Blood pressure

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Jag,

How much gray sea salt should he take a day?

Cyn

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> Some say that you should take gray sea salt to remedy high blood pressure. The

potassium in the gray sea salt helps to balance the water in your system in

order to reduce the blood pressure. Some take diuretics for high blood pressure.

>  

> Jag

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would he take more? he might do better on 50mg, his TSH might rise, and

then doc would give him meds?

gracia

lahock2000 wrote:

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> Gracia,

> He takes 1 iodoral a day (12.5 mg's). i tried to get his dr to give

> him thyroid med but she wouldn't. I know he needs it so it's very

> aggravating.

> Cyn

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> > how much iodoral/lugols is he taking? all the supps should help to

> lower

> > BP (including salt!). My BP was lowered with Armour.

> > gracia

>

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Cyn,Would you consider offering him a supplemental thyroid (otc) ratherthan dessicated (Armour, etc)? I buy and use this product (below) and really like it. My morning temps were 97 and lower until I startedtaking 1/2 grain of this 2x a day (I chew it and pack it into my cheekfor maximum absorption). After 2 weeks my temps went up to 98each morning and have stayed there (using Broda basal tempprotocol). Anyway, it seems many on this site prefer Armour orNaturethroid, and considering the expertise on this board, I deferto their comments and advice. But if you're having trouble getting a doctorto prescribe a thyroid rx, this could

be something you try. https://www.longnaturalhealth.com/library2.asp?A=105https://www.longnaturalhealth.com/products.asp?P=76Also, not sure if any of you are into meditation or qi gong. Butlong slow deep gentle breathing does amazing things for my stress levelsand bp. I use springforestqigong.com meditations, but there are many othersout there if anyone wants a primer on good quality breathing.

Gracia,

He takes 1 iodoral a day (12.5 mg's). i tried to get his dr to give him thyroid med but she wouldn't. I know he needs it so it's very aggravating.

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Cyn, throw some dry uncooked rice into the shaker of your celtic sea salt.That will declump the salt by pulling out the excess moisture and your husband will be able to shake the salt out.Works wonders.

I am not sure what salt loading is, can you explain? He does use sea salt. I bought him some Celtic sea salt but he didn't like it cuz it won't shake.

Cyn

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I'm not sure how much iodoral I can get him to take. Would 50 mg's help him

besides raising his TSH?

Cyn

>

> would he take more? he might do better on 50mg, his TSH might rise, and

> then doc would give him meds?

> gracia

[Guest guest]

yes sometimes iodine alone will fix the prob if thyroid gland is able to

do it's job.

Gracia

lahock2000 wrote:

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> I'm not sure how much iodoral I can get him to take. Would 50 mg's

> help him besides raising his TSH?

> Cyn

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>

> >

> > would he take more? he might do better on 50mg, his TSH might rise, and

> > then doc would give him meds?

> > gracia

>

>

[Guest guest]

I'll give this a try, thanks. Cyn

>

> Cyn, throw some dry uncooked rice into the shaker of your celtic sea salt.

> That will declump the salt by pulling out the excess moisture and your husband

will be able to shake the salt out.

> Works wonders.

>

[Guest guest]

,

Thanks for your great info. Is this porcine thyroid? and how does it compare

to Armour grain wise. I am definately interested in this product.

Cyn

>

> Cyn,

>

> Would you consider offering him a supplemental thyroid (otc) rather

> than dessicated (Armour, etc)? I buy and use this product (below) and

> really like it. My morning temps were 97 and lower until I started

> taking 1/2 grain of this 2x a day (I chew it and pack it into my cheek

> for maximum absorption). After 2 weeks my temps went up to 98

> each morning and have stayed there (using Broda basal temp

> protocol). Anyway, it seems many on this site prefer Armour or

> Naturethroid, and considering the expertise on this board, I defer

> to their comments and advice. But if you're having trouble getting a doctor

> to prescribe a thyroid rx, this could be something you try.

>

> https://www.longnaturalhealth.com/library2.asp?A=105

>

> https://www.longnaturalhealth.com/products.asp?P=76

>

> Also, not sure if any of you are into meditation or qi gong. But

> long slow deep gentle breathing does amazing things for my stress levels

> and bp. I use springforestqigong.com meditations, but there are many others

> out there if anyone wants a primer on good quality breathing.

>

[Guest guest]

Or if it's the coarse (the best) - I went today and got a grinder

shaker-same as a pepper grinder/shaker. (salt/peppermills)

works great.

