Guest guest Posted September 1, 2000 Report Share Posted September 1, 2000 Hi, also important, is that one should consume raw, fresh pressed flax seed oil. When the oil can sit on the self indefinately, whether in capsule or liquid form, well, it is dead and not fit for human consumption. Sincerely, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2001 Report Share Posted July 30, 2001 Fish Oil/Flax Oil Tablets: Recommended Dose: 1-2 tablets 1-3 times a day. Start Slow and build up slowly. Information: Several studies suggest that not all fats are the same and that indeed some fats be good for you and treat and reverse different types of disease. Recent studies of the so called Mediterranean diet suggest that relatively high amounts fat as olive oil actually improved survival. In another study addition of the omega 3 fatty acids (olive oil) improved the outcome of patients with bipolar (manic depressive) disease. Fish and fish oil, rich sources of omega-3 fatty acids, have sparked intense interest studies, which suggest a favorable effect on Heart Disease and other studies, which show a striking improvement in lipid profiles in hyperlipidemic patients. Patients after gastric bypass malabsorb fat and calories in part leading to the weight loss. One concern is the possible deficiency of essential fatty acids. It may be a good idea to take a fatty acid supplement of fish or flax seed oil. It also may be advantageous to use olive oil when possible. Corn and safflower oils on the other hand may not be good choices. Fish Oil > Hi Group, > > Sorry to only post when I have a question .... Can someone please tell me > what we take the Fish Oil for? And also, everyone please have as much fun as > possible at the picnic. and I are envious. (sp?) > > thanks, > Kaye/Colorado > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 28, 2002 Report Share Posted September 28, 2002 Hello again.. hope people are not getting too bored by the fish oil saga Reseach has shown the content of EPA DHA combination products, can differ enormously from that indicated by some manufacturers. see .. http://consumerlab.com/results/omega3.asp quote ... Six of the 20 products failed to pass the review due to inadequate amounts of the DHA, which ranged from 50% to 83% of the amounts stated on the labels (see <A HREF= " http://consumerlab.com/results/omega3side.asp#test " >Testing Methods and Passing Score</A>). Two of these six products were also found to contain only 33% and 82%, respectively, of their labeled amounts of EPA. Interestingly, two of the products that failed made claims on their labels that their " potency " had been " tested " or " verified. " Some of the ones that were correct are.... Carlson Super Omega-3 Fish Oils (300 mg EPA, 200 mg DHA per softgel)** Dale ® Omega-3 Fish Oil Concentrate (234 mg EPA, 125 mg DHA per softgel)** Nutrilite® Omega 3 Complex Dietary Supplement (300 mg fish oil, 65 mg EPA, 45 mg DHA per softgel) Puritan's Pride® Inspired By Nature™ Salmon Oil 500mg (500 mg fish oil, 40 mg EPA, 60 mg DHA per softgel) Vitamin World® Naturally Inspired™ EPA Natural Fish Oil 1000mg (1,000 mg fish oil, 180 mg EPA, 120 mg DHA per softgel) However none of the above seem to approch the magic 4:1 ratio of EPA to DHA that may be best for CFS/ME.. Nordic Naturals EPA formula apparently has approximate EPA/ DHA allegedly of ratio of 4.5:1. EPA per capsule 450 mg, DHA per capsule 100mg, Other Omega 3 50 mg, Vitamin E (mixed tocopherols) 9 IU While Equazen Eye Q (as has been noted before) has EPA/DHA ratio somewhere between 3.3 :1 and 4:1 As we have previously noted, most of the research studies seem to have used product Efamol of various types. It may be worth the group making a list of EPA/DHA products that get close to these ratios? There are other products that seem to contain EPA (and other ingredients) without the accompaning DHA .. such as ProSure™ by Ensure®. One wonders whether these may be effective? Especially if one is already getting DHA from other sources in the diet. see http://www.prosure.com/compareProducts.asp Presumeably one reason the ratio may vary is not only sloppy manufacture (by those that don't pass muster) but also because the products are made from natural sources. Therfore climate, tidal currents, where the fish are caught, season of year etc. and ultimately the quality of the plankton. Plus has been noted before... the purity of the products is also a major issue. Puts the food chain into context doesn't it .. and why we have to look after the earth? