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In a message dated 2/8/2006 6:32:09 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,

yildiz22@... writes:

Hi all,

Just received my hair analysis results. It seems that I am aluminum and lead

toxic. Aluminum being more severe.It is said in the report that there might

be other toxic metals hidden in tissues and once they start being released it

might be possible to see them in hair analysis test.

I also saw that my calcium was fine but magnesium low. Zinc was fine but

molybdenum,chromium,selenium,boron,sodium and potassium quite low.

Just wished to share. I am trying to understand the results at this point.

Best wishes

Nil

Dear Nil

The toxic metal content of hair represents months of exposure, as it takes

that long for hair to grow. Other tests for hair we find are not reliable as

they do not reflect current blood or tissue levels in the body. We sample a

small portion of the hair at the root and at the end of the hair, we are usually

asked if there is an obvious sign the sampling, there is no usual problem.

Joy

Research assistant to Dr Enlander

New York

_www.enlander.com_ (http://www.enlander.com/)

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Where do you obtain this analysis and what is the cost?

>

> Hi all,

>

>

> Just received my hair analysis results. It seems that I am aluminum

and lead toxic. Aluminum being more severe.It is said in the report

that there might be other toxic metals hidden in tissues and once they

start being released it might be possible to see them in hair analysis

test.

>

> I also saw that my calcium was fine but magnesium low. Zinc was fine

but molybdenum,chromium,selenium,boron,sodium and potassium quite low.

>

> Just wished to share. I am trying to understand the results at this

point.

> Best wishes

>

> Nil

>

>

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My test was arranged by Dr. Larry and done by Analytical Research

labs. Test and interpretation cost is 200 dollars.

Nil

Re: hair analysis

>

> Where do you obtain this analysis and what is the cost?

>

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>

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> Dear Nil

> The toxic metal content of hair represents months of exposure, as it

takes that long for hair to grow. Other tests for hair we find are

not reliable as they do not reflect current blood or tissue levels in

the body. We sample a small portion of the hair at the root and at the

end of the hair, we are usually asked if there is an obvious sign the

sampling, there is no usual problem.

>

>

> Joy

Joy,

The last sentence of your reply didn't seem to make sense. Would you

mind clarifying?

Also, when you speak of the unreliability of hair testing is that

something you feel with regard to just heavy metals or is it

applicable to all hair testing?

A couple of months back, after discovering this group and renewing my

efforts to increase my health, I started taking the " home brew "

sodium/potassium mix. A few days after that, quite by chance, I met a

naturopath who was in the process of sending his own hair in for

analysis. He did the same for me, at cost, and within days I received

a printout stating that I was sodium, potassium and magnesium

deficient. (There was no heavy metal toxicity.) From what I've read,

all three of those deficiencies are common with this condition.

I know the bad rap that hair analysis gets--just look at quackwatch

for info on that--and this naturopath was very open about that,

agreeing that there was a lot of bad testing and analysis, and no

common standards between labs (and, well, " labs " ). He offered the same

opinion with regard to live blood analysis. However I have also read

that, those issues aside, hair analysis can make more theoretical

sense as it is a long term measure and not subject to the fluctuations

found in serum levels, and indeed, that some elements are not even

well measured in serum in any case.

I would be very interested in hearing your opinions on this.

Regards,

Bret.

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Dr. Enlander and Joy,

Thanks for your answer. My samples were taken from the root part.I have been

exposed to Mercury latest 2 years ago and I have not done any chelation

since than. Other than that I was not exposed to heavy metals more than

normal people do.So,I am thinking that my heavy metal toxicity results apply

to current day.too? am I correct?

p.s. Some arsenic was also found. Knowing that I was not arsenic poisoned,I

am thinking this is a sign of my liver not functioning properly and not

being able to detox even the smallest amounts of heavy metals we get from

daily pollution.

thanks ver much.

nil

> Dear Nil

> The toxic metal content of hair represents months of exposure, as it takes

> that long for hair to grow. Other tests for hair we find are not reliable

> as

> they do not reflect current blood or tissue levels in the body. We sample

> a

> small portion of the hair at the root and at the end of the hair, we are

> usually

> asked if there is an obvious sign the sampling, there is no usual

> problem.

>

>

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Dr. Enlander and Joy,

Thanks for your answer. My samples were taken from the root part.I have been

exposed to Mercury latest 2 years ago and I have not done any chelation

since than. Other than that I was not exposed to heavy metals more than

normal people do.So,I am thinking that my heavy metal toxicity results apply

to current day.too? am I correct?

p.s. Some arsenic was also found. Knowing that I was not arsenic poisoned,I

am thinking this is a sign of my liver not functioning properly and not

being able to detox even the smallest amounts of heavy metals we get from

daily pollution.

thanks ver much.

nil

> Dear Nil

> The toxic metal content of hair represents months of exposure, as it takes

> that long for hair to grow. Other tests for hair we find are not reliable

> as

> they do not reflect current blood or tissue levels in the body. We sample

> a

> small portion of the hair at the root and at the end of the hair, we are

> usually

> asked if there is an obvious sign the sampling, there is no usual

> problem.

