Hyperbaric Therapy

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I seem to remember hearing that benefits from hyperbaric therapy (if any) are

temporary.

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> I seem to remember hearing that benefits from hyperbaric

> therapy (if any) are

> temporary.

Many of the effects appear to be temporary, but some are

longer lasting. Most protocols I've seen recommend several

courses of treatment per year.

One of the most exciting things I read was that the

partial pressure of O2 in the tissues went from nearly

zero to 50mmhg (after several months treatment) and

this pressure was maintained for up to three years!

It is proposed that this happened because HBT causes

new blood vessels grow into tissue and this is the

cause of the increased O2 in the tissue.

Before I do this I need more " eyes " and " ears " out

there. I need more info on how many atmospheres of

pressure are recommended, O2 flow rates, etc.

Any links or info is appreciated.

Patti

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Patti: Its Shell. I did hyperbaric for 9 months solid. I had a serious

andrare bone infection called Actinomycosis due to an assault that required

reconstruct surgery and pins. It was combined with IV antibiotics for nine

months. Unfortunatley its hard to determine if it was the hyperbaric or the

IV. But I can tell you this. I marketed for a hyperbaric treatment center

for a year. Here's what I know.

It is more accepted in Europe than the U.S. Some say its because the U.S.

medical market would lose alot of money if this treatment were more widely

accepted. I don't get too involved in the politics but I do think it is a

great treatment for some things that the U.S. is not utilizing it for. It is

very expensive and insurance companies Balk at it. I had a 90,000 bill which

almost didn't get paid. But I had to try it or I was going to lose my facial

structure for the second time.

There are 2 types of chambers. Monoplace which is like a singular tube you

fit in and larger ones that look like submarines where you wear a hood. I

like the singular tubes.

Its basically 100 percent oxygen which is pressurized forcing the o2 into

tissues, bloodstream and bone. Thats why its good for healing diabetic

wounds, bone infections etc. My personal feeling is that its good for fibro

patients as I have Fibro and never felt better on those treatments but its

time consuming. We usually breathe 22 percent oxygen so 100 is quite a

change. I think it is good for decubitis which older people in nursing homes

get. But if they used it some nursing homes would have alot less patients

which may be why it isn't used there. Its a shame. There is an " underground

hyperbaric unit " (ie unit in hiding) in Santa , CA from what I

understand. The one I marketed is in Beverly Hills, CA. It was a private

facility. The patiens can watch TV while being treated. Very little pain

involved except for getting used to the air pressure on your ears. It is

also a good treatment for stroke patients. If you can catch them within 24

hours , it is said to reverse brain damage. Its also good for migraines and

hang overs. hahahaha. Anyway...thats what I know...write me if you want

more info. xo Shell

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Oh by the way...i regards to temporary: I think benefits like wound healing

are permanent ie: once the wound heals...it doesn't come back unless pressure

is put back on it or reinjured or something...but benefits ie: for fatigue,

exhaustion, energy i do think are temporary...basically just during the time

(2 weeks , months) you are treating. I mean you feel good that day but not

for days or weeks after. xo Shell

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Hi \ I book I bought from amazon.com by Neubauer called

hyperbaric oxygen therapy, explains its use. I did it 20 times at my

doc's recommendation for what he thinks is the root of my symptoms, a

bone infection. it has other uses but its used in conjunction with other

treatment like antibiotics and bone debridment in my case . so far, no

let up in symptoms but I'm have not given up yet. I did it 5 days a week

for 1.5 hrs for 4 weeks at a very nice place in Mountian view ca. They

are very willing to work with folks who cant work or have no

insurance,... more info? let me know.

erik

" Skari, M " wrote:

>

> From: " Skari, M " <SkariPM@...>

>

> I am interested in hyperbaric therapy (HBT). Has anybody tried this?

>

> The reason I have not considered it in the past is the expense - ~$600/hour.

