Re: Re: Congress & Funding- Point Blank Facts

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In a message dated 8/27/03 6:23:30 PM Eastern Daylight Time, donald.jacobs6@... writes:

This is a political issue, not a technical issue. There is plenty of

information on the toxic nature of molds and their myotoxins. We need to

flood our politicians with demands.

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E. s

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Macrobiotic Counselor

Reiki Practitioner

Professional Speaker

The Senators of my state have been flooded with info from me. No help. Its Federal. Im in Maine and Washington has called the shipyard about hiding me. I feel as if they are all in bed together and I hate feeling like I will never vote again.

Janet

[Guest guest]

Do these help? My Senators didnt take it seriously...all the way up to the Secretary of the Navy. NOTHING

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[Guest guest]

This is a political issue, not a technical issue. There is plenty of

information on the toxic nature of molds and their myotoxins. We need to

flood our politicians with demands.

--

E. s

Registered Massage Therapist

Macrobiotic Counselor

Reiki Practitioner

Professional Speaker

> Dr. Gray has a database of surveys and patient information. Maybe

> there is a way to get people's consent because that would be a lot of

> evidence.

>

> I was thinking some scientific evidence/studies like I listed, a nice

> visual picture of the nose & pineal region with a description of the

> areas the pineal region is responsible for, and then tons of patient

> data to back it up.

>

> Anyway just some ideas for an approach. Have a great day!

>

>

>

> > A lot of people are uneducated about mold making people sick. If

> > people were educated there would be funding (when you see someone's

> > house burn down on the news they get funding yet we do not), there

> > would be a cure, and frankly there would be no SARS. (SARS- Fecal

> > matter water leak)

> >

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[Guest guest]

Dear Debra,

I am doing exactly what you are. Even with my Dad. My boyfriend of ten years basically through me out of his house because he couldnt handle my illness. I hear your pain and suffering as I do my own.

People dont get it. I get very fraustrated with my Dad. He just....I dont know, but I had to write and tell you I feel your shoes. For a year now.

God Bless you,

Janet

[Guest guest]

Dear . I am sorry to hear your story. I am at the stage where disability and workmens comp have denied me. I assume they are going to order me back to work and I am scared as hell.

God Bless,

Janet

[Guest guest]

,

I keep fighting for teleworking at home but am hitting brick walls. I go back there I die. But I cant afford to give up 37,000 a year. I am sending a child,and I am a single mom, to college tomorrow.

Janet

[Guest guest]

I have those very same questions but no answers. It really sucks because either we are limited to where we can work or we can't work at all. I am so frustrated I could just sh!%. I have lost all faith in myself due to not being able to work. As if this isn't enough my own dad doesn't comprehend or thinks I am just full of it due to my problems. All he can say is "you need to get a job" or hands me clippings of jobs. Talk about a slap in the face!!!! He is 70 years old and gets around really well and is in good health and can't understand why I have so many problems....duh!!!! I have tried to get disability and that's a big laugh. So, I am going to have to go to an Environmental Specialist and figure out how to pay that plus a lung specialist!!! We have medical insurance but insurance doesn't pay all and in some cases doesn't pay for certain things. I know that Carroll wants me to write to Congress which is fine after I figure out what to write but that doesn't help my situation at this point. I suppose if it doesn't help us it could help our kids, friends, etc. Sorry to cry me a river but I just had to unload. Has anyone else had a friend or relative react to you in a similar way? If you have then you exactly know what I am talking about. Luckily my husband understands...he has allergies to dust and they are not severe like my allergies are to mold.

Thanks for listening,

Debra

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From:

