> I've had three surguries and I'm facing a fourth I think.

>

> I hope we can figure this thing out. Oh yeah. I'm a Chemist. My

> troubles began after my first term in University. I went to a job

in

> Timmins Ontario which was very cold, I lived in a shack-like

> dwelling. I'm certain there was a great deal of mould, and my

work

> was done in a damp basement. So - was it the mould, moisture etc.

of

> the job, or a chemical I was exposed to at the University prior

to

> the start of the job? I was also ill (flu-like illness) in the

> transition period. I think there's too much data, but maybe our

> collected resourses can help figure this thing out.

>

> Good luck I'll. I'll check in later this week.

>

> Take care.

> Mike

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I am on Singulair(pill), Advair(inhaler),Combivent(inhaler), and Beconase AQ(nasal inhaler). I also have a nebulizer at home to give myself breathing treatments if I need them. I probably don't do the nasal rinsing as often as I should. But I do them also. I noticed some great improvement in my smell after I had to be on a long course of antibiotics after having pneumonia. Actually I have had pneumonia twice in one year and both times was on a long stretch of antibiotics and my smell improved. Having pneumonia was not good though.

Evie

Re: I'm new here

> > Hello! Just found this group tonight. I'm up on one of those late > > nights searching the web.> > > > I've had this syndrome for over ten years and I've educated myself > a > > lot about it but I never before tonight found out it had a name and > > for some reason I am completely relieved that I can tell people > > now "I have Samter's syndrom." I don't know why it matters, but it > > does.> > > > Anyway, I am tired so I may not read posts tonight but feel free to > > say hello.> > > > I've been desensitized to aspirin twice at Scripps Clinic with > great > > effects on my asthma but not so great on my polyps. In fact, I'm > > looking at sinus surgery for the fourth time (possibly).> > > > I am surprised there are so few members to this group -- maybe no > one > > else knows the name either! They certainly find the people with > this > > syndrome at Scripps for their studies.> > > > Greetings from New York,> > > > Lori> > Hi> > I too just found this group and the name Samter's on Friday. I had an > ENT appointment. He was the second Doctor I had heard in two months > use the word Triad. Neither doctor said the name though. I did a > search and bingo I'm here.> > It is somewhat a relief to find fellow sufferers. I am sick of people > telling me what to do about my sinuses (I don't mean you guys). > Everyone that sees me sneeze seems to think they have a remedy for my > condition. All I'm interested in, as many of you seem to be, is the > root cause. I'll try and answer the survey on my next post, but to be > brief, I've had the condition for about 12 years, I'm 33. My first > ASA reaction was in a restaurant - a friend gave me an aspirin for my > headache. I usually took Tylenol but I didn't have any. Moments later > I had trouble breathing, my eyes watered etc. I didn't make the > connection at the time. It took two more incidents with ASA or > similar products for me to clue in. I'm sorry - I'm a little slow > sometimes.> > I cannot smell a thing. I avoid alcohol - I'm afraid of it now. I > also avoid tartrazine - yellow dye #5. I think that affects me too. > It's in almost everything. I also think that morning theory has > merit. I don't schedule any appointments until two o'clock now. I > can't breathe well until at least then.> > I take way too much Otrivin. I'm currently taking Flonase. I think > these things don't help very much. I doubt I'll ever smell again. > I've had three surguries and I'm facing a fourth I think.> > I hope we can figure this thing out. Oh yeah. I'm a Chemist. My > troubles began after my first term in University. I went to a job in > Timmins Ontario which was very cold, I lived in a shack-like > dwelling. I'm certain there was a great deal of mould, and my work > was done in a damp basement. So - was it the mould, moisture etc. of > the job, or a chemical I was exposed to at the University prior to > the start of the job? I was also ill (flu-like illness) in the > transition period. I think there's too much data, but maybe our > collected resourses can help figure this thing out.> > Good luck I'll. I'll check in later this week.> > Take care.> Mike> > >

[Guest guest]

Cat,

Thanks for the recipes, my daughters will love them. I do have a few

questions though:

Where would I find the roller bottles that you mentioned? What is

mica powder and where can I find it? Where would I find fine glitter?

I've only seen craft glitter in the stores, but I may be looking in

the wrong place.

> Hi :

> Here is a bunch of glittery recipes I know your daughters would

love (and

> they are very easy to make, too)!

>

> Lava Lamp Lip Gloss

> 1 oz. castor oil

> pinch of glitter or mica powder, if desired

> If desired, this can be tinted and flavored using oil-based

> colorants/flavorings (see below)

> Mix well. Pour into roller-type bottles, filling them 2/3 full. Set

aside.

> Separately, mix:

> 1 oz. glycerine (if a sweeter blend is desired, use 1/2 oz.

glycerine and

> 1/2 oz. honey or corn syrup)

> 1/4 tsp. food flavoring extract (not oil)

> 2-3 drops water-based food coloring

> Top off the bottles with this and cap. The two liquids roll and

ooze around

> each other in the tube, but never mix...like the old/new Lava Lamps!

