Guest guest Posted June 5, 2001 Report Share Posted June 5, 2001 Subject: [ ] Digest Number 1636 We are almost 500 members strong now! Word has gotten around how great you all are. ; ) ..and you are a wonderful caring group of folks.. Ok...next??????? Good Afternoon Every One, I am Joan From Florida, the other list moderator...who has had her plate full of late..I am older then the hills, he he, but a lady never tells her age or weight, I don't tell mine because I hate to admit both..LOL.. I have AIH, PBC, HBP, Angina, Barrett's Eschophages, Diverticalitis, Edema, several minor other problems. I take 12 prescriptions a day, amounting to 25 pills, I also take a vitamin/herb régime that has been approved by all my doctors. With these additional pills I take 50 pills a day. Before you take any vitamins or herbs PLEASE check with ALL your doctors...they work for me but might not be good for you...My labs are all normal for 6 months now...if I could just be normal too life would be great...LOL.. I am retired, but studying to become a web master...I love the computer, learning, and web designing. I have my own website which includes a page for pictures of members of this liver support list. If any one would like to add your pic to the page please send it to me..I would be privilege to add it to my site..I also love to cook, sew, needlecrafts, work crossword puzzles and jigsaw puzzles. I have 4 daughters, 3 son-in-laws, 5 grandchildren, our bird Muffin and psycho puppy names Sassy...I call her psycho because she is so funny....she had a personality of her own. She is a great little friend and companion for me.... My husband is a paraplegic, confined to bed, I am his legs, so I am busy a lot during the day, is (yes I am biased) the most wonderful man on earth, kind, loving, and caring. Right now he is in the hospital since February 9th. He is still waiting for the surgery he needs before he can come home. When that will be is anyone's guess...the why is not important. Life sometimes doesn't make it easy for us..I am up at the hospital every day, sleep most afternoons. This is why I have not been responding that much here...but hopefully I can get back to normal soon.. I live in south Florida, the land of liquid sunshine. Born in St Louis, have also lived in Denver, New Orleans, Phoenix, Kansas City, and Houston. I would love to live back in Denver... And I agree with Joanne, this is the best support group on the web, no question about it.. Love ya'll, have a great day, remember to laugh all day, it makes people wonder what the heck you are up to.... Laughter is music to the heart and very healing. Soooooo, laugh a lot, love a lot, and be healthy, especially love a lot, the more love you give the more you get in return..... Be An ORGAN DONOR, you could save a life..... Joan, Florida PBC, AIH, 1 Gall Stone, HBP, Fox 's Den http://www.foxdianasden.com Foxy's Health http://www.foxdianasden.com/health.htm Liver Support http://www.foxdianasden.com/liversupport.htm My Tribute to Our Flag http://www.foxdianasden.com/flagday.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2003 Report Share Posted April 3, 2003 - Do you have any good friends whose children are in 's class? Sometimes the best observers are other parents- or for that matter other students. Earlier this year we had the " aide from Hell " assigned to my daughter at school for PE. She was screaming at my daughter- and being verbally abusive. And I was getting phone calls home about my daughters " behavior problem " . Guess who had the behavior problem? Anyway, it was another student who tipped me off to what was happening. I sent in a friend of mine in to observe (under the guise of volunteering) and she saw some of the same things. Get that attorney- sounds like you will need it. Be sure they have experience with special education. m. In a message dated 4/3/03 10:35:42 AM, writes: << And do you observe your kids at school unannounced???? Please give feedback. Thanks.... >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2003 Report Share Posted May 28, 2003 Ozone is a toxic chemical whether it is produced naturally in a thunderstorm or produced by ozonators or "air purifiers" (or sold by any other name) . Ozone is an OSHA regulated toxic chemical which is 500 times more toxic than carbon monoxide (CO) that kills hundreds of people each year. The federal air standard for ozone is only 0.1 ppm while it is 50 ppm for CO. Ozone attacks mucous membranes, ie the lungs, and causes chronic respiratory disease. NIOSH has published that ozone is not very effective in killing mold or bacteria. Ozone is not "controversial". It is toxic and dangerous and not effective in controlling mold or bacteria and should never be used in a room with people present, even to remove odors ie smoke damage odors. Dr. L. Lipsey Professor and Toxicologist University of North Florida, ---OSHA HazMat Cert. U. of Florida Med. Ctr, Jax Poison Control Center Board CV--Toxicology And Environmental Health Assoc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2003 Report Share Posted June 4, 2003 All for one and One for all. We are a WHOLE group bound together by mold. Whether illness yourself or a friend or a loved one. Weather it is you home or your work place. Some of us ,like me, real sick and homebound, some not so sick.We are still all connected. God Bless Janet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2003 Report Share Posted June 4, 2003 I do believe that the lady with the best mold site on the internet has banned me from her site! Bummer! Can I ask a simplified Question please ? Is Toxic Black Mold a site to site competition or are we all trying to get the Industry to recognize the issue at hand and handle it appropriately? I have 10's of 