Guest guest Posted October 29, 2008 Report Share Posted October 29, 2008 To all: The following is a post from Hartsoe. It is amazing how paranoid a person can get when the truth hurts, especially when it hurts your pocket book. I am sure many of you have seen some posts by the person calling themselves hbot truth. That person claims to have met with other parents and decided they cannot get the truth because of all the different posts they see on the medicaidhbot group, NeuroHBOT, and HDOTherapyforAustism groups. They would have you believe they are just another parent trying to get at the truth. They have a web page with all types of information on it which is mostly fabricated. Nothing is based on fact. When this is all over the truth will come out. The simple fact and TRUTH is that hbotruth is none other than Freels himself. Mr. Freels is without a doubt the biggest enemy HBOT has because of all the things and accusations he makes. He tries to destroy the efforts of the AAHA and anyone who tries to do anything for HBOT. He is totally a puppet of Samir Patel as a lot of other people are becoming. Just wave some money around and people like come running. It is up to you as individuals who you want to believe. I truly hate to see people like Mr. Freels try to destroy anything that he cannot be the star of. He is greedy, selfish and will tell you anything to try to make you believe only he has the truth. The truth will soon come out. And you will probably be surprised to see who all is involved. This is not fair to wage a mud throwing war at the expense of your kids. It is ok to have different opinions and to debate over issues. That is what makes the world go around and causes change. But it is not ok to spread untruths about others. Actions like those of Mr. Freels are what is holding back your children from getting hbot. THE TRUTH WILL PREVAIL. Will someone please post this on the Medicaid list? thanks Hartsoe Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry [ ] SHERRI: Re: HBOT, medicaid, and SPECT scans in Idaho Hi Sherri! Thank you for your prompt response. How is your son doing now? I just moved here from Hawaii this summer. I go to Dr. Craddock at CDA Peds. May I know who is that doctor in Post Falls that your friend goes to? I am willing to change PCP, residency (which I did), citizenship, profession (which I am doing now) and anything else that is within my spiritual limits to get these children helped. I live close to the Lake City High. If you e-mail me privately at barakotey@... I will give you my phone number. Again, who is that doctor in Post Falls (CDA Peds? And thank you very much. Sheila > > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > > > Our two year old son who is brain-injured is scheduled for a SPECT > > > > scan next week, and we will hopefully follow that with HBOT the > > > > following week. This will be our first attempt. > > > > > > > > We have questions that perhaps some of you can answer... > > > > > > > > 1.) Has anyone in the state of Idaho applied for or been denied > > for > > > > medicaid funding of HBOT? > > > > > > > > 2.) Is there an ideal time frame between the first SPECT scan and > > HBOT? > > > > > > > > 3.) How should I proceed if medicaid denies my request to > > reimburse > > > > HBOT or the SPECT scan? > > > > > > > > Thanks much for any help you can give. > > > > > > > > Todd > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 30, 2008 Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 OK. I wonder if I should even bother with this kind of childish behavior, but I'm so irritated with this crap that I had to reply. I wish you people would all stop acting like a bunch of spoiled brats, and grow up. I don't know what the problem is here except that it appears to me that certain people are more concerned with the almighty dollar than the bottom line of helping a bunch of people get better...primarily kids. Whether you're doing it for the simple fact that you want to help these kids, or for the fact that you realize that if all of these disabled kids grow up still disabled that this country won't be able to survive financially is irrelevent. I don't post very often because I've got a lot more on my plate than most of you could ever imagine. I'm a blind woman with four little children of which three have autism and the fourth has started showing signs of developmental delays. This all came about just over a year ago. We make about $30,000 a year of which half is through SSI. My husband lost his nice job in the banking industry a while back, and now works at a local hotel praying that our life(at least financially speaking) will return to normal soon so he can provide for his family without the help of the government. Meanwhile, imagine trying to take care of three autistic children when you can't see. So for you people to be bickering like little babies is just ridiculous. As for the comments about , I'll say this. doesn't know me from Adam. I called him up out of the blue in the spring asking for some advice as to how to get my EPSDT request approved, and he was gracious enough to spend time talking to me about it. Not pushing his own agenda that is claimed he has in this email, but just going through the steps of the law with me. When we were denied and went to appeal, took several hours out of his day to be on the conference call with me long distance. He's spent a lot of time answering my questions when no one else seems to care to. I don't pay him a dime. He's never met me. He's never asked me to do a thing for him in return. So, I have no reason to believe that he's some money hungry person out to ruin the lives of thousands or something. And while I'm venting, I'll say this to anyone who may be sitting there thinking that I shouldn't have ever even had children because I'm disabled, or that I shouldn't have had more if I had disabled children. Our life changed forever when my husband's career