> Some ideas for color/flavor combos:

> Strawberry (red)/vanilla (clear)

> Cherry (red)/vanilla (clear)

> Raspberry (red or blue)/vanilla(clear)

> Blueberry (blue)/vanilla (clear)

> Mint (green)/vanilla (clear)

> Strawberry (red or pink)/kiwi (green)

> Bubblegum (pink)/vanilla (clear)

> Strawberry (red)/banana (yellow)

> Lemon(yellow)/orange (orange) or lime(green)

>

> Roll-on Glitter

> 1 oz. aloe vera gel (the clear, commercial stuff)

> 1 oz. glycerine

> 1 tsp. fine glitter

> 1 tsp. food flavoring extract (see note below), if desired

> food coloring, if desired

> Mix and pour into roll-on bottles, include a few small beads or

plastic

> jewels, and label " keep away from eye area "

>

> Fairy Dust (glitter powder)

> 1 tsp. cornstarch

> 1 drop food coloring

> 1 tsp. mica powder

> 1/4 tsp. ultra-fine glitter

> 1 drop fragrance oil, if desired

> Rub the food coloring and f.o. with a little of the cornstarch,

then mix in

> the remaining cornstarch, sift and add the other ingredients.

Label " keep

> away from eye area " .

> (For a shimmery body powder, increase the cornstarch to 1/4 cup)

>

> Glitter Gel (from Reno)

> 1/4 cup clear aloe vera gel

> 1/2 tsp. fine glitter

> 1-2 drops food coloring

> 1/2 tsp. glycerine

> few drops food flavoring extract

> This can be used on hair and skin, but label " keep away from eye

area "

>

> Body Parfaits

> 1/4 cup clear aloe vera gel (the commercial stuff)

> 1 tsp. glycerine

> 1/4 tsp. flavoring extract or a few drops water-based scent

> 1-2 drops food coloring

> pinch fine glitter, if desired

> Mix well and set aside.

> Separately, mix:

> 1/4 cup unscented body cream

> few drops fragrance oil

> 1-2 drops color (if desired...I leave mine white)

> Take a clear jar and spoon a layer of lotion in the bottom. Top

with a thin

> layer of aloe vera gel. Top this with another thin layer of lotion,

then

> gel, etc. until the jar is full.

> Some ideas for scents:

>

> Strawberries and Cream (vanilla)

> Peaches (or blueberries, cherry, banana, watermelon, kiwi,

raspberries,

> etc.) and Cream

> Orange Dreamsicle (orange and vanilla)

> Pina Colada (pineapple and coconut with a touch of vanilla)

> Summer Sorbet (cucumber with a touch of lime and vanilla)

> Tropical Swirl (mango with a touch of jasmine and vanilla with

coconut)

> Hawaiian Tropic (mango with a touch of banana and coconut with a

touch of

> vanilla)

> Amaretto (almond with a touch of cinnamon and vanilla)

>

> Shower/Bath Gel (from Reno)

> 2 oz. unscented, uncolored clear liquid soap

> 2 oz. distilled water

> 1 tb. aloe vera gel

> 1 tb. glycerine

> salt as needed

> 1/4 tsp. fragrance oil

> 1/2 tsp. mica powder (for a pearlescent effect) or fine glitter

> 1-2 drops food coloring

> Mix the soap and the water, add salt 1/4 tsp. at a time until

thickened, add

> remaining ingredients.

>

> Magic Fizzing Bath Powder

> 1 cup baking soda (sodium bicarbonate)

> 1/2 cup citric acid

> 1/2 cup cornstarch

> 1 tsp. ultra-fine irridescent glitter

> 1 tsp. essential/fragrance oil

> few drops food coloring

> Rub the food coloring with a small amount of cornstarch until

blended, then

> add to the rest of the powders and mix well. Mix in the f.o. and

glitter

> and package in a moisture-proof bag. Add approx. 1/4 cup of this

to the

> bath. It will fizz and sparkle and turn magical colors!

>

> Magic Fizzing Bath Bombs

> 1 cup baking soda

> 1/2 cup citric acid

> 1/2 cup cornstarch

> 1 tsp. ultra-fine glitter

> Mix well and set aside. Separately, combine:

> 2 1/2 tb. almond oil

> 3/4 tb. distilled water

> 1-2 tsp. fragrance oil

> 1-2 drops food coloring

> 1/2 tsp. borax

> Mix well and drizzle over the dry ingredients. Mix with your hands

until it

> resembles moist sand, pack into molds, pop out and let dry

completely.

> Additions:

> 1/4 cup " Pop-Rocks " candy for additional pop

> 1 package unsweetened " Berry Blue " Kool Aid (changes colors in the

water)

>

> Shimmering Body Spray (no alcohol)

> 1-2 tb. food flavoring extract (see note below) or water-based

fragrance

> Slowly mix in:

> 8 oz. distilled water

> 2 tsp. glycerine

> 1-2 drops food coloring

> 1/2 tsp. mica powder (for a pearlescent effect) or fine glitter

> Mix well and pour into spray bottle. Add a few decorative beads,

shells or

> small toys. (this contains no preservative, so should be discarded

after a

> few days)

>

> Shimmering Body Spray (with alcohol)

> 4 oz. 39C denatured or grain alcohol

> 4 oz. distilled water

> 1 tsp. glycerine

> 2 tsp. fragrance oil

> 1/2 tsp. mica powder (for a pearlescent effect) or fine glitter

> 1-2 drops food coloring

> Dissolve f.o. in alcohol, add water very slowly. Add glycerine,

coloring

> and glitter and package as above.

>

> Perfume Glacé (solid perfume)

> 1 oz. clear M & P soap

> 1 tsp. glycerine

> 1 tsp. fragrance oil

> 1/2 tsp. fine glitter

> 2-3 drops food coloring

> Melt the soap, stir in the glycerine, coloring, glitter and the

f.o. Pour

> into small decorative pots or tins.

