Iodine

[Guest guest]

Sheila, I am well aware that the UK does not have bromide in their bread, I am

also aware that NZ and AU have recently removed it from their bread in the last

2 years. They did this because of the many health problems in their countries.

They removed it because of iodine deficient diseases. People in the US who are

aware of bromide issues can easily find bread without it.

People not being able to tolerate Iodine is due to detox issues which are

resolved by salt loading and proper supplementation intake which is necessary to

the iodine protocol. Iodine allergy is extremely rare, if you have an allergy to

iodine, you're dead. The body cannot live without iodine and salt. And the body

does not produce either one on its own.

People who are allergic to shellfish are told that they have an iodine allergy.

There is no truth to this whatsoever. They have a allergy to the muscle protein

in the fish, but not to iodine. This is just another in the list of *un-truths*

given by medical advisors who don't know any better. And the mis-information

goes on and on.

As with any protocol, one must follow the basic rules, experiment with their own

body and find what works for them. Lack of iodine is in world wide epidemic

proportions now. Iodine adds to a healthy body along with weight management,

clear thinking, energy, clear/supple skin and brain function, to name a few. I

also believe that lack of iodine is the cause for so much RT3 pooling and

absorption issues. That used to be quite rare, but it isn't any longer.

Cheers,

JOT

> There are many people unable to tolerate iodine and who should not be taking

> it. Iodine is not indicated for everybody suffering the symptoms of

> hypothyroidism. Everybody should get thoroughly tested to see if they are

> low in iodine before even considering adding it to their treatment regime.

[Guest guest]

Iodine comes in two forms:

Lugol's drops:

http://www.amazon.com/J-Crows-Lugols-Iodine-2%25-Liquid/dp/B001AEFM9Y/ref=sr_1_1\

?s=hpc & ie=UTF8 & qid=1295899003 & sr=1-1

or Iodoral Tablets:

http://www.amazon.com/OPTIMOX-Iodoral-180-tabs/dp/B000X843VG/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8 & \

qid=1295899234 & sr=8-1

You can read the reviews at both these sights for more info. I don't know where

you find these in the UK. I'd call your chemist and ask if they sell it or a

health food store, or check for them online.

It's always in our best interests to have a support group to answer questions so

I would suggest you join the Iodine group for more info on dosing and

instructions.

iodine/

There are some people who take half a tablet to start and build up and there are

some who are on 150 mgs a day. Most people start slow and move up accordingly. I

take 50 mgs a day and I stay there, but iodine will help tremendously even at

12.5 mgs a day.

Cheers,

JOT

> Hi can anyone tell me where you buy and how much iodine I would take regards

June

[Guest guest]

8 ml is quite a lot. I was wondering if it would do any good to just paint a

quarter sized spot on the inner wrist of Lugols and renew as it is absorbed. You

could practically take a bath in 8 ml.

Ann.

On Fri Mar 18th, 2011 7:45 PM MDT Kirk McLoren wrote:

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>You can use topical iodine.And you can still get this.

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>According to research by Health Physicist Ken , Hershey Medical Center, a

>person can get a blocking dose of iodine by painting 8 ml of either tincture of

>iodine or providone iodine (betadine) scrub on the forearm daily.

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> Kirk, PhD, CHP

>Pennsylvania Bureau of Radiation Protection

>http://www.hps.org/publicinformation/ate/q350.html

[Guest guest]

8 ml is quite a lot. I was wondering if it would do any good to just paint a

quarter sized spot on the inner wrist of Lugols and renew as it is absorbed. You

could practically take a bath in 8 ml.

Ann.

On Fri Mar 18th, 2011 7:45 PM MDT Kirk McLoren wrote:

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> iodine

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>You can use topical iodine.And you can still get this.

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>According to research by Health Physicist Ken , Hershey Medical Center, a

>person can get a blocking dose of iodine by painting 8 ml of either tincture of

>iodine or providone iodine (betadine) scrub on the forearm daily.

