Guest guest Posted April 30, 2005 Report Share Posted April 30, 2005 Dear a, In all fariness, there are those who claim that VCO did help to boost their metabolisms. But in my case, it didn't. My sister also GAINED weight when she added VCO to her diet. At this point, I am convinced like you. I believe that there are other factors that still need to be researched and addressed. In Sally Fallon's book, " Eat Fat. Lose Fat " , Sally claims that there is a Candida connection to the weight loss issue. This may be so. However, I have tried a number of " cures " to correct my Candida overgrowth condition, including Bruce Fife's Coconut Detox protocal. Aside from making me miserable for six days, I didn't notice any improvement from that either. I am curious, what negatives have you heard about synthroid? Thanks for your suggestion about dessicated thyroid tablets. Although I do eat organic, grass-fed beef and organic range-fed chicken eggs, I am very leary about taking any supplements that contain animal byproducts, due to the mad cow scare. I have read that the FDA testing practices and regulations for bovine spongiform encephalopathy (BSE), scrapie, Creutzfeldt- Disease (CJD) are sketchy, at best. So, the supplement brands would need to be from extremely reliable sources. Regarding VCO, there are a million other good reasons to continue using it, even though it hasn't help to correct my underactive thyroid. Chrisitna <kristinahall@...> wrote: > , > > I'm sorry the VCO hasn't worked well for you. I'm > sure adding the > extra calories to my diet hasn't helped, but I was > quite disappointed > my wieght gain continued unabated. The VCO has > helped my thyroid > symptoms quite a bit, but I remain unconvinced that > I don't need more > help. If I were you, I'd consider other types of > thyroid medication > first before trying synthroid...I've heard negative > reviews of that > particular type of medication. I am taking > dessicated thyroid > prescribed by a naturopathic doctor, and it's helped > quite a bit. I > do feel discouraged that my thyroid seems to need > more and more > medication over the years, which is why I tried VCO. > Thank you for > sharing your story. > > a > > > > > > > > > Does anyone have a weight loss story they > would > > > like to share? I > > > want > > > > to hear from real people who have not been > paid to > > > say it has helped > > > > them. I would like to hear the negative side > > > also. It sounds too > > > > good to be true. Thanks. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > > Do you ? > > Small Business - Try our new resources > site! > > http://smallbusiness./resources/ > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2005 Report Share Posted April 30, 2005 What are your calories, carbs, and fats averages for the day? A lot of people need to cut the carbs and up the fats while maintaining a specific calorie amount. I am not disputing that the VCO isn't working for you in regards to weight loss but I was stuck for quite awhile and gaining and I had to tweak some stuff and delete a few things from my diet. You can email me off line too Jeanne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2005 Report Share Posted April 30, 2005 Hi , Yes, I suspect VCO does wonders for many people. I have no doubts about that. As I've said, I definately eliminated hypothyroid symptoms at least, but I haven't had blood tested to back up my anecdotal evidence. My understanding is that Synthroid gives the body synthetic T4, while other types give both T3 and T4 hormones. The supplement I take has both 3 and 4. Synthroid has effected many people negatively, including many reports of an over active thyroid after taking the medication, and some people complain that their overactive symptoms have continued for years on Synthroid. The trainer at my gym (no absolute authority on the subject) swears that Synthroid leads to permanent weight gain. I just follow my Naturopaths advice on this, and I haven't been concerned about my supplement other than the fact that my thryoid is slowly shutting down, evidenced by the long-term need for higher and higher doses of medication. For me, support of my adrenals has been necessary, as they work in conjunction with the thyroid, and sluggish adrenals lead to hypothyroid symptoms too. I haven't been doing a great job with that I think, other then the adrenal/stress supplement I'm taking. My long-term coffee habit is taking its toll, I fear. I agree that there must be other issues involved, as far as the weight gain is concerned. Why else would I so suddenly gain and continue to gain pounds? a > > > > > Does anyone have a weight loss story they > > would > > > > like to share? I > > > > want > > > > > to hear from real people who have not been > > paid to > > > > say it has helped > > > > > them. I would like to hear the negative side > > > > also. It sounds too > > > > > good to be true. Thanks. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > > > Do you ? > > > Small Business - Try our new resources > > site! > > > http://smallbusiness./resources/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2005 Report Share Posted April 30, 2005 You know, I don't really know. I kept track for a while and found that my calorie consumption didn't seem to warrant weight gain. I realize it's possible that I could really be eating unconsciously, and I might be consistently underestimating my carb and calorie intake. So thanks for your advice. I really hate dieting, and had hoped my mostly " clean " way of eating would continue to work. I'm also 43 so age and hormonal fluctuations might have something to do with it. I'm also interested in eliminating wheat and dairy and watching to see what happens. > What are your calories, carbs, and fats averages for the day? A lot of people need to cut the carbs and up the fats while maintaining a specific calorie amount. I am not disputing that the VCO isn't working for you in regards to weight loss but I was stuck for quite awhile and gaining and I had to tweak some stuff and delete a few things from my diet. You can email me off line too > Jeanne > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2005 Report Share Posted April 30, 2005 Jeanne, If VCO is the ONLY major modification to my diet/lifestyle and I have had a significant weight gain, what do calories have to do with it? Calories were not a factor BEFORE incorporating VCO, so why would they be a factor NOW? When I began incorporating VCO into my diet, weight was not an issue for me. That fact that I have gained weight indicates that VCO has not boosted my underactive thyroid. The ONLY difference is that I am a couple years older my thyroid has continued to slow down as I have aged. --- jeanne_simons@... wrote: > What are your calories, carbs, and fats averages for > the day? A lot of people need to cut the carbs and > up the fats while maintaining a specific calorie > amount. I am not disputing that the VCO isn't > working for you in regards to weight loss but I was > stuck for quite awhile and gaining and I had to > tweak some stuff and delete a few things from my > diet. You can email me off line too > Jeanne > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2005 Report Share Posted April 30, 2005 How does one know if their adrenals are in need of help or support? I always wondered about that. Jeanne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2005 Report Share Posted April 30, 2005 My weight didn't start dropping until I totally eliminated wheat, corn, and dairy. It was feeding the candida and also I have some food intolerances to those foods. If you have candida it will cause additional problems with your thyroid. Even people that don't have thyroid problems can have impaired thyroid function with candida. Coconut oil helps to clear up the candida to enable the thyroid to work better. You might want to look into another group called @ . When you join you can get into a ton of files that they have and it is very informative. Jeanne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2005 Report Share Posted April 30, 2005 Have you checked for candida? -------------- Original message -------------- Jeanne, If VCO is the ONLY major modification to my diet/lifestyle and I have had a significant weight gain, what do calories have to do with it? Calories were not a factor BEFORE incorporating VCO, so why would they be a factor NOW? When I began incorporating VCO into my diet, weight was not an issue for me. That fact that I have gained weight indicates that VCO has not boosted my underactive thyroid. The ONLY difference is that I am a couple years older my thyroid has continued to slow down as I have aged. --- jeanne_simons@... wrote: > What are your calories, carbs, and fats averages for > the day? A lot of people need to cut the carbs and > up the fats while maintaining a specific calorie > amount. I am not disputing that the VCO isn't > working for you in regards to weight loss but I was > stuck for quite awhile and gaining and I had to > tweak some stuff and delete a few things from my > diet. You can email me off line too > Jeanne > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2005 Report Share Posted April 30, 2005 Dear Jeanne, Yes, I am sure that that is one o my issues. I don't kow how one would " check " for it, but I DO have many of the classic symptoms. As I said earlier, I have also tried a number of cures, which have been unsuccessful. Chrisitna --- jeanne_simons@... wrote: > Have you checked for candida? > > -------------- Original message -------------- > Jeanne, > > If VCO is the ONLY major modification to my > diet/lifestyle and I have had a significant weight > gain, what do calories have to do with it? Calories > were not a factor BEFORE incorporating VCO, so why > would they be a factor NOW? > > When I began incorporating VCO into my diet, weight > was not an issue for me. That fact that I have > gained > weight indicates that VCO has not boosted my > underactive thyroid. The ONLY difference is that I > am > a couple years older my thyroid has continued to > slow > down as I have aged. > > > > > > --- jeanne_simons@... wrote: > > What are your calories, carbs, and fats averages > for > > the day? A lot of people need to cut the carbs > and > > up the fats while maintaining a specific calorie > > amount. I am not disputing that the VCO isn't > > working for you in regards to weight loss but I > was > > stuck for quite awhile and gaining and I had to > > tweak some stuff and delete a few things from my > > diet. You can email me off line too > > Jeanne > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > removed] > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2005 Report Share Posted April 30, 2005 There is a candida questionaire on the egroup site and I basically diagnosed my self because I had so many of the symptoms. Most of them actually, except for the vaginal yeast issue. I could bloat up to 8 pounds over night by eating a food that I was intolerant to as well. Good luck finding out what it is. In the meantime if you join on groups there are some very interesting articles in the files. Some of the women in the group (like myself) would continue to gain no matter how many calories, fat or low fat, carbs etc. they were eating or not eating and other people couldn't keep any weight on. Candida affects everyone differently. It appears that healing the candida has helped individuals