>

> Note: In the Roll-On Glitter, Glitter Gel and Shimmering Body Spray

recipes,

> I suggested using food flavoring extracts as the scent. I'm not

implying

> these are edible mixtures (and they should be labelled " not for

consumption "

> or " not edible " ), but rather the flavorings are water-based, non-

toxic and

> come in a wide array of great flavors/fragrances that kids love:

strawberry,

> cherry, raspberry, banana, vanilla, mint, chocolate, coconut,

orange, root

> beer, etc. These will mix in a water-based formula without the

clouding

> associated with oil-based scents.

>

> > Hello everyone, my name is and I am new as well. I just

> > joined a few days ago and wanted to introduce myself. I am a

single

> > homeschooling mom of two girls, ages 10 and 13. I stay at home

while

> > doing childcare and some typing to earn money. I have not made any

> > bath and body stuff yet, but am very interested. I have been

reading

> > up on it and have pretty much come to the conclusion that making

our

> > own products would be healthier for all of us. My daughters and I

> > would like to start off with a few recipes that would be easy and

not

> > too expensive. With my daughters the ages they are, we ALL like to

> > use bath gels, fancy soaps, bath salts, hair spray: probably

anything

> > you can think of. They even wear minimal makeup. If you know of

any

> > easy, inexpensive recipes we can start of with, please let me

> > know.Thank you.

[Guest guest]

Good morning! Thanks for posting all the great recipes at 's

request. I am new here too and have been waiting for posted message

recipes as well as looking for recipes in files and such. There are

a few in the database section but only one or two text files with a

recipe.

Anyway . . . your recipes are so interesting that I wanted to

preserve them for other seekers like myself and so many other newbies

writing in so I copied them to the " Files " section of the website. I

get the group mail in digest form, and did not see your moniker as

Cat>^-.-^<; is that how you would like them attributed? The ones

that came from Reno are labeled as such.

p.s. This is easy to do . . . and will preserve the work it takes to

transmit the recipes

> Hi :

> Here is a bunch of glittery recipes I know your daughters would

love (and

> they are very easy to make, too)!

>

> Lava Lamp Lip Gloss

> 1 oz. castor oil

> pinch of glitter or mica powder, if desired

> If desired, this can be tinted and flavored using oil-based

> colorants/flavorings (see below)

> Mix well. Pour into roller-type bottles, filling them 2/3 full. Set

aside.

> Separately, mix:

> 1 oz. glycerine (if a sweeter blend is desired, use 1/2 oz.

glycerine and

> 1/2 oz. honey or corn syrup)

> 1/4 tsp. food flavoring extract (not oil)

> 2-3 drops water-based food coloring

> Top off the bottles with this and cap. The two liquids roll and

ooze around

> each other in the tube, but never mix...like the old/new Lava Lamps!

> Some ideas for color/flavor combos:

> Strawberry (red)/vanilla (clear)

> Cherry (red)/vanilla (clear)

> Raspberry (red or blue)/vanilla(clear)

> Blueberry (blue)/vanilla (clear)

> Mint (green)/vanilla (clear)

> Strawberry (red or pink)/kiwi (green)

> Bubblegum (pink)/vanilla (clear)

> Strawberry (red)/banana (yellow)

> Lemon(yellow)/orange (orange) or lime(green)

>

> Roll-on Glitter

> 1 oz. aloe vera gel (the clear, commercial stuff)

> 1 oz. glycerine

> 1 tsp. fine glitter

> 1 tsp. food flavoring extract (see note below), if desired

> food coloring, if desired

> Mix and pour into roll-on bottles, include a few small beads or

plastic

> jewels, and label " keep away from eye area "

>

> Fairy Dust (glitter powder)

> 1 tsp. cornstarch

> 1 drop food coloring

> 1 tsp. mica powder

> 1/4 tsp. ultra-fine glitter

> 1 drop fragrance oil, if desired

> Rub the food coloring and f.o. with a little of the cornstarch,

then mix in

> the remaining cornstarch, sift and add the other ingredients.

Label " keep

> away from eye area " .

> (For a shimmery body powder, increase the cornstarch to 1/4 cup)

>

> Glitter Gel (from Reno)

> 1/4 cup clear aloe vera gel

> 1/2 tsp. fine glitter

> 1-2 drops food coloring

> 1/2 tsp. glycerine

> few drops food flavoring extract

> This can be used on hair and skin, but label " keep away from eye

area "

>

> Body Parfaits

> 1/4 cup clear aloe vera gel (the commercial stuff)

> 1 tsp. glycerine

> 1/4 tsp. flavoring extract or a few drops water-based scent

> 1-2 drops food coloring

> pinch fine glitter, if desired

> Mix well and set aside.

> Separately, mix:

> 1/4 cup unscented body cream

> few drops fragrance oil

> 1-2 drops color (if desired...I leave mine white)

> Take a clear jar and spoon a layer of lotion in the bottom. Top

with a thin

> layer of aloe vera gel. Top this with another thin layer of lotion,

then

> gel, etc. until the jar is full.

> Some ideas for scents:

>

> Strawberries and Cream (vanilla)

> Peaches (or blueberries, cherry, banana, watermelon, kiwi,

raspberries,

> etc.) and Cream

> Orange Dreamsicle (orange and vanilla)

> Pina Colada (pineapple and coconut with a touch of vanilla)

> Summer Sorbet (cucumber with a touch of lime and vanilla)

> Tropical Swirl (mango with a touch of jasmine and vanilla with

coconut)

> Hawaiian Tropic (mango with a touch of banana and coconut with a

touch of

> vanilla)

> Amaretto (almond with a touch of cinnamon and vanilla)

>

> Shower/Bath Gel (from Reno)

> 2 oz. unscented, uncolored clear liquid soap

> 2 oz. distilled water

> 1 tb. aloe vera gel

> 1 tb. glycerine

> salt as needed

> 1/4 tsp. fragrance oil

> 1/2 tsp. mica powder (for a pearlescent effect) or fine glitter

> 1-2 drops food coloring

> Mix the soap and the water, add salt 1/4 tsp. at a time until

thickened, add

> remaining ingredients.