>

> At this point in time I really don't want to discuss how I'm going to do it,

> but I found out how to try this on my own with minimal expense (We

> are sharing expenses, but will probably cost about $150-$200 each for

> one month of daily treatments). Two friends of mine and I are probably

> going to try this in October.

>

> Part of my reasoning:

>

> I have hhv-6

> hhv-6 is known to cause lesions in the brain

> I suspect that this causes decreased O2 in the brain

> Brain neurons can " go to sleep " because of lack of O2, they can " wake up "

> and act as

> neurons again with enough O2

> Increased O2 decreases platelet aggregation, increases capillary formation

> Piracetam increases O2 to the brain, some PWCs have had very good results

> with it

> which may mean that anything that increases O2 to brain may be

> useful

> Increased O2 decreases substance P (assoc. with pain) and decreases NO

> (nitric oxide)

> HBT reduced HIV titers in one study

> HBT can normalise sleep/wake cycles

> I stop breathing a lot (day and night - NOT caused by snoring - I just

> simply stop breathing)

> and know this can be caused by lack of O2 in brain

> SPECT scans of PWCs often (usually?) show areas of dramatic reduction in

> blood

> flow to some parts of the brain (perhaps due to lesions?)

> SPECT scans after HBT show increased blood flow to areas with previously

> restricted flow

>

> I understand that some PWCs have benefitted from it and some have not.

>

> I am interested in any first-hand info that anybody has on this topic.

>

> Patti

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Hi ,

> Hi \ I book I bought from amazon.com by Neubauer called

> hyperbaric oxygen therapy, explains its use.

I saw this book at Amazon. Do you think its worth buying the

book? Does it say anything about renting portable HB units

and using them on your own?

> I did it 20 times at my

> doc's recommendation for what he thinks is the root of my symptoms, a

> bone infection. it has other uses but its used in conjunction

> with other

> treatment like antibiotics and bone debridment in my case . so far, no

> let up in symptoms but I'm have not given up yet.

I would have thought you would see a change for a bone infection.

Especially after seeing the amazing pictures at:

http://www.sechristind.com/cases_hbo.html

Beware, the pictures are very graphic! Not for the squeemish!

The pics look close to miraculous to me. However if your

infection is deep in the bone it may take a long time to

heal. At the previously listed URL about HBO and and Lyme

says that the antibiotics are more effective with HB treatments.

> I did it 5

> days a week

> for 1.5 hrs for 4 weeks at a very nice place in Mountian view

> ca.

Do you know what atmospheric pressure they used on you?

Did the chamber have pure O2 or did you wear an O2 mask?

Are you going to get more treatments? Did you have any

trouble with your ears? Did you notice any other

benefits? Any problems?

> They

> are very willing to work with folks who cant work or have no

> insurance,... more info? let me know.

I know people balk at giving medical advice (for good reason),

but do you think they would be open to helping me figure out

a protocol for doing this on my own (with rented chamber)?

Thanks for your input. Best of luck on your treatments.

Patti

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Patti and : I was reading your note. Did you go inside the chamber with

the hood on? If you ARE JUST WEARING a hood...but no submarine like

chamber...it is not true hyperbaric. Many lewd salesman are pushing o2

treatments for parts of the body whih o ABOSLUTELY NOTHING. True Hyperbaric

treatments treat the body SYSTEMICALLY! The only way this can happe is if

YOU EIE BODY IS PRESSURIZED. Otherwise..its is like treating a toe on a

gangrenous leg.

Hyperbaric is excellent for bone infections but the way it works is by

pressurizing the entire body...it forces the 100%o2 into the bloodstream.A

steady stream of this forces it into the bone...as there is not as many live

cells in the bone tissue.