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 29, 2002 Report Share Posted September 29, 2002 The Fish Oil saga continues.... I have found one reference, and it is the only one I have found to date, amongst all the pro fish oil ones, after an extensive search, that for some CFS/ME patients fish oils may be less suitable (high arachidonic acid content) than vegetable oils. It probably depends on the particular sub group as to how effective the fish oil or vegetable oil is, however, it does highlight the importance of trying to taylor an individual regime. it at this site http://osiris.sunderland.ac.uk/autism/hooperpg1.htm Please note: this site also contains some other information, which I found of great interest, but is probably better for those who are interested in the wider relationship between Gulf War Sydrome and CFS to discover themselves. quote begins..... Hugh - 'The Development of Laboratory-Based Tests in Chronic pain and Fatigue: Essential Fatty Acids and Cholesterol' CFS patients had significantly different fatty acid and sterol fasting plasma profiles from controls. The former showed a decrease in elaidic acid, an increase in stearic acid, and had lower levels of cholesterol. They could be divided into different sub-groups on the basis of their profiles. In contrast the control group were homogeneous in their lipid profiles. Discriminant analysis showed clear differences between different CFS symptom indices, see Figure, including age, <25 and >25 patients. This analysis provides a basis for treatment by lipid and micronutrient (Zn, Mg, Mn, Vitamin A, B6, antioxidants) supplementation- fish oils are less suitable (high arachidonic acid content) than vegetable oils. In some CFS patients there is poor cholesterol absorption as a result of a highly compromised GIT. .... quote ends Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 29, 2002 Report Share Posted September 29, 2002 Hi and All, I have heard that a certain B vitamin or vitamins, prevent the negative effect of arachidonic acid. Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 29, 2002 Report Share Posted September 29, 2002 Hi everyone? I read today that magnesium helps the metabolisation of fatty acids. I wonder if the fatty acid deficiency we have is due to magnesium deficiency. Take care. Nil Re: Fish Oil | Hi and All, | I have heard that a certain B vitamin or | vitamins, | prevent the negative effect of arachidonic acid. | | | Mike | | | | | | | This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences with each other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in any treatment discussed here, please consult your doctor. | | Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2002 Report Share Posted October 2, 2002 Vicky, In your message dated 02/mm/2002 2:39:36 PM GMT Daylight Time, v.gifford@... writes: > I'm delighted for everyone who is getting very excited about the > possible benefits of fish oil (or should I say high EPA fish oil). I > have now tried the Eye Q supplement and had exactly the same adverse > reactions that I always seem to get to EFAs. My jaw muscle spasms got > much worse and during the night I had excruciating cramp/muscle spasms > in my calves. Vicky I am sorry that you are having such adverse reactions to the fish oil, it sounds awful, and I am sure everyone agrees that it is not a good idea to take this in your individual case, at least until you know what is happening and why. You did say before that you could not tolerate any fish oil in your posting of 25/9. Knowing that you were allergic to fish oil, if you could have taken it, and not had an adverse reaction, it would have been great, but in the circumstaces perhaps it is not an unexpected reaction. Do you find that you get the same adverse reaction to EFA vegetable oils too? Your posting talks of a reaction to EFA in general. May I ask what oils can you take without having the adverse reaction? So far, I have had no adverse reactions to Equazen Eye Q, but I was not anticpating any. After just over only a week, it is still too early to tell if I am gaining any benefit. I do feel slightly more on the ball mentally, especially in the mornings, but I know that my normal variations of the CFS/ME symptoms are really so variable, that I cannot yet draw any inference. There has been no change to the continous muscle aches in my thighs. I do not think anyone on here has become too excited about it. Everyone seems to agree that any oil taken, has to be attuned very carefully to the individual's specific needs and responses. Even an adverse reaction, might tell you something positive, in terms of what is happening with your individual biochemistry. Have you consulted a nutritionalist or allegy specialist? I am sure everyone wishes you a speedy return to your previous state, and hopes that you find something to assist you soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2002 