>

>

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Kathy

What doctor did you see in what state?

thanks

In a message dated 2/18/06 4:03:39 PM Eastern Standard Time,

baahstun@... writes:

> Hi Nil, and Group-

>

> Now that I am seeing an out-of-state doc, I am having a field day getting a

> bunch of testing done that I cannot get/hard to get where I live. And for

> the first time in 6 years, we are beginning to get some interesting data and

> answers.

>

> When my doc suggested the Analytical Research Labs hair analysis, I just

> thought it would be like the typical hair analysis that are out there, like

the

> one I did with Doctors Data years ago. I could NOT believe the results

> booklet with applicable attachments that came back from this company.

>

> After doing every test under the sun, this test FINALLY found Adrenal

> Exhaustion but goes into so much detail as to why. In addition, this analysis

> finally found all my issues with ongoing sodium, potassium, calcium, magnesium

> ratios and imbalances. It picked up on all my pancreatic enzyme depletions

> and the ongoing thyroid and hormone problems.

>

> They send this huge booklet with a write up of EVERYTHING that I have been

> physically and emotionally feeling for so long. I cried when I read this

> report as it goes into great detail about all the itty bitty symptoms that a

> person feels with my type of imbalances. It was like for the first time since

I

> got sick, someone had been living in my body and came up with the exact

> words to describe the physical and emotional challenges that I have been

feeling

> for so long...particularly when they talk about the brain fog and thinking

> challenges as well as the detached disinterested in things that deep down

> inside mean so much to me. I never would have worded it that way but that is

dead

> accurate on how I feel most of the time.

>

> The protocol, of course, involves a lot of corrective supplementation to

> balance the body and give the adrenals and chance to recover. I meet with my

> chelation doc this week who is doing all my pushes and drips and will see if

> we can tweek my Meyers and Boosts to add what this report says that I so

> desperately need.

>

> I am very, very impressed with the ARL hair analysis. I am a big fan of

> Doctors Data and unless their hair analysis has changed from years ago, this

> one put theirs to shame except for the metals testing....that was a little

> lacking with the ARL.

>

> Kathy

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Hi Nil, and Group-

Now that I am seeing an out-of-state doc, I am having a field day getting a

bunch of testing done that I cannot get/hard to get where I live. And for the

first time in 6 years, we are beginning to get some interesting data and

answers.

When my doc suggested the Analytical Research Labs hair analysis, I just

thought it would be like the typical hair analysis that are out there, like the

one I did with Doctors Data years ago. I could NOT believe the results booklet

with applicable attachments that came back from this company.

After doing every test under the sun, this test FINALLY found Adrenal

Exhaustion but goes into so much detail as to why. In addition, this analysis

finally found all my issues with ongoing sodium, potassium, calcium, magnesium

ratios and imbalances. It picked up on all my pancreatic enzyme depletions and

the ongoing thyroid and hormone problems.

They send this huge booklet with a write up of EVERYTHING that I have been

physically and emotionally feeling for so long. I cried when I read this report

as it goes into great detail about all the itty bitty symptoms that a person

feels with my type of imbalances. It was like for the first time since I got

sick, someone had been living in my body and came up with the exact words to

describe the physical and emotional challenges that I have been feeling for so

long...particularly when they talk about the brain fog and thinking challenges

as well as the detached disinterested in things that deep down inside mean so

much to me. I never would have worded it that way but that is dead accurate on

how I feel most of the time.

The protocol, of course, involves a lot of corrective supplementation to

balance the body and give the adrenals and chance to recover. I meet with my

chelation doc this week who is doing all my pushes and drips and will see if we

can tweek my Meyers and Boosts to add what this report says that I so

desperately need.

I am very, very impressed with the ARL hair analysis. I am a big fan of

Doctors Data and unless their hair analysis has changed from years ago, this one

put theirs to shame except for the metals testing....that was a little lacking

with the ARL.

Kathy

My test was arranged by Dr. Larry and done by Analytical Research

labs. Test and interpretation cost is 200 dollars.

Nil

did mine through Doctors Data Inc. I ordered it through Direct Labs

so I wouldn't have to go through my doctor.

http://www.directlabs.com <http://www.directlabs.com/>

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Hi mjh,

Dr Hart in Virgina-I go down there to see him and also do phone consults

with him. He has two offices-he just opened the detox clinic in Sterling and

also has an office in Fredericksburg.

For me, I am finding him to be the complete package. He juts " gets it " , not

only the CFIDS and MCS but my stupid hormone issues as well.

Message #88966 in the archives gives more detail.