Thats the poop.The debridements are miserable...I can really relate. I had

them. And the iv antibiotics are rough you brave soul xo Shell xoxoxoxoxox

Shell

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skari,

the book explains the different use of HOT. there is no reference to

renting a unit. theres no need to run out and buy it. I saw those

photos.( I'm not so bad off I guess). so far no change. I went to two

atmopheres, about 30psi and wore a plastic hood over my head with a seal

around by neck, I got 100% oxygen. my ears got plugged going down and up

but not a real problem. just chew gum. you can inquire at

www.bayarea-hyperbarics.com.. today i saw my dental surgeon who

recommends I do 20 more treatments. I will see my doctor and then

decide.

best,

erik

" Skari, M " wrote:

>

> From: " Skari, M " <SkariPM@...>

>

> Hi ,

>

> > Hi \ I book I bought from amazon.com by Neubauer called

> > hyperbaric oxygen therapy, explains its use.

>

> I saw this book at Amazon. Do you think its worth buying the

> book? Does it say anything about renting portable HB units

> and using them on your own?

>

> > I did it 20 times at my

> > doc's recommendation for what he thinks is the root of my symptoms, a

> > bone infection. it has other uses but its used in conjunction

> > with other

> > treatment like antibiotics and bone debridment in my case . so far, no

> > let up in symptoms but I'm have not given up yet.

>

> I would have thought you would see a change for a bone infection.

> Especially after seeing the amazing pictures at:

>

> http://www.sechristind.com/cases_hbo.html

>

> Beware, the pictures are very graphic! Not for the squeemish!

> The pics look close to miraculous to me. However if your

> infection is deep in the bone it may take a long time to

> heal. At the previously listed URL about HBO and and Lyme

> says that the antibiotics are more effective with HB treatments.

>

> > I did it 5

> > days a week

> > for 1.5 hrs for 4 weeks at a very nice place in Mountian view

> > ca.

>

> Do you know what atmospheric pressure they used on you?

> Did the chamber have pure O2 or did you wear an O2 mask?

> Are you going to get more treatments? Did you have any

> trouble with your ears? Did you notice any other

> benefits? Any problems?

>

> > They

> > are very willing to work with folks who cant work or have no

> > insurance,... more info? let me know.

>

> I know people balk at giving medical advice (for good reason),

> but do you think they would be open to helping me figure out

> a protocol for doing this on my own (with rented chamber)?

>

> Thanks for your input. Best of luck on your treatments.

>

> Patti

> --

>

> ---------------------------

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,

> the book explains the different use of HOT. there is no reference to

> renting a unit. theres no need to run out and buy it.

Thanks for the input. I think I'll give it a miss.

> today i saw my dental surgeon who

> recommends I do 20 more treatments. I will see my doctor and then

Thanks for the details. If you do more treatments, please

let us know the outcome.

Patti

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Hi,

can it also help with dental problems? I cannot get rid of them for two

months.

Thanks

Stania

Re: Hyperbaric Therapy

>From: <eml151@...>

>

>skari,

>the book explains the different use of HOT. there is no reference to

>renting a unit. theres no need to run out and buy it. I saw those

>photos.( I'm not so bad off I guess). so far no change. I went to two

>atmopheres, about 30psi and wore a plastic hood over my head with a seal

>around by neck, I got 100% oxygen. my ears got plugged going down and up

>but not a real problem. just chew gum. you can inquire at

>www.bayarea-hyperbarics.com.. today i saw my dental surgeon who

>recommends I do 20 more treatments. I will see my doctor and then

>decide.

>best,

>erik

>

>

> " Skari, M " wrote:

>>

>> From: " Skari, M " <SkariPM@...>

>>

>> Hi ,

>>

>> > Hi \ I book I bought from amazon.com by Neubauer called

>> > hyperbaric oxygen therapy, explains its use.

>>

>> I saw this book at Amazon. Do you think its worth buying the

>> book? Does it say anything about renting portable HB units

>> and using them on your own?

