Vit D

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the link. I just filled out their very long questionnaire

and will be sending them my $40 after I pay my rent and utilities.

Alobar

On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 1:55 PM, <ejohns9525@...> wrote:

>

> Here is a place where you can be tested for $40.  Now I realize that  still

> can be a lot of money depending

> on individual circumstances.  _http://www.grassrootshealth.net/d-action_

> (http://www.grassrootshealth.net/d-action)

>

> I have mine done at the Dr. office at $250  a pop but my insurance  pays

> it.  However, since my level was at the very minimum at my last test  and the

> Doc thinks I am " just fine " , he will no longer do the test I'm going to

> have to jump for the above.  I have a couple health issues so I need to  keep

> and eye on it.

>

> EJ

>

[Guest guest]

My younger son's level was " deficiency " (see below for his lab test) and Dr H

recommended 4000 IU per day for the time being.

His results: 41 nmol/L

Ranges: < 25 nmol/L severe deficiency

25-50 nmol/L deficiency

in the range 50-75 nmol/L supplementation may be considered

levels above 75 nmol/L are optimal

Hope that gives you some idea,

Miriam

>

> how much vit d do you take if you have low levels?

> .x

>

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

1000IU Tabs or Caps of vit D3 would get you started.

The caps are in an oil base and better absorbed, in theory.

The higher strength 5000IU Caps may be better if you need to get your vi D3 up

quickly ~ but reduce the frequency of use or revert back to 1000IU caps or tabs

when you think/know your vit D3 levels are somewhere in the right range.

Testing is best and would be better done routinely if you have either

osteoporosis or if you have recently broken any bones.

The very high strength (50,000IU) powder based Caps are a little more serious an

item to take over a long period (weekly or longer intervals between use and for

older people perhaps in care and getting no sunshine, to speak of) ~ much better

medically supervised.

Dawn can tell how long she took her's for, that caused overdose; and likewise,

also got too high ~ but a measured value ~ quite important if you do try

and make a difference.

best wishes

Bob

(chemically trained, not medically qualified)

>

> how much vit d do you take if you have low levels?

> .x

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks x

>

>

>

> Hi Lizzie,

>

>

> what is wrong with this guy ??? He's getting paid how much each year and he

can't even get it together and get your vitamin d sorted out. Unbelievable.

>

> Yes, get a good vitamin d and d.i.y.  I think I said on my last message to you

that I use the " Now Vitamin D3 5,000iu softgels " No nasty fillers and reasonably

priced. You may want to use a lower dose than that and build up slowly.

>

> julia

>

[Guest guest]

What IS the best vit D out there, and where to buy it please?

[Guest guest]

Alternative if you want lower doses is Vit Research Products (soft gels again)

which are in 1,000 iu capsules so you can take as much as you think is

appropriate - I 've been a bit concerned that Dr Lam's site seems to suggest

some problems with too much Vit D where most other sources say no problems. Any

views on this?

>

> Thanks x

>

> > Hi Lizzie,

> >

> >

> > what is wrong with this guy ??? He's getting paid how much each year and he

can't even get it together and get your vitamin d sorted out. Unbelievable.

> >

> > Yes, get a good vitamin d and d.i.y.  I think I said on my last message to

you that I use the " Now Vitamin D3 5,000iu softgels " No nasty fillers and

reasonably priced. You may want to use a lower dose than that and build up

slowly.

> >

> > julia

> >

>

[Guest guest]

The vit D3 I posted details of (By Vitamin research products)is the same one

that Myhill supplies. It is Vit D3 (cholecalciferol) 100iu. Other

ingredients mentioned (presumably the gel capsule) are microcrystalline

sellulose, hydrocypropylmethylcellulose (vegetarian capsule) and magnesium

stearate. Sorry - don't know enough about these to judge personally. However, as

Dr Myhill is pretty well known for her advice to those with CFS amongst other

health problems I would imagine she has taken some care in selecting

intelligently(!)As for " the best " form of Vit D...it is probably sunlight (let's

hope we get a bit more of it(!)

Vicky

>

> What IS the best vit D out there, and where to buy it please?

>

[Guest guest]

You should speak to your health Food Shop manager - she will be

able to help you with this. Also, speak to her about the addition of Calcium

too. Have you read all the information in the VITAMIN D 'FOLDER' in the FILES

section of this forum web site?

Do be careful that you are not taking a vitamin D supplement

that has lots of other supplements in it if you are already taking those supplements

in some other form. It is so easy to suddenly find you are taking too much.