>

>

> Kirk, PhD, CHP

>Pennsylvania Bureau of Radiation Protection

>http://www.hps.org/publicinformation/ate/q350.html

[Guest guest]

the other day I made an interesting connection. While at the peditrician with my grandson I noticed a sign that said they were looking for candidates for a study using xylitol as a preventivtive against ear infections. I find it very interesting because about a year ago I switched to a nasal rinse solution that contains xylitol and I have not had a sinus infection since. FI still have issues with polyps but not taking antibiotics for a year and a half is a small miricle. I have no idea why xylitol would work this way but It my be a tool in "keeping our noses clean!"

michelle

From: samters [mailto:samters ] On Behalf Of EkrenSent: Sunday, April 17, 2011 3:05 PMsamters Subject: Iodine

The other day I came across this article and it makes sense to me.

"Iodine is by far the best antibiotic, antiviral, and antiseptic of all time. Iodine Therapy is effective in killing Candida, other fungi and microbes. Iodine and microbes have an affinity for the mucus membranes. Iodine clears out excess mucus. By keeping the mucus membranes healthy, iodine greatly helps to overcome autoimmune diseases, sinus problems, asthma, lung cancer, and other lung problems, and also intestinal diseases, including inflammatory conditions and cancers."

[Guest guest]

I just did a quick Internet search on xylitol and it appears that it definitely has merit. It's amazing how some of the most effective treatments can be the cheapest and simplest.

Ekren

Ear and upper respiratory infections

Studies have shown xylitol chewing gum can help prevent ear infections[27] (acute otitis media); the act of chewing and swallowing assists with the disposal of earwax and clearing the middle ear, while the presence of xylitol prevents the growth of bacteria in the eustachian tubes (auditory or pharyngotympanic tubes) which connect the nose and ear.[28] When bacteria enter the body, they adhere to the tissues using a variety of sugar complexes. The open nature of xylitol and its ability to form many different sugar-like structures appears to interfere with the ability of many bacteria to adhere.[29] In a double-blind, randomized, controlled trial, saline solutions of xylitol significantly reduced the number of nasal coagulase-negative Staphylococcus bacteria. The researchers attributed the benefits to the increased effectiveness of endogenous (naturally present in the body) antimicrobial factors.[30]

Infection

In rats, xylitol has been found to increase the activity of neutrophils, the white blood cells involved in fighting many bacteria. This effect seems to be quite broad, acting even in cases such as general sepsis.[31]

Candida yeast

A recent report suggests consumption of xylitol may help control oral infections of Candida yeast; in contrast, galactose, glucose, and sucrose may increase proliferation.[32]

-----Original Message-----From: samters [mailto:samters ]On Behalf Of Drew & Sent: Monday, April 18, 2011 6:39 AMsamters Subject: RE: Iodine

the other day I made an interesting connection. While at the peditrician with my grandson I noticed a sign that said they were looking for candidates for a study using xylitol as a preventivtive against ear infections. I find it very interesting because about a year ago I switched to a nasal rinse solution that contains xylitol and I have not had a sinus infection since. FI still have issues with polyps but not taking antibiotics for a year and a half is a small miricle. I have no idea why xylitol would work this way but It my be a tool in "keeping our noses clean!"

michelle

From: samters [mailto:samters ] On Behalf Of EkrenSent: Sunday, April 17, 2011 3:05 PMsamters Subject: Iodine

The other day I came across this article and it makes sense to me.

"Iodine is by far the best antibiotic, antiviral, and antiseptic of all time. Iodine Therapy is effective in killing Candida, other fungi and microbes. Iodine and microbes have an affinity for the mucus membranes. Iodine clears out excess mucus. By keeping the mucus membranes healthy, iodine greatly helps to overcome autoimmune diseases, sinus problems, asthma, lung cancer, and other lung problems, and also intestinal diseases, including inflammatory conditions and cancers."