>>

>> > I did it 20 times at my

>> > doc's recommendation for what he thinks is the root of my symptoms, a

>> > bone infection. it has other uses but its used in conjunction

>> > with other

>> > treatment like antibiotics and bone debridment in my case . so far, no

>> > let up in symptoms but I'm have not given up yet.

>>

>> I would have thought you would see a change for a bone infection.

>> Especially after seeing the amazing pictures at:

>>

>> http://www.sechristind.com/cases_hbo.html

>>

>> Beware, the pictures are very graphic! Not for the squeemish!

>> The pics look close to miraculous to me. However if your

>> infection is deep in the bone it may take a long time to

>> heal. At the previously listed URL about HBO and and Lyme

>> says that the antibiotics are more effective with HB treatments.

>>

>> > I did it 5

>> > days a week

>> > for 1.5 hrs for 4 weeks at a very nice place in Mountian view

>> > ca.

>>

>> Do you know what atmospheric pressure they used on you?

>> Did the chamber have pure O2 or did you wear an O2 mask?

>> Are you going to get more treatments? Did you have any

>> trouble with your ears? Did you notice any other

>> benefits? Any problems?

>>

>> > They

>> > are very willing to work with folks who cant work or have no

>> > insurance,... more info? let me know.

>>

>> I know people balk at giving medical advice (for good reason),

>> but do you think they would be open to helping me figure out

>> a protocol for doing this on my own (with rented chamber)?

>>

>> Thanks for your input. Best of luck on your treatments.

>>

>> Patti

>> --

>>

>> ---------------------------

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good point, I did it in a large metal tank that looks like a large

propane tank. it had a heavy submarine like door and port holes so

I could watch videos!!

AdAgensee@... wrote:

>

> From: AdAgensee@...

>

> Patti and : I was reading your note. Did you go inside the chamber with

> the hood on? If you ARE JUST WEARING a hood...but no submarine like

> chamber...it is not true hyperbaric. Many lewd salesman are pushing o2

> treatments for parts of the body whih o ABOSLUTELY NOTHING. True Hyperbaric

> treatments treat the body SYSTEMICALLY! The only way this can happe is if

> YOU EIE BODY IS PRESSURIZED. Otherwise..its is like treating a toe on a

> gangrenous leg.

>

> Hyperbaric is excellent for bone infections but the way it works is by

> pressurizing the entire body...it forces the 100%o2 into the bloodstream.A

> steady stream of this forces it into the bone...as there is not as many live

> cells in the bone tissue.

>

> Thats the poop.The debridements are miserable...I can really relate. I had

> them. And the iv antibiotics are rough you brave soul xo Shell xoxoxoxoxox

> Shell

>

> ---------------------------

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staina

possibly, I have dental problems and my bone infection is in my jaw

bone, thats why the doctor recommended I do it.

erik

Mužiková Stanislava wrote:

>

> From: " =?iso-8859-1?B?TXWeaWtvduEgU3RhbmlzbGF2YQ==?= "

<stanislava.muzikova@...>

>

> Hi,

> can it also help with dental problems? I cannot get rid of them for two

> months.

> Thanks

> Stania

> Re: Hyperbaric Therapy

>

> >From: <eml151@...>

> >

> >skari,

> >the book explains the different use of HOT. there is no reference to

> >renting a unit. theres no need to run out and buy it. I saw those

> >photos.( I'm not so bad off I guess). so far no change. I went to two

> >atmopheres, about 30psi and wore a plastic hood over my head with a seal

> >around by neck, I got 100% oxygen. my ears got plugged going down and up

> >but not a real problem. just chew gum. you can inquire at

> >www.bayarea-hyperbarics.com.. today i saw my dental surgeon who

> >recommends I do 20 more treatments. I will see my doctor and then

> >decide.

> >best,

> >erik

> >

> >

> > " Skari, M " wrote:

> >>

> >> From: " Skari, M " <SkariPM@...>

> >>

> >> Hi ,

> >>

> >> > Hi \ I book I bought from amazon.com by Neubauer called

> >> > hyperbaric oxygen therapy, explains its use.

