Guest guest Posted April 20, 2001 Report Share Posted April 20, 2001 In a message dated 04/20/2001 3:00:32 AM Central Daylight Time, Vaccinations writes: << My mom mentioned that more and more docs aren't accepting insurance at all- the don't want anyone to tell them how to practice medicine. Anyone out there work with a doc like that? Just curious. >> My previous doctor did not accept any insurance. You had to file on your own. If you were on a PPO, it worked out ok. I guess that HMO participants were out of luck! He did not like the politics of the insurance companies dictating to him how he should treat patients, I am guessing! Lynn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2001 Report Share Posted April 20, 2001 So help me understand how this worked- you paid the doc out of pocket and then billed your own insurnce company? So in other words the doc didn't deal with the insurance at all, that was your choice/responsibility? Also curious- if the doc ordered tests or recommended a hospital stay, could you bill your insurance for that or did you have to pay out of pocket? Also did the doc have an affiliation with a hospital/ med center or was he/she just on their own somehow? I'm so curious how this works. I suppose you also had the choice whether or not to involve your insurance company at all? Thanks in advance for dealing with all of these questions! ~Kelli Re: Digest Number 1585 > In a message dated 04/20/2001 3:00:32 AM Central Daylight Time, > Vaccinations writes: > > << My mom mentioned that more and more docs aren't accepting insurance at > all- the don't want anyone to tell them how to practice medicine. Anyone out > there work with a doc like that? Just curious. >> > > My previous doctor did not accept any insurance. You had to file on your own. > If you were on a PPO, it worked out ok. I guess that HMO participants were > out of luck! He did not like the politics of the insurance companies > dictating to him how he should treat patients, I am guessing! > Lynn > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2001 Report Share Posted April 21, 2001 I could be wrong, but it's my understanding that docs are REQUIRED BY LAW to file insurance. It used to be that they didn't have to file it, but now they are required to, then bill the patient for the balance. Sherri Monty wrote: > So help me understand how this worked- you paid the doc out of pocket and > then billed your own insurnce company? So in other words the doc didn't > deal with the insurance at all, that was your choice/responsibility? Also > curious- if the doc ordered tests or recommended a hospital stay, could you > bill your insurance for that or did you have to pay out of pocket? Also did > the doc have an affiliation with a hospital/ med center or was he/she just > on their own somehow? I'm so curious how this works. I suppose you also had > the choice whether or not to involve your insurance company at all? > > Thanks in advance for dealing with all of these questions! > > ~Kelli > > Re: Digest Number 1585 > > > In a message dated 04/20/2001 3:00:32 AM Central Daylight Time, > > Vaccinations writes: > > > > << My mom mentioned that more and more docs aren't accepting insurance at > > all- the don't want anyone to tell them how to practice medicine. Anyone > out > > there work with a doc like that? Just curious. >> > > > > My previous doctor did not accept any insurance. You had to file on your > own. > > If you were on a PPO, it worked out ok. I guess that HMO participants > were > > out of luck! He did not like the politics of the insurance companies > > dictating to him how he should treat patients, I am guessing! > > Lynn > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2001 Report Share Posted May 4, 2001 That hampster virus is the one that got me about two or three weeks ago....... My husband had to spend hours cleaning out my computer... : I no longer open ANY attachments...from anyone.. Joanne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2001 Report Share Posted May 4, 2001 That is the best policy. Never open an attachment unless you are expecting it, regardless of who it is from. I'll e-mail the sender first, if I'm not sure, and ask what they sent. It's saved my behind more than a couple times. Don Terradon Unlimited Creative Embroidery http://www.TerradonUnlimited.com "People who ask me how we can still have such a positive attitude after all we’ve been through, have it all wrong…We’ve been able to get through all that we have BECAUSE we have a positive attitude". Don Hanson 8/2000 -----Original Message-----From: Jeff Cathcart [mailto:JJCATHCART@...]Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 11:54 AM Subject: Re: [ ] Digest Number 1585That hampster virus is the one that got me about two or three weeksago....... My husband had to spend hours cleaning out my computer... :I no longer open ANY attachments...from anyone.. Joanne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2001 Report Share Posted May 5, 2001 Hello, Cherry. We're glad to hear from you again, sorry you haven't been feeling as well as usual. Harper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2001 Report Share Posted May 5, 2001 HI Don and the rest of the group' I recently have had the awful virus problem. How and where I don't really know. I think my daughter wrote to you and flatcat(?). I have been sick since Easter or before(?) Brain fogs keep me crazy sometimes. What my daughters, who work on computers told me to do is : in the morning turn on your computer and just leave it on all day. It won't hurt it. Sooo I would get up in the morning and leave my computer on and just read my medical news from the groups. Then all of a sudden everyone was emailing me about viruses I then turned it over to my daughter. Thanks for all your help. I use the VShield virus protector and have now updated it to the max. I sure hope everyone is understanding since I, personally, did not do anything. What an awful experience. I had to twice completely clean out my computer and lost everything on my disks both times. Now I'm sure that I am clean. Once again sorry. It took me so long to clean out the viruses, what a job, that I missed this last virus. LOL So now I am feeling some better but have had a low grade fever for over a month and my fatigue is awful. I just feel so awful and sick (malaise) all the time. I am now taking laxatives for my high ammonia level and am still looking for a hepatologist in the Philadelphia area. I haven't worked in 2 yrs. and am now on Keystone Mercy and the one dr. I found in land didn't take my insurance. My brain fog is bad today and can't remember the name of hospital. Will write later. My good wishes to everyone ..............cherry Guynee RE: [ ] Digest Number 1585 That is the best policy. Never open an attachment unless you are expecting it, regardless of who it is from. I'll e-mail the sender first, if I'm not sure, and ask what they sent. It's saved my behind more than a couple times. Don Terradon Unlimited Creative Embroidery http://www.TerradonUnlimited.com "People who ask me how we can still have such a positive attitude after all we’ve been through, have it all wrong…We’ve been able to get through all that we have BECAUSE we have a positive attitude". Don Hanson 8/2000 -----Original Message-----From: Jeff Cathcart [mailto:JJCATHCART@...]Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 11:54 AM Subject: Re: [ ] Digest Number 1585That hampster virus is the one that got me about two or three weeksago....... My husband had to spend hours cleaning out my computer... :I no longer open ANY attachments...from anyone.. Joanne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2001 Report Share Posted May 5, 2001 That's great that you finally rid yourself of the virus. Some of the current ones are quite tough to clean, you have to drop into DOS to delete some files, then go into the Registry to get rid of some entries....pretty tough things for the average person to do. I'm on my 3rd year of disability. I still have a lot of fatigue problems, along with the typical joint and muscle pain, but it seems to be a little better. One thing with the fatigue is to make sure that it is only the liver that is causing the problem. I had a sleep study done and discovered that I had moderately severe sleep apnea. I was waking an average of 40+ times per hour. I never made it past the very first sleep stage. Never making it to REM sleep was devastating. Now that I use a CPAP, the liver fatigue is almost tolerable! LOL! If you, or anyone else snores, you should insist on having a sleep study. Apnea can be fatal, but is easily treated. Don Terradon Unlimited Creative Embroidery http://www.TerradonUnlimited.com "People who ask me how we can still have such a positive attitude after all we’ve been through, have it all wrong…We’ve been able to get through all that we have BECAUSE we have a positive attitude". Don Hanson 8/2000 -----Original Message-----From: NanaCherry [mailto:nanacherry@...]Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2001 10:36 AMNanaCherry; Subject: Re: [ ] Digest Number 1585 HI Don and the rest of the group' I recently have had the awful virus problem. How and where I don't really know. I think my daughter wrote to you and flatcat(?). I have been sick since Easter or before(?) Brain fogs keep me crazy sometimes. What my daughters, who work on computers told me to do is : in the morning turn on your computer and just leave it on all day. It won't hurt it. Sooo I would get up in the morning and leave my computer on and just read my medical news from the groups. Then all of a sudden everyone was emailing me about viruses I then turned it over to my daughter. Thanks for all your help. I use the VShield virus protector and have now updated it to the