[Guest guest]

i think it has something to do with bacteria sticking to the sugar molecules. or

the sugar molecules making the surfaces too slippery for bacteria to stick to..

dr. jonathan wright has done some work on this (natural remedy guy).. don't know

if he's a quack or not but i was just reading some of his work yesterday.

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> the other day I made an interesting connection. While at the peditrician

> with my grandson I noticed a sign that said they were looking for candidates

> for a study using xylitol as a preventivtive against ear infections. I find

> it very interesting because about a year ago I switched to a nasal rinse

> solution that contains xylitol and I have not had a sinus infection since.

> FI still have issues with polyps but not taking antibiotics for a year and a

> half is a small miricle. I have no idea why xylitol would work this way but

> It my be a tool in " keeping our noses clean! "

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> michelle

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> From: samters [mailto:samters ] On Behalf Of

> Ekren

> Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2011 3:05 PM

> samters

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> The other day I came across this article and it makes sense to me.

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> " Iodine is by far the best antibiotic, antiviral, and antiseptic of all

> time. Iodine Therapy is effective in killing Candida, other fungi and

> microbes. Iodine and microbes have an affinity for the mucus membranes.

> Iodine clears out excess mucus. By keeping the mucus membranes healthy,

> iodine greatly helps to overcome autoimmune diseases, sinus problems,

> asthma, lung cancer, and other lung problems, and also intestinal diseases,

> including inflammatory conditions and cancers. "

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[Guest guest]

My doctor told me to add a teaspoon or two of iodine to my nasal wash. Melinda 29: 11 "For I know the plans I have for you", says the Lord. "They are plans for good and not for disaster, to give you a future and a hope. "From: Ekren <ekren@...>samters Sent: Sun, April 17, 2011 12:04:49 PMSubject: Iodine

The other day I came across this article and it makes sense to me.

"Iodine is by far the best antibiotic, antiviral, and antiseptic of all time. Iodine Therapy is effective in killing Candida, other fungi and microbes. Iodine and microbes have an affinity for the mucus membranes. Iodine clears out excess mucus. By keeping the mucus membranes healthy, iodine greatly helps to overcome autoimmune diseases, sinus problems, asthma, lung cancer, and other lung problems, and also intestinal diseases, including inflammatory conditions and cancers."

[Guest guest]

For the record, iodine certainly is a disinfectant but does have some side effects like all disinfectants.(From Wiki)Precautions and toxicity of elemental iodineElemental iodine is an oxidizing irritant and direct contact with skin can cause lesions, so iodine crystals should be handled with care. Solutions with high elemental iodine concentration such as tincture of iodine and Lugol's solution are capable of causing tissue damage if use for cleaning and antisepsis is prolonged.Elemental iodine (I2) is poisonous if taken orally in larger amounts; 2–3 grams of it is a lethal dose for an adult human.Iodine vapor is very irritating to the eye, to mucous membranes, and in the respiratory tract. Concentration of iodine in the air should not exceed 1 mg/m³ (eight-hour time-weighted average).When mixed with ammonia and water, elemental iodine forms nitrogen triiodide, which is extremely shock-sensitive and can explode unexpectedly.[edit]Toxicity of iodide ionExcess iodine has symptoms similar to those of iodine deficiency. Commonly encountered symptoms are abnormal growth of the thyroid gland and disorders in functioning and growth of the organism as a whole. Iodides are similar in toxicity to bromides.[citation needed]Excess iodine can be more cytotoxic in the presence of selenium deficiency.[51] Iodine supplementation in selenium-deficient populations is, in theory, problematic, partly for this reason.[31][edit]Iodine sensitivitySome people develop a sensitivity to iodine. Application of tincture of iodine can cause a rash. Some cases of reaction to Povidone-iodine (Betadine) have been documented to be a chemical burn.[52] Eating iodine-containing foods can cause hives. Medical use of iodine (i.e. as a contrast agent, see above) can causeanaphylactic shock in highly iodine-sensitive patients. Some cases of sensitivity to iodine can be formally classified as iodine allergies. Iodine sensitivity is rare but has a considerable effect given the extremely widespread use of iodine-based contrast media.[53]>> My doctor told me to add a teaspoon or two of iodine to my nasal wash.> > Melinda > 29: 11 "For I know the plans I have for you", says the Lord. "They > are plans for good and not for disaster, to give you a future and a hope. "> > > > > ________________________________> From: Ekren ekren@...> samters > Sent: Sun, April 17, 2011 12:04:49 PM> Subject: Iodine> > > > The other day I came across this article and it makes sense to me.> > > >"Iodine is by far the best antibiotic, antiviral, and antiseptic of all time. > >Iodine Therapy is effective in killing Candida, other fungi and microbes. > >Iodine and microbes have an affinity for the mucus membranes. Iodine clears > >out excess mucus. By keeping the mucus membranes healthy, iodine greatly > >helps to overcome autoimmune diseases, sinus problems, asthma, lung cancer, > >and other lung problems, and also intestinal diseases, including inflammatory > >conditions and cancers."> > > > > >>