Bruce

----- Original Message -----

From: lahock2000

iodine

Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2009 9:19 AM

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I am not sure what salt loading is, can you explain? He does use sea salt. I

bought him some Celtic sea salt but he didn't like it cuz it won't shake.

Cyn

[Guest guest]

No, the Nutripak thyroid is bovine, not porcine. I have neverused Armour and I am not sure how it compares biochemically.Maybe someone else knows?

,

Thanks for your great info. Is this porcine thyroid? and how does it compare to Armour grain wise. I am definately interested in this product.

Cyn

[Guest guest]

Hi Cyn,

salt loading basically is mixing 1/4 to 1/2 teaspoon of preferably celtic sea

salt into 1/2 glass of water, drinking it and drinking 2 glasses of pure water

right after that. It will load your body with sodiumchloride which helps the

body to get rid of bromide much faster then anything else, while the water is

necessary to help the body to handle the high salt dosage and to get the kidneys

going.

see http://www.naturalthyroidchoices.com/SaltAdrenal.html

> >

> > Hi Cyn,

> >

> > does your husband salt load? if so, what salt does he use, and how much/day?

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

What is bromide?

thanks,

Barbara N Germany

From: avproff@... <avproff@...>Subject: Re: Blood Pressure

Hi Cyn,salt loading basically is mixing 1/4 to 1/2 teaspoon of preferably celtic sea salt into 1/2 glass of water, drinking it and drinking 2 glasses of pure water right after that. It will load your body with sodiumchloride which helps the body to get rid of bromide much faster then anything else, while the water is necessary to help the body to handle the high salt dosage and to get the kidneys going.see http://www.naturalthyroidchoices.com/SaltAdrenal.html>------------------------------------

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Barbara, That your asking is a GOOD thing, and probably means you should get one

of the books on Iodine for health. Basically, Bromide is a halogen, which is, I

believe, a class or family of chemicals.Iodine/iodide, Bromide/bromine,

Floride/florine, Chlorine/chloride and another I can't recall right now are all

hologens.The only one which has a biological purpose, in the body is

iodine/iodide. Yhe others are all toxins (poisons), with NO biologic purpose.

However, when ingested they key in to the same receptor sites as Iodine/iodide,

thereby blocking absorbtion.Bromide is in bread dough, as a whitener (I believe)

as well as other prepared foods,Floride/florine is in water and toothpaste,

chlorine is in swimming pools and drinking water, etc.

As I understand it, ingesting high enough levels of Iodine, on a daily basis

will push the bromide etc. out of your body (De-toxify).As its pushed out of the

receptor sites where it has acumulated, it will enter the blood, and be filtered

out by the kidneys, and end up in the bladder.This will irritate the bladder and

urethra, causing a feeling (right after urinating), like you need to go again.

To avoid this, you need to take the salt as reccomended, and lots of water.This

will cause frequent urination with greater than normal volume.This 'waters down'

the bromide, lowering the concentration, and therby avoiding the irritation.Take

the salt, but neglect the large amounts of water, and the salt will pull the

water out of your cells, risking dehydration. Hope this is acurate, and helps.

Jim

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> From: avproff@... <avproff@...>

> Subject: Re: Blood Pressure

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> Hi Cyn,

>

> salt loading basically is mixing 1/4 to 1/2 teaspoon of preferably celtic sea

salt into 1/2 glass of water, drinking it and drinking 2 glasses of pure water

right after that. It will load your body with sodiumchloride which helps the

body to get rid of bromide much faster then anything else, while the water is

necessary to help the body to handle the high salt dosage and to get the kidneys

going.

> see http://www.naturalthyroidchoices.com/SaltAdrenal.html

>

> >

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[Guest guest]

It certainly helped me. And I didn't even have enough sense to ask the question...

Thanks, Jim!

Re: Blood Pressure> > > Hi Cyn,> > salt loading basically is mixing 1/4 to 1/2 teaspoon of preferably celtic sea salt into 1/2 glass of water, drinking it and drinking 2 glasses of pure water right after that. It will load your body with sodiumchloride which helps the body to get rid of bromide much faster then anything else, while the water is necessary to help the body to handle the high salt dosage and to get the kidneys going.> see http://www.naturalthyroidchoices.com/SaltAdrenal.html> > >

