Guest guest Posted May 4, 2011 Report Share Posted May 4, 2011 Chuck, Roni, , Monserrat, etc, Thank you all for clueing me and others in on Acella, and some of the other natural alternatives to Levoxyl (=Synthroid)--as well as other things one needs to be aware of. All in all, a hard choice at this point, __________________________________________________________________________ > From: hypothyroidism <hypothyroidism > > Subject: Digest Number 5167 > hypothyroidism > Date: Wednesday, May 4, 2011, 5:19 AM > There are 8 messages in this issue. > > Topics in this digest: > > 1a. ACELLA. WAS: New FDA-approved natural thyroid > supplement > From: > 1b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2011 Report Share Posted May 4, 2011 Generally, it is best to take natural dessicated thyroid. The choice one used to be Armour here in the U.S. but about 1.5 yrs ago the FDA made them reformulate it and it doesn't work very well AT ALL for many people. I had to switch to Erfa (made in Canada) which you can order from a Canadian Pharmacy. Also, there is Naturethroid which is very good as well. Personally, I would recommend the natural dessicated opposed to Synthroid, etc. which are synthetic and never worked for me. Probably not a good idea to take T3 only unless you have a problem that needs that. T4 is the storage thyroid hormone and it is converted to T3 as the body needs it but some aren't able to convert it very well and need ATP cofactors or other supplements. If your vitamin D is low, it may lower your thyroid function. There are many, many people who suffer from low T3 and need the natural thyroid. I don't know of any synthetic (big pharma) thyroid med that gives both T3 and T4, it's the T4 only type. You might also want to check out the iodine protocol at: iodine If you have low thyroid, you'll want to do the iodine which I strongly recommend. Ariel On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 1:06 PM, brian cooper <brianevans_99@...>wrote: > > > Chuck, Roni, , Monserrat, etc, > > Thank you all for clueing me and others in on Acella, and some of the other > natural alternatives to Levoxyl (=Synthroid)--as well as other things one > needs to be aware of. > > All in all, a hard choice at this point, > > > __________________________________________________________ > > > > > From: hypothyroidism <hypothyroidism > > > Subject: Digest Number 5167 > > hypothyroidism > > Date: Wednesday, May 4, 2011, 5:19 AM > > There are 8 messages in this issue. > > > > Topics in this digest: > > > > 1a. ACELLA. WAS: New FDA-approved natural thyroid > > supplement > > From: > > 1b. > > -- * " Throughout much of the world, most people are busy being boring. " * -*Tom Donohue* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2011 Report Share Posted May 4, 2011 Ariel, You wrote: > ...The choice one > used to be Armour here in the U.S. but about 1.5 yrs ago the FDA made them > reformulate it and it doesn't work very well AT ALL for many people.... Technically, the FDA did not make them reformulate. Forest Pharmaceuticals did not seem to be able to keep up with demand about four years ago, so there were competing new suppliers springing up around the globe. FDA announced it was eventually going to make ALL of these companies prove their products were safe and effective. That may have been at Forest's request to shake out the newer competitors. The reformulation that followed this announcement may have been intended to provide a margin of safety on the issue of shelf life and stability for the coming crack down, which has not happened yet. It may just give Forest an edge against competitors that have not yet addressed the stability problems. > ... There are many, many people who suffer from low T3 and need the natural > thyroid. I don't know of any synthetic (big pharma) thyroid med that gives > both T3 and T4, it's the T4 only type.... Thyrolar and Liotrix are both well known synthetic combinations that have been around for years. Combinations, whether dessicated or synthetic, may act like T3 only for many people, if they have absorption problems or take meds with food, since these only interfere with the T4 component. Chuck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2011 Report Share Posted May 4, 2011 Thanks for the correction, Chuck, much appreciated and very interesting. On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 4:30 PM, <gumboyaya@...> wrote: > > > Ariel, > > You wrote: > > ...The choice one > > > used to be Armour here in the U.S. but about 1.5 yrs ago the FDA made > them > > reformulate it and it doesn't work very well AT ALL for many people.... > > Technically, the FDA did not make them reformulate. Forest Pharmaceuticals > did not seem to be able to keep up with demand about four years ago, so > there were competing new suppliers springing up around the globe. FDA > announced it was eventually going to make ALL of these companies prove their > products were safe and effective. That may have been at Forest's request to > shake out the newer competitors. The reformulation that followed this > announcement may have been intended to provide a margin of safety on the > issue of shelf life and stability for the coming crack down, which has not > happened yet. It may just give Forest an edge against competitors that have > not yet addressed the stability problems. > > > ... There are many, many people who