>

> Magic Fizzing Bath Powder

> 1 cup baking soda (sodium bicarbonate)

> 1/2 cup citric acid

> 1/2 cup cornstarch

> 1 tsp. ultra-fine irridescent glitter

> 1 tsp. essential/fragrance oil

> few drops food coloring

> Rub the food coloring with a small amount of cornstarch until

blended, then

> add to the rest of the powders and mix well. Mix in the f.o. and

glitter

> and package in a moisture-proof bag. Add approx. 1/4 cup of this

to the

> bath. It will fizz and sparkle and turn magical colors!

>

> Magic Fizzing Bath Bombs

> 1 cup baking soda

> 1/2 cup citric acid

> 1/2 cup cornstarch

> 1 tsp. ultra-fine glitter

> Mix well and set aside. Separately, combine:

> 2 1/2 tb. almond oil

> 3/4 tb. distilled water

> 1-2 tsp. fragrance oil

> 1-2 drops food coloring

> 1/2 tsp. borax

> Mix well and drizzle over the dry ingredients. Mix with your hands

until it

> resembles moist sand, pack into molds, pop out and let dry

completely.

> Additions:

> 1/4 cup " Pop-Rocks " candy for additional pop

> 1 package unsweetened " Berry Blue " Kool Aid (changes colors in the

water)

>

> Shimmering Body Spray (no alcohol)

> 1-2 tb. food flavoring extract (see note below) or water-based

fragrance

> Slowly mix in:

> 8 oz. distilled water

> 2 tsp. glycerine

> 1-2 drops food coloring

> 1/2 tsp. mica powder (for a pearlescent effect) or fine glitter

> Mix well and pour into spray bottle. Add a few decorative beads,

shells or

> small toys. (this contains no preservative, so should be discarded

after a

> few days)

>

> Shimmering Body Spray (with alcohol)

> 4 oz. 39C denatured or grain alcohol

> 4 oz. distilled water

> 1 tsp. glycerine

> 2 tsp. fragrance oil

> 1/2 tsp. mica powder (for a pearlescent effect) or fine glitter

> 1-2 drops food coloring

> Dissolve f.o. in alcohol, add water very slowly. Add glycerine,

coloring

> and glitter and package as above.

>

> Perfume Glacé (solid perfume)

> 1 oz. clear M & P soap

> 1 tsp. glycerine

> 1 tsp. fragrance oil

> 1/2 tsp. fine glitter

> 2-3 drops food coloring

> Melt the soap, stir in the glycerine, coloring, glitter and the

f.o. Pour

> into small decorative pots or tins.

>

> Note: In the Roll-On Glitter, Glitter Gel and Shimmering Body Spray

recipes,

> I suggested using food flavoring extracts as the scent. I'm not

implying

> these are edible mixtures (and they should be labelled " not for

consumption "

> or " not edible " ), but rather the flavorings are water-based, non-

toxic and

> come in a wide array of great flavors/fragrances that kids love:

strawberry,

> cherry, raspberry, banana, vanilla, mint, chocolate, coconut,

orange, root

> beer, etc. These will mix in a water-based formula without the

clouding

> associated with oil-based scents.

>

> > Hello everyone, my name is and I am new as well. I just

> > joined a few days ago and wanted to introduce myself. I am a

single

> > homeschooling mom of two girls, ages 10 and 13. I stay at home

while

> > doing childcare and some typing to earn money. I have not made any

> > bath and body stuff yet, but am very interested. I have been

reading

> > up on it and have pretty much come to the conclusion that making

our

> > own products would be healthier for all of us. My daughters and I

> > would like to start off with a few recipes that would be easy and

not

> > too expensive. With my daughters the ages they are, we ALL like to

> > use bath gels, fancy soaps, bath salts, hair spray: probably

anything

> > you can think of. They even wear minimal makeup. If you know of

any

> > easy, inexpensive recipes we can start of with, please let me

> > know.Thank you.

[Guest guest]

Hello Judy;

First of all A BIIIIGGGG WELLLCCCOOOMMMEEE to you. I say this is the best (i

call it a family) support group you will find out there. We have lovely

people here. Please don't be shy to ask or post about(almost) anything. We

can only learn from you. We would love to share (our and yours) experiences.

Good Luck, Good Health and Good Heart. Love TURK

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Hi Turk,

Thanks so much for that very warm welcome. You're right, this is a

great bunch of people and I'm so happy I've stumbled onto your

group. I tried to find something like this back when I had the

uncomfortable experience with the ICD check and found nothing. Well,

I take that back - I did find a group but no one there would respond

to me - don't remember the name of it and I might have been in the

wrong place. It is good to know that I'm not the only one who hates

the test. Thank you for being there.

Judy

>

> Hello Judy;

> First of all A BIIIIGGGG WELLLCCCOOOMMMEEE to you. I say this is

the best (i

> call it a family) support group you will find out there. We have

lovely

> people here. Please don't be shy to ask or post about(almost)

anything. We

> can only learn from you. We would love to share (our and yours)

experiences.

