Guest guest Posted March 13, 2008 Report Share Posted March 13, 2008 Mr Page As usual you typically misrepresent hyperbarics, The comments I made were in reply to a question I was asked in regard to a study in the presentation of the physicians. It used a treatment pressure that was incapable of being achieved by the soft sided chamber that was there. Additionally this chamber you are promoting now can not achieve treatment pressure to address Air Embolism decompression Illness or gas gangrene. We could argue the rest but what the hell it is hyperbarics. And you are selling a hyperbaric chamber. See what I mean?? Tom Fox **************It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL Money & Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf00030000000001) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2008 Report Share Posted March 13, 2008 Dan, By the way show me where a negative ion is an approved piece of equipment in a Hyperbaric chamber and the hyperbaric glanding which is part of the PVHO codes was intrinsically safe. Oh that's right safety codes don't apply to you. Tom **************It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL Money & Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf00030000000001) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2008 Report Share Posted March 13, 2008 There is so much more to mainstreaming hyperbarics than the little portal from which you are looking. Samir is not part of the effort that has been involved with the highest levels of the government. In the end it is all a matter of perception. If you say it enough times it will be the perception. Fortunately truth and perception are not the same thing. No amount of marketing will bridge that gap. RATIONALE AND STANDARDS are key. If you disregard the codes sooner or later it will come back to bite you. It was in particular bad taste to rent a soft chamber to a gentleman in the last stages of liver Cancer. Not cool next time, teach how to run it and how to use it so he doesn't call our clinic for instructions. Hyperbarics is a powerful therapeutic tool when used properly. If you will remember I paid for four people to attend your conference. In the end it was infomercial. That is too bad it could have been good and put to rest the snake oil perception that prevents the mainstreaming of this field. Tom **************It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL Money & Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf00030000000001) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2008 Report Share Posted March 13, 2008 Carbon Monoxide/ smoke inhalation treated in Florida by Dr Alan Speigal this fall in a Sechrist monoplace as a result of some failure in a Vitaris 32 inch soft chamber. Remember, you guys initially tried to deny it. Until it was confirmed. Are you or are not " FDA " approved. Doesn't a Serious Incident require you to report this to them? It is not fear mongering but reality. Do what is in the best interest of your customers. Maybe they should know what the circumstances behind this failure so they could take steps to prevent the same thing from happening to others. Is that Prudent? You be the Judge.. , Since when is safety a bad word. If the red warning labels of your device aren't important, why put them on?? Tom **************It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL Money & Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf00030000000001) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2008 Report Share Posted March 13, 2008 Sorry Mr Fox, the voltage of this wire was 12 V DC, not 110 AC ! The Oxyhealth chamber and setup was not mine, but even then, safety was not an issue. Thanks for your twisted logic once again. But since you know nothing about negative ions generators and their effects on health, why don't you refrain yourself from any comments about this for a change... And the last time you saw me indeed was at the autism conference in Montreal on march 16 2007. My good friend and assistant was there when I was away and heard your usual irrelevant and diffamatory comments about the portable chambers to parents at our booth. She was troubled by what she heard and couldn't believe they were said by the owner of an hyperbaric clinic. The conference was videotaped and translated both ways so we caught you trying to squeeze Dr Buckley with your cheap questions. Your arrogance in criticizing the work of all the MD's and DAN! therapist who are using the Oxyhealth chambers is a disgrace for this field. Page > > Dear Members of the list, > Tom Fox rumors Yeah right It is nice to see that hasn't lost his sense > of humour or lack of due diligience. I have not nor would participate in > any speculation this. Truth the FDA did approve Vioxx which cause thousands > of deaths. > > The FDA is a US agency and has nothing to do with the marketing of chambers > in Canada. The last time I did see Page he was displaying a Oxyhealth > chamber in a manner that placed 110Vac through a modification I am sure the > FDA would been interested in Violations of the provision of FDA 510K premarket > approval could be cause to have it revoked. > > If your attempt to insult me is to call me Mr Safety, well quite honestly > thank you. Engineering codes established for Pressure Vessels for human > occupancy do apply. It is interesting if you weren't working for Oxyhealth by > monitoring this list, Would you be demanding to know the circumstances > surrounding failure of the soft chamber that resulted in the exposure of the child > to carbon monoxide. Have there been other failures or should I go there? > Character assassinations to follow, I guess. Encouraging the use of percentages > greater than 21% oxygen is also a concern as it violates manufacturers > labeling. Are you concerned for Safety of those who purchase the soft chambers of > your benefactor , or just seeking to promote his interests at any cost. > > I have set back and watched your attacks on me and my wife, a mother of > five, the last two of which were born at 27 weeks with CP. By the way her work > and uncompensated promotion of this field started the movement which has > brought the availability of this therapy across North America. Her efforts and > the improvements seen in our children were a major part or the driving force > that brought about two research initiatives, the largest at that time in > neurologically injured children. These studies documented changes in 136 > children with CP. Did she benefit from the creation of these studies? No, study > criteria precluded the participation of