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Sally:

If you have a problem digesting FATS like I always did, make sure you have some

food in your stomach when you take Cod Liver Oil and ALSO a digestive enzyme

containing Lipase.

Bonnie

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Has anyone else had digestive problems using cod liver oil?

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People vary so much in their ability to produce vitamin D and also their

need. Age is a factor, skin tone and probably health status. An 80 year

old can produce vitamin D only 20% as efficiently as a 20 year old. And

when you are out in the sun, if you not out at midday and are mostly

clothed you are not producing much anyway. When they say you can make

enough vitamin D in 20 minutes in the sun, I think they mean a fair

skinned 20 year old, in a bikini midday in the summer.

Irene

At 07:24 PM 7/1/2008, you wrote:

Does anyone know why my

daughters Vitamin D level is good and mine was

so low, when I am outside WAY more then she is? I am on supplements now

and she doesn't need it! I work in my gardens all summer long. She goes

from the house, to work, to the gym, to school. I thought maybe it had

something to do with being hypo but then we found out she is

also.

Thanks, Janie

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Weight and BMI (those are different things) make a huge difference too.

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> People vary so much in their ability to produce vitamin D and also

> their need. Age is a factor, skin tone and probably health status. An

> 80 year old can produce vitamin D only 20% as efficiently as a 20 year

> old. And when you are out in the sun, if you not out at midday and are

> mostly clothed you are not producing much anyway. When they say you

> can make enough vitamin D in 20 minutes in the sun, I think they mean

> a fair skinned 20 year old, in a bikini midday in the summer.

> Irene

>

>

> At 07:24 PM 7/1/2008, you wrote:

>

>> Does anyone know why my daughters Vitamin D level is good and mine was

>> so low, when I am outside WAY more then she is? I am on supplements now

>> and she doesn't need it! I work in my gardens all summer long. She goes

>> from the house, to work, to the gym, to school. I thought maybe it had

>> something to do with being hypo but then we found out she is also.

>>

>> Thanks, Janie

>>

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In a message dated 7/1/2008 10:25:21 PM Eastern Daylight Time, JanieBea@... writes:

Does anyone know why my daughters Vitamin D level is good and mine was so low, when I am outside WAY more then she is?

If you wear sunscreen, you will block vitamin D senthesis in your skin. Also, if one is overweight, the excess fat can sequester vitamin D. Best book on this topic that includes charts to figure out best time for sun exposure to get sufficient vitamin D depending upon where you live and the season is Holick MD's "UV Advantage." Do a search online to get his website address which also contains lots of helpful info. I live in NYC and Nov-Feb the sun is simply not strong enough for vitamin D senthesis. Health conditions also can affect vitamin D levels such as diabetes and hypothyroid. The supplement should help but nothing beats sufficient sunshine on bare skin (no sunscreen) at mid-day. Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars.

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Normal for her, and normal for you...are not gonna be the same...you are two

different women.

You may not produce as much cholesterol as you did when you were young, and

cholesterol is of course a vital component. Your daughter probably also has more

peripheral fat, and liver storage simply because of her age.

Are you experiencing some deficiency symptoms that are not related to your

hypo?Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars.

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LOL Thank you Irene. I can garentee you I am not 20, that I am not

out there in a bikini and I am not fair skinned, so I guess that

tells me alot. But I do live far into the country where nobody can

see me when I am in my gardens so I don't wear much out there. But I

get your point and you are right. It just kind of hit me as unfair

that I am outside so much and my daughter isn't at all. Darn it!

Thanks, Janie

>

> >Does anyone know why my daughters Vitamin D level is good and mine

was

> >so low, when I am outside WAY more then she is? I am on

supplements now

> >and she doesn't need it! I work in my gardens all summer long. She

goes

> >from the house, to work, to the gym, to school. I thought maybe it

had

> >something to do with being hypo but then we found out she is also.

> >

> >Thanks, Janie

> >

> >

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Thank you for your response Neal, Irene and Annie. Yes I am over

weight so that must be a big reason. No, I never wear sunscreen, I

LOVE my sunshine so much! And I am hypo. My daughter is not over

weight, is more fair skinned then I (blonde hair blue eyes) but is

hypo. Thanks again for all your explanations. (I just got home from

work and am catching up on the posts). I know my question isn't an

earth shattering, have to know, type but I was just curious and a bit

ticked off that mine was low. I didn't expect that.

Janie

>

>

> In a message dated 7/1/2008 10:25:21 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

> JanieBea@... writes:

>

> Does anyone know why my daughters Vitamin D level is good and mine

was

> so low, when I am outside WAY more then she is?

>

> If you wear sunscreen, you will block vitamin D senthesis in your

skin.