Report Share Posted October 2, 2002 Just to inform you ! The day I started taking Flax oil,I noticed the differance.The effect was basicly on my brain fog. Nil Re: Fish Oil | Vicky, | | In your message dated 02/mm/2002 2:39:36 PM GMT Daylight Time, | v.gifford@... writes: | | | > I'm delighted for everyone who is getting very excited about the | > possible benefits of fish oil (or should I say high EPA fish oil). I | > have now tried the Eye Q supplement and had exactly the same adverse | > reactions that I always seem to get to EFAs. My jaw muscle spasms got | > much worse and during the night I had excruciating cramp/muscle spasms | > in my calves. | | Vicky | I am sorry that you are having such adverse reactions to the fish oil, it | sounds awful, and I am sure everyone agrees that it is not a good idea to | take this in your individual case, at least until you know what is happening | and why. | | You did say before that you could not tolerate any fish oil in your posting | of 25/9. Knowing that you were allergic to fish oil, if you could have taken | it, and not had an adverse reaction, it would have been great, but in the | circumstaces perhaps it is not an unexpected reaction. | | Do you find that you get the same adverse reaction to EFA vegetable oils too? | Your posting talks of a reaction to EFA in general. | | May I ask what oils can you take without having the adverse reaction? | | So far, I have had no adverse reactions to Equazen Eye Q, but I was not | anticpating any. | | After just over only a week, it is still too early to tell if I am gaining | any benefit. I do feel slightly more on the ball mentally, especially in the | mornings, but I know that my normal variations of the CFS/ME symptoms are | really so variable, that I cannot yet draw any inference. | | There has been no change to the continous muscle aches in my thighs. | | I do not think anyone on here has become too excited about it. Everyone seems | to agree that any oil taken, has to be attuned very carefully to the | individual's specific needs and responses. | | Even an adverse reaction, might tell you something positive, in terms of what | is happening with your individual biochemistry. Have you consulted a | nutritionalist or allegy specialist? | | I am sure everyone wishes you a speedy return to your previous state, and | hopes that you find something to assist you soon. | | | | | Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2002 Report Share Posted October 2, 2002 Hi everyone! I have fish oil on the brain at the moment, in more ways than one, and apologies for returning to the topic, yet again! I was woken up this morning by the nice lady on the BBC (second only in the headlines that Bush was declaring war on Iraq again) calmly annoucing that eating one portion of 'poison' (in the form of oily fish) a week is good for us, but to eat two portions of 'poison' is bad. Am I alone in thinking this is something of a contradiction? It is not an alarming admission for the government to state that we have poisoned the very food that we eat? see http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/2293007.stm Spokesperson from Food Standards Agency said .. " ...In the meantime, we'd recommend that consumers eat oily fish no more than once a week, and remember that fish oil supplements - such as cod liver oil - may be contaminated too. " Obviously, this highlights again the need to be very careful about which fish oil supplements we are taking, to ensure that they come from a source that has very high quality control. Just grabbing the nearest EFA fish supplement off the supermaket shelf is unfortunately, likely to be potentially poisonous. Although this was on BBC radio, this is a global issue that affects us all wherever we live, whether we are Eskimos or South Sea Islanders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2002 Report Share Posted October 2, 2002 Because the link to the BBC news web page that I referred to in my preceding e mail is likely only to be short lived, I have taken the liberty of copying the whole article for anyone interested so that it can be recorded in the archive. Thursday, 3 October, 2002, 01:03 GMT 02:03 UK Public ignorant of oily fish guidance People are not aware what types of fish are 'oily' People do not know how much oily fish it is healthy to eat, say researchers. It can reduce the risk of heart attacks and improve circulation. But fish such as mackerel, salmon and swordfish may contain high levels of potentially carcinogenic chemicals, and others, including shark, marlin and swordfish contain high levels of mercury. A survey by Which? magazine found only a sixth of fish eaters knew they