Guest guest Posted February 19, 2001 Report Share Posted February 19, 2001 jen, try looking to see if kaiser has any DO's that you can see. or try going the route of GP's or FP's (general and family practitioners), they are much less likely to push vaccines, as they aren't their bread and butter--like ped's. (when i told our new dr--the DO-family practitioner that we do not vax--told him that i am claiming a religious exemption, he just said, "okay" and made a note on sawyer's chart and that was it!! just a suggestion, good luck!! brigit, in albany Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 22, 2001 Report Share Posted February 22, 2001 I used to be a member of Kaiser. We stopped going as well. We changed insurances and I highly recommend you do the same. . Kaiser’s integrity has been questioned before. They did some flu vaccine experiments with inner city kids. Shanna small Atlanta ga >From: " " <jenwilson@...> >Reply-Vaccinations ><Vaccinations > >Subject: finding doctors >Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2001 20:09:52 -0800 > > >anyway, I wish I had been more diligent in my quest for >finding a new dr. before we needed one, cause you just never know when you >will need one, ... > > try to find a family practitioner--better yet, one that is a DO, >instead of a MD. it seems to be working for me. > > > Our ped wasn't supportive at all about our non-vax decision. We've been >twice now for well baby visits and he strongly suggested that my son be >vaccinated & warned me against getting all my info from the internet >(another discussion...) Anyway I had pretty much decided " who needs >doctors? " and haven't made any more appts, but you're right, we may at some >time really need a good ped. The problem is that we are Kaiser members & I >think it highly unlikely that we find someone there who supports our >decision. Have you all had to go more unconventional routes or has anyone >had any luck with HMO doctors? >Thanks, > >Jen - mom to Andy 5/01/00, no shots! > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2011 Report Share Posted January 3, 2011 I think someone posted this before, but I just called the Mayo Clinic for a referral service. I was told to check aace.com, which is the American Association of Clinical Endocrinologists. There are only two listed within 100 miles of where I live, and one is the doctor I saw who didn't test antibodies or anything else but TSH and calcium. The other doctor has MD MBBS following his title. After checking, I found this....... " It stands for Bachelor of Medicine, Bachelor of Surgery. This degree is typically awarded to individuals who complete medical school in a variety of countries that follow the United Kingdom system. " I don't know how that system compares to ours. Read more: http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_does_a_doctor_with_MBBS_after_his_name_mean#ixzz1\ 9zJXRxz2 This doctor has listed these areas of interest: Interest Areas: Adrenal Disorders Diabetes Mellitus General Endocrinology and Metabolism Hypertension Lipid Disorders Metabolic Bone Disorders Parathyroid Disorders Pituitary Disorders Thyroid Dysfunction Osteoporosis PCOS The endocrinologist I saw lists these: Diabetes Mellitus General Endocrinology and Metabolism Lipid Disorders It seems like the doctor I didn't see is better qualified to treat thyroid disorders, and is in the same medical group as the one I saw. Since I know nothing about the " United Kingdom System, " does anyone here have any thoughts on this? Thanks, Barb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2011 Report Share Posted January 4, 2011 Barb, You wrote: > > ... It seems like the doctor I didn't see is better qualified to treat > thyroid disorders, and is in the same medical group as the one I saw. > Since I know nothing about the " United Kingdom System, " does anyone here > have any thoughts on this? My family has had mixed results with endocrinologists, all associated with major teaching hospitals and university medical schools, some fair, some excellent. However, I would suggest that you save the specialist for sorting out mixed or conflicting results, for example when several endocrine glands seem to be involved. From a very small sampling of opinions, mostly from lists such as this one, I think your odds of satisfaction are better with a GP. The guidelines for treatment of hypoT in the U.K. are to not treat at all until TSH exceeds 10. The only treatment considered is levothyroxine. The only test used for diagnosis and dose adjustment is TSH. ly, I would be terrified of treatment under the UK system. However, a doctor educated in the UK must still meet all the requirements to practice in another country. He might well be influenced by current local guidelines and accepted practices. Chuck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2011 Report Share Posted January 4, 2011 The guidelines for treatment of hypoT in the U.K. are to not treat at all until TSH exceeds 10. The only treatment considered is levothyroxine. The only test used for diagnosis and dose adjustment is TSH. Wow! That's intresting. It's also good to know that a GP is good enough to treat this condition. Thanks Chuck. Barb Re: Finding Doctors Barb, You wrote: > > ... It seems like the doctor I didn't see is better qualified to treat > thyroid disorders, and is in the same medical group as the one I saw. > Since I know nothing about the " United Kingdom System, " does anyone here > have any thoughts on this? My family has had mixed results with endocrinologists, all associated with major teaching hospitals and