Guest guest Posted November 19, 2002 Report Share Posted November 19, 2002 Dear Bert, You're such a kukla! Love, [ ] Digest Number 3378 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2003 Report Share Posted October 18, 2003 In a message dated 10/18/2003 6:21:45 AM Pacific Standard Time, writes: don't know how long I will be on line. My phone is over due to be shut off. the WV hillbilly , I'm sorry to hear about this. Don't forget that you can check e-mails at most libraries for free. One has to give way for other library users who may be waiting for their turns, of course, and that can be pretty frustrating. This is a good example of why we all need to stay fairly "on-topic". Some of our group must read their e-mail at libraries, and some don't have e-mail plans with unllimited minutes. So -- we try to keep our messages fairly brief and we write about subjects that are fairly relevant to AIH and other liver diseases. Harper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2003 Report Share Posted October 19, 2003 My phone should be off Monday morning and since I don't drive I can't get to the library so I will get back to you guys as soon as I can. I am sorry for being so quiet lately but I have been sick and they have been changing some of my meds so not doing so good. I go for my bone density test on Friday and also getting a sugar check. Liver enzymes are good! I am now on a nebulizer and trying to quit smoking. Yuk!!!!!! To much right now. I am glad about your test results and hope all keeps going well. I made it down to 10mg of prednisone and 25 of Imuran. Any lower and my liver shuts down.Bummer. Tony I will always be praying for you and your family. Anita I hope things are going good for you deserve a break. How's Amy? Bert good luck with you comedy site I wish I could be there!! Hope the boys are doing good I never found out how the biopsy's went. Jerry we miss you!!!! There are a lot of others I would like to write to but am using up to much space. Don't forget me!!!!!!! the WV hillbilly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 30, 2009 Report Share Posted September 30, 2009 Anyone know anything about Evocity, a marketing company.Good or bad?Thank youGene ,DCOn Sep 30, 2009, at 7:31 AM, wrote: Chiropractic Physicians of Oregon Messages In This Digest (19 Messages) 1a. Re: pt case: stenosing tenosynovitis From: shane mclaughlin 1b. Re: pt case: stenosing tenosynovitis From: Abrahamson 1c. Re: pt case: stenosing tenosynovitis From: Dr. Ted Forcum 2a. Re: Question about Healthcare Reform Outcome From: Abrahamson 2b. Re: Question about Healthcare Reform Outcome From: hillcrestchiro 3a. Re: Piriformis Synd. From: rmaltitude 3b. Re: Piriformis Synd. From: Sunny Kierstyn 4. referral for Sun City AZ From: Dan Beeson 5a. Re: Blue Cross is getting sued over post-payment audits From: Abrahamson 6a. "Ancillary Providers" From: Lyndon McGill 6b. Re: "Ancillary Providers" From: Sunny Kierstyn 6c. Re: "Ancillary Providers" From: Lonnie 7a. Vicodan From: D Beebe, D.C. 7b. Re: Vicodan From: Abrahamson 8. OT: Welcome to Metro Hi Speed Fax Service From: Abrahamson 9. Billing for Licensed Massage From: M. s, D.C. 10. how much omega 3 do we REALLY need? From: cosmo 11. Massachusetts state insurance facts... From: cosmo 12. Fw: Daily Dose - Big Pharma targets your kids From: Vern Saboe View All Topics | Create New Topic Messages 1a. Re: pt case: stenosing tenosynovitis Posted by: "shane mclaughlin" dr_mac012@... dr_mac012 Tue Sep 29, 2009 9:03 am (PDT) Hi Lily, I actually had this on my dominant hand while going through western states and it was a long heal time for me. I agree with Dr. Caughlin about underwater ultrasound and CMT but I would add lots of trigger point work in the forearm. Start about 2-3 inches proximal of the styloid process and work your way up the forearm to the elbow. Lastly, have the patient ice all the time and if they can take it, ice water bath works best. Shane McLaughlin, DC CCSP From: Lily Roselyn <lilyroselyn22 > Subject: pt case: stenosing tenosynovitis Date: Tuesday, September 29, 2009, 8:29 AM Greetings, Have 32 yo pt (new mom) with severe unilat stenosing tenosynovitis aggravated with repetitive insertion of infant carseat belt (for 1 yr).. She's experiencing severe pain with slightest motion adductor/abductor pollicis as well as palpation of radial styloid. Thanks in advance for suggestions re conservative treatment strategies. Lily Roselyn, DC Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (5) 1b. Re: pt case: stenosing tenosynovitis Posted by: " Abrahamson" drscott@... Tue Sep 29, 2009 10:02 am (PDT) How does Graston Technique work for this? Those guys will scrape anything! Internal pterygoids gotcha down? We have a tool that fits right in there! Calling Tim Irving! And ultrasound is the ticket for stenosing anything! 