to either gain it or lose it depending on what they needed. Bee, the moderator is very helpful and you can email her off line to discuss your situation. The list is into eating good fats and coconut oil, whole foods, grass fed meats, etc. and is not into using drugs to help get rid of the candida. Jeanne -------------- Original message -------------- Dear Jeanne, Yes, I am sure that that is one o my issues. I don't kow how one would " check " for it, but I DO have many of the classic symptoms. As I said earlier, I have also tried a number of cures, which have been unsuccessful. Chrisitna --- jeanne_simons@... wrote: > Have you checked for candida? > > -------------- Original message -------------- > Jeanne, > > If VCO is the ONLY major modification to my > diet/lifestyle and I have had a significant weight > gain, what do calories have to do with it? Calories > were not a factor BEFORE incorporating VCO, so why > would they be a factor NOW? > > When I began incorporating VCO into my diet, weight > was not an issue for me. That fact that I have > gained > weight indicates that VCO has not boosted my > underactive thyroid. The ONLY difference is that I > am > a couple years older my thyroid has continued to > slow > down as I have aged. > > > > > > --- jeanne_simons@... wrote: > > What are your calories, carbs, and fats averages > for > > the day? A lot of people need to cut the carbs > and > > up the fats while maintaining a specific calorie > > amount. I am not disputing that the VCO isn't > > working for you in regards to weight loss but I > was > > stuck for quite awhile and gaining and I had to > > tweak some stuff and delete a few things from my > > diet. You can email me off line too > > Jeanne > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > removed] > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2005 Report Share Posted April 30, 2005 Dear Jeanne, Thanks for all of your information. By the way, aren't you supposed to be on vacation? Someone on the coconut oil forum had suggested this site earlier. I am wondering if that could have been you. I made a mental note to check it out, but never did. But I will now that you've reminded me. I have absolutely no doubt that Candida is probably my main issue. In fact, about 13 years ago, I had an extreme overgrowth condition that nearly literally killed me. It has been something I have struggled with most of my life, so I am well familiar with the classic symptoms, and numerous common cures. The most effective treatment I found to date (what ultimately saved my life 13 years ago) was primarily concentrated grapefruit seed extract in a liquid glycerin serum. That has to have the most disgusting taste of any substance on the planet, but it did work. Perhaps I should consider that treatment again. YUCK!!!! OK, I'm going to check out that site right now. Thanks again, --- jeanne_simons@... wrote: > There is a candida questionaire on the > egroup site and I basically diagnosed > my self because I had so many of the symptoms. Most > of them actually, except for the vaginal yeast > issue. I could bloat up to 8 pounds over night by > eating a food that I was intolerant to as well. > Good luck finding out what it is. In the meantime if > you join on groups there are > some very interesting articles in the files. Some > of the women in the group (like myself) would > continue to gain no matter how many calories, fat or > low fat, carbs etc. they were eating or not eating > and other people couldn't keep any weight on. > Candida affects everyone differently. It appears > that healing the candida has helped individuals to > either gain it or lose it depending on what they > needed. Bee, the moderator is very helpful and you > can email her off line to discuss your situation. > The list is into eating good fats and coconut oil, > whole foods, grass fed meats, etc. and is not into > using drugs to help get rid of the candida. > Jeanne > > > -------------- Original message -------------- > Dear Jeanne, > > Yes, I am sure that that is one o my issues. I don't > kow how one would " check " for it, but I DO have many > of the classic symptoms. As I said earlier, I have > also tried a number of cures, which have been > unsuccessful. > > Chrisitna > --- jeanne_simons@... wrote: > > Have you checked for candida? > > > > -------------- Original message -------------- > > Jeanne, > > > > If VCO is the ONLY major modification to my > > diet/lifestyle and I have had a significant weight > > gain, what do calories have to do with it? > Calories > > were not a factor BEFORE incorporating VCO, so why > > would they be a factor NOW? > > > > When I began incorporating VCO into my diet, > weight > > was not an issue for me. That fact that I have > > gained > > weight indicates that VCO has not boosted my > > underactive thyroid. The ONLY difference is that I > > am > > a couple years older my thyroid has continued to > > slow > > down as I have aged. > > > > > > > > > > > > --- jeanne_simons@... wrote: > > > What are your calories, carbs, and fats averages > > for > > > the day? A lot of people need to cut the carbs > > and > > > up the fats while maintaining a specific calorie > > > amount. I am not disputing that the VCO isn't > > > working for you in regards to weight loss but I > > was > > > stuck for quite awhile and gaining and I had to > > > tweak some stuff and delete a few things from my > > > diet. You can email me off line too > > > Jeanne > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2005 Report Share Posted April 30, 2005 I also want to thank you, Jeane, for the Candida tip. I'm going to check out that website and learn a bit more about it. Thanks! > > > > What are your calories, carbs, and