should only eat oily fish once a week. More than half thought they should eat two or more portions. Oily fish Herring Kippers Mackeral Marlin Pilchards Salmon Sardines Sprats Swordfish Trout Fresh (not tinned) tuna In fact, the advice is to eat two portions of fish per week, one of which should be oily. Two thirds of the 970 people surveyed were unaware oily fish could contain potentially harmful chemicals. Long-term exposure to PCBs and dioxins in animals has been shown to cause damage to the immune and reproductive systems and may cause cancer in humans. Mercury Eating more than one portion of oily fish a week means someone is more likely to exceed the tolerable daily intake for dioxins and PCBs. Which? says this will not automatically result in a health risk, and it is the overall intake over long periods of time that matters. 'As part of a balanced and varied diet, people should eat at least two portions of fish a week, one of which should be oily' Food Standards Agency spokeswoman Just 7% of those surveyed knew about recent advice from the Food Standards Agency that pregnant women, women who intend to become pregnant, infants and children under 16 should avoid fish which could have high mercury levels, but none knew the details. Only 1% knew pregnant women should avoid certain types of fish because of mercury levels, but no-one could name the fish. Many people did not even know which kinds of fish were classed as oily, with 14% wrongly identifying cod as an oily fish. Sardines and mackerel were the only ones correctly identified by most people. Which? criticises the FSA's advice as " vague and difficult to follow " . It questions how big the recommended one portion a week should be. Contamination Helen , editor of Which? said: " The FSA needs to ensure its advice reaches the people who need to know. " Pregnant women and those planning to become pregnant are priority groups. " And the advice itself must be clear and actionable - explaining exactly which fish are involved, what a portion means, and the risk of exceeding the guidelines. " She added: " We welcome the news that the FSA is bringing together experts to review the benefits and risks of oily fish, and we hope its future advice will be more detailed and easier to follow. " In the meantime, we'd recommend that consumers eat oily fish no more than once a week, and remember that fish oil supplements - such as cod liver oil - may be contaminated too. " A spokeswoman for the FSA told BBC News Online: " We welcome this survey and will be studying its findings carefully. " What we advise is that, as part of a balanced and varied diet, people should eat at least two portions of fish a week, one of which should be oily. " We have however, been asked about the risks and benefits of eating larger amounts of oily fish and are seeking the advice of our experts on this. " At present though, most people eat considerably less fish that we recommend. " She said the FSA was constantly looking at ways of improving how it provided information to the public. Follow recommendations Sara Stanner of the British Nutrition Foundation told BBC News Online: " We agree that there is good evidence for health benefits of n-3 fatty acids, particularly in relation to cardiovascular disease which is the biggest killer in the UK. " The FSA recommend that people eat one portion of oily fish per week. " If people do follow this recommendation their intake of dioxins and other contaminants should not be at a level to confer a health risk. " quote ends Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2002 Report Share Posted October 3, 2002 Well, inasmuch as the entire earth is contaminated, the soil, the water, the air, every cell in all the tissue in every living organism; we're left, always, with imperfect choices. Eating " organic " foods doesn't insure that the foods are pesticide free, only that those foods are considerably less toxic than their " conventional " counterparts. Assuming you don't accept the view that fish should not be eaten under any circumstances, I think it makes good sense to search out the least contaminated fish, from among available choices, and obviously, makes very good sense to eat 1 serving rather than 2 servings. 1 serving, I believe, provides the benefit of fish oils (and other nutritive values), that have not become as rancid as the oils often found in many, if not most, fish oil capsules. 1 serving of fish, will give you nearly all the good that fish can do us, with minimum toxicity. 