max. I sure hope everyone is understanding since I, personally, did not do anything. What an awful experience. I had to twice completely clean out my computer and lost everything on my disks both times. Now I'm sure that I am clean. Once again sorry. It took me so long to clean out the viruses, what a job, that I missed this last virus. LOL So now I am feeling some better but have had a low grade fever for over a month and my fatigue is awful. I just feel so awful and sick (malaise) all the time. I am now taking laxatives for my high ammonia level and am still looking for a hepatologist in the Philadelphia area. I haven't worked in 2 yrs. and am now on Keystone Mercy and the one dr. I found in land didn't take my insurance. My brain fog is bad today and can't remember the name of hospital. Will write later. My good wishes to everyone ..............cherry Guynee RE: [ ] Digest Number 1585 That is the best policy. Never open an attachment unless you are expecting it, regardless of who it is from. I'll e-mail the sender first, if I'm not sure, and ask what they sent. It's saved my behind more than a couple times. Don Terradon Unlimited Creative Embroidery http://www.TerradonUnlimited.com "People who ask me how we can still have such a positive attitude after all we’ve been through, have it all wrong…We’ve been able to get through all that we have BECAUSE we have a positive attitude". Don Hanson 8/2000 -----Original Message-----From: Jeff Cathcart [mailto:JJCATHCART@...]Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 11:54 AM Subject: Re: [ ] Digest Number 1585That hampster virus is the one that got me about two or three weeksago....... My husband had to spend hours cleaning out my computer... :I no longer open ANY attachments...from anyone.. Joanne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 4, 2003 Report Share Posted April 4, 2003 I am a chemically sensitive individual who is trying to find a workplace where I can work. Like the canary in the mines, I still have to try the room out after it has been tested because I am so sensitive. Does anyone know what role the epiglotis plays in your body? When I go into a building, I sometimes feel swelling and tenderness in the epiglotis. The doctor cannot tell me why. Any ideas? Is it an indicator that the environment is not safe for me? PeeWee1015@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 4, 2003 Report Share Posted April 4, 2003 I do that as well. Every room and building they tried to move me to. If I stayed it would get to swelling in the throat and ears. I also am that hypersensitive so they are forcing me to take disability as OWCP doesnt want to help me either. But I do do that. It will seem to swell and get itchy. Usually my first signs of mold are swollen shut painfull right sinus and outside of right ear burns like it is on fire. Janet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2003 Report Share Posted June 24, 2003 Good idea Jane... I've spoken with Dr. O'Shea a few times. He seems knowledgeable in almost every aspects relating to vaccines, and has seemingly picked up an interest in biowarfare vaccines. The largest obstacle I've encountered with his seminars is that they're normally half way around the country from MI. I also know that he's involved with the Yurko case giving expertise from vaccine damage/vs. sbs. Good man, and I'm positive would be very educational if anyone would be able to attend in their area. > Message: 3 > Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2003 04:58:18 EDT > From: darocksmom@... > Subject: Just an idea to futher educate the anthrax vaccine > > Just had an idea that if Dr. O'Shea is having seminars on vaccines which includes bioterrorism, if he is in your area you might like to contact him so he may have the opportunity to view the movie " Direct Order " and/or the possiblity of being a guest at the seminar. > > Just an idea to further educate. > > Locations listed below. > > I do NOT know Dr. O'Shea but receive his newletters. > > Jane > > The Doctor With In > > > t h e d o c t o r w i t h i n > > > VACCINE SEMINAR: The Sanctity of Human Blood > > Dr. Tim O'Shea Author of The Sanctity of Human Blood > > > Saturday 8:00 am > > > CUYAHOGA FALLS, OH > > 12-13 Jul 03 --- Saturday 8-1 Sunday 8-4 -- > > Sheraton Suites > > Front St. at Broad > > > *************************** > > > > SALT LAKE CITY, UT > > -- 19 Jul 03 -- 8 am > > Airport Holiday Inn > > > > > Last time in Ohio and Utah > > > > > This full day multimedia presentation will focus on: > > > > > This full day multimedia presentation will focus on: > > > > a.. History of vaccines > > b.. Ingredients of vaccines > > c.. How vaccines are made > > d.. Current laws regarding vaccines > > e.. The Germ Theory of Disease > > f.. Mercury, aluminum, formaldehyde > > g.. Role of the FDA > > h.. Natural vs. artificial immunity > > i.. Scientific proof of efficacy > > j.. Hematology review - blood detox > > k.. Gulf War Syndrome > > l.. Exemption forms / exemption laws > > m.. The real causes of disease > > n.. Comparison with Europe's required list > > o.. Bioterrorism and vaccines > > p.. Difference between vaccination and immunization > > q.. The human genome > > r.. Why there are 40 mandated vaccines for US school children > > s.. Congressional hearings on autism, mercury, and anthrax, > > Rep. Dan Burton > > t.. Bioterrorism vaccines coming soon: AIDS, anthrax, > > smallpox, SARS > > u.. Hepatitis A and the new High Risk Category > > This will be a rare opportunity to see the most current research > > available about this important topic. Before TV politics. economics, or > > journalism enters the discussion, the decision whether to vaccinate is > > fundamentally a scientific one. The sources of the information outlined in > > this seminar are mainstream medicine, science, and law. > > > > > In this seminar you will get all the information you need to > > make a truly informed decision for your child in this thoroughly referenced, > > clear, and entertaining presentation. > > > > > General public: $99 > > Spouse/student: $49 > > CE credit: $215 advance > > Book: $15 New 7th ed. - 2003 > > Audio CD version of full day seminar now available > > Reservations/book orders: 408 298 1800 or by email: > > O'Shea@... > > 12 hours CE credit for DCs and NDs (incl. technique) > > > Other dates: > > > o.. 12-13 Jul 03 Cuyahoga Falls OH > > p.. 19 Jul 03 Salt Lake City UT > > q.. 26 Jul 03 San CA > > r.. 2 Aug 03 Ashland OR > > s.. 9 Aug 03 Green Brook NJ > > t.. 10 Aug 03 New York City > > u.. 16 Aug 03 Las Vegas NV > > v.. 23 Aug 03 Nevada City CA > > w.. 13 Sep 03 Denver CO > > x.. 20 Sep 03 Phoenix AZ > > y.. 27 Sep 03 Seattle WA > > z.. 4 Oct 03 San Diego CA > > aa.. 11 Oct 03 N Hollywood CA > > ab.. 18 Oct 03 Sacramento CA > > ac.. 30 Aug 03 Chicago IL > > ad.. 1 Nov 03 Las Vegas , NV > > ae.. 15 Nov 03 Oakland CA > > af.. 22 Nov 03 Orange County CA > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 27, 2003 Report Share Posted December 27, 2003 Behind the 8 ball.... as usual. Happy Holidays to you all and may you inspire peace, compassion and harmony wherever you go. MJH " The Basil Book " http://foxhillfarm.us/FireBasil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2004 Report Share Posted August 28, 2004 In a message dated 8/28/2004 8:21:10 AM Eastern Daylight Time, writes: Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2004 04:53:35 -0700 (PDT) From: " Delores F. " <tequilarose413@...> Subject: Re: Digest Number 1583 Good Morning MJH, when is about to have a seizure...we try to distract him..and try to take his mind off of it... we get Barney...or one of his favorite toys..and try to get him to focus on other things... we ask him , where is Daddy? Where is Mommy? I get his phonics toy, and ask him to show me the letters ...I'll ask him to push the letter K...the letter Y...and we try to get him to spell his name. Sometimes it works... sometimes it doesn't. Then I have also found that it is better if he has the seizure and get it over with ...cuz sometimes the next one is worse . Longer...and more shaking , jerking or twitching. All I know..Is that I can't wait for the day that he stops having them, cuz I have really had it! I am just physically and mentally exhausted. this has all taken a toll on me. I'm ready for the nut house. Have a blessed day! love hugs & blessings to you and to Charlie!! Hope he's doing well...HOPE your taking time out for you too. OXOXOXO .. .. >>> Delores I am Charlie's SOLE caregiver for almost eight years now since my husband's death. We have been dealing with his petit mal, gran mal and status seizures since we adopted him at age six years. Well over thirty years. THe sound must be loud and sharp and unexpected to break the firing pattern leading to seizures. Sometimes an unexpected pinch on the arm will have the same effect. Sudden and unexpected, to fool the brain. After any seizure episode, he gets Magnesium and vitamin B complex to make up what was used up during the seizure. The officinalis tincture has not failed to stop an oncoming seizure. We've been using it for a year plus now. mjh http://foxhillfarm.us/FireBasil/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2004 Report Share Posted October 25, 2004 Thank you I will ask my doctor. Lynn Message: 15 Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 22:47:47 -0700 (PDT) From: bambii <bambii320@...>Subject: Re: Re: NauseatedWhat is the most important information I should knowabout peppermint? • Do not take peppermint without first talking toyour doctor if you have a blockage of the gallbladderor bile ducts, gallbladder inflammation, gallstones,or liver damage. --- DUG <DUG853@...> wrote: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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