2 months or more. E. Abrahamson, D.C. Chiropractic physician Lake Oswego Chiropractic Clinic 315 Second Street Lake Oswego, OR 97034 503-635-6246 Website: http://www.lakeoswegochiro.com From: Lily Roselyn <lilyroselyn22 > Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 08:29:05 -0700 (PDT) < > Subject: pt case: stenosing tenosynovitis Greetings, Have 32 yo pt (new mom) with severe unilat stenosing tenosynovitis aggravated with repetitive insertion of infant carseat belt (for 1 yr).. She's experiencing severe pain with slightest motion adductor/abductor pollicis as well as palpation of radial styloid. Thanks in advance for suggestions re conservative treatment strategies. Lily Roselyn, DC Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (5) 1c. Re: pt case: stenosing tenosynovitis Posted by: "Dr. Ted Forcum" tforcum@... Tue Sep 29, 2009 10:06 am (PDT) Graston Technique does seem to work well for this. Depending on the level of inflammation of the tendon sheath, the technique will very. Other modalities and taping would be my usual course of care for this condition. Ted Forcum, DC, DACBSP '08 US Olympic Team Chiropractor ACA Sports Council, President Back In Motion Sports Injuries Clinic, LLC 11385 SW Scholls Ferry Road Beaverton, Oregon 97008 503.524.9040 www.bimsportsinjuries.com <http://www.bimsportsinjuries.com/> The information contained in this electronic message may contain protected health information confidential under applicable law, and is intended only for the use of the individual or entity named above. If the recipient of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, copy or disclosure of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify Back In Motion Sports Injuries Clinic, LLC at 11385 SW Scholls Ferry Road, Beaverton, OR-97008. and purge the communication immediately without making any copy or distribution. ________________________________ From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Abrahamson Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 9:59 AM Lily Roselyn; Subject: Re: pt case: stenosing tenosynovitis How does Graston Technique work for this? Those guys will scrape anything! Internal pterygoids gotcha down? We have a tool that fits right in there! Calling Tim Irving! And ultrasound is the ticket for stenosing anything! 2 months or more. E. Abrahamson, D.C. Chiropractic physician Lake Oswego Chiropractic Clinic 315 Second Street Lake Oswego, OR 97034 503-635-6246 Website: http://www.lakeoswegochiro.com <http://www.lakeoswegochiro.com> ________________________________ From: Lily Roselyn <lilyroselyn22 > Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 08:29:05 -0700 (PDT) < > Subject: pt case: stenosing tenosynovitis Greetings, Have 32 yo pt (new mom) with severe unilat stenosing tenosynovitis aggravated with repetitive insertion of infant carseat belt (for 1 yr).. She's experiencing severe pain with slightest motion adductor/abductor pollicis as well as palpation of radial styloid. Thanks in advance for suggestions re conservative treatment strategies. Lily Roselyn, DC Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (5) 2a. Re: Question about Healthcare Reform Outcome Posted by: " Abrahamson" drscott@... Tue Sep 29, 2009 9:57 am (PDT) Hi Ann, Just a very brief story. It may serve to demonstrate a tendency. I had a friend who represented Social Security Disability plaintiffs. If these people were denied disability, he represented them and the law said that if they won, the gub-mint had to pay the lawyer¹s fees. No problem. Some risk for the lawyer so he had to judge whether the case was worth it. The Social Security Admin. Couldn¹t change the pay the plaintiff lawyer law but they ³tweaked it² a little bit. They arranged to have the plaintiff paid, if they won, in a lump sum for their first disability check and lawyer fees which they were supposed to pay the lawyer. Of course, they would keep the money. (He¹s got plenty. We have none.) If the lawyer sued them for it, they had nothing to take. Get it? I suspect that the government is planning to game the system to rip off the tax payers and the health care recipients. Don¹t be too hard on them. Kids, employees, customers, and patients tend to do the same things. Good thing we are all honest and uprighteous! Well, there was this one time I had a 50lb. Bag of dog food on the bottom shelf of the shopping cart the gal forgot to charge me for. But I was a little short and the store was rich so I said, ³To heck with them!² Just kidding. E. Abrahamson, D.C. Chiropractic physician Lake Oswego Chiropractic Clinic 315 Second Street Lake Oswego, OR 97034 503-635-6246 Website: http://www.lakeoswegochiro.com From: <bluepearl2001cs> Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 10:59:11 -0400 < > Subject: Question about Healthcare Reform Outcome I have a sincere question regarding the healthcare reform bill that will, most likely, come up for a vote in Congress. And I am requesting that if you can offer an answer that you do so if you have actual information. What I am trying to avoid is reams of rambling "opinions" and such. So let me frame my question: The info we are getting--There will be no changes for people, like me and my husband, who have "good insurance coverage". We get to keep our insurance