[Guest guest]

Thanks. Excellent addition for the record.

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> The other day I came across this article and it makes sense to me.

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> >"Iodine is by far the best antibiotic, antiviral, and antiseptic of all time.

> >Iodine Therapy is effective in killing Candida, other fungi and microbes.

> >Iodine and microbes have an affinity for the mucus membranes. Iodine clears

> >out excess mucus. By keeping the mucus membranes healthy, iodine greatly

> >helps to overcome autoimmune diseases, sinus problems, asthma, lung cancer,

> >and other lung problems, and also intestinal diseases, including inflammatory

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[Guest guest]



In January I started taking an IODORAL 12.5 mg. per day and I've noticed that for the last two week my sinuses are draining freely and I haven't had to use Flonase nasal spray. If this is related to taking IODORAL it appears that it takes some time for the pill form to have an effect on the sinuses and your method of adding iodine to the nasal wash may be more effective in getting into the sinuses. Also since the nuclear problem in Japan many of the Internet sources for buying IODORAL are "sold out".

Iodine

The other day I came across this article and it makes sense to me.

"Iodine is by far the best antibiotic, antiviral, and antiseptic of all time. Iodine Therapy is effective in killing Candida, other fungi and microbes. Iodine and microbes have an affinity for the mucus membranes. Iodine clears out excess mucus. By keeping the mucus membranes healthy, iodine greatly helps to overcome autoimmune diseases, sinus problems, asthma, lung cancer, and other lung problems, and also intestinal diseases, including inflammatory conditions and cancers."

[Guest guest]

Thanks for mentioning the Precautions with iodine.

The study that I read about six years (before refusing iodine contrast dye) stated that potentially 16% of the population may experience some degree of negative reaction to iodine, ranging from slight skin rash to kidney failure. So delivery method, dosage and other health issues need to be considered. That's why it's extremely important to consult with your doctor before and during the taking of any supplement even if it can be bought on-line or from the vitamin store.

Iodine> > > > The other day I came across this article and it makes sense to me.> > > >"Iodine is by far the best antibiotic, antiviral, and antiseptic of all time. > >Iodine Therapy is effective in killing Candida, other fungi and microbes. > >Iodine and microbes have an affinity for the mucus membranes. Iodine clears > >out excess mucus. By keeping the mucus membranes healthy, iodine greatly > >helps to overcome autoimmune diseases, sinus problems, asthma, lung cancer, > >and other lung problems, and also intestinal diseases, including inflammatory > >conditions and cancers."> > > > > >>

[Guest guest]

Adding a teaspoon or two of iodine? Must be Povidone Iodine 10%, a

commercially available product, also marketed as Betadine.

on 4/19/2011 6:32 AM, Melinda Casida wrote:

 

My doctor told me to add a teaspoon or two of iodine

to my nasal wash.

