Re: HBOT and flying on airplane/Wayne's remarks

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the information, Wayne.  Szymonski-Blackberry is a font of

misinformation--I wish you would think before you post so often--maybe it would

be better for all of us if your Blackberry wasn't so readily at hand--didn't you

just recently mis-inform us that there have been " NO FIRES " in HBOT chambers

since the 1998 report was published?  

This doesn't seem to prevent you from attacking anyone and everyone, in this

case gratutiously it seems to me.  I don't see anything in Wayne's remarks to

which anyone should take offense.  There are quite a few FDA-approved

indications for HBOT which have been researched, and the medical consensus seems

to support higher pressures for certain indications. 

Just to clarify why I'm posting:  I'm writing as a TBI survivor who advocates

for HBOT.  I've had treatment in an Oxyhealth " Baby Blue " hard chamber at 1.5

ATM, which seems to be the standard protocol advocated by a number of medical

HBOT experts.  I don't own a chamber, sell anything, or run an HBOT clinic.  I'm

a consumer (and have medical and PADI training, incidentally.)   I believe there

is a place for soft chambers as well as hard chambers. I realize that soft

chambers have slightly lower pressures--ie 1.3 ATM, and that many people will

get initial treatment at 1.5 ATM for such conditions, then get a soft chamber

for additional treatments, because that also seems to be effective, and is less

costly.

 I also believe that the better researched the subject, (in this case HBOT) and

the more medically sound the research is, the better it will be accepted.  My

concerns here are two-fold:  insurance reimbursement so that those who need it

do not have to use up their life-savings to get treatment, as I have, and

secondly, safety.

Regarding fire in HBOT chambers (as I've brought it up once again)--it is and

should be rare--and is easily avoided by following accepted protocols for HBOT

and oxygen;  discussing fires is not, in my opinion, meant to be a scare tactic,

and I consider it an attempt to inform, and hope that people would understand

that it is meant as such, and in no way meant to scare people away from

considering HBOT treatment when it may be life-changing--the results of HBOT can

be miraculous.

I would like to add as a general comment:  I think healthy debate leads to

better information; however, it is never helpful to engage in name-calling, or

derogatory remarks about people's intelligence, no matter how annoying some

contributors to this list may be at times.  It is also a good idea to remember

that some people posting here have neurologic deficits which may affect their

spelling or punctuation, for example.

Other people say outrageous things with no obvious excuse--as long as their

comments are not harmful--misinformation, for example--I just try to make

judicious use of the " delete " button and shrug it off.  I feel sorry for the

average new person just trying to find good information for their child or

themselves;  wading through the politics and the grudge matches on this site is

truly bewildering....

From: szymonski@... <szymonski@...>

Subject: Re: [ ] HBOT and flying on airplane

medicaid

Date: Wednesday, October 8, 2008, 9:30 AM

That is funny, as I have seen many of these conditions treated with

great success at 1.3 ATA, some at 1.5. The studies do not always show the whole

truth, depends on the persons doing the study and that persons motivation behind

the study.

I am happy for you that you know all there is about HBOT. May I suggest that

you would be a much better caregiver if you would step out of your comfort zone

and find out for yourself what works, instead of believing everything that you

read.

Now, let me ask you what your motivation is that you so aggressively attack the

use of lower pressure? And do not tell me it is because they do not work, as

most of us know they do.

Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

Re: [ ] HBOT and flying on airplane

If you were as experienced in hyperbarics as you attempt to convince people

of on line, you would know that there are several indications where the

pressure the patient is treated is important. Are you saying that you would

treat

CO poisoning, anaerobic infections, AGE, radiation injuries, mycoses

infections, as well as DCS at 1.3 to 1.5 ATA? I suppose Marx studies in these

areas

don't mean much. Also there is no chance of developing DCS flying after

being treated in a true HBO environment, where there is an a small chance of it

happening when being treated in " mild hyperbarics " with less than 100% oxygen

(depending on the time at pressure and the numbers of treatments). Just check

the dive tables.

As for calling names, that did not happen. What happened is questioning

your literacy, which I would do for anyone that jumps into a conversation

without

reviewing what had been being discussed.

Wayne D. McHowell, RN, BSN, ONC, CHRNA

In a message dated 9/30/08 12:12:49 AM, szymonski (DOT) com writes:

& gt; If you idiots would quit treating patients at such high pressures you

& gt; wouldn't have any problems with decompression issues and flying. If you

were

& gt; treating at 1.3 to 1.5 ATA, you would have no problems with flying, or any

of the

& gt; other negative side affects associated with the high pressures.

& gt;

& gt; Oh, look there, I can call names and make insults as well. Leave the name

& gt; calling out of this post, as we all get no where with it.

& gt;

& gt;

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[Guest guest]

,

I do not know of any actual fires, in the US, in the last 10 years. If there

have been, please enlighten me. Also, I do not believe I made that comment.

However, a lot of the fire talk stems from Tom Fox and his claim against Oxy

Health.

As far as fires go, there will always be a risk, regardless of the equipment

used. You are correct in that the best we can do is on the side of human error

(training, operating practices, common sense, etc).

Second, I am not promoting portable chambers. I am promoting the use of 1.3 to

1.5 ATA (in most cases) as it is an effective and safer operating practice than

the use of higher pressures. This does not mean using portables.

If I have given out what you think is bad information, please share with me what

was incorrect with anything I have said.

Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

Re: [ ] HBOT and flying on airplane

If you were as experienced in hyperbarics as you attempt to convince people

of on line, you would know that there are several indications where the

pressure the patient is treated is important. Are you saying that you would

treat

CO poisoning, anaerobic infections, AGE, radiation injuries, mycoses

infections, as well as DCS at 1.3 to 1.5 ATA? I suppose Marx studies in these

areas

don't mean much. Also there is no chance of developing DCS flying after

being treated in a true HBO environment, where there is an a small chance of it

happening when being treated in " mild hyperbarics " with less than 100% oxygen

(depending on the time at pressure and the numbers of treatments). Just check

the dive tables.

As for calling names, that did not happen. What happened is questioning

your literacy, which I would do for anyone that jumps into a conversation

without

reviewing what had been being discussed.

Wayne D. McHowell, RN, BSN, ONC, CHRNA

In a message dated 9/30/08 12:12:49 AM, szymonski (DOT) com writes:

& gt; If you idiots would quit treating patients at such high pressures you

& gt; wouldn't have any problems with decompression issues and flying. If you

were

& gt; treating at 1.3 to 1.5 ATA, you would have no problems with flying, or any

of the

& gt; other negative side affects associated with the high pressures.

& gt;

& gt; Oh, look there, I can call names and make insults as well. Leave the name

& gt; calling out of this post, as we all get no where with it.

& gt;

& gt;

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