> >>

> >> I saw this book at Amazon. Do you think its worth buying the

> >> book? Does it say anything about renting portable HB units

> >> and using them on your own?

> >>

> >> > I did it 20 times at my

> >> > doc's recommendation for what he thinks is the root of my symptoms, a

> >> > bone infection. it has other uses but its used in conjunction

> >> > with other

> >> > treatment like antibiotics and bone debridment in my case . so far, no

> >> > let up in symptoms but I'm have not given up yet.

> >>

> >> I would have thought you would see a change for a bone infection.

> >> Especially after seeing the amazing pictures at:

> >>

> >> http://www.sechristind.com/cases_hbo.html

> >>

> >> Beware, the pictures are very graphic! Not for the squeemish!

> >> The pics look close to miraculous to me. However if your

> >> infection is deep in the bone it may take a long time to

> >> heal. At the previously listed URL about HBO and and Lyme

> >> says that the antibiotics are more effective with HB treatments.

> >>

> >> > I did it 5

> >> > days a week

> >> > for 1.5 hrs for 4 weeks at a very nice place in Mountian view

> >> > ca.

> >>

> >> Do you know what atmospheric pressure they used on you?

> >> Did the chamber have pure O2 or did you wear an O2 mask?

> >> Are you going to get more treatments? Did you have any

> >> trouble with your ears? Did you notice any other

> >> benefits? Any problems?

> >>

> >> > They

> >> > are very willing to work with folks who cant work or have no

> >> > insurance,... more info? let me know.

> >>

> >> I know people balk at giving medical advice (for good reason),

> >> but do you think they would be open to helping me figure out

> >> a protocol for doing this on my own (with rented chamber)?

> >>

> >> Thanks for your input. Best of luck on your treatments.

> >>

> >> Patti

> >> --

> >>

> >> ---------------------------

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In a message dated 9/16/99 5:18:41 PM Pacific Daylight Time, eml151@...

writes:

<< From: <eml151@...>

good point, I did it in a large metal tank that looks like a large

propane tank. it had a heavy submarine like door and port holes so

I could watch videos!!

>>

Hey : The people atmy hyperbaric chamber would fast forward throught the

commercials on my soap operas!!!!! Can you top that one?!!! hahaah Shell

[Guest guest]

: Hyperbaric Oxygen in a monoplace chamber or in a pressurized chamber

with a hood is used for people who have dental implants often because bone is

involved. It is quite effective for that. Many oral surgeons

(periodontists????) recommend it. xo Shell

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now thats what I call good customer service!!

AdAgensee@... wrote:

>

> From: AdAgensee@...

>

> In a message dated 9/16/99 5:18:41 PM Pacific Daylight Time, eml151@...

> writes:

>

> << From: <eml151@...>

>

> good point, I did it in a large metal tank that looks like a large

> propane tank. it had a heavy submarine like door and port holes so

> I could watch videos!!

> >>

> Hey : The people atmy hyperbaric chamber would fast forward throught the

> commercials on my soap operas!!!!! Can you top that one?!!! hahaah Shell

>

> ---------------------------

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Patti:

I forgot to say that after my friend had 10 treatments, she had a bad

relapse, but up until then she did feel somewhat better.

Dianne

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Yes! Owen did 40 hours at ProHBO in Marietta in Nov/Dec 2006. It is the best thing we've done for him biomedically so far. Big improvements in attention, calmness, receptive speech, and he is finally toilet trained for all functions

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I have friends in VA who tried it with two of their children & didn't

see any improvements. One of their children actually regressed for a

few months. However I have other friends in VA & DE who tried it with

their kids & their children made lots of improvement & they swear buy

it. I guess it's like most other things out there it may work for some

& may not work for others.