Luv - Sheila

What IS the best vit D out there, and where to buy it please?

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[Guest guest]

Sorry - post should have read 1000 iu (typo)

> >

> > What IS the best vit D out there, and where to buy it please?

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I was found to have very low vitamin D levels a couple of years ago. As I

am ultra-sensitive to medication it was felt that injections would be too

much for my system to cope with, so my GP prescribed some tablets. I kept

on these for nearly a year but my vit D levels didn't improve at all -

clearly a problem with absorption. However, I then tried a liquid

supplement from BioCare that is meant to be good for those with

malabsorption - and my vit D levels are gradually improving. To look it up,

see - http://www.biocare.co.uk/default.aspx?GroupGuid=29 & ProductGuid=75115

BW.

Hazel.

www.oneagleswings.me.uk

http://oneagleswingsme.blogspot.com/

Vit D

>I have just had my lab results back re Vit D (after taking weeks to

>persuade my Dr to do the test!) The results are that I have Vitamin D

>depletion. Does anyone have any asuggestions about a good supplement?

> Thanks

> Han

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[Guest guest]

Thanks for the info Hazel

Han

>

> I was found to have very low vitamin D levels a couple of years ago. As I

> am ultra-sensitive to medication it was felt that injections would be too

> much for my system

>

[Guest guest]

On Tue, 02 Nov 2010 11:05:04 -0000, you wrote:

>I have just had my lab results back re Vit D (after taking weeks to persuade my

Dr to do the test!) The results are that I have Vitamin D depletion. Does anyone

have any asuggestions about a good supplement?

The best value for money I have found is from Puritans Pride.

http://www.puritan.com/d-vitamins-534/sunvitetrade;-maximum-strength-vitamin-d-d\

-3-5000-iu-019377?NewPage=1

I take 2 of those softgells a day in the winter giving me 10,000 IU.

They ship to the UK without problems

Nick

[Guest guest]

Go to our FILES section which is accessible from the Home Page

of this forum web site. Scroll right down through all the folders there to the

one entitled 'Vitamin D' and read the information there Han.

Luv - Sheila

I have just had my lab results back re Vit D

(after taking weeks to persuade my Dr to do the test!) The results are that I

have Vitamin D depletion. Does anyone have any asuggestions about a good

supplement?

Thanks

Han

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[Guest guest]

From what I have read, 50,000 IU/day should not be used more than a

week or two, but 25,000 Iu is safe to use daily.

In the flu season, I take ~24,000 IU/day of D3. In Spring and summer,

I take ~12,000 IU/day.

Alobar

On Sat, Dec 4, 2010 at 4:11 PM, Frahm <lisajaust@...> wrote:

> Hi Group! Ive'recently had my vit D checked and I'm low.  They have sugested

> they I take a huge dose that can last 3 months.  This is obiviously an easy

> option for me and I'm not getting what I should from my normal lifestyle (in

any

> case i need to get my levels up permantly - and I just want to know if this is

a

> safe enough way of doing it rather than just leaving the levels low).  Can you

> take too much vit d in one dos? Does your body store it for an extended period

> of time? I've checked and its Vit D3 not D2 so that parts good.

>

>

> so tell me what you think,  cheers

>

>

[Guest guest]

Albor, Are you saying I need to take vitD daily, rather than what the doctor

priscribed, which is one dose every three months etc?

________________________________

From: Alobar <Alobar@...>

Coconut Oil

Sent: Sun, 5 December, 2010 10:25:23 AM

Subject: Re: vit D

 

From what I have read, 50,000 IU/day should not be used more than a

week or two, but 25,000 Iu is safe to use daily.

In the flu season, I take ~24,000 IU/day of D3. In Spring and summer,

I take ~12,000 IU/day.

Alobar

On Sat, Dec 4, 2010 at 4:11 PM, Frahm <lisajaust@...> wrote:

> Hi Group! Ive'recently had my vit D checked and I'm low.  They have sugested

> they I take a huge dose that can last 3 months.  This is obiviously an easy

> option for me and I'm not getting what I should from my normal lifestyle (in

>any

> case i need to get my levels up permantly - and I just want to know if this is

>a

> safe enough way of doing it rather than just leaving the levels low).  Can

you

> take too much vit d in one dos? Does your body store it for an extended period

> of time? I've checked and its Vit D3 not D2 so that parts good.