 

Melinda  

 

29: 11   "For I know the

plans I have for you", says the Lord.  "They are plans

for good and not for disaster, to give you a future

and a hope. "

From:

Ekren <ekren@...>

To:

samters

Sent:

Sun, April 17, 2011 12:04:49 PM

Subject:

Iodine

 

 

The other

day I came across this article and it makes

sense to me.

 

"Iodine is by far the

best antibiotic, antiviral, and antiseptic

of all time. Iodine Therapy is effective

in killing Candida, other fungi and

microbes. Iodine and microbes have an

affinity for the mucus membranes. Iodine

clears out excess mucus. By keeping the

mucus membranes healthy, iodine greatly

helps to overcome autoimmune diseases,

sinus problems, asthma, lung cancer, and

other lung problems, and also intestinal

diseases, including inflammatory

conditions and cancers."

 

 

[Guest guest]

yes! Melinda 29: 11 "For I know the plans I have for you", says the Lord. "They are plans for good and not for disaster, to give you a future and a hope. "From: Carl Ondry <ondry@...>samters Cc: Melinda Casida <mcasida57@...>Sent: Tue, April 19, 2011 12:27:39 PMSubject: Re: Iodine

Adding a teaspoon or two of iodine? Must be Povidone Iodine 10%, a

commercially available product, also marketed as Betadine.

on 4/19/2011 6:32 AM, Melinda Casida wrote:

My doctor told me to add a teaspoon or two of iodine

to my nasal wash.

Melinda

29: 11 "For I know the

plans I have for you", says the Lord. "They are plans

for good and not for disaster, to give you a future

and a hope. "

From:

Ekren <ekren@...>

To:

samters

Sent:

Sun, April 17, 2011 12:04:49 PM

Subject:

Iodine

The other

day I came across this article and it makes

sense to me.

"Iodine is by far the

best antibiotic, antiviral, and antiseptic

of all time. Iodine Therapy is effective

in killing Candida, other fungi and

microbes. Iodine and microbes have an

affinity for the mucus membranes. Iodine

clears out excess mucus. By keeping the

mucus membranes healthy, iodine greatly

helps to overcome autoimmune diseases,

sinus problems, asthma, lung cancer, and

other lung problems, and also intestinal

diseases, including inflammatory

conditions and cancers."

[Guest guest]

What does Betadine do to the nasal tissue if put in the rinse? Is it safe and if so, how much do you put in your nasal rinse to effect the biofilms?JaneFrom: asfy <asfyso@...>Subject: Iodinesamters Date: Tuesday, April 19, 2011, 3:13 PM

This being said, povidone-iodine (betadine) disrupts biofilms.-----J Antimicrob Chemother. 2010 Jun;65(6):1195-206. Epub 2010 Apr 8.An in vitro model of chronic wound biofilms to test wound dressings and assess antimicrobial susceptibilities.Hill KE, Malic S, McKee R, Rennison T, Harding KG, DW, DW.Wound Biology Group, Tissue Engineering and Reparative Dentistry, Cardiff University School of Dentistry, Heath Park, Cardiff CF14 4XY, UK. hillke1@...AbstractOBJECTIVES: The targeted disruption of biofilms in chronic wounds is an important treatment strategy and the subject of intense research. In the present study, an in vitro model of chronic wound biofilms was developed to assess the efficacy of antimicrobial treatments for use in the wound environment.METHODS: Using chronic wound isolates, assays of bacterial coaggregation established that aerobic and anaerobic wound bacteria were able to coaggregate and form biofilms. A constant depth film fermenter (CDFF) was used to develop wound biofilms in vitro, which were analysed using light microscopy and scanning electron microscopy. The susceptibility of bacteria within these biofilms was examined in response to the most frequently prescribed 'chronic wound' antibiotics and a series of iodine- and silver-containing commercial antimicrobial products and lactoferrin.RESULTS: Defined biofilms were rapidly established within 1-2 days. Antibiotic treatment demonstrated that mixed Pseudomonas and Staphylococcus biofilms were not affected by