fats averages > > > for > > > > the day? A lot of people need to cut the carbs > > > and > > > > up the fats while maintaining a specific calorie > > > > amount. I am not disputing that the VCO isn't > > > > working for you in regards to weight loss but I > > > was > > > > stuck for quite awhile and gaining and I had to > > > > tweak some stuff and delete a few things from my > > > > diet. You can email me off line too > > > > Jeanne > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > > > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2005 Report Share Posted April 30, 2005 There is the blood test, of course, but there are also two simple tests that can be done in your health practitioner's office, or with a friend if you feel capable. One is to have your blood pressure taken while laying down, then stand up with the cuff on and see if your blood pressure drops suddenly. If your adrenals are healthy, your blood pressure should compensate immediately, and if your pressure drops it is an indication of adrenal weakness. Another test requires a flashlight....sit in a dim room, have someone shine a light near your eyes and see if the pupils contract immediately and whether they stay contracted, or whether they " bounce " a bit as if they can't hold the position. If the pupil contracts then dialates slightly again, it's supposedly an indication of adrenal weakness. These are both quickie tests done by my naturopathic doctor. There are also classic signs of adrenal exhaustions, including fatigue, bloating after meals, salt cravings,dizziness when standing up, frequent colds, muscle tenderness, hot flashes during menses, poor sleep patterns, acne, hypothyroidism and the list goes on. Hope this is helpful... > How does one know if their adrenals are in need of help or support? I always wondered about that. > Jeanne > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2005 Report Share Posted May 2, 2005 Sometimes we forget that we are less active so we don't burn as much calories/fat as we used to and yet we eat either more than we used to or just the same amount. This is usually the case with me. Eating my meals as i used to when i am very much less active than before. Re: weight loss I wasn't able to just add VCO on TOP of everything else I ate. I gained. I then REPLACED the other fats in my diet with VCO so my calorie and fat consumption were closer to what it was originally and I lost weight. I also eat a LOT of vegetables and fruit. Greens are a high nutrient food and low cal. I try to make each meal at LEAST 50% vegetable and eat as little refined food as possible. I also eat a lot of carbs. I just make sure its not refined food. I think refined food and lack of vegetables is what really contributes to weight problems. I hate dieting also so I had to find a way to eat where I could eat as much as I want and have fun cooking etc. > > What are your calories, carbs, and fats averages for the day? A lot > of people need to cut the carbs and up the fats while maintaining a > specific calorie amount. I am not disputing that the VCO isn't working > for you in regards to weight loss but I was stuck for quite awhile and > gaining and I had to tweak some stuff and delete a few things from my > diet. You can email me off line too > > Jeanne > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2005 Report Share Posted May 2, 2005 I wasn't able to just add VCO on TOP of everything else I ate. I gained. I then REPLACED the other fats in my diet with VCO so my calorie and fat consumption were closer to what it was originally and I lost weight. I also eat a LOT of vegetables and fruit. Greens are a high nutrient food and low cal. I try to make each meal at LEAST 50% vegetable and eat as little refined food as possible. I also eat a lot of carbs. I just make sure its not refined food. I think refined food and lack of vegetables is what really contributes to weight problems. I hate dieting also so I had to find a way to eat where I could eat as much as I want and have fun cooking etc. > > What are your calories, carbs, and fats averages for the day? A lot > of people need to cut the carbs and up the fats while maintaining a > specific calorie amount. I am not disputing that the VCO isn't working > for you in regards to weight loss but I was stuck for quite awhile and > gaining and I had to tweak some stuff and delete a few things from my > diet. You can email me off line too > > Jeanne > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2005 Report Share Posted May 2, 2005 Refined food and sugar and lack of fiber definitely contribute to weight problems. But I think fats do also. For example, when I eat any sizeable or enjoyable quantity of nuts, I gain weight right away, without fail. Same goes for cooking with unsaturated oils. Enig says that monounsaturates contribute the most to weight gain. Nina Re: weight loss I wasn't able to just add VCO on TOP of everything else I ate. I gained. I then REPLACED the other fats in my diet with VCO so my calorie and fat consumption were closer to what it was originally and I lost weight. I also eat a LOT of vegetables and fruit. Greens are a high nutrient food and low cal. I try to make each meal at LEAST 50% vegetable and eat as little refined food as possible. I also eat a lot of carbs. I just make sure its not refined food. I think refined food and lack of vegetables is what really contributes to weight problems. I hate dieting also so I had to find a way to eat where I could eat as much as I want and have fun cooking etc. > > What are your calories, carbs, and fats averages for the day? A lot > of people need to cut the carbs and up the fats while maintaining a > specific calorie amount. I am not