> Good Luck, Good Health and Good Heart. Love TURK

>

>

>

>

>

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> >

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[Guest guest]

hi lynn and welcome.. I am actually from the seattle area.. and know of some

good people around here if you would like.. i too suffer from severe anxiety

and it has/had effected my digestion and food intake.. turned into a full blown

eating disorder at that.. and i was so frustrated that i couldn't get food

down but subconciously the eating disorder side of my brain loved the lbs i was

shedding due to the inability to eat food... anyhow.. i ended up landing

myself in the hospital it was a nightmare.. but i know of a great doc who might

just be able to help you with both the meds.. and the food phobias... do you

have

a gastrointerologist? finding a good one around here is like ugh.. i dunno

the hardes thing ever!!! anyhow, welcome to the group! I am the girl who is on

probably the most meds of the group. .and if i am not on it (a specific drug)

now.. i probably hhhhhave been on it in the past.. go me! hehe i just have an

extreme sensativity to meds... it's amazing.... but yeah, if you have questions

about other drugs too, i can probably help..

*Brynn*

[Guest guest]

> HI Lynn;

> Welcome to the group!

> I can relate to your phobia's as I suffer from severe OCD and

anxiety. Were you ever diagnosed with OCD?

Nope, never diagnosed with OCD. I'm starting to see a new therapist

on Wednesday, so hopefully she'll be able to give me a better

name/handle on what's up with me. My hope is that the meds will boost

my therapy and help me get a handle on what's going on with me and how

to better deal with it much more quickly and profoundly. I saw a

therapist for about a year back in 2001 and it helped me immensely,

though I was also not on meds at the time. So I'm hoping the combo

will be really effective for me. Unfortunately my old counselor has

moved to the Carolinas and I'm still here in Seattle, so I've got to

find a new therapist. Hopefully the gal I'm seeing Wednesday will be a

good fit for me. Crossing fingers!

Thanks for the welcome!

Lynn R.

[Guest guest]

Cheryl,

I had my entire lumbar area fused about a year ago. I had the Dr. use my own bone as spacers, but I do have metal plates that are kept in place with screws to stop any sliping. I still have bad days (especially in the cold), but I find that with exercise I am getting stronger. Also, my Dr. advises that all of his back surgery patients walk about a mile a day (as soon as possible).

I hope your surgery goes well, but don't expect recovery to happen overnight. It does take some time.

Keep a good attitude, and stay in this group, you will get a lot of good info, and their are many that you can share any problems with.

Diane

I am in my mid-30's and have degenerative spondylolisthesis at the L4-L5 level. I had fusion surgery in April 2002, which failed. I am now facing the prospect of revision surgery and this time the Dr. (not the one who did the 1st surgery) wants to insert cages at L4-L5 and L5-S1 because my discs are toast and my degree of slippage has increased.I'd particularly like to get feedback from anyone who has interbody cages / spacers.Thanks,Cheryl

[Guest guest]

Hi Cheryl,

I had a fusion done in June 2003 on L5-S1. I have a cage and two

rods and four screws. My fusion has been successful. In fact, my

doctor commented that my x-rays look like pages out of a textbook.

My only problem has been with the recovery. My muscles were very

weak and it has taken a while to be able to do some functions.

Take care and good luck!

Tish

>

> I'd particularly like to get feedback from anyone who has interbody

> cages / spacers.

>

> Thanks,

> Cheryl

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 5/17/04 3:33:27 PM Eastern Daylight Time, northernstars@... writes:

I'd just like to write a quick intro about myself. I recently joined

this group. My name is Ama and I am 21 years old. I have a few spinal

problems including spinal stenosis but also have problems with lumbar

herniated discs, degenerative disc disease, and last but not least I

also have Cauda Equina Syndrome which was caused by a large central disc

herniation at L4-L5.

Hi Ama:

Thank you for sharing your stenosis story with the group. At the very young age of 21, you are indeed suffering way too young for this condition as I understand it.

I was diagnosed with stenosis at L4-L5-S1 two years ago and I just turned 60. My orthopaedic surgeon recommended a laminectomy. I'm doing everything that I can to avoid surgery but I'm afraid that I will just have to get it. I'm going to see a Neurosurgeon in a few weeks since I'm told that this type of specialist is superior to an orthopaedic surgeon. Especially since I have other neurologic disorders.

Did you have an orthopaedic surgeon work on you or a Neurosurgeon? I live in Fort Lauderdale, FL. Where are you at?

Best,

Stan

[Guest guest]

Hi Stan,

LOL yes I am too young to be dealing with stenosis but if only I had the

stenosis alone I think I could cope better. But the stenosis alone can drive

me up the wall. I had a Neurosurgeon do the surgery and they would have

never done it on me only being 21 if I hadn't developed the Cauda Equina

Syndrome (CES). I think Neurosurgeons are a bit more qualified for doing

this type of surgery but it all depends on the surgeon and Orthopedic Spinal

Surgeons (OSS) are supposed to be pretty good as well. It all depends on

what needs to be done. I look at it this way, the Neurosurgeon is more

the electrician who removes the culprit interrupting the flow of electricity.

The orthopedist is more the foundation layer. He makes the unstable segments

more stable and is more focused on the stability than the so-called electricity

problems. I in my case needed a Neurosurgeon. You are wise to seek the

opinion of a Neurosurgeon.

Well I did all I could to avoid surgery and every case is different but if

only I had it sooner. My life is completely changed forever from the CES.

I'm learning to accept it somewhat but I urge all people to find out as

much as they can about their options. I have to balance medication to have

any kind of life. I try to avoid the opiates but with my kind of injury

they are necessary to function. If you really do need the surgery I recommend

you get it before things get much worse. However like I said every case

is different so make sure you are a good candidate before going through with

it.