2 servings will not provide much more of these good values, but will double your toxic intake. Are any of us prepared to argue, that eating one serving of fish will harm us more, and benefit us less, than not eating any fish at all? Perhaps that proposition is true. I'm not sure. At this time, I continue to eat 1 serving of fish, usually Atlantic Salmon, a week. When you eat fish, you're told by numerous " authorities, " that it will benefit your cardiovascular health, aid against cancer, lower blood pressure, improve vision, etc. So, it isn't just one serving or two servings of poison we're talking about here, it's a trade-off. It's obvious that we can easily worry too little about what we eat. But, given a healthy conscientiousness about diet and nutrition, there is a point at which we can worry too much about our diet, as if every conceivable mistake must be avoided, and every conceivable advantage that we can extract from constant vigilance and study is the only way to live healthfully. Re: Fish Oil > Hi everyone! > > I have fish oil on the brain at the moment, in more ways than one, and > apologies for returning to the topic, yet again! > > I was woken up this morning by the nice lady on the BBC (second only in the > headlines that Bush was declaring war on Iraq again) calmly annoucing that > eating one portion of 'poison' (in the form of oily fish) a week is good for > us, but to eat two portions of 'poison' is bad. > > Am I alone in thinking this is something of a contradiction? It is not an > alarming admission for the government to state that we have poisoned the very > food that we eat? > > see > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/2293007.stm > > Spokesperson from Food Standards Agency said .. " ...In the meantime, we'd > recommend that consumers eat oily fish no more than once a week, and remember > that fish oil supplements - such as cod liver oil - may be contaminated too. " > > > Obviously, this highlights again the need to be very careful about which fish > oil supplements we are taking, to ensure that they come from a source that > has very high quality control. > > Just grabbing the nearest EFA fish supplement off the supermaket shelf is > unfortunately, likely to be potentially poisonous. > > Although this was on BBC radio, this is a global issue that affects us all > wherever we live, whether we are Eskimos or South Sea Islanders. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2002 Report Share Posted October 3, 2002 Hi All, for fish oils I take the TwinLab, line of liquid fish oils. I specifically take their Super Max EPA and Cod Liver Oil The company says on their website that all their fish and marine oil products are carefully screened to avoid toxic metals and chemicals. I don't know if there are companys out there that actually give the actually purity of their product. I have no business interest or relationship with TwinLab. Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2002 Report Share Posted October 3, 2002 Hi, all. At the FMS/CFS conference in Los Angeles a few days back, there was a session in which fish oil was advocated, for the same reasons that have been discussed here on the list: it provides the more highly metabolized forms of omega-6 fatty acids (DHA and EPA), which is an advantage for people who don't have active delta 6 desaturase. There was also considerable discussion about mercury toxicity. In the question and answer session, I asked the panel of speakers how we can be sure that our fish oil does not have significant mercury contamination. I got two responses. One said that there are only a few actual packers of fish oil capsules and that by now this problem is pretty well under control. Another speaker said that if there was any doubt, a person should ask for results of lab analysis, and that these should be available, because they are done routinely by the reputable packers of fish oil capsules. As was mentioned earlier, the down side of using fish oil capsules is that if they are old, the oil can be rancid. However, the downside of eating oil-containing fish is that you won't be able to get a lab analysis of the mercury content. So it seems to me that the best alternative is to go with a well-established brand, ask them for lab results, and try to get it from a supplier whose stocks are moving rapidly. Rich > Hi All, > for fish oils I take the TwinLab, line of liquid fish > oils. I specifically take their Super Max EPA and Cod Liver Oil > The company says on their website that all their fish > and marine oil products are carefully screened to avoid toxic > metals and chemicals. I don't know if there are companys > out there that actually give the actually purity of their > product. > I have no business interest or relationship with TwinLab. > > > Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2002 Report Share Posted October 3, 2002 <<< As was mentioned