changed, and shortly after that was when two of our three kids were diagnosed. This was just before I gave birth to baby number four. Like most kids with autism, my three weren't born that way. My oldest began to regress at age five, my second at 15 months, and my third about 18 months. I'm an educated lady with multiple degrees, but my vocation to care for my children and be there to help them is far more important than going back to work. I thought I'd throw that little background in there for any of you who thought you'd make a little judgement call on me since that's highly likely with the way this group seems to go. So, my little rant is just to say that I'm tired of all of this childish behavior, that I don't believe for a second that is some terrible person, and that the best thing everyone can do is be a team player here. Meleah > > > > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > > > > > Our two year old son who is brain-injured is scheduled for a > SPECT > > > > > scan next week, and we will hopefully follow that with HBOT > the > > > > > following week. This will be our first attempt. > > > > > > > > > > We have questions that perhaps some of you can answer... > > > > > > > > > > 1.) Has anyone in the state of Idaho applied for or been > denied > > > for > > > > > medicaid funding of HBOT? > > > > > > > > > > 2.) Is there an ideal time frame between the first SPECT scan > and > > > HBOT? > > > > > > > > > > 3.) How should I proceed if medicaid denies my request to > > > reimburse > > > > > HBOT or the SPECT scan? > > > > > > > > > > Thanks much for any help you can give. > > > > > > > > > > Todd > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 30, 2008 Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 does not own the HBOT truth page. Neither do I. Man I wish I cold take credit for it. There is so much more truth that I could add to it. By the way how is that Chamber selling business going. You can not trust anything Hartsoe say's folk's. Just refer to www.roberthartsoeisadamnliar.com this will explain that allmost everything he say's is untrue. Plus if you wanna know the real miracle in the mountain. This is what it is the miracle he is talking about when he say's Miracle Mountain is he can now pay his bill's and make good money by treationg your disabled family.... szymonski@... <szymonski@...> wrote: From: szymonski@... <szymonski@...> Subject: Re: [ ] SHERRI: Re: HBOT, medicaid, and SPECT scans in Idaho medicaid Date: Wednesday, October 29, 2008, 7:52 PM To all: The following is a post from Hartsoe. It is amazing how paranoid a person can get when the truth hurts, especially when it hurts your pocket book. I am sure many of you have seen some posts by the person calling themselves hbot truth. That person claims to have met with other parents and decided they cannot get the truth because of all the different posts they see on the medicaidhbot group, NeuroHBOT, and HDOTherapyforAustis m groups. They would have you believe they are just another parent trying to get at the truth. They have a web page with all types of information on it which is mostly fabricated. Nothing is based on fact. When this is all over the truth will come out. The simple fact and TRUTH is that hbotruth is none other than Freels himself. Mr. Freels is without a doubt the biggest enemy HBOT has because of all the things and accusations he makes. He tries to destroy the efforts of the AAHA and anyone who tries to do anything for HBOT. He is totally a puppet of Samir Patel as a lot of other people are becoming. Just wave some money around and people like come running. It is up to you as individuals who you want to believe. I truly hate to see people like Mr. Freels try to destroy anything that he cannot be the star of. He is greedy, selfish and will tell you anything to try to make you believe only he has the truth. The truth will soon come out. And you will probably be surprised to see who all is involved. This is not fair to wage a mud throwing war at the expense of your kids. It is ok to have different opinions and to debate over issues. That is what makes the world go around and causes change. But it is not ok to spread untruths about others. Actions like those of Mr. Freels are what is holding back your children from getting hbot. THE TRUTH WILL PREVAIL. Will someone please post this on the Medicaid list? thanks Hartsoe Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry [ ] SHERRI: Re: HBOT, medicaid, and SPECT scans in Idaho Hi Sherri! Thank you for your prompt response. How is your son doing now? I just moved here from Hawaii this summer. I go to Dr. Craddock at CDA Peds. May I know who is that doctor in Post Falls that your friend goes to? I am willing to change PCP, residency (which I did), citizenship, profession (which I am doing now) and anything else that is within my spiritual limits to get these children helped. I live close to the Lake City High. If you e-mail me privately at barakoteyaol (DOT) com I will give you my phone number. Again, who is that doctor in Post Falls (CDA Peds? And thank you very much. Sheila > > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > > > Our two year old son who is brain-injured is scheduled for a SPECT > > > > scan next week, and we will hopefully follow that with HBOT the > > > > following week. This will be our first attempt. > > > > > > > > We have questions that perhaps some of you can answer... > > > > > > > > 1.) Has anyone in the state of Idaho applied for or been denied > > for > > > > medicaid funding of HBOT? > > > > > > > > 2.) Is there an ideal time frame between the first SPECT scan and > > HBOT? > > > > > > > > 3.) How should I proceed if medicaid denies my request to > > reimburse > > > > HBOT or the SPECT scan? > > > > > > > > Thanks much for any help you can give. > > > > > > > > Todd > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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