So what have you tried so far to avoid surgery? I tried it all including

physio, chiropractor, strength training, epidurals, acupuncture, etc. None

of it worked. The doctors "finally" started listening last fall when I was

dragging myself on crutches. I could only move my quads a little bit at

a time and there was no way I could walk unassisted. What finally got their

attention was when one day I could no longer go to the bathroom, had to be

hooked up to a catheter and was completely impacted with feces. Oh yeah

and I couldn't feel anything in my saddle area. My tailbone was numb for

months before and it kept progressing. I had to have the no-option type

disc surgery and when I woke up in the recovery room I had a heck of a lot

more feeling in my legs. It was great. One of the surgeons then proceeded

to tell me "oh yeah and by the way we were able to fix most of your stenosis".

That was the first I had even known that it was there. I had always thought

I just had disc problems. I had to go through grueling physio, had to learn

how to walk again etc. I have what is probably permanent nerve damage but

am lucky it isn't any worse than it is. Oh yeah and my bowels and bladder

were/are a complete mess and I desperately need a cystoscopy. 7 mths post

op I'm able to walk unassisted with a bit of a limp. I am by no means back

to normal and must apologize for the graphic nature of this email. This

is more of a warning to others that have symptoms starting like this to get

them checked out ASAP. I don't want others to end up like this.

Anyhow I better wrap this up I'm just blabbing away. Thanks for introducing

yourself and sharing your story. Good luck with your surgery, if that is

the route you decide to take. I hope all goes well and things go well with

your appt with the Neurosurgeon. What other neurological problems do you

have? If they are related to the stenosis I completely understand why you

are exploring surgery.

BTW I live in Canada

I'm looking forward to getting to know you better and everyone else in this

group

Sincerely

Ama

Hi Ama:

Thank you for sharing your stenosis story with the group. At the very young

age of 21, you are indeed suffering way too young for this condition as I

understand it.

I was diagnosed with stenosis at L4-L5-S1 two years ago and I just turned

60. My orthopaedic surgeon recommended a laminectomy. I'm doing everything

that I can to avoid surgery but I'm afraid that I will just have to get it.

I'm going to see a Neurosurgeon in a few weeks since I'm told that this type

of specialist is superior to an orthopaedic surgeon. Especially since I

have other neurologic disorders.

Did you have an orthopaedic surgeon work on you or a Neurosurgeon? I live

in Fort Lauderdale, FL. Where are you at?

Best,

Stan

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 5/18/04 12:52:42 AM Eastern Daylight Time, northernstars@... writes:

So what have you tried so far to avoid surgery? I tried it all including physio, chiropractor, strength training, epidurals, acupuncture, etc. None of it worked.

Hi Ama:

Thank you for writing back to me! You included some helpful ideas as well as important personal data about yourself which helps me understand what you went through. Don't worry at all about the "graphic" nature of your email...the more accurate it is, the better I can understand what's going on.

I have tried epidurals, nerve block injections, physical therapy, chiropractic to try and alleviate my pain. The only thing that worked "some" was the nerve block injections.

I am going to begin Prolotherapy in a week--it has been shown to help some but not others. Have you heard of it?

I've also not tried accupuncture yet but I guess I will try that too sooner or later.

My stenosis (as I understand it) is caused by tissue growth and NOT a disc problem or anything directly related to bones and that is one primary reason for me thinking that a Neurosurgeon is preferable to an orthopaedic surgeon.

Also, regarding my other neuro problem....I was dependent on Valium for 31 years. I began coming off of it in 1998 without major physician help cause they didn't know how to do it properly. I finally took my last Valium in 2002 and it's been hell for me the entire time. The withdrawal syndrome for long-term benzo (Valium is a benzodiazepine) users can be a horrible affair. It was for me.

I now think that it was a mistake to come off of Valium after so long a time. I developed an immediate severe tingling in my feet when I began my taper in late 1998. Also I had severe anxiety and about 30 other major problems.

In my opinion, this long-term use of a benzo caused me to develop severe Sensory Polyneuropathy (tingling and numbness in my feet). I have gotten worse per the results of my EMG (nerve conduction studies) of three weeks ago.

My neurologist has tried lots of procedures and meds to help me with my polyneuropathy, but, nothing is working...the foremost expert in the world on benzodiazepine withdrawal (a former professor in England) says that my Neuropathy is likely caused by my use of Valium and it is not presently treatable. (in her opinion).

My neurologist and my spine doc think that some of my tingling and numbness in my feet is caused by my stenosis (and not my Valium use). I disagree with them on that, but, since benzos act on the nervous system and cause lots of problems when on them and off of them, my entire body is now a product of a screwed up nervous system. That is why I think that a Neurosurgeon would likely know more about nervous disorders etc than an orthopaedic surgeon would.

What do you think?