>

>

> so tell me what you think,  cheers

>

>

[Guest guest]

>

> Hi Group! Ive'recently had my vit D checked and I'm low.  They have sugested

> they I take a huge dose that can last 3 months.  This is obiviously an easy

> option for me and I'm not getting what I should from my normal lifestyle (in

any

> case i need to get my levels up permantly - and I just want to know if this is

a

> safe enough way of doing it rather than just leaving the levels low).  Can you

> take too much vit d in one dos? Does your body store it for an extended period

> of time? I've checked and its Vit D3 not D2 so that parts good. 

>

>

> so tell me what you think,  cheers

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

While the jury is out on vitamin d mega dose safety, I 'm puzzled as to why

on earth one would take a chance / health risk for no obvious benefit other

than perhaps the convenience of stored vitamin d or buying strongly into the

" more is better " belief.

It is delivered through a supplement and not sunshine and not food.

Your body would have to be like a medium well done steak under the sun

after days of continuous exposure or like having consumed a whole case of

wild salmon for dinner to receive such amounts of vit. d. There are

mechanisms in our intelligent body that will not let us o.d. that way.

However with supplementation my suggestion would be to muscle test

the quantity considered, until you arrive at the safe level for *you*. To

self test you can use dowsing or pendulum testing. Just make sure of the

accuracy by becoming familiar with it (through practicing ).

Blessings

Nick

On Sat, Dec 4, 2010 at 6:55 PM, Alobar <Alobar@...> wrote:

>

>

> From what I have read, 50,000 IU/day should not be used more than a

> week or two, but 25,000 Iu is safe to use daily.

>

> In the flu season, I take ~24,000 IU/day of D3. In Spring and summer,

> I take ~12,000 IU/day.

>

> Alobar

>

>

> On Sat, Dec 4, 2010 at 4:11 PM, Frahm

<lisajaust@...<lisajaust%40.au>>

> wrote:

> > Hi Group! Ive'recently had my vit D checked and I'm low. They have

> sugested

> > they I take a huge dose that can last 3 months. This is obiviously an

> easy

> > option for me and I'm not getting what I should from my normal lifestyle

> (in any

> > case i need to get my levels up permantly - and I just want to know if

> this is a

> > safe enough way of doing it rather than just leaving the levels low).

> Can you

> > take too much vit d in one dos? Does your body store it for an extended

> period

> > of time? I've checked and its Vit D3 not D2 so that parts good.

> >

> >

> > so tell me what you think, cheers

> >

> >

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

To Nick: I am not really understanding what you are saying. Are you trying to

downplay the importance of getting sunlight for natural conversion of the

precursor molecule in the skin to vit. D. Or the essence of eating foods rich in

vit. D to build up one's store over time?

You have the wrong concept you do not need to " bake in the sun " - sunshine is

ours to enjoy.The morning and afternoon hours are the best. Not only will it

aid in vit d production, but the sunlight also has therapeutic effect and will

aid with depression and any possible skin fungal disease, and we all know that

mild dice is treated effectively via regular exposure to sunlight.

-

[Guest guest]

To the contrary, I merely used the reference to sunlight and eating foods

rich in vitamin D - both natural sources- to illustrate the vast amount of

exposure or consumption needed to reach the high levels of vitamin D

supplementation mentioned in Alobar's and your postings.

I am in complete agreement with your views on proper exposure to sunlight,

consuming foods rich in vitamin D and all the great health benefits.

Blessings, Nick

On Sat, Dec 4, 2010 at 10:24 PM, Nawa <nadiawa@...> wrote:

>

>

> To Nick: I am not really understanding what you are saying. Are you trying

> to downplay the importance of getting sunlight for natural conversion of the

> precursor molecule in the skin to vit. D. Or the essence of eating foods

> rich in vit. D to build up one's store over time?

> You have the wrong concept you do not need to " bake in the sun " - sunshine

> is ours to enjoy.The morning and afternoon hours are the best. Not only will

> it aid in vit d production, but the sunlight also has therapeutic effect and

> will aid with depression and any possible skin fungal disease, and we all

> know that mild dice is treated effectively via regular exposure to

> sunlight.

>

> -

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Oops! my apologies. It was 's posting and not yours.

Nick

On Sat, Dec 4, 2010 at 10:24 PM, Nawa <nadiawa@...> wrote:

>

>

> To Nick: I am not really understanding what you are saying. Are you trying

> to downplay the importance of getting sunlight for natural conversion of the

> precursor molecule in the skin to vit. D. Or the essence of eating foods

> rich in vit. D to build up one's store over time?