Date: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 09:24:07 PM

Subject: [] Re: Congress & Funding- Point Blank Facts

> I hear all your cases and feel for all of us. The thing is how can we all of us affected by mold unite to be heard and get the help both financial and medical that we deserve? There has to be a way, because even though we might be on the right track to healing, many others are still uninformed, suffering from something totally unknown to them without reciving any assistance from anyone. I have lost so much money already dealing with this, and my health was severly affected due to toxicity. But I didn't even know what I had. I went to the Drs. and they just gave me something for allergies. Then I was diagnosed with asthma and the medication for it sent me to the emergency room, since apparently I developed sensitivity to different chemicals (or maybe the meds were just too strong?). Howcome Drs. don't know that exposure to mold causes these reactions to chemicals? I am still looking for a place, dealing with my roommate who doesn't want to break the contract (since she seems to be unaffected, but has been "tired" and "moody" lately). Why can't people recognize this can ruin people's lives? Howcome, as you all have mentioned at some point, there is no assistance for these emergencies? I would think this is perfect idea for creating a non-profit dedicated to raise funds to assist those victims of mold - however, if even our families and friends and neighbors don't believe this to be a problem, how can we even start to raise awareness about the importance of helping mold victims? And why is it that people try to deny so much that mold causes health problems?FAIR USE NOTICE:This site contains copyrighted material the use of which has not always been specifically authorized by the copyright owner. We are making such material available in our efforts to advance understanding of environmental, political, human rights, economic, democracy, scientific, and social justice issues, etc. We believe this constitutes a 'fair use' of any such copyrighted material as provided for in section 107 of the US Copyright Law. In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, the material on this site is distributed without profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for research and educational purposes. For more information go to: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml. If you wish to use copyrighted material from this site for purposes of your own that go beyond 'fair use', you must obtain permission from the copyright owner.

[Guest guest]

I suspect that half of the people on this group have a similar story.

I worked in industry for 29 years. After moving to Texas, my blood

pressure started going up. After going to an Environmental doctor, we

determined that I was reacting to molds, pollen, chemicals, etc. I was

able to keep my BP at reasonable levels with diet, immunization shots to

allergens, air filters & ionizers, etc.

When my employer sent me to work part time at one of their manufacturing

sites, my BP was high all of the time. The results of RBC blood tests

showed that I had gone from trace amounts of mercury to extremely toxic

levels. I detoxified from the mercury and my BP was normal all of the

time. Six months later, my employer sent me back to that manufacturing

site and high BP all over again. An RBC blood test came back with

extremely high levels of mercury, again. Since I was at this site all of

the time, I also became chemically sensitive, too.

I put in for disability. The disability insurance company did not

consider this a disability (thinking, ability to concentrate, etc. was

not as important to them as lifting up a 40 pound box). I put in for

worker's comp, who keeps on losing my paperwork and telling me it is my

fault. My employer ordered me back to work or be fired, even though my

doctor ordered me not to go back to work. I showed up for work so that

my employer could officially lay me off.

At that point, I had no job, no " health care " insurance, and was too

sick to work. I detoxified myself and then looked into working for

myself, since I had to have control over the workplace environment. That

is when I became a massage therapist.

It took over a year to get to the point where I could work part time,

but it still does not support me. The laws regarding Texas Workers Comp

were changed in the nineties to favor business, because paying claims

was too expensive for business to operate in the state of Texas. Now,

you can become totally disabled and they just laugh at you.

Mercury poisoning and a mold exposure did me in, but who cares. The only

reason that I am alive today, is I learned ancient art of detoxification

and did it on myself.

Everyone on this group should read " Chemical Sensitivity " and " Defining

Multiple Chemical Sensitivities " by Bonnye s.

--

E. s

Registered Massage Therapist

Macrobiotic Counselor

Reiki Practitioner

Professional Speaker

> I have those very same questions but no answers. It really sucks

> because either we are limited to where we can work or we can't work at

> all. I am so frustrated I could just sh!%. I have lost all faith in

> myself due to not being able to work. As if this isn't enough my own

> dad doesn't comprehend or thinks I am just full of it due to my

> problems. All he can say is " you need to get a job " or hands

> me clippings of jobs. Talk about a slap in the face!!!! He is 70

> years old and gets around really well and is in good health and can't

> understand why I have so many problems....duh!!!! I have tried to get

> disability and that's a big laugh. So, I am going to have to go to an

> Environmental Specialist and figure out how to pay that plus a lung

> specialist!!! We have medical insurance but insurance doesn't pay all

> and in some cases doesn't pay for certain things. I know that

> Carroll wants me to write to Congress which is fine after I figure out

> what to write but that doesn't help my situation at this point. I

> suppose if it doesn't help us it could help our kids, friends, etc.

> Sorry to cry me a river but I just had to unload. Has anyone else had

> a friend or relative react to you in a similar way? If you have then

> you exactly know what I am talking about. Luckily my husband

> understands...he has allergies to dust and they are not severe like my

> allergies are to mold.