Best,

Stan

[Guest guest]

Stan,

I was diagnosed with spinal stenosis. My back isnt that bad yet, but I do get tingling in my feet and I was told its from the stenosis, I dont take any meds

Re: I'm new here

In a message dated 5/18/04 12:52:42 AM Eastern Daylight Time, northernstars@... writes:

So what have you tried so far to avoid surgery? I tried it all including physio, chiropractor, strength training, epidurals, acupuncture, etc. None of it worked. Hi Ama:Thank you for writing back to me! You included some helpful ideas as well as important personal data about yourself which helps me understand what you went through. Don't worry at all about the "graphic" nature of your email...the more accurate it is, the better I can understand what's going on.I have tried epidurals, nerve block injections, physical therapy, chiropractic to try and alleviate my pain. The only thing that worked "some" was the nerve block injections.I am going to begin Prolotherapy in a week--it has been shown to help some but not others. Have you heard of it? I've also not tried accupuncture yet but I guess I will try that too sooner or later.My stenosis (as I understand it) is caused by tissue growth and NOT a disc problem or anything directly related to bones and that is one primary reason for me thinking that a Neurosurgeon is preferable to an orthopaedic surgeon.Also, regarding my other neuro problem....I was dependent on Valium for 31 years. I began coming off of it in 1998 without major physician help cause they didn't know how to do it properly. I finally took my last Valium in 2002 and it's been hell for me the entire time. The withdrawal syndrome for long-term benzo (Valium is a benzodiazepine) users can be a horrible affair. It was for me. I now think that it was a mistake to come off of Valium after so long a time. I developed an immediate severe tingling in my feet when I began my taper in late 1998. Also I had severe anxiety and about 30 other major problems.In my opinion, this long-term use of a benzo caused me to develop severe Sensory Polyneuropathy (tingling and numbness in my feet). I have gotten worse per the results of my EMG (nerve conduction studies) of three weeks ago. My neurologist has tried lots of procedures and meds to help me with my polyneuropathy, but, nothing is working...the foremost expert in the world on benzodiazepine withdrawal (a former professor in England) says that my Neuropathy is likely caused by my use of Valium and it is not presently treatable. (in her opinion). My neurologist and my spine doc think that some of my tingling and numbness in my feet is caused by my stenosis (and not my Valium use). I disagree with them on that, but, since benzos act on the nervous system and cause lots of problems when on them and off of them, my entire body is now a product of a screwed up nervous system. That is why I think that a Neurosurgeon would likely know more about nervous disorders etc than an orthopaedic surgeon would. What do you think? Best,Stan

[Guest guest]

Hi Stan,

Sorry for not writing back sooner. I have never heard of Prolotherapy (and

I thought I'd heard them all LOL). What is that exactly?

Well before jumping on the surgery wagon you are very smart to seek a second

opinion since the Valium dependence could be causing your symptoms. I hate

to say this but it sounds like they didn't help any. If this is what is

causing your symptoms instead of the stenosis it is better you find out before

you go through something as permanent as surgery.

I must say after all those years it is a miracle you were able to come off

the valium to start with. I have a family member that got hooked to it as

well but luckily they were able to get off it before any permanent damage

was done. But I am not surprised at all that the valium dependence is what

is behind your neuropathy.

Yes the neurosurgeon is much more qualified and knowledgeable in dealing

with this kind of problem but if it is not the stenosis causing this then

your best bet is sticking with a neurologist.

Good luck and let us know what the Neurosurgeon has to say

Sincerely

Ama

Hi Ama:

Thank you for writing back to me! You included some helpful ideas as well

as important personal data about yourself which helps me understand what

you went through. Don't worry at all about the "graphic" nature of your

email...the more accurate it is, the better I can understand what's going

on.

I have tried epidurals, nerve block injections, physical therapy, chiropractic

to try and alleviate my pain. The only thing that worked "some" was the

nerve block injections.

I am going to begin Prolotherapy in a week--it has been shown to help some

but not others. Have you heard of it?

I've also not tried accupuncture yet but I guess I will try that too sooner

or later.

My stenosis (as I understand it) is caused by tissue growth and NOT a disc

problem or anything directly related to bones and that is one primary reason

for me thinking that a Neurosurgeon is preferable to an orthopaedic surgeon.

Also, regarding my other neuro problem....I was dependent on Valium for

31 years. I began coming off of it in 1998 without major physician help

cause they didn't know how to do it properly. I finally took my last Valium

in 2002 and it's been hell for me the entire time. The withdrawal syndrome

for long-term benzo (Valium is a benzodiazepine) users can be a horrible

affair. It was for me.

I now think that it was a mistake to come off of Valium after so long a

time. I developed an immediate severe tingling in my feet when I began my

taper in late 1998. Also I had severe anxiety and about 30 other major problems.

In my opinion, this long-term use of a benzo caused me to develop severe

Sensory Polyneuropathy (tingling and numbness in my feet). I have gotten

worse per the results of my EMG (nerve conduction studies) of three weeks

ago.

My neurologist has tried lots of procedures and meds to help me with my

polyneuropathy, but, nothing is working...the foremost expert in the world

on benzodiazepine withdrawal (a former professor in England) says that my

Neuropathy is likely caused by my use of Valium and it is not presently treatable.

(in her opinion).

My neurologist and my spine doc think that some of my tingling and numbness

in my feet is caused by my stenosis (and not my Valium use). I disagree

with them on that, but, since benzos act on the nervous system and cause

lots of problems when on them and off of them, my entire body is now a product

of a screwed up nervous system. That is why I think that a Neurosurgeon

would likely know more about nervous disorders etc than an orthopaedic surgeon

would.

What do you think?

Best,

Stan

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 5/23/04 10:27:45 PM Eastern Daylight Time, northernstars@... writes:

Hi Stan,

Sorry for not writing back sooner. I have never heard of Prolotherapy (and I thought I'd heard them all LOL). What is that exactly?

Well before jumping on the surgery wagon you are very smart to seek a second opinion since the Valium dependence could be causing your symptoms. I hate to say this but it sounds like they didn't help any. If this is what is causing your symptoms instead of the stenosis it is better you find out before you go through something as permanent as surgery.