suffer from low T3 and need the > natural > > > thyroid. I don't know of any synthetic (big pharma) thyroid med that > gives > > both T3 and T4, it's the T4 only type.... > > Thyrolar and Liotrix are both well known synthetic combinations that have > been around for years. > > Combinations, whether dessicated or synthetic, may act like T3 only for > many people, if they have absorption problems or take meds with food, since > these only interfere with the T4 component. > > Chuck > > > -- * " Throughout much of the world, most people are busy being boring. " * -*Tom Donohue* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2011 Report Share Posted May 5, 2011 I used Thyrolar for many years without difficulty, but then the insurance wouldn't pay for it and I ended up with Armour. Their product ingredient change made me very ill and now I've been on T3 only (liothyronine) ever since. Roni From: " gumboyaya@... " <gumboyaya@...> hypothyroidism Sent: Wednesday, May 4, 2011 1:30 PM Subject: Re: Fw: Digest Number 5167 Ariel, You wrote: > ...The choice one > used to be Armour here in the U.S. but about 1.5 yrs ago the FDA made them > reformulate it and it doesn't work very well AT ALL for many people.... Technically, the FDA did not make them reformulate. Forest Pharmaceuticals did not seem to be able to keep up with demand about four years ago, so there were competing new suppliers springing up around the globe. FDA announced it was eventually going to make ALL of these companies prove their products were safe and effective. That may have been at Forest's request to shake out the newer competitors. The reformulation that followed this announcement may have been intended to provide a margin of safety on the issue of shelf life and stability for the coming crack down, which has not happened yet. It may just give Forest an edge against competitors that have not yet addressed the stability problems. > ... There are many, many people who suffer from low T3 and need the natural > thyroid. I don't know of any synthetic (big pharma) thyroid med that gives > both T3 and T4, it's the T4 only type.... Thyrolar and Liotrix are both well known synthetic combinations that have been around for years. Combinations, whether dessicated or synthetic, may act like T3 only for many people, if they have absorption problems or take meds with food, since these only interfere with the T4 component. Chuck ------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2011 Report Share Posted May 5, 2011 Hi, Ariel. AFAIK there is no credible support from properly conducted studies to support the notion that dessicated thyroid is best. AFAIK all such studies have failed to show any benefit from dessicated over manufactured. After all the T3 and T4 from the manufactured product is bioidentical with that made by your body and to that in the dessicated product. As a matter of fact ALL of the T3/T4 from whatever source is bioidentical. The fillers, binders and coloring agents do vary from one manufacturer to another; however these are deliberately chosen to be inert. Synthetic T3/T4 medications are readily available. As for the iodine, beware. The " iodine docs " typically recommend from 50 to 100 mg [that's 50,000 to 100,000 mcg] per day; the RDA of iodine is about 150 mcg [i hope I didn't screw up the units]. Side effects of iodine poisoning may start to appear between 1000 and 1500 mcg/day and with some people such doses can and have caused death. The iodine docs have no credibility whatsoever in any credible venue and their [so-called] " research " is published in venues which similarly have no credible support. In allopathic medicine they are know as quacks. They cannot get anything published in a credible peer reviewed science venue, period. It so happens that they are all associated with or owners of a company that produces iodine products. Luck, .. .. > Posted by: " Ariel Monserrat " wolvenwood@... > <mailto:wolvenwood@...?Subject=%20Re%3A%20Fw%3A%20%5Bhypothyroidism%5D%20D\ igest%20Number%205167> > wolvenwood <wolvenwood> > > > Wed May 4, 2011 10:57 am (PDT) > > > > Generally, it is best to take natural dessicated thyroid. The choice one > used to be Armour here in the U.S. but about 1.5 yrs ago the FDA made them > reformulate it and it doesn't work very well AT ALL for many people. I had > to switch to Erfa (made in Canada) which you can order from a Canadian > Pharmacy. Also, there is Naturethroid which is very good as well. > Personally, I would recommend the natural dessicated opposed to Synthroid, > etc. which are synthetic and never worked for me. > Probably not a good idea to take T3 only unless you have a problem that > needs that. T4 is the storage thyroid hormone and it is converted to T3 as > the body needs it but some aren't able to convert it very well and > need ATP > cofactors or other supplements. If your vitamin D is low, it may lower > your > thyroid function. > There are many, many people who suffer from low T3 and need the natural > thyroid. I don't know of any synthetic (big pharma) thyroid med that gives > both T3 and T4, it's the T4 only type. > You might also want to check out the iodine protocol at: > iodine <mailto:iodine%40> > If you have low thyroid, you'll want to do the iodine which I strongly > recommend. > Ariel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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