and nothing will change. No one will be forced into a Public Option. So the question I have (actually, that my husband has...) is this: If a Public Option or something like that is included in this bill and that Option is less expensive and has fewer 'frills" (you know, Alternative Care...), how will that come to bear on the future insurance decisions employers will be making as they negotiate with existing healthcare insurance companies? There is chatter about existing companies having to become "more competitive". One possibility is that being 'competitive' means LESS PROFIT for them unless they can put pressure on employers to dumb down insurance plans for their employees. Another possibility is that this will give employers leverage to keep coverage from eroding and becoming more and more expensive. So if you have heard or read something that helps clarify this question, I'm all ears. Have a great day! Ann , DC Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (4) 2b. Re: Question about Healthcare Reform Outcome Posted by: "hillcrestchiro" hillcrestchiro@... hillcrestchiro Tue Sep 29, 2009 11:26 am (PDT) The problem isn't "choice" the problem is ultimate gov't control and fundimental structure. Eventually, people won't have any options but one and the option to be a cash provider will be verboten. , DC, DABCO > > 726.5 > > > > Vern Saboe > > > > _____ > > From: [mailto: ] On Behalf > Of M. s, D.C. > Sent: Monday, September 28, 2009 11:44 AM > Oregondcs > Subject: Piriformis Synd. > > > > > > Can any of you "sports" practitioners tell me what code you use for > "Piriformis syndrome" in order to communicate that to an insurance company > on a HCFA? (WITHOUT having to submit a separate report...from God). (:-) > > > > M. s, D.C. > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.113/2400 - Release Date: 09/28/09 > 05:51:00 > __________________________________________________________ found her dream laptop. Find the PC that’s right for you. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/choosepc/?ocid=ftp_val_wl_290 Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (5) 4. referral for Sun City AZ Posted by: "Dan Beeson" drdan@... Tue Sep 29, 2009 10:53 am (PDT) Dear List,, I have a patient going to Sun City for the winter,, I need a referral please..Dan Beeson Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (1) 5a. Re: Blue Cross is getting sued over post-payment audits Posted by: " Abrahamson" drscott@... Tue Sep 29, 2009 2:45 pm (PDT) Not to be cynical but there was a Grisham book about class action suits (Rain Maker?) which showed all these people getting wounded by bad drugs and the lawyers finding them and signing them up. Then they prosecuted the suit and kept most of the money. The plaintiffs got $11.36 and a nice calendar. Not that it isn¹t heartening to see insurance companies sued for this pathetic behavior. Someone needs to tell Joe Cimino who was driven out of business by this rotten Blue Cross behavior. E. Abrahamson, D.C. Chiropractic physician Lake Oswego Chiropractic Clinic 315 Second Street Lake Oswego, OR 97034 503-635-6246 Website: http://www.lakeoswegochiro.com From: Hacmac <ehacmachotmail> Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 19:33:26 -0700 < > Subject: Blue Cross is getting sued over post-payment audits PRESS RELEASE FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE Health care providers and ASSOCIATIONS sue blue cross blue shield association and 22 RELATED BCBS ENTITIES Chicago, IL  Pomerantz Haudek Grossman & Gross LLP today announced that it and co-counsel Buttaci & Leardi, LLC filed a class action lawsuit against the Blue Cross Blue Shield Association (³BCBSA²) and 22 leading BCBS insurers across the country on behalf of a putative nationwide class of health care providers, as well as the Pennsylvania Chiropractic Association (³PCA²), the New York Chiropractic Council (the ³Council²), and the Association of New Jersey Chiropractors (³ANJC²). The suit challenges the Defendants¹ abusive practices in using post-payment audits and reviews, and improper repayment demands, to pressure providers to repay substantial sums that have previously properly been paid as health insurance benefits for services provided to BCBS subscribers. The action alleges that the post-payment audit and review process as applied by the various named BCBS Entities violates the Employee Retirement Income Security Act of 1974 (³ERISA²), in that its repayment demands are retroactive determinations that particular services are not covered under the terms of the BCBS health care plans, but without proper appeal or other protections otherwise available under ERISA for both self-funded and fully insured health care plans offered through private employers. The complaint further alleges that the post-payment audit and review process, as well as the forced withholds of unrelated benefit payments to offset alleged prior overpayments, violate the Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act (³RICO²). The PCA, the Council and the ANJC are participating in the action in an associational capacity on behalf of their members, while fourteen individual chiropractors and one occupational therapist, located around the country, have sued as the class representatives of the putative class. According to Gene Veno, Executive Director of the PCA, ³we met on numerous occasions with Blues Senior Management in an effort to establish a fair and balance approach to conducting post-payment reviews, but to no avail.