disputing that the VCO isn't working > for you in regards to weight loss but I was stuck for quite awhile and > gaining and I had to tweak some stuff and delete a few things from my > diet. You can email me off line too > > Jeanne > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 17, 2005 Report Share Posted June 17, 2005 That is odd aboaut the weight gain. I lost weight. But I did change my diet to compensate for the added fat. I removed all other fat and cooking oils in my diet to keep my fat intake the same. I switched to a lot of fat free and no added fat products also so to make up for the VCO. Since I drizzle the VCO on the food, I didn't want extra oils. I was too chicken to just add VCO w/o compensating for it. lol. I fear gaining my weight back too much! And then I lost weight so I tried using it a little more liberally. I am not as cold now which is so nice. I don't feel as sluggish, dry skin is improved. I exercise very little. I take my brisk walk every night and do a few free weights in the morning. I do try to eat healthy so I can maintain the amount of weight I lost quite a few years back. I try to make each meal at least 50% vegetables and I eat a lot of whole grains and beans. Try to avoid refined food and avoid white flour and white sugar. Before, I would use oil sparingly or try to cut the amount in any way in recipes since I would gain so easily using it. What is nice for with the coconut oil is I am able to use it more liberally now while cooking w/o the weight gain. Its so nice to be able to use oil again freely. > > > > > Does anyone have a weight loss story they > > would > > > > like to share? I > > > > want > > > > > to hear from real people who have not been > > paid to > > > > say it has helped > > > > > them. I would like to hear the negative side > > > > also. It sounds too > > > > > good to be true. Thanks. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 17, 2005 Report Share Posted June 17, 2005 Dear , I have abused my health in many ways over the years. But the WORST abuse was the antibiotics. I estimate that I took somewhere between 130 and 150 full courses of broad spectrum antibiotics; 90% of them between age 32 and 42. What a disaster! Those Candida beasties LOVE me. --- s <denise_stevens@...> wrote: > Wow, those Candida beasties are everywhere! I too > have all the symptoms of > an underactive thyroid, but everytime the drs. > tested me it always came back > negative. I have all the classic symptoms, and > always run a very low temp- > usually 95degrees. If my temp reaches normal, I am > one sick puppy. Took > the candida self test back in Sept. scored off the > chart!! I have suspected > Candida for some time now, but doctors look at my > like I am insane. I have > been on antibiotics my whole life, from being > premedicated for dental work, > (because of past history of rheumatic fever), to > sinus, bronchitis, pneumonia.) > Have cfs, fibromyalgia (not formally diagnosed), > epstein-barr virus (almost 20 years ago), > etc, etc, etc. I previously weighed between > 103-120, but hit the scales last year at > the big 300. We have never been able to figure out > the weight gain, I eat like a bird most of > the time. But always sick. Anyway, I started the > anti-fungals (program from silvercreeklabs- > Dr. Saxion) and her Candida diet last Sept. > Did modify her diet somewhat, did a stricter > version. Dropped 40 pounds (first time in 20 years I > lost anything) between then and December. > My headaches (daily for 20 years) totally left, > allergy symptoms gone, I didn't look pregnant > anymore > (had horrible abdominal bloating), no more > indigestion, no more spastic colon, etc. Absolutely > amazing! > Jan. 1 got a really bad outer ear infection, and had > to be put on antibiotics again. Well, everything > went > down the tubes from there on..... all my symptoms > are back. Had an unusual amount of stress too in > life, > wasn't following the diet exact ALL the time. > > Anyway, I started back full force with the Candida > program, and am finally trying to incorporate > coconut oil. > Any suggestions or tips would be appreciated. I got > some really good tasting coconut oil from coconut > oil-online, > so enjoy just eating it from spoon. I know that I am > supposed to start slow and build up amount, what > would you > suggest?? > > > Dear a, > > There are a million other good reasons to continue > using VCO, even though it hasn't help to correct > my > underactive thyroid. > > Thanks for the advice on dessicated--- > kristinahall2000 <kristinahall@...> wrote: > > , > > > > I'm sorry the VCO hasn't worked well for you. > I'm > > sure adding the > > extra calories to my diet hasn't helped, but I > was > > quite disappointed > > my wieght gain continued unabated. The VCO has > > helped my thyroid > > symptoms quite a bit, but I remain unconvinced > that > > I don't need more > > help. If I were you, I'd consider other types > of > > thyroid medication > > first before trying synthroid...I've heard > negative > > reviews of that > > particular type of medication. I am taking > > dessicated thyroid > > prescribed by a naturopathic doctor, and it's > helped > > quite a bit. I > > do feel discouraged that my thyroid seems to > need > > more and more > > medication over the years, which is why I tried > VCO. > > Thank you for > > sharing your story. > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > I began gaining weight quickly in December. > > I've > > > > gained nearly twenty > > > > pounds since Dec. 1. February 1 I began > taking > > 3 TB > > > > of VCO every day. > > > > I had had fairly severe symptoms of > hypothyroid > > and > > > > adrenal exhaustion, > > > > and these symptoms disappeared