Wendie

>

> Has anyone tried hyperbaric therapy? Did it help?/Ray

>

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there are several families on the NFASG group (north fulton) that

have tried this. i did 3 dives (about 15minutes each) with my then

4yo who couldnt tolerate the high pitched noise from the o2 being

pumped in or the confined space.

that said, i felt much better after the brief dives and may

eventually do it for my autoimmune issues. for my son, it didnt work

out.

from what i have heard over the past 2yrs about hbot. its not a

cure, or what one should spend money on before doing other things.

but rather one that after you have done all the other things you wish

to to help your child. many compare it to a massage, it feels great

for the first few days after, but it requires repeat massages for the

same relief. hope this info helps. hugs

>

> Has anyone tried hyperbaric therapy? Did it help?/Ray

>

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THANKYOU FOR THE REPLY/RAY

Re: hyperbaric therapy

there are several families on the NFASG group (north fulton) that have tried this. i did 3 dives (about 15minutes each) with my then 4yo who couldnt tolerate the high pitched noise from the o2 being pumped in or the confined space.that said, i felt much better after the brief dives and may eventually do it for my autoimmune issues. for my son, it didnt work out. from what i have heard over the past 2yrs about hbot. its not a cure, or what one should spend money on before doing other things. but rather one that after you have done all the other things you wish to to help your child. many compare it to a massage, it feels great for the first few days after, but it requires repeat massages for the same relief. hope this info helps. hugs >> Has anyone tried hyperbaric therapy? Did it help?/Ray> > ---------------------------------> Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Travel.>

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Has anyone done this therapy on a child with Down syndrome and autism?

Have you seen any improvements? Cyndi

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Cyndi,

My daughter, who is 18, has Downs and autism. I took her for HBOT a year

ago. I did notice changes, though they were subtle. I would love to get

her another 40 treatments soon. We noticed things like increased

cognitive awareness. She just seemed more " with it " . She would zip

through her puzzles and match games much more quickly. She slept better

at night during treatment, and she never balked at going into the tank.

It was a multi-place.

is non-verbal. We didn't gain language from it, but I think with

more treatments, that would probably come. I noticed the most difference

about 6 weeks after treatment. Her speech therapist, who is also a good

friend, really seemed to catch the difference in her awareness level.

Hope this helps.

Vicki

> -------- Original Message --------

>

> Has anyone done this therapy on a child with Down syndrome and autism?

> Have you seen any improvements? Cyndi

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Cyndi,

We have treated kiddos with Down's and kids with autism. I have a

couple of testimonials on our website. www.hhi-kc.com

- Deister CHT

Hyperbaric Healing Institute & Beyond Therapy

10060 NW Prairie View Road

Kansas City, MO 64153

(816)801-7878

www.hhi-kc.com

>

> Has anyone done this therapy on a child with Down syndrome and

autism?

> Have you seen any improvements? Cyndi

>

[Guest guest]

Vicki, Thanks so much for taking time to share your story with me. I

am glad to know you had positive results. Thanks Cyndi

>

> Cyndi,

>

> My daughter, who is 18, has Downs and autism. I took her for HBOT a

year

> ago. I did notice changes, though they were subtle. I would love to

get

> her another 40 treatments soon. We noticed things like increased

> cognitive awareness. She just seemed more " with it " . She would zip

> through her puzzles and match games much more quickly. She slept

better

> at night during treatment, and she never balked at going into the

tank.

> It was a multi-place.

>

> is non-verbal. We didn't gain language from it, but I think

with

> more treatments, that would probably come. I noticed the most

difference

> about 6 weeks after treatment. Her speech therapist, who is also a

good

> friend, really seemed to catch the difference in her awareness

level.

>

> Hope this helps.

>

> Vicki

>

>

> > -------- Original Message --------

> >

> > Has anyone done this therapy on a child with Down syndrome and

autism?

> > Have you seen any improvements? Cyndi

>