ciprofloxacin (5 mg/L) or flucloxacillin (15 mg/L), even at concentrations equivalent to twice the observed peak serum levels. The results contrasted with the ability of povidone-iodine (1%) to disrupt the wound biofilm; an effect that was particularly pronounced in the dressing testing where iodine-based dressings completely disrupted established 7 day biofilms. In contrast, only two of six silver-containing dressings exhibited any effect on 3 day biofilms, with no effect on 7 day biofilms.CONCLUSIONS: This wound model emphasizes the potential role of the biofilm phenotype in the observed resistance to antibiotic therapies that may occur in chronic wounds in vivo.

[Guest guest]

Jane,First, povidone-iodine is locally irritating, like a number of antiseptics. According to the following abstract, significant edema appears beginning at 1,5% concentration.Second, it can severely hurt the kidneys and the liver if used repeatedly, to the point of renal failure. This means that, at any rate, an irrigation should not be repeated and that any irrigation solution should not be swallowed.Third, it could modify normal thyroid function.------------Cutan Ocul Toxicol. 2009;28(3):119-24.The toxic effect of different concentrations of povidone iodine on the rabbit's cornea.Jiang J, Wu M, Shen T.Department of Ophthalmology, Zhejiang Provincial People's Hospital, Hangzhou, China.AbstractOBJECTIVES: To investigate the effects of polyvinylpyrrolidone (i.e., povidone) iodine (PVP-I) in different concentrations on the rabbit's cornea.METHODS: PVP-I in various concentrations was instilled into the conjunctival sac and injected into the anterior chamber independently. The toxicity to the cornea was assessed by fluorescence dye, specular microscopy, and corneal pachymetry.RESULTS: After conjunctival sac PVP-I instillation, severe epithelial damage was observed at the concentrations of 5.0% and 2.5%. After anterior chamber PVP-I injection, significant corneal edema was observed at the concentrations of 2.0% and 1.5%.CONCLUSIONS: It can be safe and feasible to use 0.5% or 1.0% concentrations of PVP-I in conjunctival sac instillation for preoperative antisepsis.Am J Kidney Dis. 2003 Mar;41(3):702-8.Iodine toxicity treated with hemodialysis and continuous venovenous hemodiafiltration.Kanakiriya S, De Chazal I, Nath KA, Haugen EN, Albright RC, Juncos LA.Department of Medicine, Division of Nephrology, Mayo Clinic and Foundation, Rochester, MN 55905, USA.AbstractContinuous mediastinal irrigation with povidone-iodine is used commonly for treating severe postoperative mediastinitis. However, concurrent iodine toxicity has been reported, particularly in patients with renal dysfunction (likely because absorbed iodine is renally excreted). The authors were consulted on a 45-year-old patient with mediastinitis who had renal and hepatic dysfunction while being treated with mediastinal irrigation of povidone-iodine. The povidone-iodine irrigation was discontinued because he had toxic plasma iodine levels. Despite this, his condition worsened, and the iodine levels remained elevated. Thus, hemodialysis (HD) was initiated using high-flux membranes followed by continuous venovenous hemodiafiltration (CVVHDF; 2 L/h of hemofiltration and 2 L/h of HD). Plasma and effluent iodine levels were measured repeatedly to determine iodine clearance by these 2 modalities (HD, 120 mL/min; CVVHDF, 37 mL and 44 mL/min on days 1 and 2, respectively). Hepatic and renal functions improved with decreasing plasma iodine levels. Based on this experience and after reviewing the literature the authors conclude that: (1) iodine irrigation can increase blood iodine levels significantly, especially in the setting of renal failure, and lead to increased morbidity and mortality; (2) plasma iodine levels should be monitored in patients with renal insufficiency; and (3) HD and CVVHDF are effective at clearing iodine. The authors suggest that patients that are at high risk or already developing signs of iodine toxicity should have the iodine irrigation