within the > first > > > > week. I immediately > > > > began to sleep through the night, wake up > alert > > and > > > > refreshed after > > > > only eight hours of sleep (unusual for me.) > I > > also > > > > felt cheerful and > > > > enenergetic. I think I may have been > slightly > > > > hyper-thyroid, and quite > > > > honestly I loved it. I also lost two pounds > the > > > > first week, without > > > > doing anything else differently. > > > > > > > > Since then I continued to gain weight again, > > about > > > > five pounds a > > > > month. I seem to have leveled out these > last > > couple > > > > of weeks. > > > > Although I haven't begun a stringent diet, > > hoping > > > > that " sensible " > > > > eating and light excercise would do the > trick, I > > am > > > > at a loss as to why > > > > I continue to gain weight. I eat three > meals a > > day, > > > > skip sugar and > > > > grains, eat plenty of protein...I don't get > it. > > I > > > > am loathe to > > > > discontinue or reduce my VCO because it has > > > > otherwise made such a > > > > healthful difference for me. > > > > > > > > That's my story, and I welcome any comments > or > > > > suggestions. > > > > > === message truncated === __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 17, 2005 Report Share Posted June 17, 2005 Pandora, --- Pandora <donnamarie_veg@...> wrote: Its so nice to be able to use oil again freely. AMEN!!!! ____________________________________________________ Sports Rekindle the Rivalries. Sign up for Fantasy Football http://football.fantasysports. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 17, 2005 Report Share Posted June 17, 2005 It's amazing to me the amount of antibiotics prescribed. I wouldn't even know how to begin to figure out how many I have taken. Alot of good they did.....here I am 48 yrs. old and feel like 98! So frustrating!! Re: Re: weight loss Dear , I have abused my health in many ways over the years. But the WORST abuse was the antibiotics. I estimate that I took somewhere between 130 and 150 full courses of broad spectrum antibiotics; 90% of them between age 32 and 42. What a disaster! Those Candida beasties LOVE me. --- s <denise_stevens@...> wrote: > Wow, those Candida beasties are everywhere! I too > have all the symptoms of > an underactive thyroid, but everytime the drs. > tested me it always came back > negative. I have all the classic symptoms, and > always run a very low temp- > usually 95degrees. If my temp reaches normal, I am > one sick puppy. Took > the candida self test back in Sept. scored off the > chart!! I have suspected > Candida for some time now, but doctors look at my > like I am insane. I have > been on antibiotics my whole life, from being > premedicated for dental work, > (because of past history of rheumatic fever), to > sinus, bronchitis, pneumonia.) > Have cfs, fibromyalgia (not formally diagnosed), > epstein-barr virus (almost 20 years ago), > etc, etc, etc. I previously weighed between > 103-120, but hit the scales last year at > the big 300. We have never been able to figure out > the weight gain, I eat like a bird most of > the time. But always sick. Anyway, I started the > anti-fungals (program from silvercreeklabs- > Dr. Saxion) and her Candida diet last Sept. > Did modify her diet somewhat, did a stricter > version. Dropped 40 pounds (first time in 20 years I > lost anything) between then and December. > My headaches (daily for 20 years) totally left, > allergy symptoms gone, I didn't look pregnant > anymore > (had horrible abdominal bloating), no more > indigestion, no more spastic colon, etc. Absolutely > amazing! > Jan. 1 got a really bad outer ear infection, and had > to be put on antibiotics again. Well, everything > went > down the tubes from there on..... all my symptoms > are back. Had an unusual amount of stress too in > life, > wasn't following the diet exact ALL the time. > > Anyway, I started back full force with the Candida > program, and am finally trying to incorporate > coconut oil. > Any suggestions or tips would be appreciated. I got > some really good tasting coconut oil from coconut > oil-online, > so enjoy just eating it from spoon. I know that I am > supposed to start slow and build up amount, what > would you > suggest?? > > > Dear a, > > There are a million other good reasons to continue > using VCO, even though it hasn't help to correct > my > underactive thyroid. > > Thanks for the advice on dessicated--- > kristinahall2000 <kristinahall@...> wrote: > > , > > > > I'm sorry the VCO hasn't worked well for you. > I'm > > sure adding the > > extra calories to my diet hasn't helped, but I > was > > quite disappointed > > my wieght gain continued unabated. The VCO has > > helped my thyroid > > symptoms quite a bit, but I remain unconvinced > that > > I don't need more > > help. If I were you, I'd consider other types > of > > thyroid medication > > first before trying synthroid...I've heard > negative > > reviews of that > > particular type of medication. I am taking > > dessicated thyroid > > prescribed by a naturopathic doctor, and it's > helped > > quite a bit. I > > do feel discouraged that my thyroid seems to > need > > more and more > > medication over the years, which is why I tried > VCO. > > Thank you for > > sharing your story. > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > I began gaining weight quickly in December. > > I've > > > > gained nearly twenty > > > > pounds since Dec. 1. February 1 I began > taking > > 3 TB > > > > of VCO every day. > > > > I had had fairly severe symptoms of > hypothyroid > > and > > > > adrenal exhaustion, > > > > and these symptoms disappeared within the > first > > > > week. I immediately > > > > began to sleep