>

> Thanks for listening,

>

> Debra

>

> -------Original Message-------

>

> From: <mailto: >

> Date: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 09:24:07 PM

> <mailto: >

> Subject: [] Re: Congress & Funding- Point Blank Facts

>

>

> >

>

> I hear all your cases and feel for all of us. The thing is how can

> we all of us affected by mold unite to be heard and get the help both

> financial and medical that we deserve? There has to be a way, because

> even though we might be on the right track to healing, many others

> are still uninformed, suffering from something totally unknown to

> them without reciving any assistance from anyone. I have lost so much

> money already dealing with this, and my health was severly affected

> due to toxicity. But I didn't even know what I had. I went to the

> Drs. and they just gave me something for allergies. Then I was

> diagnosed with asthma and the medication for it sent me to the

> emergency room, since apparently I developed sensitivity to different

> chemicals (or maybe the meds were just too strong?). Howcome Drs.

> don't know that exposure to mold causes these reactions to chemicals?

> I am still looking for a place, dealing with my roommate who doesn't

> want to break the contract (since she seems to be unaffected, but has

> been " tired " and " moody " lately). Why can't people recognize this can

> ruin people's lives? Howcome, as you all have mentioned at some

> point, there is no assistance for these emergencies? I would think

> this is perfect idea for creating a non-profit dedicated to raise

> funds to assist those victims of mold - however, if even our families

> and friends and neighbors don't believe this to be a problem, how can

> we even start to raise awareness about the importance of helping mold

> victims? And why is it that people try to deny so much that mold

> causes health problems?

[Guest guest]

Janet,

Thanks for writing back. I am so sorry about what your boyfriend did...that's really rotten. But still how in the heck does anyone go to these specialists and pay for these things? I have been needing to go but I keep putting it off because I don't want anymore bills!!!! Just trying to live week to week is a pain. With only my husband working money just doesn't go very far. He works all the overtime he can and any odd jobs. Sometimes I just feel like saying to he#% with it. If it weren't for my husband, my kids, my animals and this group I don't know.....

Debra

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From:

Date: Thursday, August 28, 2003 08:20:24 AM

Subject: Re: [] Re: Congress & Funding- Point Blank Facts

Dear Debra, I am doing exactly what you are. Even with my Dad. My boyfriend of ten years basically through me out of his house because he couldnt handle my illness. I hear your pain and suffering as I do my own.People dont get it. I get very fraustrated with my Dad. He just....I dont know, but I had to write and tell you I feel your shoes. For a year now.God Bless you,Janet FAIR USE NOTICE:This site contains copyrighted material the use of which has not always been specifically authorized by the copyright owner. We are making such material available in our efforts to advance understanding of environmental, political, human rights, economic, democracy, scientific, and social justice issues, etc. We believe this constitutes a 'fair use' of any such copyrighted material as provided for in section 107 of the US Copyright Law. In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, the material on this site is distributed without profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for research and educational purposes. For more information go to: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml. If you wish to use copyrighted material from this site for purposes of your own that go beyond 'fair use', you must obtain permission from the copyright owner.

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the post. I need to get the book you mentioned... detoxifying would probably help.

Debra

-------Original Message-------

From:

Date: Thursday, August 28, 2003 08:57:09 AM

Subject: Re: [] Re: Congress & Funding- Point Blank Facts

I suspect that half of the people on this group have a similar story.I worked in industry for 29 years. After moving to Texas, my blood pressure started going up. After going to an Environmental doctor, we determined that I was reacting to molds, pollen, chemicals, etc. I was able to keep my BP at reasonable levels with diet, immunization shots to allergens, air filters & ionizers, etc.When my employer sent me to work part time at one of their manufacturing sites, my BP was high all of the time. The results of RBC blood tests showed that I had gone from trace amounts of mercury to extremely toxic levels. I detoxified from the mercury and my BP was normal all of the time. Six months later, my employer sent me back to that manufacturing site and high BP all over again. An RBC blood test came back with extremely high levels of mercury, again. Since I was at this site all of the time, I also became chemically sensitive, too.I put in for disability. The disability insurance company did not consider this a disability (thinking, ability to concentrate, etc. was not as important to them as lifting up a 40 pound box). I put in for worker's comp, who keeps on losing my paperwork and telling me it is my fault. My employer ordered me back to work or be fired, even though my doctor ordered me not to go back to work. I showed up for work so that my employer could officially lay me off.At that point, I had no job, no "health care" insurance, and was too sick to work. I detoxified myself and then looked into working for myself, since I had to have control over the workplace environment. That is when I became a massage therapist.It took over a year to get to the point where I could work part time, but it still does not support me. The laws regarding Texas Workers Comp were changed in the nineties to favor business, because paying claims was too expensive for business to operate in the state of Texas. Now, you can become totally disabled and they just laugh at you.Mercury poisoning and a mold exposure did me in, but who cares. The only reason that I am alive today, is I learned ancient art of detoxification and did it on myself.Everyone on this group should read "Chemical Sensitivity" and "Defining Multiple Chemical Sensitivities" by Bonnye s.-- E. sRegistered Massage TherapistMacrobiotic CounselorReiki PractitionerProfessional Speaker> I have those very same questions but no answers. It really sucks > because either we are limited to where we can work or we can't work at > all. I am so frustrated I could just sh!%. I have lost all faith in > myself due to not being able to work. As if this isn't enough my own > dad doesn't comprehend or thinks I am just full of it due to my > problems. All he can say is "you need to get a job" or hands > me clippings of jobs. Talk about a slap in the face!!!! He is 70 > years old and gets around really well and is in good health and can't > understand why I have so many problems....duh!!!! I have tried to get > disability and that's a big laugh. So, I am going to have to go to an > Environmental Specialist and figure out how to pay that plus a lung > specialist!!! We have medical insurance but insurance doesn't pay all > and in some cases doesn't pay for certain things. I know that > Carroll wants me to write to Congress which is fine after I figure out > what to write but that doesn't help my situation at this point. I > suppose if it doesn't help us it could help our kids, friends, etc. > Sorry to cry me a river but I just had to unload. Has anyone else had > a friend or relative react to you in a similar way? If you have then > you exactly know what I am talking about. Luckily my husband > understands...he has allergies to dust and they are not severe like my > allergies are to mold.> > Thanks for listening,> > Debra> > -------Original Message-------> > From: <mailto: >> Date: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 09:24:07 PM> <mailto: >> Subject: [] Re: Congress & Funding- Point Blank Facts> > > >>> I hear all your cases and feel for all of us. The thing is how can> we all of us affected by mold unite to be heard and get the help both> financial and medical that we deserve? There has to be a way, because> even though we might be on the right track to healing, many others> are still uninformed, suffering from something totally unknown to> them without reciving any assistance from anyone. I have lost so much> money already dealing with this, and my health was severly affected> due to toxicity. But I didn't even know what I had. I went to the> Drs. and they just gave me something for allergies. Then I was> diagnosed with asthma and the medication for it sent me to the> emergency room, since apparently I developed sensitivity to different> chemicals (or maybe the meds were just too strong?). Howcome Drs.> don't know that exposure to mold causes these reactions to chemicals?> I am still looking for a place, dealing with my roommate who doesn't> want to break the contract (since she seems to be unaffected, but has> been "tired" and "moody" lately). Why can't people recognize this can> ruin people's lives? Howcome, as you all have mentioned at some> point, there is no assistance for these emergencies? I would think> this is perfect idea for creating a non-profit dedicated to raise> funds to assist those victims of mold - however, if even our families> and friends and neighbors don't believe this to be a problem, how can> we even start to raise awareness about the importance of helping mold> victims? And why is it that people try to deny so much that mold> causes health problems?FAIR USE NOTICE:This site contains copyrighted material the use of which has not always been specifically authorized by the copyright owner. We are making such material available in our efforts to advance understanding of environmental, political, human rights, economic, democracy, scientific, and social justice issues, etc. We believe this constitutes a 'fair use' of any such copyrighted material as provided for in section 107 of the US Copyright Law. In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, the material on this site is distributed without profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for research and educational purposes. For more information go to: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml. If you wish to use copyrighted material from this site for purposes of your own that go beyond 'fair use', you must obtain permission from the copyright owner.

[Guest guest]

Janet,

When mercury levels went high again, I knew that going back to work

would be signing my own death warrant. I make a decision that day, when

the blood test came back, that my health was worth more than a $75,000 a

year job.

Unfortunately, I waited for my health to get so bad before leaving the

employer (who could care less about me), that by then, I could not work.

--

E. s

Registered Massage Therapist

Macrobiotic Counselor

Reiki Practitioner

Professional Speaker

> Dear . I am sorry to hear your story. I am at the stage where

> disability and workmens comp have denied me. I assume they are going

> to order me back to work and I am scared as hell.

> God Bless,

> Janet

[Guest guest]

Even world renown experts in Environmental medicine are considered

quacks in the eyes of insurance companies when it comes to paying out

for disability claims. You should see the " kind " words they had for my

doctor (Dr. Rea).