our children from participating in this > study. These landmark studies have served as the framework for other studies > at least seven at last count. The improvement of CP children with autistic > tendencies was also an observation of this research. Most recently our > physician,Pierre Marois, whose involvement in this area was triggered by the advance > seen in our children has written a remarkable article which compared HBO to > other " more conventional treatments ( that are reimbursed) found that HBO is > 300% more effective in producing improvements in standardized measures. > > By the way, we just returned from two days on Capital Hill where we were > working with members of the Congressional Brain Injury Task Force to promote > mainstream acceptance of hyperbaric oxygen therapy. In the last four years our > meetings in this effort have included the White House, Pentagon, Tricare, > Secretary of the Army, numerous Senators and Congressmen and many family > members of soldiers with traumatic brain injury, parents with CP or parents of > children within the Autistic Spectrum.. > > , what are you doing to promote and forward this field that hasn't > benefited you?? The perpetuated infighting serves to do nothing prevent > acceptance of this field. I would love to see hyperbarics recognized for the valuable > therapeutic tool it is and for parents to have it covered by insurances so tha > t they wouldn't have to come out of pocket. Having two children with special > needs, I am keenly aware that there are many things vying for our economic > resources to better the quality of their lives. > > Best regards, > Tom Fox > > > > **************It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL Money & > Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf00030000000001) > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2008 Report Share Posted March 13, 2008 WELL, LOOK AT THAT...? I BET ROBERT HAS SOME HAIR BRAINED EXCUSE OR DISCERTATION FOR THAT CHECK! ........Count YOUR Blessings! Miracles happen ONLY for those who believe! For all we know, our blessings are not the fruits of our prayers alone, but those of another praying for us. And..... The task ahead of us is never as great as the power behind us. My success is measured by my willingness to keep trying. " - Anon. Marguerite... In a message dated 3/13/2008 12:28:48 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, dfreels@... writes: We have all been witness for years now as our dear friend Tom " Mr. Safety " Fox has kindly filled our hearts and minds with fear of the portable chambers. He and our other dear friend, Mr. Hartsoe have been masters at baiting each other while both have nearly suffered strokes while thoughtfully sharing their safety concerns over the use of portable chambers, claiming them to be dangerous and not really FDA-approved. (Even though " I'm-not-in-(Even thoug(Even though approves of portables--as long as he can get paid for them. See _http://www.roberthahttp://www.roberhttp_ (http://www.roberthartsoeisadamnliar.com/) ) Good news from our friend Page in Canada. Now FDA has gone and cleared yet another portable--besides the Performance Chamber--yet again granting a 510k clearance through without a single visit with Mr. Safety's precious ASME-PVHO committee review. And now this new portable chamber (The Dive) is not only FDA-approved for mountain sickness, by golly it's approved for all 13 of the UHMS approved indications as well. That means they'll be for sale in Canada too. Such news has burst more than a few capillaries in some old, hard noggins. Why, those other 13 indications require (a) 100% oxygen and ( pressures greater than 1.3 ATA. That means this chamber can be used at pressures greater than 1.3 ATA with 100% oxygen. It's heavily rumored this could mean the end of having to get HBOT in the back of a truck, as there apparently was a recent listing on eBay motors for a former money maker. It's also suspected that travel reservations have been canceled to North Carolina. Even more amazing is another expected drop in prices at a North Carolina mountain. And since The Dive chamber used the Oxyhealth chambers to gain FDA approval, why I wouldn't be surprised if Oxyhealth suddenly applied for and instantly received FDA-approval for their chambers to also be used for those same FDA and UHMS-approved 13 indications. (Did you hear that? Listen. Tilt your ear to North Carolina. Or Canada. Either way, you're bound to hear some more capillaries busting, though the sound could be drowned out by gnashing teeth.) It's feared this news is bound to give some folks a stroke just thinking about the new good-luck scenario for Oxyhealth. However, there's news across the 'net that Mr. Safety and Mr. I'mnotinitforthemonI'mnotinitforthemon<WBR>ey avoided such complic news lying down and have been stuck in their own hyperbaric chambers, pondering the future possibilities of Oxyhealth and Performance and the Dive. Just like Laurel and Hardy, as always, we do look forward to hearing from them. I think Mr. Page said it best before: > Cheers, > > Ah, yes. Cheers, DF > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > A new affordable mHBOT chamber manufactured in France by an > > > experienced company is now being offered in the USA and Canada. > > > > > > Two models are available for home use : > > > Model D (27 inches): $8 000 US > > > Model GD (40 inches) $14 000 US > > > Shipped from Minnesota > > > (www.hyperbaric- (www.hype > > > > > > They are listed with the FDA as a class II medical device, but it has > > > been approved for the 13 indications (instead of the usual Acute > > > Mountain Sickness) with no restriction on oxygen use. Flow rate > > > prevents the oxygen concentration to go above 25% when used with a > > > concentrator. (5 or 10 LPM). > > > > > > The canadian clinical version offers more advanced features which will > > > be used in a multicenter study combining mHBOT, energy medicine > > > devices, vitamins, herbs and detox for children affected by autism and > > > CP. This study is being prepared and should begin in may. > > > > > > For more informations, contact us at (418) 907-7260. > > > > > > Yours in health, > > > > > > Page > > > Planet Oxygen > > > _http://www.planet-http://ww_ (http://www.planet-oxygen.ca/) > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] **************It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL Money & Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf00030000000001) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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