Kathy

What doctor did you see in what state?

thanks

In a message dated 2/18/06 4:03:39 PM Eastern Standard Time,

baahstun@... writes:

> Hi Nil, and Group-

> Now that I am seeing an out-of-state doc, I am having a field day getting a

> bunch of testing done that I cannot get/hard to get where I live. And for

> the first time in 6 years, we are beginning to get some interesting data and

> answers.

> When my doc suggested the Analytical Research Labs hair analysis, I just

> thought it would be like the typical hair analysis that are out there, like

the one I did with Doctors Data years ago. I could NOT believe the results

> booklet with applicable attachments that came back from this company.

> After doing every test under the sun, this test FINALLY found Adrenal

> Exhaustion but goes into so much detail as to why. In addition, this analysis

> finally found all my issues with ongoing sodium, potassium, calcium, magnesium

> ratios and imbalances. It picked up on all my pancreatic enzyme depletions

> and the ongoing thyroid and hormone problems.

>They send this huge booklet with a write up of EVERYTHING that I have been

> physically and emotionally feeling for so long. I cried when I read this

> report as it goes into great detail about all the itty bitty symptoms that a

> person feels with my type of imbalances. It was like for the first time since

I > got sick, someone had been living in my body and came up with the exact

> words to describe the physical and emotional challenges that I have been

feeling for so long...particularly when they talk about the brain fog and

thinking

> challenges as well as the detached disinterested in things that deep down

> inside mean so much to me. I never would have worded it that way but that is

dead accurate on how I feel most of the time.

The protocol, of course, involves a lot of corrective supplementation to balance

the body and give the adrenals and chance to recover. I meet with my chelation

doc this week who is doing all my pushes and drips and will see if we can tweek

my Meyers and Boosts to add what this report says that I so desperately need.

I am very, very impressed with the ARL hair analysis. I am a big fan of Doctors

Data and unless their hair analysis has changed from years ago, this one put

theirs to shame except for the metals testing....that was a little lacking with

the ARL.

Kathy

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>

> Bee,

> what is your opinion on hair analysis? Do you think it's worth getting one

done or is it bogus that doesn't really coincide with whats going on in your

body?

>

+++Hi Mike. I don't think a hair analysis is helpful. Your body is smart

enough to balance out all of its nutrient levels when it gets the nutrients it

needs (this diet plus supplements), along with eliminating toxins, etc. per my

program.

All the best, Bee

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I have had it done, but in australia and it was very revealing for me. Showed up

mercury probs.

jennyF

>

> Has anyone had their hair analysed? i am thinking about doing so to see how

the vits and minerals are working in my body.

>

> does it work or is it a con?

>

> any recommendations in the uk?

>

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Hi, Had this done for my daughter -as a toddler she was severly hyperactive at a time before this was recognised. The support group had suggested that she may be zinc deficient, when tested she was ,so it did seem to be helpful. sorry don't have the address anymore. Have you done a google? > thyroid treatment > From: marsaday1971@...> Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2010 22:31:21 +0000> Subject: hair analysis> > Has anyone had their hair analysed? i am thinking about doing so to see how the vits and minerals are working in my body.> > does it work or is it a con?> > any recommendations in the uk?> > > > ------------------------------------> > TPA is not medically qualified. Consult with a qualified medical practitioner before changing medication.> >

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Hi

Interesting....Can I ask where you get hair analysis done ? Thanks Donna

>

>

> Hi,

> Had this done for my daughter -as a toddler she was severly hyperactive at

a time before this was recognised. The support group had suggested that she may

be zinc deficient, when tested she was ,so it did seem to be helpful. sorry

don't have the address anymore. Have you done a google?

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Hi,

sorry, I did say in my reply that i no longer had the address.

> >

> >

> > Hi,

> > Had this done for my daughter -as a toddler she was severly hyperactive

at a time before this was recognised. The support group had suggested that she

may be zinc deficient, when tested she was ,so it did seem to be helpful. sorry

don't have the address anymore. Have you done a google?

>

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Thanks for the website Chris. I have just ordered a hair analysis kit and it cost £55 and takes 7/10 working days for results to come back.

Donna

From: <chrisjtaylor46@...>thyroid treatment Sent: Fri, 8 January, 2010 6:17:11Subject: Re: hair analysis

had mine done a couple yrs ago and 3 yrs ago, q interestinghttp://www.mineralc heck.com/ default.htmdon't think it costs muchdon't genova do a hair test too>> Has anyone had their hair analysed? i am thinking about doing so to see how the vits and minerals are working in my body..> > does it work or is it a con?> > any recommendations in the uk?>

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  • 1 year later...

,

The main reliable uses of hair analysis are forensic, rather than

diagnostic. It can detect high levels of poisoning or drug use, but not

nutritional status.

You wrote:

>

> ... In any event the typical questionable practice is to mail in a sample of

> your hair and you get a result back. To me the probability of getting a

> correct diagnose from such a practice is pretty close to zero.

Agreed.

Chuck

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