discontinued and may benefit from renal replacement therapy (RRT). Alternatively, concomitant RRT during iodine irrigation may be attempted to maintain the systemic iodine levels at nontoxic levels.m J Kidney Dis. 2002 Sep;40(3):655-7.Nephrotoxic acute renal failure in a renal transplant patient with recurrent lymphocele treated with povidone-iodine irrigation.Manfro RC, Comerlato L, Berdichevski RH, Ribeiro AR, Denicol NT, Berger M, Saitovitch D, Koff WJ, Gonçalves LF.Renal Transplant Unit, Division of Nephrology, Hospital de Clínicas de Porto Alegre, Universidade Federal do Rio Grande do Sul School of Medicine, Porto Alegre, RS, Brazil. rmanfro@...AbstractPovidone-iodine sclerosis has been suggested in the literature as a safe and effective treatment for post-renal transplant lymphoceles. No significant complications of this method have been described. We report on a kidney allograft recipient with recurrent lymphoceles treated with povidone-iodine instillations who developed acute renal failure secondary to iodine intoxication. Four days after the beginning of the povidone-iodine irrigations, metabolic acidosis was present, and renal function started to deteriorate. After a few days, despite the suspension of irrigations, the patient developed oliguria, and dialysis was needed. A renal biopsy was performed, and intense acute tubular necrosis was the only relevant finding. The lymphocele was corrected surgically, and the patient eventually recovered. As has been described in other settings, povidone-iodine instillation for the treatment of post-renal transplant lymphoceles may lead to iodine kidney toxicity and acute renal failure.> > From: asfy asfyso@...> Subject: Iodine> samters > Date: Tuesday, April 19, 2011, 3:13 PM> > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > This being said, povidone-iodine (betadine) disrupts biofilms.-----> J Antimicrob Chemother. 2010 Jun;65(6):1195-206. Epub 2010 Apr 8.An in vitro model of chronic wound biofilms to test wound dressings and assess antimicrobial susceptibilities.Hill KE, Malic S, McKee R, Rennison T, Harding KG, DW, DW.Wound Biology Group, Tissue Engineering and Reparative Dentistry, Cardiff University School of Dentistry, Heath Park, Cardiff CF14 4XY, UK. hillke1@...: The targeted disruption of biofilms in chronic wounds is an important treatment strategy and the subject of intense research. In the present study, an in vitro model of chronic wound biofilms was developed to assess the efficacy of antimicrobial treatments for use in the wound environment.METHODS: Using chronic wound isolates, assays of bacterial coaggregation established that aerobic and anaerobic wound bacteria were able to coaggregate and form biofilms. A constant depth film fermenter (CDFF) was used to develop wound> biofilms in vitro, which were analysed using light microscopy and scanning electron microscopy. The susceptibility of bacteria within these biofilms was examined in response to the most frequently prescribed 'chronic wound' antibiotics and a series of iodine- and silver-containing commercial antimicrobial products and lactoferrin.RESULTS: Defined biofilms were rapidly established within 1-2 days. Antibiotic treatment demonstrated that mixed Pseudomonas and Staphylococcus biofilms were not affected by ciprofloxacin (5 mg/L) or flucloxacillin (15 mg/L), even at concentrations equivalent to twice the observed peak serum levels. The results contrasted with the ability of povidone-iodine (1%) to disrupt the wound biofilm; an effect that was particularly pronounced in the dressing testing where iodine-based dressings completely disrupted established 7 day biofilms. In contrast, only two of six silver-containing dressings exhibited any effect on 3 day> biofilms, with no effect on 7 day biofilms.CONCLUSIONS: This wound model emphasizes the potential role of the biofilm phenotype in the observed resistance to antibiotic therapies that may occur in chronic wounds in vivo.>

[Guest guest]

I asked this on another group so I hope it is ok to ask it again here.

