Guest guest Posted June 1, 2003 Report Share Posted June 1, 2003 Just FYI: I don't post much, but this is one subject, that I am concerned about. , you said in one post you knew some of Ozone. I have studied the molecular composition of Ozone and many other gases. I never imagined that the knowledge I have would all these years would later come in use. Is something how the things we study about in college, med school, and we think will never be of use, do. Dr. Lipskey has far more credentials and knowledge on Ozone than any of us. Have read your posts and hesitated to post about Ozone. But, the last post by you, made me decide to post all the info I have had on Ozone. Hopefully will help others realize the dangers and what OZONE is. Dr. Lipsey stated: " Ozone is an OSHA regulated toxic > chemical which is 500 times more toxic than carbon monoxide (CO) that kills hundreds of people each year. The federal air standard for ozone is only 0.1 ppm while it is 50 ppm for CO. Ozone attacks mucous > membranes, ie the lungs, and causes chronic respiratory disease. " I having MS and sight damage from Ozone machines, I don't want anyone else to suffer also. Ozone is harder on us whom already have lung damage, Immune systems attacked. And elderly people are more prone to damage also. This board is SICK BLDGS! Most of us on here have suffered from TOXIC MOLDS! and other volatile chemicals. I having the flair running just 3 days, opened the windows, turned on the fan and aired this place out for a day. And yet could still smell it in the corners of my house for over a month. It leaves a residue. The belt on my vacuum cleaner completely disintegrated. Had over $300 in medical bills just from 3 days of the usage. Gils post was quite informative. He for 32 years in the ozone field. I worked with OSHA and the EPA back in the 70's using gas chromatography. Anyone who listens to the weather, reads on pollution has heard about OZONE Alert! The EPA and OSHA may have things that are flawed, but OZONE IS NOT one of them. Below are links and WHAT OZONE is. Years ago, Ozone wasn't as much a problem as it is today. Today we have toxic molds, pollutants, etc. Ozone damages plants. If plants, what about our eyes and lungs? Like I said before, I have neurological damage from toxic molds, lung and eye damage. I do wish Ozone was able to be used instead of chlorine. I know the damage chlorine does. It smells, causes damage to our eyes, lungs and skin. I do wish that Ozone could be safely used today. But it can't. You said in your post that children swimming are more affected by asthma. Water=toxic molds. Aspergillus lives in swimming pool water. It was growing in the oil from a can I used to fill my car. Then when filled my lawnmower, the stuff was growing on the top of the can were there was still a small bit of gasoline. Hope this helps....... TO CLARIFY for laymen: *********************************************************** What is Ozone: Ozone is actually just pure oxygen. The normal oxygen that we breath is diatomic oxygen, O2. That just means that there are two oxygen atoms bonded together. In Ozone molecules there are three oxygen atoms and the extra atom is what causes all the problems associated with ozone. http://www.nps.gov/seki/ozone.htm <1997> __________________ People and animals have to inhale oxygen to live. About 18 percent of the air we breathe is O2,two oxygen atoms that live happily together. Ozone,O3,has an extra oxygen atom, and the three of them don't live together very peacefully. They like to yank electrons out of other chemical compounds, including some that make up your lung cells. These compounds are left damaged just like you would be if somebody yanked off your arm. So they stop functioning like they're supposed to. That's oxidation. ___________________ Volatile Organic Compounds (VOC) VOCs react in the presence of nitrogen oxides and sunlight to form ground-level ozone, a major component of smog. Ozone irritates the eyes, damages the lungs, and aggravates respiratory problems. It is our most widespread and intractable urban air pollution problem. Ozone also reduces agricultural production and the growth rate of trees. A number of exhaust VOCs are also toxic, with the potential to cause cancer, nerve damage, and other health effects. Benzene, a known human carcinogen, is an example of a toxic VOC found in vehicle exhaust. Some urls for people interested in Ozone safety _________________________ http://www.clair.org/ozoneb.htm http://www.sbcapcd.org/sbc/ozonehealth.htm http://www.dep.state.fl.us/air/pollutants/ozone.htm http://www.epa.gov/oar/oaqps/gooduphigh/#goodbad http://www.ems.org/air_pollution/ozone_health.html http://www.powerscorecard.org/issue_detail.cfm?issue_id=3 http://www.lungnet.org.au/Fact%20Sheets/pollution-health.html http://www.senate.gov/~edwards/issues/enviro/epa_ballantine.html http://www.unc.edu/~meagsmch/ozone/healtheffects.htm Children playing outdoor team sports in areas of high ozone concentration could be at increased risk of developing asthma. Research suggests that they are