through the night, wake up > alert > > and > > > > refreshed after > > > > only eight hours of sleep (unusual for me.) > I > > also > > > > felt cheerful and > > > > enenergetic. I think I may have been > slightly > > > > hyper-thyroid, and quite > > > > honestly I loved it. I also lost two pounds > the > > > > first week, without > > > > doing anything else differently. > > > > > > > > Since then I continued to gain weight again, > > about > > > > five pounds a > > > > month. I seem to have leveled out these > last > > couple > > > > of weeks. > > > > Although I haven't begun a stringent diet, > > hoping > > > > that " sensible " > > > > eating and light excercise would do the > trick, I > > am > > > > at a loss as to why > > > > I continue to gain weight. I eat three > meals a > > day, > > > > skip sugar and > > > > grains, eat plenty of protein...I don't get > it. > > I > > > > am loathe to > > > > discontinue or reduce my VCO because it has > > > > otherwise made such a > > > > healthful difference for me. > > > > > > > > That's my story, and I welcome any comments > or > > > > suggestions. > > > > > === message truncated === __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 17, 2005 Report Share Posted June 17, 2005 , You DEFINITELY sound like a Candida Candidate! Keep up with the VCO, and whatever other coconut products you can get. __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 18, 2005 Report Share Posted June 18, 2005 D: Wow, those Candida beasties are everywhere! R: There's a picture I saw recently, possibly on the coldcure site someone posted recently, of candida on the intestinal walls. Informative and sobering. D: I too have all the symptoms of an underactive thyroid, but everytime the drs. tested me it always came back negative. I have all the classic symptoms, and always run a very low temp- usually 95degrees. R: Their tests are not particularly sensitive anyway. They go by tests, not symptoms nowadays. Interro computer assisted electro dermal diagnosis can tell you what's going on. I went to Tara in Western Australia, but the system comes from America. Link for you to have a look: If you can't find someone near you on the web, you could ask (he is actually Sir ) if he knows of anyone near your home. He would at least know where to search. http://www.taracentre.com.au/ select Evaluating methods, then select electrodermal screening. checks the acupuncture points, shows if various organs OK, works out what homeopathic remedy and at what potency - generally at far higher potencies than classical non computer assisted homeopaths, like 200 instead of 6, 30x, etc. Also pinpointed variety of viruses, bacteria, molds, fungi, etc. and did flower remedies for the emotional side. Then the remedies were created by what I suppose is an electro magnetic current of some description when the bottles of water were placed on a plate. Some oral, some topical. Results great. Have been going 15 years or so, after a horrific history germwise, am now down to only Candida and Mercury showing up, with Silicea as the homeopathic remedy for other ills. I only ever once showed up as needing thyroid support, and one bottle of Sanum's thyroid remedy fixed me, though my neighbour needed a couple of bottles. Google for Sanum thyroid. They are in Switzerland, but available in US as I recall. D: Anyway, I started the anti-fungals (program from silvercreeklabs- Dr. Saxion) and her Candida diet last Sept R: The coldcure article, I think it was, mentioned iodine also for Candida; I know it kills all sorts of germs and those of us who read the Cider Vinegar books by Dr Jarvis learned to rely quite a lot on Lugol's solution, which you can still get in some places. D: on antibiotics again. Well, everything went down the tubes from there on..... all my symptoms are back. Had an unusual amount of stress too in life, R: Stress, the killer. Research EFT - Emotional Freedom Technique - Dr Mercola's site has pages and links. D: Anyway, I started back full force with the Candida program, and am finally trying to incorporate coconut oil. Any suggestions or tips would be appreciated. I got some really good tasting coconut oil from coconut oil-online, so enjoy just eating it from spoon. I know that I am supposed to start slow and build up amount, what would you suggest?? Mix the oil with stuff you want to eat like nuts and seeds, and make cookies or candies that way, with allowable ingredients only, of course. My suggestions: Colon cleanse Fix dysbiosis with cleanse program, weed feed and seed - get rid of parasites, heal gut, repopulate with good bacteria. I was too chicken to do it myself with web instructions, so did it slower and gentler with good naturopath iridologist. Homeopathic remedies tailored to yourself. Classical good, computer assisted state of art. Possibly Rife or Enar/Scenar You could look into Guai for your FMS - http://www.psha-inc.com/guai-support/ the original, international Guai-Support Network offers access to 'self-help' health education and support. Discussion revolves around all renditions of the guaifenesin treatment for FMS, CFS, CFIDS, IBS, EDS, IC, MCS, NMH, RLS, VV, MVP, MPS along with many other health issues such as HG, reflux, Thyroid, Toxicity, etc. Members have access to extensive archives. Rowena Australia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 22, 2005 Report Share Posted June 22, 2005 Rowena, I just found your reply to my earlier post buried in my sea of email, thank you so much for all the info! Really appreciate your help. Very interesting information.Will certainly check it all out! Thanks again, Re: Re: weight loss D: Wow, those Candida beasties are everywhere! R: There's a picture I saw recently, possibly