Guest guest Posted September 29, 2002 Report Share Posted September 29, 2002 Please consider me a skeptic. Using one organism to defeat another can quite possibly replace one allergenic situation with another. All microorganisms have the potential to have an effect on human health, particularly for people who are immune compromised by illness or even prolonged mold exposure. I am skeptical of any company claiming to do better than any EPA approved products. The claim of being used on naval submarine base housing suggests some military approval, or perhaps this was simply a few sailors being individually sold a bill of goods. I see no mention of this product on the web site for the Army Center for Health Promotion and Preventive Medicine. Why not, if it's so good? Mold is a major military housing problem being investigated by CHPPM. As someone with an allergy to something in my workplace where the experts say there is no problem, a common experience for mold victims, I was intriged by one other claim: " They (Bio-Science) came in, applied their enzyme formula, and within days, these facilities were safe for human habitation. Needless to say, we were all quite impressed. " Who says these facilities were safe for human habitation, the experts, or people who had such severe reactions previously that they wanted to flee? This letter from ( who?) suggests another probable charlatan trying to fleece money from desparate victims. Perhaps if it really works, can provide us with news links rather than his own testimonial. Gil From: CarrollBower <ntmcpresident@y...> Date: Sat Sep 28, 2002 9:31 am Subject: The Company writes, about their product for Toxic Mold Removal! Dear all: Here is the nice letter we recieved this morning and am forwarding it, and hope that it answers your questions regarding this " non-Chemical: treatment. Carroll-Bower, President, National Toxic Mold Coaltition From: anthony@b... Date: Fri Sep 27, 2002 8:14 pm Subject: Re: National Toxic Mold Coalition link to your site. ntmcpresident@y... Thank you for linking us up to your site. I hope we can help people with the toxic mold crisis. Bio-Science is dedicated to eliminating the mold problem and creating healthier and happier homes. I appreciate you supporting our company and most of all believing in our work. let me know if Bio-Science can be some assistance in the future. I am adding a article written about the company. I hope you find it interesting. Thanks- Can you KILL Toxic Mold without destroying your house? This company uses biological warfare on toxic mold -- and the U.S.Navy says it works! Can the threat of toxic mold be eliminated without destroying your home? Yes, At least, that is the contention of Shippole, president of a Shrewsbury, Mass., company called Bio-Science Environmental Services and Laboratory, Inc. Bio-Science has pioneered the use of enzyme-based products that attack biological threats like toxic mold on the biochemical level. Shippole says his company's method has the promise of revolutionizing the remediation of toxic mold, which usually involves the destruction of infested buildings. The technique has already been used with great success at a U.S. Naval facility, saving millions of U.S. tax dollars in the process. Shippole says the idea of using biological agents to fight biological contamination first came in the 1980s and '90s, when oil companies were struggling with the problem of gas that had seeped from underground storage tanks at corner gas stations across New England. The companies were under the gun to clean up the contamination, which posed a threat to groundwater and the environment. That idea turned out to be a proprietary enzyme-based product that Bio-Science injected into the soil, which was then cleansed by natural microbial action, without having to be removed and replaced. The petroleum companies that opted for Shippole s solution over the available alternatives found themselves saving substantial amounts of time and dollars in the bargain. When concern began arising over a new threat - toxic mold - Shippole said that the concept of using biochemical agents to defeat what is, after all, a biologic threat was a natural. " Just like with the gas stations, we saw this new problem, with people knocking down buildings that might have been saved, and others tearing out walls and ceilings and floors and replacing perfectly salvageable materials, we realized that, in many cases, those drastic, costly, time-consuming measures were not necessary at all, " Shippole said. Bio-Science then went to work to find new formulations of enzyme agents that could fight all the various forms of toxic mold - not just the infamous " black mold " called stachybotrys. " Aspergillus is so dangerous that I have been asked not to send our samples to a certain laboratory because they fear it could contaminate their own environment, " Gorton, executive vice president, says. " This lab processes plague and anthrax, but doesn't want to work with aspergillus. " Bio-Science has already used this method at the US Naval Submarine Base in Groton, Conn. Base Housing Officer Harth said sailors on base tried all the EPA-approved methods for suppressing the various toxic molds, but nothing worked. " They (Bio-Science) came in, applied their enzyme formula, and within days, these facilities were safe for human habitation. Needless to say, we were all quite impressed. " Shippole is quite confident in his company. " We've clearly proved that enzyme remediation works. Now we need to convince people to face up to their air quality problems by taking a proactive approach to the situation. An aggressive strategy will prevent additional illnesses, absenteeism, lost productivity and such, and, of course, the expensive lawsuits that inevitably follow a diagnosis of toxic mold contamination. " " First and foremost, this is a health issue. Only secondarily is it a cost issue. If it was your child in a contaminated school, or your spouse working in the contaminated office building, you would want the situation fixed immediately, and rightly so. " Shippole feels that, if there was no cost factor, every contamination would be addressed without delay. " Enzyme remediation at $6.00 per square foot as compared to construction costs of 50 to 100 times that, certainly ought to be considered, I would think. 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