three times more likely to develop the condition than children who do not take part in sporting activities. Our study provides evidence that, contrary to conventional wisdom, ozone is involved in the development of new onset asthma Dr Rob McConnell Asthma is the most common chronic disease of childhood and it is on the increase in developed countries. However, scientists do not know why. The new study suggests that pollution, which has long been suspected as a culprit, does indeed play a role. A team from the University of Southern California, Los Angeles, examined around 3,500 children from schools in 12 communities in southern California. During the five years of the study 265 children were diagnosed for the first time with asthma. Bigger risk Children who played three or more outdoor sports in high-ozone environments were more than three times as likely to develop asthma compared with children who did not play any sports. There was no increased risk where ozone concentrations were low. Children who spent time outside in areas with high ozone concentrations were 1.4 times more likely to develop asthma than children in areas of low ozone concentration. Other environmental pollutants such as nitrogen dioxide, particulate matter were not associated with an increased asthma risk. Researcher Dr Rob McConnell said: " Our study provides evidence that, contrary to conventional wisdom, ozone is involved in the development of new onset asthma in children who exercise heavily (and thereby increase the amount of ozone which gets into the lungs). " It is by no means conclusive proof that air pollution causes asthma, but it may be a piece of the complicated asthma puzzle. " Dr McConnell said his study should not discourage parents from encouraging their children to take part in sport. He said: " The bottom line is this: exercise is really healthy for children, for many reasons, and children should be encouraged to play team sports. " But, on days when air pollution levels are expected to be high, children should limit prolonged outdoor exertion. " Not a trigger Pollution, if shown to be a factor, may be only one amongst many Professor Martyn Partridge, chief medical adviser to the UK National Asthma Campaign, said until now most of the good scientific evidence suggests that outdoor pollution can make existing asthma worse but not actually trigger it in the first place. He told BBC News Online: " This latest study does suggest an association between outdoor pollution and the development of asthma. " However, this does not necessarily mean that one causes the other. " Pollution, if shown to be a factor, may be only one amongst many that lead to more people having this condition now than 20-30 years ago. " Nevertheless, this is a very important study adding significantly to our knowledge in this area " Ozone, an unstable molecule composed of three oxygen atoms, provides an essential shield against dangerous ultra violet radiation in the upper atmosphere. But at ground level, where it is produced from traffic fumes and industrial emissions, it is a highly toxic pollutant and a major component of city smog. The gas is corrosive to lung tissue and can damage delicate bronchial branches and air sacs. A study by the Committee on the Medical Effects of Air Pollution, a Department of Health expert advisory group, found three years ago that more than 12,000 people in Britain were dying prematurely each year because of exposure to ozone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2003 Report Share Posted June 1, 2003 Thanks for more info on ozone. Very interesting. You mentioned air pollution in relation to the rise in asthma. What bothers me more about air pollution is the incessant spraying of chemicals and other particulates into the atmosphere by the military. Every day for years, we've been bombarded with aluminum, barium and highly carcinogenic diesel fuel by these aircraft outfitted with sprayers. The comic line used to be: " Don't eat yellow snow " . Well, now it's " Don't eat snow " . Period! Don't go out in the rain either. Check your water source for these chemicals. We're actually inhaling these fibers daily. There is a petition for disclosure about this project on this website: http://www.carnicom.com/contrails.htm Learn about ELF waves and how they affect us. There is also a page on how abundant mold is in the atmosphere. This is an excerpt from this page: http://www.carnicom.com/journal.htm c> Four scenarios of the contrail phenomenon appear plausible at this time, c> noting that none of them are mutually exclusive. These are: c> c> 1. Weather Modification c> 2. Biological Testing with U.S. citizens as subjects used without permission. c> 3. Biological vaccination against a perceived or real future threat, c> with U.S. citizens used as subjects without permission. c> 4. Culling of the population, conducted on U.S. citizens without permission. Barth TOXIC MOLD SURVEY: www.presenting.net/sbs/sbssurvey.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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