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I plan to do this. I have been researching this and wonder if those having issues with the salt may do better with this. What I have read is this is a great detoxifier and if you do it at nite that it halps you sleep betterSent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerryFrom: Kemper <cawwie@...>Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 13:19:16 -0800 (PST)<iodine >Subject: Re: Re: Blood PressureI wonder if any of you drink sole as your salt protocol? I use Himalayan seasalt (celtic sea salt works great too) and put 1 teaspoon in 8 oz of water and drinkfirst thing in the morning on an empty tummy.When you make sole, the salt completely is saturated in the water which makes asolution that is considered by some to be optimal for the body. Anyone wanting to know more can go here. I'd love to know people's experiences.I haven't started iodine therapy yet cuz I'm waiting on my doc to get a loading kit for me,so I'm doing other therapies to support my health issues, as well as learning tons from you all!http://www.natural-salt-lamps.com/sole.html To avoid this, you need to take the salt as reccomended, and lots of water.This will cause frequent urination with greater than normal volume.This 'waters down' the bromide, lowering the concentration, and therby avoiding the irritation.Take the salt, but neglect the large amounts of water, and the salt will pull the water out of your cells, risking dehydration. Hope this is acurate, and helps.Jim

[Guest guest]

Interesting..I use Himalayan sea salt, but only 1/2 tsp. dissolved in about 16 ounces of water. Hopefully I'm getting some of those sole benefits. It certainly sounds healthy.

BarbF

In a message dated 11/17/2009 4:19:46 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, cawwie@... writes:

I wonder if any of you drink sole as your salt protocol?

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No but in regards to dehydration this info I am about to say came from a health nut not a Dr but it might work. She said that if you do a water/electrolite enema your body will absorb the fluid from your colan and help you not be dehydrated. The thought of an enema is not pleasent but the cost of an iv at the Dr isnt either. dont know which is worse. How far out are you. For the first month or so I was so wiped out and anything I did made me worn out and needing a nap.

From: lydiaw86@... <lydiaw86@...>Subject: Blood pressure Date: Wednesday, November 24, 2010, 1:27 AM

So I have been dehydrated and yesterday I had to get 2000 cc's of fluid at the Dr. By IV and when they did the lay down sit down stand up BP test iy dropped 20 points.cystolic points.Now today I just got back from the store and my BP dropped way lower and I feel really dizzy. I have left a message with Dr A. Has anyone had this issue?LydiaSent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

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I am 8 weeks out. I pretty much either get to eat or drink not both its really hard.Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerryFrom: Jackie Bragg <jackieandgirls24@...>Sender: Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2010 08:40:46 -0800 (PST)< >Reply Subject: Re: Blood pressure No but in regards to dehydration this info I am about to say came from a health nut not a Dr but it might work. She said that if you do a water/electrolite enema your body will absorb the fluid from your colan and help you not be dehydrated. The thought of an enema is not pleasent but the cost of an iv at the Dr isnt either. dont know which is worse. How far out are you. For the first month or so I was so wiped out and anything I did made me worn out and needing a nap.From: lydiaw86@... <lydiaw86@...>Subject: Blood pressure Date: Wednesday, November 24, 2010, 1:27 AM So I have been dehydrated and yesterday I had to get 2000 cc's of fluid at the Dr. By IV and when they did the lay down sit down stand up BP test iy dropped 20 points.cystolic points.Now today I just got back from the store and my BP dropped way lower and I feel really dizzy. I have left a message with Dr A. Has anyone had this issue?LydiaSent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

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That is the way we are supposed to do it anyway, you really don't want to drink while you are eating.

On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 11:57 AM, <lydiaw86@...> wrote:

 

I am 8 weeks out. I pretty much either get to eat or drink not both its really hard.

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No I mean all day not together.Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerryFrom: Bipley <Bipley@...>Sender: Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2010 18:43:05 -0600< >Reply Subject: Re: Blood pressure That is the way we are supposed to do it anyway, you really don't want to drink while you are eating.On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 11:57 AM, <lydiaw86@...> wrote:  I am 8 weeks out. I pretty much either get to eat or drink not both its really hard. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

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Don't know if helps but here is what I was told this week about dehydration...I was in the ER on Nov 15 for dehydration, I haven't been able to keep anything down and felt miserable. That Dr. told me I only had to get 2 tbls of liquid in every hour to keep from getting dehydrated again. So after my "refill" with the IV, I took out a measuring cup and made sure I have gotten 2 tbls/hour. Her other suggestion was that I use Propel or Gatorade, something with some sugar in it to keep my blood-sugar levels up. I have used Apple juice (I think when this happened last year Gabby told me Apple juice was too acidic, but it was all I had on hand). I felt AMAZING after following this simple step. (well not so simple when I'm crazy busy at work and don't realize 2 hrs have gone

by) But I would try this method, see if you can stay on top of it. I REALLY REALLY wanted to guzzle that juice, but I kept to the 2 tbls so that I didn't get things coming back up. Cyrena DOBand: 1/19/07240/125/150start/now/goalFrom: "lydiaw86@..." <lydiaw86@...> Sent: Tue, November 23, 2010 7:27:26 PMSubject: Blood pressure

So I have been dehydrated and yesterday I had to get 2000 cc's of fluid at the Dr. By IV and when they did the lay down sit down stand up BP test iy dropped 20 points.cystolic points.