earlier, the down side of using fish oil capsules is > that if they are old, the oil can be rancid. >>> Could you store an extra jar or two in your freezer without it going rancid? TIA, Katzburg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2002 Report Share Posted October 3, 2002 I suspect that this would work if it were well-sealed, so that oxygen could not get to the oil. Rich > <<< As was mentioned earlier, the down side of using fish oil capsules is > > that if they are old, the oil can be rancid. >>> > > Could you store an extra jar or two in your freezer without it going > rancid? > > TIA, > > Katzburg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2003 Report Share Posted April 2, 2003 Tracey, I have tried many recommended fish oil supplements in the past and also got sick on them. However, one of my doctors recommended Nordic Naturals Cod liver oil liquid. It's the best tasting cod liver oil I'ver ever had. It does not have a fishy taste or smell and I did not get any ill effects from it. The company is also coming out with Fish oil in a liquid form in a couple of months. Currently, their fish oil is in capsule form. You can do a google search for Nordic Naturals and look at their products & info on the web site. You might want to try liquid first as may be a little easier to adjust the dosage. -Jan > I tried fish oil a few years ago from the health food store. I was > jittery and ill within an hour of taking 2 tablets. I was up all night > feeling speedy and sick. And brought it back to the health food store > for a return. > > Now I just saw Dr. Rosenbaum for the first time yesterday. He sold me > pharmaceutical grade fish oil from Nordic Naturals. I had forgotten > what had happened to me with fish oil years ago but luckily my husband > just reminded me. I am afraid to even try this fish oil. I have gone > back and read that other pwcs have experienced bad reactions from it > too. Maybe I'm TH2 shifted? How do you find out if you are? > > I was also concerned that the doctor wanted me to start with a double > dose of fish oil capsules right off the bat! He and I only had a > discussion, I've done no testing yet and he hasn't even examined me :{ > > Tracey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2003 Report Share Posted April 30, 2003 I,m not sure about that, but, I,m going to start using Coconut oil a few spoonfulls aday in salds and such , I have been doing research and have discovered it speeds up the metabolism and is being recommeded for us with HYpothyroid, it will help with weigt reduction !! Haneefa fish oil Ok, is fish oil good for your skin?? I just started taking this stuff errr ummm Sunday I think and I can tell a big difference in my skin!! ~LeahLove Chinchillas?? Check out Chinchilla Fluff & Stuff for GREAT chinchilla collectibles!!! http://www.cafeshops.com/chinchillastuffAlso check out my other online store "Animal Art" http://www.cafeshops.com/petsandwildlife Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2003 Report Share Posted April 30, 2003 Hi Haneefa....I have also ordered coconut oil and am just waiting for it to arrive :-) I hope it does all it claims it do!! ~LeahLove Chinchillas?? Check out Chinchilla Fluff & Stuff for GREAT chinchilla collectibles!!! http://www.cafeshops.com/chinchillastuffAlso check out my other online store "Animal Art" http://www.cafeshops.com/petsandwildlife fish oil Ok, is fish oil good for your skin?? I just started taking this stuff errr ummm Sunday I think and I can tell a big difference in my skin!! ~LeahLove Chinchillas?? Check out Chinchilla Fluff & Stuff for GREAT chinchilla collectibles!!! http://www.cafeshops.com/chinchillastuffAlso check out my other online store "Animal Art" http://www.cafeshops.com/petsandwildlife Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2003 Report Share Posted April 30, 2003 I'm not sure about this coconut oil. Please post and let us all know how it works for you. I have seen people post to the coconut oil list asking what kinds of results people are seeing from using it, and I have posted the same inquiry myself and NO ONE ever responds lol Makes me wonder if anyone is seeing any results..... ~LeahLove Chinchillas?? Check out Chinchilla Fluff & Stuff for GREAT chinchilla collectibles!!! http://www.cafeshops.com/chinchillastuffAlso check out my other online store "Animal Art" http://www.cafeshops.com/petsandwildlife fish oil Ok, is fish oil good for your skin?? I just started taking this stuff errr ummm Sunday I think and I can tell a big difference in my skin!! ~LeahLove Chinchillas?? Check out Chinchilla Fluff & Stuff for GREAT chinchilla collectibles!!! http://www.cafeshops.com/chinchillastuffAlso check out my