> You have the wrong concept you do not need to " bake in the sun " - sunshine

> is ours to enjoy.The morning and afternoon hours are the best. Not only will

> it aid in vit d production, but the sunlight also has therapeutic effect and

> will aid with depression and any possible skin fungal disease, and we all

> know that mild dice is treated effectively via regular exposure to

> sunlight.

>

> -

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks Nawa and Nick,  really helpful stuff!! I was surpised that my levels

were

so low, I live is south australia so there is plenty of sunshine.  I guess 

family, kids, work side track us from balance and keeping up our stores of Vit D

( I don't exercise enough either).  But I am enjoying slowing being proactive,

getting things checked etc. I don't understand the muscle test you were talking

aout nick in regards to vit d but at least I know a blood test is available.  I

should get my 6yr old daughter checked  as well.

Your Kindnesss and feed back is appreicated.  I'm sooo underqualified. ( but

I'm

interest!!).  xo

________________________________

From: Nawa <nadiawa@...>

Coconut Oil

Sent: Sun, 5 December, 2010 1:10:06 PM

Subject: Re: vit D

 

>

> Hi Group! Ive'recently had my vit D checked and I'm low.  They have sugested

> they I take a huge dose that can last 3 months.  This is obiviously an easy

> option for me and I'm not getting what I should from my normal lifestyle (in

>any

>

> case i need to get my levels up permantly - and I just want to know if this is

>a

>

> safe enough way of doing it rather than just leaving the levels low).  Can

you

> take too much vit d in one dos? Does your body store it for an extended period

> of time? I've checked and its Vit D3 not D2 so that parts good. 

>

>

> so tell me what you think,  cheers

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I can't say what you *should* do. I can only recount my own

experience with my research.

Most doctors want us to take far less vitamins than are good for us.

After all, it we were all healthy, they would lose a lot of money.

I recommend spending a day or two reading thru the Vitamin D Council

website and deciding what you should do.

http://www.vitamindcouncil.org/

Alobar

On Sat, Dec 4, 2010 at 8:36 PM, Frahm <lisajaust@...> wrote:

> Albor, Are you saying I need to take vitD daily, rather than what the doctor

> priscribed, which is one dose every three months etc?

>

>

[Guest guest]

I think the ratio is 1000 IU per 25 pounds of body weight. If you are 150

pounds, then 6000 IU per day is about right.

Carol

>

> Hi Group! Ive'recently had my vit D checked and I'm low.  They have sugested

they I take a huge dose that can last 3 months. 

[Guest guest]

The experiment that started the Vit D warnings occurred in the '30's

when they gave inmates in an insane asylum 120,000 iu for an extended

period (one month?), they all got sick, but when they stopped the

experiment, they all got better. So how much is too much? My wife

took 50,000 iu twice in one day when she was coming down with flu. She

got better immediately and had no other effects. I took 50,000 just in

case. I have never taken more than that in one day, but I would not be

concerned about doing that for one day.

On 12/4/2010 5:11 PM, Frahm wrote:

>

> Hi Group! Ive'recently had my vit D checked and I'm low. They have

> sugested

> they I take a huge dose that can last 3 months. This is obiviously an

> easy

> option for me and I'm not getting what I should from my normal

> lifestyle (in any

> case i need to get my levels up permantly - and I just want to know if

> this is a

> safe enough way of doing it rather than just leaving the levels low).

> Can you

> take too much vit d in one dos? Does your body store it for an

> extended period

> of time? I've checked and its Vit D3 not D2 so that parts good.

>

> so tell me what you think, cheers

>

>

[Guest guest]

PubMed offers interesting information about dosing of Vitamin D. Here is a link

to a 2009 study that is interesting as they used a 500,000 IU loading dose on

frail elderly folk!

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19101755

But do study the Vitamin D Council website for more thorough information.

>

> Hi Group! Ive'recently had my vit D checked and I'm low.  They have sugested

> they I take a huge dose that can last 3 months.  This is obiviously an easy

> option for me and I'm not getting what I should from my normal lifestyle (in

any

> case i need to get my levels up permantly - and I just want to know if this is

a

> safe enough way of doing it rather than just leaving the levels low).  Can you

> take too much vit d in one dos? Does your body store it for an extended period

> of time? I've checked and its Vit D3 not D2 so that parts good. 

>

>

> so tell me what you think,  cheers

>

>

>

>

>