1000's of folks asking me for answers and do my best to help them! If we don't intermingle our thoughts, we will continue to be divided! -Jimmy ----- Original Message ----- From: < > < > Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2003 7:12 PM Subject: [] Digest Number 1636 > > FAIR USE NOTICE: > > This site contains copyrighted material the use of which has not always been specifically authorized by the copyright owner. We are making such material available in our efforts to advance understanding of environmental, political, human rights, economic, democracy, scientific, and social justice issues, etc. We believe this constitutes a 'fair use' of any such copyrighted material as provided for in section 107 of the US Copyright Law. In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, the material on this site is distributed without profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for research and educational purposes. For more information go to: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml. If you wish to use copyrighted material from this site for purposes of your own that go beyond 'fair use', you must obtain permission from the copyright owner. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > There is 1 message in this issue. > > Topics in this digest: > > 1. ozone > From: " CountryGirl " <ruthful@...> > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 26 May 2003 23:46:52 -0700 > From: " CountryGirl " <ruthful@...> > Subject: ozone > > Before I start I want to say that I DON " T sell ozone and am not interested in persuading anyone to use it. But I don't like to see people miss informed. I have studied ozone a little and what I am seeing is misinformation being repeated here. I can understand why, it is because the government, as is often the case, is teaching error. For financial gain? I don't know. More likely just ignorance. > > > From studying medical papers on ozone, this is what I have learned. Ozone does not damage lung tissue. It does however, react violently to toxins in the tissues, and this can cause irritation to the surrounding tissue. If your lungs are free of toxins you can breath ozone without ill effect. So a lung reaction is actually a sign that you are toxic and the ozone is actually helping. But a doctors monitoring would be wise. I would not recommend this to the layperson who has not thoroughly studied it. Dr. Saul Pressman said when he first started working with ozone he would cough and sputter, but as his lungs have gotten cleaned out he can breath it without event. Never the less, he does not recommend people breath ozone unless it is bubbled through something like olive oil. This give you the benefits without the discomfort. > > Ozone is oxygen and is no more life threatening than oxygen is. oxygen s o2 and ozone is o3 and that third oxygen molecule is very reactive. Which means it is eager to give itself up to neutralize cooties of all kinds, whether chemical or organic. > > When they report high ozone in the air, it is because the air is so freaking poluted that the atmosphere is trying to do what it is supposed to do and neutralize crap with the use of ozone. Ozone is not evil, it is good, and if it wasn't for the ozone in the air, the air would get dirty and stay dirty and we would all be dead. To give ozone alerts is like putting dish soap in dirty water and warning people to watch out for the dish soap in the water. > > Ozone is currently being used all over the world to heal people of all manner of illness that would otherwise be considered incurable. It was used in mainstream medicine in the US until the forties when big pharma decided it was working against their plans to heal people with drugs. > > You can contact Saul Pressman at ozonetherapy and he will send you a free copy of an e book called " The Story of Ozone " He is a good guy and is one of the worlds top experts on ozone. Lives in Canada. > > I am not interested in persuading anyone to use ozone. I just don't like to see misinformation being perpetuated. Ozone saunas are very healing, but can be an unpleasant experience until the toxin levels reduce. Same with ozone insulflation or cupping. Medical grade ozone kills cancer like nobodies business. > > It also destroys rubber, so don't run it in the same room with your vcr or other equipment with rubber belts. > > Blessings > Donna > http://www.excellentthings.net > > > > [This message contained attachments] > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2003 Report Share Posted June 4, 2003 Jimmy, As an owner of a mold related site (of sorts), I have been trying to work with some of the other site owners to further the cause. It is always in everyone's best interest to work together. However, the problems begin when personalities conflict (we are all human), people's opinions differ in what is useful and what is not, what needs to be addressed and the best way to go about achieving that. There are some of us that have gone to seminars, conferences, and spoken with the leading experts in the field to gain as much information and knowledge possible. I am currently sitting on the Oklahoma Mold Task Force, the Oklahoma Mold Education Council, as well as the new IICRC Mold Remediation Standards Review Committee. Through education and acceptance, we can all do our part. Not everyone can or will get along, however, I do feel, in some ways, we can and should be working together in a professional atmosphere. I hope that helps answer some of your question and I hope that you will continue to seek answers to this problem. Larkin -----Original Message-----From: StartRemodeling.com [mailto:jimmy@...]Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 1:48 PM Subject: Re: [] Digest Number 1636I do believe that the lady with the best mold site on the internet hasbanned me from her site! Bummer!Can I ask a simplified Question please ?Is Toxic Black Mold a site to site competition or are we all trying to getthe Industry to recognize the issue at hand and handle it appropriately?I have 10's of 1000's of folks asking me for answers and do my best to helpthem!If we don't intermingle our thoughts, we will continue to be divided!-Jimmy----- Original Message ----- From: < >< >Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2003 7:12 PMSubject: [] Digest Number 1636>> FAIR USE NOTICE:>> This site contains copyrighted material the use of which has not alwaysbeen specifically authorized by the copyright owner. We are making suchmaterial available in our efforts to advance understanding of environmental,political, human rights, economic, democracy, scientific, and social justiceissues, etc. We believe this constitutes a 'fair use' of any suchcopyrighted material as provided for in section 107 of the US Copyright Law.In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, the material on this site isdistributed without profit to those who have expressed a prior interest inreceiving the included information for research and educational purposes.For more information go to: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml.If you wish to use copyrighted material from this site for purposes of yourown that go beyond 'fair use', you must obtain permission from the copyrightowner.> ------------------------------------------------------------------------>> There is 1 message in this issue.>> Topics in this digest:>> 1. ozone> From: "CountryGirl" <ruthful@...>>>> ________________________________________________________________________> ________________________________________________________________________>> Message: 1> Date: Mon, 26 May 2003 23:46:52 -0700> From: "CountryGirl" <ruthful@...>> Subject: ozone>> Before I start I want to say that I DON"T sell ozone and am not interestedin persuading anyone to use it. But I don't like to see people missinformed. I have studied ozone a little and what I am seeing ismisinformation being repeated here. I can understand why, it is because thegovernment, as is often the case, is teaching error. For financial gain? Idon't know. More likely just ignorance.>>> From studying medical papers on ozone, this is what I have learned. Ozonedoes not damage lung tissue. It does however, react violently to toxins inthe tissues, and this can cause irritation to the surrounding tissue. Ifyour lungs are free of toxins you can breath ozone without ill effect. So alung reaction is actually a sign that you are toxic and the ozone isactually helping. But a doctors monitoring would be wise. I would notrecommend this to the layperson who has not thoroughly studied it. Dr. SaulPressman said when he first started working with ozone he would cough andsputter, but as his lungs have gotten cleaned out he can breath it withoutevent. Never the less, he does not recommend people breath ozone unless itis bubbled through something like olive oil. This give you the benefitswithout the discomfort.>> Ozone is oxygen and is no more life threatening than oxygen is. oxygen so2 and ozone is o3 and that third oxygen molecule is very reactive. Whichmeans it is eager to give itself up to neutralize cooties of all kinds,whether chemical or organic.>> When they report high ozone in the air, it is because the air is sofreaking poluted that the atmosphere is trying to do what it is supposed todo and neutralize crap with the use of ozone. Ozone is not evil, it isgood, and if it wasn't for the ozone in the air, the air would get dirty andstay dirty and we would all be dead. To give ozone alerts is like puttingdish soap in dirty water and warning people to watch out for the dish soapin the water.>> Ozone is currently being used all over the world to heal people of allmanner of illness that would otherwise be considered incurable. It was usedin mainstream medicine in the US until the forties when big pharma decidedit was working against their plans to heal people with drugs.>> You can contact Saul Pressman at ozonetherapy and he willsend you a free copy of an e book called "The Story of Ozone" He is a goodguy and is one of the worlds top experts on ozone. Lives in Canada.>> I am not interested in persuading anyone to use ozone. I just don't liketo see misinformation being perpetuated. Ozone saunas are very healing, butcan be an unpleasant experience until the toxin levels reduce. Same withozone insulflation or cupping. Medical grade ozone kills cancer likenobodies business.>> It also destroys rubber, so don't run it in the same room with your vcr orother equipment with rubber belts.>> Blessings> Donna> http://www.excellentthings.net>>>> [This message contained attachments]>>>> ________________________________________________________________________> ________________________________________________________________________>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 28, 2004 Report Share Posted July 28, 2004 In a message dated 7/28/04 11:16:59 AM Eastern Daylight Time, writes: > I am about to go live with my website and the last step is getting an > account to accept credit and debit cards. Do you all have a preference on > which company? Is there anything I should look for/avoid? Your guidance > and comments are most welcome... > Hi Leigh-congrats on almost having your website done-can't wait to see it! :-) I'd be interested in the advice people share on merchant accounts, as well. Did you make your own site? Anything you can advise on who to use to make a site? I'm still thinking I need to work on that soon. Thanks!! :-) Carol J Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 28, 2004 Report Share Posted July 28, 2004 Coleen Im happy that you haven't lost your husband, and I hope things only continue to get better for you and your husband!!!! wrote: There are 21 messages in this issue. Topics in this digest: 1. Re: Re: lavender EO From: itspatti5@... 