other online store "Animal Art" http://www.cafeshops.com/petsandwildlife Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 10, 2004 Report Share Posted September 10, 2004 , I can't tell you about the protocol for when...but I can tell you that they primarily come in gel capsule form. The highest quality, most cost-effective brand is the Kirkland-Costco brand. My clients are routinely told to go to Costco and get a bucket o' fish oils! For those who cannot tolerate the burp, I recommend Coromega--it is formulated to taste like a creamsicle. You can get free samples at www.coromega.com. Unfortunately for those who do not like fish, DHA and EPA are not readily found in the food supply. The only other sources I know of currently are Smart Balance Plus margarine and Eggland's Best Eggs. SBP has both DHA and EPA because it has fish oil in it. SBP has DHA only, but once tissues are saturated with enough DHA there will start to be retroconversion to EPA. Hopefully this situation will change now that menhaden has been approved as GRAS by FDA. I have a web page on omega 3's with minimum dosages, etc.--www.afterthediet.com/omega3.htm. The people I know who work in this area have told me if you are not diligent with getting these FA's a sporadic intake does not really help you. In fact, one expert who works with me on my PCOS conference has surmised that the recommendations I have posted are likely to creep up as research documents the importance of these FA's. Hope this helps, Monika M. Woolsey, MS, RD http://www.afterthediet.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2005 Report Share Posted February 12, 2005 Well Kay, I was given Cod Liver Oil as a child and teen and most in my generation were. It is also full of good cholesterol I believe. Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2005 Report Share Posted February 12, 2005 Kay, After reading an article touting its benefits, I asked my both my gp and rheumy about fish oil. They both said it seems to help reduce arthritic inflammation, as well as a host of other benefits - for the heart, kidneys, etc. Both encouraged me to give it a try. I only started taking it a few weeks ago so it's a bit early to expect results I suppose - but so far I haven't noticed any difference. Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2005 Report Share Posted February 12, 2005 Kay, I've been taking an essential fatty acid complex for quite some time now, and I love it. Instead of just fish oil, I take a complex that has fish, flax, and borage oils in it, so that I get a better mix of EFA's. The omega fatty acids found in the essential fatty acids are good for just about every function of the body. The one down side? You " will " burp up a fishy taste! My hubby and I have both noticed this, no matter what we do. Along with the things you mentioned, they can help lower the cholesterol level, reduce the risk of blood clots, help with eczema, psoriasis, aid in the transmission of nerve impulses, reduce blood pressure, improve the condition of hair and nails, and are needed for normal development and functioning of the brain. The one important thing to remember when you are purchasing ANY essential fatty acid is to see how it was processed. EFA's must be " cold processed " , because heat destroys them, and also creates dangerous free radicals. Jen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2005 Report Share Posted February 12, 2005 Kay, This was suggested to me a little while back to help with my triglycerides after having serious side effects to Lopid recently. I haven't gotten on it yet as it costs much more, and I'm looking for a more reasonable provider. However, she has been taking it for several years, and is the only person out of her family of 7 who does not have raging cholesterol and heart issues, and the rest are on the medications to reduce them....I figure it's worth trying;o) Susie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2005 Report Share Posted February 12, 2005 I don't know if I started out with too high a dose. I will try it again with a lower dose and try to gradually increase what I am taking. I had stomach problems with the oils. I was using and Omega fatty acid which contained the 3 6 and 9's. I hope others haven't had this problem. I know that there are alleged coronary as well as joint benefits to be had from using these in combination. I also have to add that even as a child my stomach hasn't liked fatty or oily foods in any way. I am still a stinker about eating things with much oil in them but I know they are necessary for many aspects of health. GA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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