Now today I just got back from the store and my BP dropped way lower and I feel really dizzy. I have left a message with Dr A. Has anyone had this issue?

Lydia

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[Guest guest]

Hey Cyrena, haven't seen you around lately.

 

The reason for propel or Gatorade over juice is the sugar content.  You want just a tad bit of sugar, not a lot such as in juice.  Lots of sugar causes blood sugar spikes and then you get HUNGRY!  With propel or gatorade it's just enough sugar to bring your blood levels up without the spikes.

 

How have you been doing with your band?  What's the latest?

On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 10:24 PM, Cyrena Weeks <cyrenaweeks@...> wrote:

 

Don't know if helps but here is what I was told this week about dehydration...I was in the ER on Nov 15 for dehydration, I haven't been able to keep anything down and felt miserable.  That Dr. told me I only had to get 2 tbls of liquid in every hour to keep from getting dehydrated again.  So after my " refill " with the IV, I took out a measuring cup and made sure I have gotten 2 tbls/hour.  Her other suggestion was that I use Propel or Gatorade, something with some sugar in it to keep my blood-sugar levels up.  I have used Apple juice (I think when this happened last year Gabby told me Apple juice was too acidic, but it was all I had on hand).  I felt AMAZING after following this simple step.  (well not so simple when I'm crazy busy at work and don't realize 2 hrs have gone by) But I would try this method, see if you can stay on top of it.  I REALLY REALLY wanted to guzzle that juice, but I kept to the 2 tbls so that I didn't get things coming back up.

 Cyrena DOBand: 1/19/07240/125/150start/now/goal

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Thanks Bipley. Same old same old with the band - MAJOR Problems!! Lost 10lbs in 2 weeks (wish that was a good statement) Back at the Dr. this week to make sure there wasn't a slip that is going with all the vomiting. He confirmed that even with NO fill, it's too tight and I caught a stomach flu bug that made the acid problem even bigger, cause nothing to go in. Good news was no slip though. UGH!! He put me on 5 days of steroids to get the swelling down, and THIN liquids like broth - 2 tbls every hour. If I do a protein shake it comes back up. He also put me on Previcid that melts in my mouth so I don't have to deal with throwing up the acid pill and having WAY TOO Much acid. It is healing again and I hope to limp along a while longer. Until I can get the

financing for the revision to a sleeve. A friend of mine said, just have the band removed and stay skinny, no worries. HA HA She has never had an extra ounce of fat on her. I told her, I will take this misery EVERYDAY before I go back to being fat. I won't go with out a tool. Won't do it! So here I am again :)I hope you had a great Thanksgiving and thanks for asking about me :)CyrenaDOBand: 1/19/07240/123/150start/now/goalFrom: Bipley <Bipley@...> Sent: Thu, November 25, 2010 10:03:48 PMSubject: Re: Blood pressure

Hey Cyrena, haven't seen you around lately.

The reason for propel or Gatorade over juice is the sugar content. You want just a tad bit of sugar, not a lot such as in juice. Lots of sugar causes blood sugar spikes and then you get HUNGRY! With propel or gatorade it's just enough sugar to bring your blood levels up without the spikes.

How have you been doing with your band? What's the latest?

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There have been recent studies that showed that both statins (for lowering

cholesterol) and ACE inhibitors (blood pressure) perform must better if taken at

bed time, rather than in the morning. In particular, the blood pressure effects

are reduced to nil, if these are taken in the morning.

Chuck

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Roni,

You wrote:

> ... My question is do you think my cholesterol can be controlled with the

Cholestoff without any

> statins?I just realized, as I'm writing this that even if it can't, I can't

take the statins anyway, so there has to be something that will

> help without the statin....

The nasty side effects of statins are connected to a particular gene. If you

have those side effects with any statin, you have that gene turned on, and you

will have the effects from all statins, including the naturally occurring ones.

Co-Q10 seems to reduce the effects a little, but it does not stop them.

The soluble fiber and plant sterols really just prevent absorption of dietary

cholesterol. Most elevated levels are generated in the liver, but cutting

dietary cholesterol and taking the fiber won't hurt. If you are off the statins,

you should probably limit the Co-Q10.

My wife takes Prevalite, which is cholestyramine. Same idea.

Chuck