2. Re: OT- in hospital From: titictbc@... 3. Re: Re: lavender EO From: " Winward " 4. Re: infusing oils & rain! From: ByrneBunch@... 5. RE: infusing oils & rain! From: " Shaye " 6. Re: Silicone mold From: " soapnazi2002 " 7. Re: infusing oils & rain! From: ByrneBunch@... 8. Re: Colleen From: caroljune13@... 9. RE: infusing oils & rain! From: " Shaye " 10. Silicone mold From: " lovelylilyone " 11. RE: Silicone mold From: " Shaye " 12. Still OT- From: " Colleen ston " 13. Maureen Barger From: " Kim Fuoco " 14. in Hospital From: " Kim Fuoco " 15. Re: Still OT- From: " kae " 16. Re: Still OT- From: " skingsle@... " 17. Accepting Credit Cards From: Leigh ODonnell 18. RE: Accepting Credit Cards From: " Winward " 19. Re: Accepting Credit Cards From: Robbydobby916@... 20. Re: Accepting Credit Cards From: " Sandy " 21. Re: Still OT- From: Ehrhardt ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 1 Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 12:49:29 EDT From: itspatti5@... Subject: Re: Re: lavender EO i bought some eo from a company in England and it was greattttttttt i loved the quality of the oil .. and now they are only selling in London area only...and i have to find a good supplier.. i will check lleberruth .. i looked at camden gray site ..they all say they are great .. i was looking for someone else's opinion besides the company lololol I am not going to make this out of soy wax.... A veggie wax instead...you are right ..soy and lavender doesn't mix well for some reason.... thankssssssssssss patti Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 8, 2005 Report Share Posted October 8, 2005 do we really know that our liver can't be damaged or be elavated on LDN. I am taking 3.5 for 1 year and my liver is now elevated. they don't know why excpt for the LDN. Please respond people. cj --- low dose naltrexone wrote: > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 8, 2005 Report Share Posted October 8, 2005 --- In low dose naltrexone , july johnson <sun3598@y...> wrote: > > > do we really know that our liver can't be damaged or > be elavated on LDN. I am taking 3.5 for 1 year and my > liver is now elevated. they don't know why excpt for > the LDN. Please respond people. cj > > > This is from the officiale LDN site: Full-dose naltrexone (50mg) carries a cautionary warning against its use in those with liver disease. This warning was placed because of adverse liver effects that were found in experiments involving 300mg daily. The 50mg dose does not apparently produce impairment of liver function nor, of course, do the much smaller 3mg and 4.5mg doses. also I remeber reading DrBihari said that all his patients were tested for liver damage after a few years on LDN and everyone came out negative. So at the dosages we take there is no problem whatso ever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 18, 2005 Report Share Posted November 18, 2005 --- In low dose naltrexone , july johnson <sun3598@y...> wrote: > > > do we really know that our liver can't be damaged or > be elavated on LDN. I am taking 3.5 for 1 year and my > liver is now elevated. they don't know why excpt for > the LDN. Please respond people. cj > > > > my liver enzymes are elevated as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 18, 2005 Report Share Posted November 18, 2005 I can't answer your question Jody but as the liver is a processor (with around 500 functions), my first thought was 'could be caused by many things'. With this in mind, I imagine those in the know here will want to know a lot more first - about everything you ingest or are exposed to, eg; Diet - detail of food and drink; genetic predispositions; daily water consumption; alcohol consumption; all present and past medications; all nutritional supplements, vitamins, etc, and; possibility of environmental exposure to chemicals in the home or workplace. Regards, Cris [low dose naltrexone] Re: Digest Number 1636 >> > do we really know that our liver can't be damaged or> be elavated on LDN. I am taking 3.5 for 1 year and my> liver is now elevated. they don't know why excpt for> the LDN. Please respond people. cj> > > > my liver enzymes are elevated as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 18, 2005 Report Share Posted November 18, 2005 > > > > > > do we really know that our liver can't be damaged or > > be elavated on LDN. I am taking 3.5 for 1 year and my > > liver is now elevated. they don't know why excpt for > > the LDN. Please respond people. cj > > > > > > > > my liver enzymes are elevated as well > ======== Come off the LDN and see if it goes down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 18, 2005 Report Share Posted November 18, 2005 Hi Jody, My husband's liver enzymes were elevated for a little while but then went back down to normal. He is taking 4.5mg. LDN is approved by the FDA in 50mg doses. You are only taking 3.5mg which is nothing, a grain of sand. If you've had a cold or anything your enzymes might increase for a while, but LDN is worth staying on! My husband has not had an exacerbation since June 2004, when he started taking it. Terria (USA) On Fri, 18 Nov 2005 00:25:35 -0000 "jodygreco" <jodygreco@...> writes: >> > do we really know that our liver can't be damaged or> be elavated on LDN. I am taking 3.5 for 1 year and my> liver is now elevated. they don't know why excpt for> the LDN. Please respond people. cj Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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