> Also, if one is overweight, the excess fat can sequester vitamin

D. Best book on

> this topic that includes charts to figure out best time for sun

exposure to

> get sufficient vitamin D depending upon where you live and the

season is

> Holick MD's " UV Advantage. " Do a search online to get his website

address

> which also contains lots of helpful info. I live in NYC and Nov-

Feb the sun is

> simply not strong enough for vitamin D senthesis. Health

conditions also can

> affect vitamin D levels such as diabetes and hypothyroid. The

supplement

> should help but nothing beats sufficient sunshine on bare skin (no

sunscreen) at

> mid-day.

>

>

>

> **************Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for

> fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?

ncid=aolaut00050000000007)

>

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After my thyroidectomy, the Endocronologist did test my Vit D. It was non existant! I am also very fair, and need to get out in the sun also.

It just feels so odd after hiding from the sun for so long! I now also take a vit D supplement...

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LOL Thank you Irene. I can garentee you I am not 20, that I am not out there in a bikini and I am not fair skinned, so I guess that tells me alot. But I do live far into the country where nobody can see me when I am in my gardens so I don't wear much out there. But I get your point and you are right. It just kind of hit me as unfair that I am outside so much and my daughter isn't at all. Darn it! Thanks, Janie> > >Does anyone know why my daughters Vitamin D level is good and mine was> >so low, when I am outside WAY more then she is? I am on supplements now> >and she doesn't need it! I work in my gardens all summer long. She goes> >from the house, to work, to the gym, to school. I thought maybe it had> >something to do with being hypo but then we found out she is also.> >> >Thanks, Janie> >> >>

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Another chunk on Vitamin D is which form your supplement is. My doctor uses liquid D3. Pill form and the stuff added to food is cheaper and takes 4 times as much supplement to be effective and to absorb and that is D2 form. It is also much harder on the liver and kidneys for the same reason.

They said that north of Georgia the sun is inefficient for most of the year so supplementing my sunning is still necessary. Iron was much easier to fix. Vitamin D acts more like a hormone. Read about 100 pages of a long book on it that was out in email form last year as someone's research project.There are many assorted diseases that are more common the farther north from equator one lives because of vitamin D.

Pam in Oregon

On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 7:29 PM, janiebeau <JanieBea@...> wrote:

Thank you for your response Neal, Irene and Annie. Yes I am over weight so that must be a big reason. No, I never wear sunscreen, I LOVE my sunshine so much! And I am hypo. My daughter is not over weight, is more fair skinned then I (blonde hair blue eyes) but is

hypo. Thanks again for all your explanations. (I just got home from work and am catching up on the posts). I know my question isn't an earth shattering, have to know, type but I was just curious and a bit

ticked off that mine was low. I didn't expect that.Janie >> > In a message dated 7/1/2008 10:25:21 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

> JanieBea@... writes:> > Does anyone know why my daughters Vitamin D level is good and mine was > so low, when I am outside WAY more then she is? > > If you wear sunscreen, you will block vitamin D senthesis in your

skin. > Also, if one is overweight, the excess fat can sequester vitamin D. Best book on > this topic that includes charts to figure out best time for sun exposure to > get sufficient vitamin D depending upon where you live and the

season is > Holick MD's " UV Advantage. " Do a search online to get his website address > which also contains lots of helpful info. I live in NYC and Nov-Feb the sun is > simply not strong enough for vitamin D senthesis. Health

conditions also can > affect vitamin D levels such as diabetes and hypothyroid. The supplement > should help but nothing beats sufficient sunshine on bare skin (no sunscreen) at > mid-day.

> > > > **************Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for > fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?

ncid=aolaut00050000000007)>

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Deficiency symptoms in Vit D? Not that I know of. I didn't even know

I was low until my DR checked it for me. I was just curious as to how

she could have ample amounts when she doesn't go outside much and I

am outside alot and drink raw milk every day. Being low was kind of

shocking to me is all.

Janie

>

> Normal for her, and normal for you...are not gonna be the

same...you are two

> different women.

>

> You may not produce as much cholesterol as you did when you were

young, and

> cholesterol is of course a vital component. Your daughter probably

also has

> more

> peripheral fat, and liver storage simply because of her age.

> Are you experiencing some deficiency symptoms that are not related

to your

> hypo?

>

>

>

> **************Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for

> fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?

ncid=aolaut00050000000007)

>

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Tests from my not very good Gp and I had to tick the boxes on the sly so to speak as he did not think I needed these tests.If I am ok as I am I wont bother it just sounded so good I thought I would try some.I have however bought some Selenium 200ug today and Siberian Ginseng.I also take 1and half Adrenal extra(building slow as I not a good sleeper)Vit C B12 and 3 X omega 3 The things we have to do just to function or hopefully feel well.Hope this helps.