I must say after all those years it is a miracle you were able to come off the valium to start with. I have a family member that got hooked to it as well but luckily they were able to get off it before any permanent damage was done. But I am not surprised at all that the valium dependence is what is behind your neuropathy.

Yes the neurosurgeon is much more qualified and knowledgeable in dealing with this kind of problem but if it is not the stenosis causing this then your best bet is sticking with a neurologist.

Good luck and let us know what the Neurosurgeon has to say

Sincerely

Ama

Hi Ama:

I'm not going to have surgery in order to reduce/eliminate my neuropathy...I'm looking to have surgery because the pain and nerve damage in my lower back is too debilitating to not have it. While it's true that surgery "might" reduce my tingling in my feet, I'm not counting on it.

I'm getting mixed signals from other docs and friends about having a neurosurgeon operate on me vs an orthopaedic surgeon. Since my stenosis is caused by expanding tissue in my spinal canal (my words), and, I don't need fusion too (just a laminectomy as I'm told), a Neurosurgeon would seem to be the better choice.

Anyone have any suggestions???

Prolotherapy is injections of glucose into my ligaments of my lower back. It is supposed to induce inflammation which, in turn, will cause better overall healing. At least in theory. I had my first injections yesterday. I'm doing ok right now.

Best,

Stan

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 5/25/04 6:10:25 PM Eastern Daylight Time, northernstars@... writes:

I am just curious about what tissue growth you are referring to? Is this scar tissue?

Hi Ama:

I don't know the answer to your question. Wish I did.

Best,

Stan

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 5/25/04 6:10:25 PM Eastern Daylight Time, northernstars@... writes:

I hope the prolotherapy helps you. This is the first I've heard of it but it does sound interesting. I'm curious to hear how that works for the inflammation.

If you enter <prolotherapy> into your search engine, it will bring up all sorts of websites.

best,

Stan

[Guest guest]

Hi Stan,

I am just curious about what tissue growth you are referring to? Is this

scar tissue? Yes a Neurosurgeon is the right choice with a laminectomy.

I completely agree and with my own experience I have to say if you feel

you really need the surgery and the surgeon agrees then you should have it.

Yes you are right surgery doesn't necessarily reduce the tingling and numbness

with neuropathy but I hope it will help get rid of a lot of your pain and

stop any further ongoing nerve damage (from the stenosis not the valium).

I know it can be really confusing to choose when everyone gives their input

about what works for them but it doesn't necessarily work for you. I think

of it this way when I compare Neurosurgeons and Orthopedists, Neurosurgeon=electrician,

Orthopedist=foundation layer

I hope the prolotherapy helps you. This is the first I've heard of it but

it does sound interesting. I'm curious to hear how that works for the inflammation.

Well let me know how that goes.

Sincerely

Ama

Hi Ama:

I'm not going to have surgery in order to reduce/eliminate my neuropathy...I'm

looking to have surgery because the pain and nerve damage in my lower back

is too debilitating to not have it. While it's true that surgery "might"

reduce my tingling in my feet, I'm not counting on it.

I'm getting mixed signals from other docs and friends about having a neurosurgeon

operate on me vs an orthopaedic surgeon. Since my stenosis is caused by

expanding tissue in my spinal canal (my words), and, I don't need fusion

too (just a laminectomy as I'm told), a Neurosurgeon would seem to be the

better choice.

Anyone have any suggestions???

Prolotherapy is injections of glucose into my ligaments of my lower back.

It is supposed to induce inflammation which, in turn, will cause better overall

healing. At least in theory. I had my first injections yesterday. I'm

doing ok right now.

Best,

Stan

[Guest guest]

> I found this group and decided to join because I think I may be

> experiencing symptoms of this disorder, but I'm not sure. Can

anyone

> give me some reference websites to check out?

> Thanks much,

> Marcia

Hello Marcia.... www.microconn.com/scoliosis/EMina.htm - That should

pretty well enlighten you. Don't feel awkward talking and asking

questions in here either. We're all ScoliSisters!

~~

[Guest guest]

Here's a good one for you, Marcia.

Sharon

I'm new here

I found this group and decided to join because I think I may be

experiencing symptoms of this disorder, but I'm not sure. Can anyone

give me some reference websites to check out?

Thanks much,

Marcia

Support for scoliosis-surgery veterans with Harrington Rod Malalignment

Syndrome. Not medical advice. Group does not control ads or endorse any

advertised products.

[Guest guest]

Duh! Forgot to send the link

http://www.microconn.com/scoliosis/

And now I see someone else already sent it!

Oh well. :^)

Sharon

I'm new here

I found this group and decided to join because I think I may be

experiencing symptoms of this disorder, but I'm not sure. Can anyone

give me some reference websites to check out?

Thanks much,

Marcia

Support for scoliosis-surgery veterans with Harrington Rod Malalignment

Syndrome. Not medical advice. Group does not control ads or endorse any

advertised products.

[Guest guest]

Hi Marcia

You have come to the right place, you will get so much information about

Scoliosis that you wont know what to do with it LOL

Hope you find what you need to know

Simone (Nutty)

http://www.curvedspine.com/

http://www.microconn.com/scoliosis/index.htm

I have more links should this not be enough, however, I am sure the group will

post some interesting sites for you

I'm new here

I found this group and decided to join because I think I may be

experiencing symptoms of this disorder, but I'm not sure. Can anyone

give me some reference websites to check out?

Thanks much,

Marcia

Support for scoliosis-surgery veterans with Harrington Rod Malalignment

Syndrome. Not medical advice. Group does not control ads or endorse any

advertised products.