I was reading an article in the health food store about iodine and wondered if

there is a way to tell if we actually need to supplement with iodine.

I am hypo/hashimotos and I do not use much salt, but the salt I use does not

have any iodine in it. Do we get enough iodine from the foods we eat? And if

we supplement, how much do we need?

Is iodine good for those who are hypo or is it bad for those who are hypo. I am

really not sure.

Thanks, Susie

[Guest guest]

Sea salt has iodine in it, and a lot of other minerals too. The RDA for iodine

is 150mcg. A good quality high potency multivitamin pill each day will supply

that and the selenium that's needed too.

 

Here's some more info:

 

http://lpi.oregonstate.edu/infocenter/minerals/iodine/

 

Roni

From: secapps51 <moqui51@...>

hypothyroidism

Sent: Saturday, May 7, 2011 4:27 AM

Subject: Re: Iodine

I asked this on another group so I hope it is ok to ask it again here. 

I was reading an article in the health food store about iodine and wondered if

there is a way to tell if we actually need to supplement with iodine.

I am hypo/hashimotos and I do not use much salt, but the salt I use does not

have any iodine in it.  Do we get enough iodine from the foods we eat?  And if

we supplement, how much do we need?

Is iodine good for those who are hypo or is it bad for those who are hypo.  I am

really not sure.

Thanks, Susie

 

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[Guest guest]

The RDA of iodine is about 150 mcg/day and typically in the US we get

quite a bit more than that in our diets.

The tests such as the skin absorption test for iodine are completely

bogus; not only has it been abandoned by alternative practitioners who

normally are enthralled by such hoaxes but the skin absorption test has

been abandoned even by the " iodine docs " . However, they typically

recommend dosing with 50 to 100 mg [50,000 to 100,000 mcg] per day

compared to the 150 mcg you are shown to need. Sites that promote this

are populated by the ignorant, con artists and quacks.

Thyroid medication contains iodine. It is unlikely that you need more;

and you definitely don't need the levels recommended by such as the

iodine docs.

Luck,

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> I asked this on another group so I hope it is ok to ask it again here.

> I was reading an article in the health food store about iodine and

> wondered if there is a way to tell if we actually need to supplement

> with iodine.

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> I am hypo/hashimotos and I do not use much salt, but the salt I use

> does not have any iodine in it. Do we get enough iodine from the foods

> we eat? And if we supplement, how much do we need?

>

> Is iodine good for those who are hypo or is it bad for those who are

> hypo. I am really not sure.

>

> Thanks, Susie

[Guest guest]

For internal medicine I'd suggest you go to someone other than a

chiropractor.

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> <mailto:nmsjoy@...?Subject=%20Re%3A%20Iodine> radiant505

> <radiant505>

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> Sat May 7, 2011 9:36 pm (PDT)

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> There are many conflicting sources regarding iodine, especially

> specific to the Hashimoto's disease. My practitioner uses it herself,

> is not hashi's or hypo, and put me on it. I initially felt sick, she

> told me to drink salt water, and in about two weeks, I felt better

> than I had in years. If I had to do it over again, I would not have

> taken it. I stopped taking it in December 2010. Currently I'm going

> partly by instinct and partly by some research by Dr Kharazian. And

> I'm doing well enough and getting better.

> You can also refer to a book by Dr Kharazian. He has done years of

> research and currently treats very difficult cases in CA. You can also

> go to his website and request to be put on his newsletter. Dr K's

> protocol does not include recommending high doses of iodine for a

> hashi's patient. He believes that it adds fuel to the fire of the

> disease.

> I hope this helps and I wish you well.