university medical schools, some fair, some excellent. However, I would suggest that you save the specialist for sorting out mixed or conflicting results, for example when several endocrine glands seem to be involved. From a very small sampling of opinions, mostly from lists such as this one, I think your odds of satisfaction are better with a GP. The guidelines for treatment of hypoT in the U.K. are to not treat at all until TSH exceeds 10. The only treatment considered is levothyroxine. The only test used for diagnosis and dose adjustment is TSH. ly, I would be terrified of treatment under the UK system. However, a doctor educated in the UK must still meet all the requirements to practice in another country. He might well be influenced by current local guidelines and accepted practices. Chuck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2011 Report Share Posted January 4, 2011 Endocrinologists are usually better at treating Diabetes than thyroid. A good internist or even a really good GP can treat thyroid sometimes better than an endo. Also, they tend to be very rigid in their ideas, as you have already discovered. <>Roni Immortality exists! It's called knowledge! Just because something isn't seen doesn't mean it's not there<> From: H <macbarb0503@...> Subject: Finding Doctors hypothyroidism Date: Monday, January 3, 2011, 8:02 AM I think someone posted this before, but I just called the Mayo Clinic for a referral service. I was told to check aace.com, which is the American Association of Clinical Endocrinologists. There are only two listed within 100 miles of where I live, and one is the doctor I saw who didn't test antibodies or anything else but TSH and calcium. The other doctor has MD MBBS following his title. After checking, I found this....... " It stands for Bachelor of Medicine, Bachelor of Surgery. This degree is typically awarded to individuals who complete medical school in a variety of countries that follow the United Kingdom system. " I don't know how that system compares to ours. Read more: http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_does_a_doctor_with_MBBS_after_his_name_mean#ixzz1\ 9zJXRxz2 This doctor has listed these areas of interest: Interest Areas: Adrenal Disorders Diabetes Mellitus General Endocrinology and Metabolism Hypertension Lipid Disorders Metabolic Bone Disorders Parathyroid Disorders Pituitary Disorders Thyroid Dysfunction Osteoporosis PCOS The endocrinologist I saw lists these: Diabetes Mellitus General Endocrinology and Metabolism Lipid Disorders It seems like the doctor I didn't see is better qualified to treat thyroid disorders, and is in the same medical group as the one I saw. Since I know nothing about the " United Kingdom System, " does anyone here have any thoughts on this? Thanks, Barb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2011 Report Share Posted January 8, 2011 Pretty good list. LOL! <>Roni Immortality exists! It's called knowledge! Just because something isn't seen doesn't mean it's not there<> From: <res075oh@...> Subject: Re: Finding Doctors hypothyroidism Date: Friday, January 7, 2011, 3:04 PM Roni sent me a quote I'll pass on: " If the US government were put in charge of the Sahara desert within 5 years there would be a shortage of sand " . But that's not all. 1] I'll suggest that the Department Of Sand would by that time have 267,000 employees and a budget of over $100,000,000,000 per year. 2] There would be 46,000 ex-congresspersons on that payroll. 3] The Department Of Sand Safety would only be half that size. 4] OSHA's printed regulations for sand safety would total over 13,000,000 pages. 5] Taxes on sand would total over 1/2 trillion dollars per year. 6] Possession of more than 5 lbs of sand would be punishable by up to 5 years in prison. 7] There would be 414,000 persons incarcerated for no other offense. .. .. > > Posted by: " Dave " dcbaden@... > <mailto:dcbaden@...?Subject=%20Re%3A%20Finding%20Doctors> > dcbaden <dcbaden> > > > Thu Jan 6, 2011 9:49 am (PST) > > > > Have to agree with . > Govt. has been the main player in the cost of healthcare going up. > When you look at the cost per patient of Medicxxx it's astronomical. > The whole system is plagued with fraud. > > Insurance companies unfortunately isolate the customer from market > dynamics, so they play a part as well. > > Technology - that too. High tech equipment is not cheap. > > Let's not forget about lawsuits. I know some folks from India who work > in medical technology. Can't believe the difference in the cost of an > operation from here to there. There's very little litigation risk > added into the cost of medical care over there. > > I was born in '66. A few years ago, my dad showed me the bill from my > birth which he had saved. > The grand total: $125 > Here's the punchline - I was born CESAREAN! > > Something has gone seriously wrong. Maybe we need to look back instead > of coming up with clever laws and government interventions. > > > > > > Having government bureaucrats " reign in " [control] anything is the most > > certain route to disaster that I can imagine. Bureaucracies [especially > > large ones] do not operate with efficiency, economy, timeliness or > human > > compassion. > > > > In a free market system it is the responsibility of the consumer to > > choose the business that operates in the manner desired by that > > consumer. Those that do not provide perceived value will cease to exist > > if we do our jobs properly. > > > > Regards, > > > > . > > . ------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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