Thanks

Margaret

From: <juliamoonrock@...>thyroid treatment Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 1:18:21 PMSubject: Vit D

Hi Margaret,

your vit d is being measured on a different reference range to mine, Where did these tests results come from....your gp or privately ??? julia

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I don't think this is true. This is the first time I have heard it. In the winter I do tanning beds and I was able to get my levels way up and I always showered after.

Steph

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I've read on Mercola.com that in order for the Vit D to be absorbed from sitting in the sun you would not have to bathe for two days! He notes that it takes that long for it to be absosrbed and encouraged people to only wash the necessary body parts (e.g. underarm, genital etc). I'd rather take Vit D than do this. I use the pure encapsulation liquid Vit D as it is suppose to be more absorbable in this form (5 drops daily is equal to 5000 IU).

Laurie

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Dr. Cannell from the

Vitamin D Council says that sunbathing or using UV lights may not produce much Vitamin

D if you shower with soap after

exposure. Water cleans the body but does not destroy as much sebum, human

body oil. When you think about it, God made the perfect body oil for

humans, sebum, but humans wash off her body oil and then apply body oils made

by the cosmetic industry.

However, I do not see where he mentions a specific time

period. I think it is using soap

that causing the concern.

Another good Vitamin D-3 is Bio D-Mulsion Forte is liquid and provides 2000 IUs

per drop. We get good results,

clinically.

Be Well

Dr.L

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I've

read on Mercola.com that in order for the Vit D to be absorbed from sitting

in the sun you would not have to bathe for two days! He notes that it

takes that long for it to be absosrbed and encouraged people to only wash the

necessary body parts (e.g. underarm, genital etc). I'd rather take Vit

D than do this. I use the pure encapsulation liquid Vit D as it is

suppose to be more absorbable in this form (5 drops daily is equal to 5000

IU).

Laurie

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Hello Dr. Lanphier,How many drops of the Bio D-Mulsion Forte do you suggest your patients to take daily?PamelaFrom: Dr. Loretta Lanphier <drlanphier@...>Subject: RE: re: Vit Diodine Date: Sunday, July 26, 2009, 8:53 PM

Dr. Cannell from the

Vitamin D Council says that sunbathing or using UV lights may not produce much Vitamin

D if you shower with soap after

exposure. Water cleans the body but does not destroy as much sebum, human

body oil. When you think about it, God made the perfect body oil for

humans, sebum, but humans wash off her body oil and then apply body oils made

by the cosmetic industry. However, I do not see where he mentions a specific time

period. I think it is using soap

that causing the concern.

Another good Vitamin D-3 is Bio D-Mulsion Forte is liquid and provides 2000 IUs

per drop. We get good results,

clinically.

Be Well

Dr.L

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It really depends on how deficient one is. Living in Houston where the sun almost

always shines, we test first. If one

tests low then I will start them around 6,000 IUs (3 drops) per day for 3

months. Then we re-test and adjust

accordingly.

If there is disease going on then it’s a

whole new ball game. More aggressive

treatment is indicated in aggressive diseases.

Dr. Cannell also recommends to eat a lot of spinach with vitamin D. To work properly,

Vitamin D needs magnesium, vitamin K, zinc and most likely boron.

Be Well

Dr.L

Hello

Dr. Lanphier,

How many drops of the Bio D-Mulsion Forte do you suggest your

patients to take daily?

Pamela

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I don't think it is true either. Last year I taught two classes a week outside (1 hour each) and my vitamin D levels went way high and I was in the water...and showered afterward to get the chlorine off.

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Isn't the radiation from tanning beds supposed to beterrible for you?AliOn Jul 26, 2009, at 7:10 PM, ladybugsandbees wrote:I don't think this is true. This is the first time I have heard it. In the winter I do tanning beds and I was able to get my levels way up and I always showered after. Steph re: Vit D I've read on Mercola.com that in order for the Vit D to be absorbed from sitting in the sun you would not have to bathe for two days! He notes that it takes that long for it to be absosrbed and encouraged people to only wash the necessary body parts (e.g. underarm, genital etc). I'd rather take Vit D than do this. I use the pure encapsulation liquid Vit D as it is suppose to be more absorbable in this form (5 drops daily is equal to 5000 IU). Laurie

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You have to get electronic ballasts and then it is fine. Mercola did an article on this. You only tan for a max of 5 mins 3x per week. It's not tanning to tan it is tanning to get UV rays. I felt so much better when I did this. My adrenals just wouldn't get moving until I did this. I didn't have to last year so I think I am doing better. But I did it the two years before.

Steph

re: Vit D

I've read on Mercola.com that in order for the Vit D to be absorbed from sitting in the sun you would not have to bathe for two days! He notes that it takes that long for it to be absosrbed and encouraged people to only wash the necessary body parts (e.g. underarm, genital etc). I'd rather take Vit D than do this. I use the pure encapsulation liquid Vit D as it is suppose to be more absorbable in this form (5 drops daily is equal to 5000 IU).