--

E. s

Registered Massage Therapist

Macrobiotic Counselor

Reiki Practitioner

Professional Speaker

> Kathie,

>

> Thanks for writing. I know " one thing at a time " but in order for me

> to even try to get disability I need to go to an environmental

> specialist. I have already tried with just using my allergist but I

> am just not considered disabled in their eyes.

[Guest guest]

Janet,

You mean going back to that mold hole you worked in for the government? I hope that is not what you meant. I have read posts and see what you worked in. You have a daughter to think about too. By the way...Congratulations on your daughter gong to college you must be very proud. I hope and pray that my 2 kids can go to college because I don't know where the money will come from.

Debra

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From:

Date: Thursday, August 28, 2003 09:18:11 AM

Subject: Re: [] Re: Congress & Funding- Point Blank Facts

Dear . I am sorry to hear your story. I am at the stage where disability and workmens comp have denied me. I assume they are going to order me back to work and I am scared as hell.God Bless,Janet FAIR USE NOTICE:This site contains copyrighted material the use of which has not always been specifically authorized by the copyright owner. We are making such material available in our efforts to advance understanding of environmental, political, human rights, economic, democracy, scientific, and social justice issues, etc. We believe this constitutes a 'fair use' of any such copyrighted material as provided for in section 107 of the US Copyright Law. In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, the material on this site is distributed without profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for research and educational purposes. For more information go to: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml. If you wish to use copyrighted material from this site for purposes of your own that go beyond 'fair use', you must obtain permission from the copyright owner.

[Guest guest]

,

I ordered that book by Bonnie s from Amazon.com I am amazed on how much a new book costs...$40.00 but, if anyone else is interested they have some used for $7 on up. I order used CD's from here and haven't had any problems. They have a lot of books too.

Debra

-------Original Message-------

From:

Date: Thursday, August 28, 2003 08:57:09 AM

Subject: Re: [] Re: Congress & Funding- Point Blank Facts

I suspect that half of the people on this group have a similar story.I worked in industry for 29 years. After moving to Texas, my blood pressure started going up. After going to an Environmental doctor, we determined that I was reacting to molds, pollen, chemicals, etc. I was able to keep my BP at reasonable levels with diet, immunization shots to allergens, air filters & ionizers, etc.When my employer sent me to work part time at one of their manufacturing sites, my BP was high all of the time. The results of RBC blood tests showed that I had gone from trace amounts of mercury to extremely toxic levels. I detoxified from the mercury and my BP was normal all of the time. Six months later, my employer sent me back to that manufacturing site and high BP all over again. An RBC blood test came back with extremely high levels of mercury, again. Since I was at this site all of the time, I also became chemically sensitive, too.I put in for disability. The disability insurance company did not consider this a disability (thinking, ability to concentrate, etc. was not as important to them as lifting up a 40 pound box). I put in for worker's comp, who keeps on losing my paperwork and telling me it is my fault. My employer ordered me back to work or be fired, even though my doctor ordered me not to go back to work. I showed up for work so that my employer could officially lay me off.At that point, I had no job, no "health care" insurance, and was too sick to work. I detoxified myself and then looked into working for myself, since I had to have control over the workplace environment. That is when I became a massage therapist.It took over a year to get to the point where I could work part time, but it still does not support me. The laws regarding Texas Workers Comp were changed in the nineties to favor business, because paying claims was too expensive for business to operate in the state of Texas. Now, you can become totally disabled and they just laugh at you.Mercury poisoning and a mold exposure did me in, but who cares. The only reason that I am alive today, is I learned ancient art of detoxification and did it on myself.Everyone on this group should read "Chemical Sensitivity" and "Defining Multiple Chemical Sensitivities" by Bonnye s.-- E. sRegistered Massage TherapistMacrobiotic CounselorReiki PractitionerProfessional Speaker>

FAIR USE NOTICE:This site contains copyrighted material the use of which has not always been specifically authorized by the copyright owner. We are making such material available in our efforts to advance understanding of environmental, political, human rights, economic, democracy, scientific, and social justice issues, etc. We believe this constitutes a 'fair use' of any such copyrighted material as provided for in section 107 of the US Copyright Law. In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, the material on this site is distributed without profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for research and educational purposes. For more information go to: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml. If you wish to use copyrighted material from this site for purposes of your own that go beyond 'fair use', you must obtain permission from the copyright owner.