on the coldcure site someone posted recently, of candida on the intestinal walls. Informative and sobering. D: I too have all the symptoms of an underactive thyroid, but everytime the drs. tested me it always came back negative. I have all the classic symptoms, and always run a very low temp- usually 95degrees. R: Their tests are not particularly sensitive anyway. They go by tests, not symptoms nowadays. Interro computer assisted electro dermal diagnosis can tell you what's going on. I went to Tara in Western Australia, but the system comes from America. Link for you to have a look: If you can't find someone near you on the web, you could ask (he is actually Sir ) if he knows of anyone near your home. He would at least know where to search. http://www.taracentre.com.au/ select Evaluating methods, then select electrodermal screening. checks the acupuncture points, shows if various organs OK, works out what homeopathic remedy and at what potency - generally at far higher potencies than classical non computer assisted homeopaths, like 200 instead of 6, 30x, etc. Also pinpointed variety of viruses, bacteria, molds, fungi, etc. and did flower remedies for the emotional side. Then the remedies were created by what I suppose is an electro magnetic current of some description when the bottles of water were placed on a plate. Some oral, some topical. Results great. Have been going 15 years or so, after a horrific history germwise, am now down to only Candida and Mercury showing up, with Silicea as the homeopathic remedy for other ills. I only ever once showed up as needing thyroid support, and one bottle of Sanum's thyroid remedy fixed me, though my neighbour needed a couple of bottles. Google for Sanum thyroid. They are in Switzerland, but available in US as I recall. D: Anyway, I started the anti-fungals (program from silvercreeklabs- Dr. Saxion) and her Candida diet last Sept R: The coldcure article, I think it was, mentioned iodine also for Candida; I know it kills all sorts of germs and those of us who read the Cider Vinegar books by Dr Jarvis learned to rely quite a lot on Lugol's solution, which you can still get in some places. D: on antibiotics again. Well, everything went down the tubes from there on..... all my symptoms are back. Had an unusual amount of stress too in life, R: Stress, the killer. Research EFT - Emotional Freedom Technique - Dr Mercola's site has pages and links. D: Anyway, I started back full force with the Candida program, and am finally trying to incorporate coconut oil. Any suggestions or tips would be appreciated. I got some really good tasting coconut oil from coconut oil-online, so enjoy just eating it from spoon. I know that I am supposed to start slow and build up amount, what would you suggest?? Mix the oil with stuff you want to eat like nuts and seeds, and make cookies or candies that way, with allowable ingredients only, of course. My suggestions: Colon cleanse Fix dysbiosis with cleanse program, weed feed and seed - get rid of parasites, heal gut, repopulate with good bacteria. I was too chicken to do it myself with web instructions, so did it slower and gentler with good naturopath iridologist. Homeopathic remedies tailored to yourself. Classical good, computer assisted state of art. Possibly Rife or Enar/Scenar You could look into Guai for your FMS - http://www.psha-inc.com/guai-support/ the original, international Guai-Support Network offers access to 'self-help' health education and support. Discussion revolves around all renditions of the guaifenesin treatment for FMS, CFS, CFIDS, IBS, EDS, IC, MCS, NMH, RLS, VV, MVP, MPS along with many other health issues such as HG, reflux, Thyroid, Toxicity, etc. Members have access to extensive archives. Rowena Australia ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 23, 2005 Report Share Posted August 23, 2005 If you eat a lot of fruit, that adds lots of carbohydrates. It also depends on how many seeds & nuts you eat. If you snack a lot between meals, that does not assist weight loss. I have lost close to 100 pounds in 4 years. Not just from eating coconut oil, but from changing lots of other aspects about my diet. I suggest drinking water when you feel the urge to snack. I found that drinking a heaping tsp of fiber powder in a pint of water twice a day helped to clean out my intestines, cut down on desire to snack, and helped me absorb nutrition better. Duncan Crow sells the best fiber powder I am aware of. http://members.shaw.ca/duncancrow/inulin_prebiotic_probiotic.html I reminded myself frequently that it took me over 30 years to gain 100 pounds eating poorly, so I should not expect to lose 100 pounds in 3 months, or a year. Alobar ---- Original Message ----- From: " Dorothy Grob " <dorgrob@...> <Coconut Oil > Cc: <dorgrob@...> Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2005 9:13 AM Subject: weight loss > can someone tell me how long it takes to lose weight > on vco. i am actually gaining since i introduced more > coconut into my diet. i have eliminated all processed > foods and eat only fruits, veggies, nuts, seeds and > maybe 25% cooked food. some meat and fish but very little. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2006 Report Share Posted March 4, 2006 Do you think your weight loss was due to the dx, the meds, or the malabsorption of fats that you need? --- bursten1948 <bubblesburstin@...> wrote: > AUDREY, > > I lost 40 pounds in 3 months when I was first > diagnosed and have kept it off for almost 2 > years. I never did figure out why it happened but I > wasn't dissappointed. I haven't lost > anymore since then. > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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