² As a result, he added, ³the PCA elected to join this action to ensure that the rights of our members are protected.² Four of the 15 named individual plaintiffs are Pennsylvania chiropractors. Dr. La, Chair of the Insurance Committee for the Council, states that ³this action is an important step by the chiropractic profession to fight back against the egregious actions being taken by Blue Cross Blue Shield companies against our members and other providers nationwide.² The Council and the ANJC had previously joined in a class action recently filed against Aetna, Inc. for similar post-payment audit practices. In the complaint, Plaintiffs allege that, as a means to maximize its profits, the BCBS Entities use their post-payment audit and review process to make retroactive adverse benefit determinations whereby they demand that providers repay funds they had previously received for providing services to BCBS subscribers. Moreover, the BCBS Entities frequently withhold new benefit payments for unrelated services to apply toward the alleged overpayments, even where there has been no valid appeal process or validation that any sums are in fact owed by the providers. ³In essence,² says Plaintiffs¹ counsel Dr. Hufford of Pomerantz Haudek, ³the BCBS Entities simply state there are overpayments and then just take the money from providers, without valid due process protections. We believe this is a blatant violation of law.² The Complaint further alleges that the BCBSA is coordinating the recoupment efforts with its state BCBS licensees on a nationwide basis. Plaintiffs seek to enjoin the BCBS Entities from continuing to engage in impermissible audit and recovery practices and to compel them to return the funds they have improperly withheld. The amount of funds that are at issue in the lawsuit are substantial. On June 30, 2009, the BCBSA announced that its National Anti-Fraud Department had ³recovered nearly $350 million as a result of the anti-fraud investigations in 2008.² Plaintiffs¹ co-counsel N. Buttaci of Buttaci & Leardi states that ³we believe a substantial portion of this Œrecovery¹ falls within the improper practices we are challenging in this action.² Pomerantz Haudek, which has offices in New York, Chicago, Washington, D.C., Columbus, Ohio and the San Francisco Bay area, is acknowledged as one of the premier plaintiff class action firms, and, in particular, has been a leader in the industry in health care class actions on behalf of providers and patients. Recently, the Pomerantz firm was designated to be Chair of the Plaintiffs¹ Executive Committee in a multidistrict litigation pending against Aetna in the District of New Jersey on behalf of both providers and subscribers, challenging how Aetna determines usual, customary and reasonable (³UCR²) rates for out-of-network health care services. In making the appointment, the Court stressed the significant role Pomerantz had played in a $249 million settlement of its UCR class action against Health Net, stating that the Court had ³similarly appointed Pomerantz to be Plaintiffs¹ spokesman to the Court in the Health Net litigation because the Court found D. Hufford, Esq. to be the attorney most capable of presenting Plaintiffs¹ position in a clear and concise manner.² In re Aetna UCR Litig., 2009 Dist. LEXIS 66853, *8 n.4 (D.N.J. July 31, 2009). Founded by the late Abraham L. Pomerantz, known as the dean of the class action bar, Pomerantz Haudek pioneered the field of securities class actions. Today, more than 70 years later, Pomerantz Haudek continues in the tradition he established, fighting for the rights of the victims of fraud, breaches of fiduciary duty, and corporate misconduct. The Firm has recovered numerous multimillion-dollar damages awards on behalf of class members.Buttaci & Leardi, based in Princeton, New Jersey, has a dynamic national health care practice, representing licensed health care providers, group practices and other provider-related entities throughout the country. It has extensive experience representing providers in challenging post-payment audits and retroactive recoupments, including those pursued by numerous Blue Cross Blue Shield licensees, and has obtained tremendous success on behalf of its clients. Counsel for plaintiffs are continuing to investigate these claims, and other related claims that may be added to the litigation. If you have any questions, please contact D. Hufford, Esq. of Pomerantz Haudek Grossman & Gross LLP, by phone (614-410-6501) or email (dbhuffordpomlaw). Hacmac, DC Portland, OR 503-656-8098 www.WeAdjustLives.com __________________________________________________________ _____ Electronic Privacy Notice. This e-mail, and any attachments, contains information that is, or may be, covered by the Electronic Communications Privacy Act, 18 U.S.C. 2510-2521, and is also confidential and proprietary in nature. If you are not the intended recipient, please be advised that you are legally prohibited from retaining, using, copying, distributing, or otherwise disclosing this information in any manner. Instead, please reply to the sender that you have received this communication in error, and then immediately delete it. Thank you in advance for your cooperation. Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (2) 6a. "Ancillary Providers" Posted by: "Lyndon McGill" twogems@... Tue Sep 29, 2009 3:04 pm (PDT) Vern: Just got a reply fax from Dr. Heidi Loganbill, neurologist here in Salem, after attempting to refer one of my patients to her for a nerve conduction study that reads: "Thank you for your referral of this patient. Due to problems we have recently encountered, we are no longer able to accept referrals directly from ancillary providers. After the patient has been evaluated by a medical doctor and that physician has confirmed the need for the study, we will contact the patient to schedule it." Whatup? We've been referring to her for the last 20 years or so. Lyndon McGill, D.C. Salem, Oregon Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (3) 6b. Re: "Ancillary Providers" Posted by: "Sunny Kierstyn" skrndc1@... Tue Sep 29, 2009 3:19 pm (PDT) It's called 'CYA'.....medical doctors are NOT to treat ANYTHING until the diagnosis has been 'proven' by lab/imaging studies.....that way the billings are spread around and the profits are enjoyed by all. It also proves to the insuance company they have a 'true' diagnosis. Knowing how to dx wihout imaging is passe....don't have to be a doctors anymore, just know enough to order the right back up test. Sunny Sunny Kierstyn, RN DC Fibromyalgia Care Center of Oregon 2677 Willakenzie Road, 7C Eugene, Oregon, 97401 541- 654-0850; Fx; 541- 654-0834 From: twogemsunidial Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 15:03:06 -0700 Subject: "Ancillary Providers" Vern: Just got a reply fax from Dr. Heidi Loganbill, neurologist here in Salem, after attempting to refer one of my patients to her for a nerve conduction study that reads: "Thank you for your referral of this patient. Due to problems we have recently encountered, we are no longer able to accept referrals directly from ancillary providers. After the patient has been evaluated by a medical doctor and that physician has confirmed the need for the study, we will contact the patient to schedule it." Whatup? We've been referring to her for the last 20 years or so. Lyndon McGill, D.C. Salem, Oregon __________________________________________________________ Insert movie times and more without leaving Hotmail®. http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/QuickAdd?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tutorial_QuickAdd_062009 Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (3) 6c. Re: "Ancillary Providers" Posted by: "Lonnie " 1lobogris@... redsana123 Tue Sep 29, 2009 4:00 pm (PDT) Perhaps you should call her and find out. I remember a number of times here in Portlan where an orthopedist's staff member was making the call. In both cases the MD was not happy with the staff person Lonnie > > From: twogemsunidial > Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 15:03:06 -0700 > Subject: "Ancillary Providers" > > Vern: > > Just got a reply fax from Dr. Heidi Loganbill, neurologist here in > Salem, after attempting to refer one of my patients to her for a nerve > conduction study that reads: > > "Thank you for your referral of this patient. Due to problems we have > recently encountered, we are no longer able to accept referrals directly > from ancillary providers. After the patient has been evaluated by a > medical doctor and that physician has confirmed the need for the study, > we will contact the patient to schedule it." > > Whatup? We've been referring to her for the last 20 years or so. > > Lyndon McGill, D.C. > Salem, Oregon > > > ------------------------------------ > > All posts must adhere to OregonDCs rules located on homepage at: / > Tell a colleague about OregonDCs! 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Guest guest Posted October 23, 2009 Report Share Posted October 23, 2009 It has 890 mcg in half a drop. I guess I bought the wrong thing though. Mine has granular iodine and sodium iodine. I figured Dr was a trusted brand. What should I be buying... Kayte If you are talking about the original Lugol's formula she is recommending less than a mg/day. I can't imagine anyone using Lugol's for therapeutic uses taking less than 12.5 mg/day which is two drops. > > I think she is recommending too low a dose! many ppl use several drops > of Lugols a day. how much iodine/iodide is in a drop? > Gracia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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