Laurie

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I have combed the research literature (mainly www.pubmed.com) looking

for any randomized controlled trials concluding that sunbeds cause

cancer. There isn't one single study. Only a RCT can prove causality.

CancerUK is the charity everyone seems to refer to for sun advice, even

the government (!) and who knows who CancerUK is funded by. I don't

think they have the same agenda for health that the citizens have.

And then there is the huge Tescos chain who even have the temerity to

advise people to slap on sunscreen BEFORE you go out into the sun!

Pretty soon they'll be hauling parents away for letting their children

stay too long on the beaches:-(((

I use a sunbed every few weeks and feel great after use.

ladybugsandbees schrieb:

>

>

> You have to get electronic ballasts and then it is fine. Mercola did

> an article on this. You only tan for a max of 5 mins 3x per week.

> It's not tanning to tan it is tanning to get UV rays. I felt so much

> better when I did this. My adrenals just wouldn't get moving until I

> did this. I didn't have to last year so I think I am doing better.

> But I did it the two years before.

>

> Steph

>

>

>

> * re: Vit D

>>

>>

>>

>> I've read on Mercola.com that in order for the Vit D to be

>> absorbed from sitting in the sun you would not have to bathe

>> for two days! He notes that it takes that long for it to be

>> absosrbed and encouraged people to only wash the necessary

>> body parts (e.g. underarm, genital etc). I'd rather take Vit

>> D than do this. I use the pure encapsulation liquid Vit D as

>> it is suppose to be more absorbable in this form (5 drops

>> daily is equal to 5000 IU).

>>

>> Laurie

>>

>>

>>

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My 25-Hydroxy result was 37.4 with a range of 32.0 - 100.0. Yes, there is a diseasegoing on, severe osteoporosis. Thank you,PamelaFrom: Dr. Loretta Lanphier <drlanphier@...>Subject: RE: re: Vit Diodine Date: Sunday, July 26, 2009, 9:23 PM

It really depends on how deficient one is. Living in Houston where the sun almost

always shines, we test first. If one

tests low then I will start them around 6,000 IUs (3 drops) per day for 3

months. Then we re-test and adjust

accordingly. If there is disease going on then it’s a

whole new ball game. More aggressive

treatment is indicated in aggressive diseases.

Dr. Cannell also recommends to eat a lot of spinach with vitamin D. To work properly,

Vitamin D needs magnesium, vitamin K, zinc and most likely boron.

Be Well

Dr.L

Hello

Dr. Lanphier,

How many drops of the Bio D-Mulsion Forte do you suggest your

patients to take daily?

Pamela

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Testing costs $$ I do not have. Doctors are a vice I cannot afford.

Alobar

On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 4:35 AM, ssandypond <Ssandypond@...> wrote:

> Alobar

>

> I have been having a nightmare with my weight for the last 8 years. Not only

did I find out I was not eating enough calories for my size, I had no VIT D

stores AT ALL. My doc put me on theraputic doses of Vit D and upped my calories

and I am now loosing about a pound a week. I would recomend a person get tested

for the thereaputic dose. I am on 50,000 IU 2 times a week plus 2000 IU daily. I

just had no idea that I had no stores. ALway knew I felt better when I went to

Mexico in the winter. Has been an interesting educational adventure. I will be

tested again next month. My triglicerides were high as well and she seems to

think this will help. Will check in after new blood work.

> Sally

>

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yes, I too am in that situation. But for me, it was probably something that in

the long run saved my life. It was a choice I had to make. Now I see it was a

wise one. Will take me several months to pay it off. Will see what changes. I

decided if I could afford cocnut oil and all the other stuff I take, then

perhaps I should make way to afford the test.

>

> Testing costs $$ I do not have. Doctors are a vice I cannot afford.

>

> Alobar

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Here is a place where you can be tested for $40. Now I realize that still

can be a lot of money depending

on individual circumstances. _http://www.grassrootshealth.net/d-action_

(http://www.grassrootshealth.net/d-action)

I have mine done at the Dr. office at $250 a pop but my insurance pays

it. However, since my level was at the very minimum at my last test and the

Doc thinks I am " just fine " , he will no longer do the test I'm going to

have to jump for the above. I have a couple health issues so I need to keep

and eye on it.

EJ

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Ssandypond@... writes:

yes, I too am in that situation. But for me, it was probably something

that in the long run saved my life. It was a choice I had to make. Now I see

it was a wise one. Will take me several months to pay it off. Will see what

changes. I decided if I could afford cocnut oil and all the other stuff I

take, then perhaps I should make way to afford the test.

>

> Testing costs $$ I do not have. Doctors are a vice I cannot afford.

>

> Alobar

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