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Beth,

If your aunt needs the medical coverage but not the income that she would get

from SSI (Supplemental Security Income), she could go to her local public aid

office to apply. Otherwise, if she is trying for SSI, she would have to go to

the Social Security Office.

The quickest assistance would be Medicaid through the public aid office. She

should call and make it clear that she is looking for Medical Assistance,

only (if that is the case.)

If she is needing hospitalization, the social worker or business office

should be able to help her make that application. Eligibility for Medicaid

(independent of SSI) is based upon income; each state has its own formula for

determining eligibility. Sometimes there is a copay involved.

Hope this helps.

Marcia

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She has to file for SSDI first and that can take several months at the

minimum to several years and SSI, once apporved for SSDI it takes 2 years

before Medicare benefits begin. With SSI medicaid begins immediatly. SSI

is based on total family income, which differs a tad bit by state, but

generally you have to be close to the poverty level to qualify for SSI, can

own only 1 vehichle and have less than either 2,000 or $1,000 in the bank.

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Call your local welfare office or Senior and Disabilty services. They will have

all the details. Usually, to qualify for state medical assistance, you must

provide the last 3 months income. You may not be over a certain dollar amount

which is depending on household size. You can get covered reletively immediately

if your income is right. IF not, there are other options like Spend Downs,

Safety nets, etc. File for SSI and SSDI because the SSI payments can begin from

the date of filing once approved. Depending on the illness, she could be

approved quickly. Also, She may qualify for retirement instead of disability

payments due to her age. Call the Welfare office or the SDS in your area and

speak with an intake worker. They can give you the names and numbers of who to

contact if they can't help. Gotta play the game and jump though all the hoops.

Hope this helps, Caroline.

eg4@... wrote: Hi Gang-

I have a question, my best friends Aunt was just diagnosed with a really bad

illness and we are trying to help the family figure out how long it would

take her to get on Medicare or Medicaid- she is 59 ----- if anyone is

familiar I would really appreciate the help.

Beth

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Beth,

I believe for Medicaid she would have to prove financial need. I don't know

if it's the same in all states, but in WA she would have to have less than

$1500 or $2,000--can't remember which & I just went through that at the SS

office--in assets (that includes ins policies, stocks, pensions, etc). She

is allowed to own a home (I think, or maybe it's just the spouse can have a

home--the state takes its portion of the home after both are deceased before

the estate is probated) up to a certain value (in Florida I think it's

unlimited value) and own a car. Also, if she gets rid of her assets by

putting them in someone else's name or stating no claim or interest in them,

it has to be done 3yrs prior to her application.

As for Medicare, if she is approved for SSDI the normal waiting period is

36mo, but because she's 59 she might be able to get it sooner, but have to

pay $300+/mo for it. I'm not sure, as there probably are all kinds of rules

& exceptions to them. You might want to look at the SS website, your

state's welfare/dshs site, and contact your state insurance commissioner.

I've found the ins commissioner to be fairly helpful in the past. Also,

there might be some other state program she's eligible for.

I'll be praying things work out for her.

Teri

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and others,

I took the information I learned from this list last year and have

spent the last 12 months trying to make changes in my state. My state

was/is most definately violating EPSDT (and it certainly wasn't limited

to HBOT denials).

We now have a Medicaid lawyer ready to start a class action suit. I

would like to hear opinions on how to proceed considering the dismal

economic state of the country. Basically our state is slashing

services to children with disabilities left and right, however, they

are not attempting to cut the one service they are forced to provide

because they already lost a lawsuit over it. They were forced to

provide prescribed diapers to Medicaid recipients because not doing so

is of course a violation of EPSDT. So what I am seeing happen is that,

despite lack of funds, they are not limiting the amount of diapers a

child gets in an attempt to balance the budget, instead they are

limiting everything else (everything they can get away with). This

makes me wonder what the state's responsibilty is to abide by EPSDT

when they feel they cannot afford to do so? If they have no money,

will going to court and winning force them to come up with the money

(ie: reprioritize their spending) or are they at some point suddenly

off the hook? Also will the state likely retaliate by changing the

waiver and reducing the amount of children who are Medicaid eligible?

Our state is currently generous in this area. Medicaid is granted to

anyone in " immediate danger of being institutionalized " regardless of

income. I know some states use income to determine eligibility and

some even use a lottery system. I'm trying to figure out if initiating

a class action suit that (based on EPSDT) we would/should win is worth

the effort considering the state may have the power to insure it is a

Pyrrhic victory!

Those who have fought this battle, please chime in!

Thanks,

PS -- we are not only attempting to make Medicaid changes thru

litigation, we are also working on legislation.

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Does anyone have any thoughts on my question below? -

>

> and others,

>

> I took the information I learned from this list last year and have

> spent the last 12 months trying to make changes in my state. My

state

> was/is most definately violating EPSDT (and it certainly wasn't

limited

> to HBOT denials).

>

> We now have a Medicaid lawyer ready to start a class action suit.

I

> would like to hear opinions on how to proceed considering the

dismal

> economic state of the country. Basically our state is slashing

> services to children with disabilities left and right, however,

they

> are not attempting to cut the one service they are forced to

provide

> because they already lost a lawsuit over it. They were forced to

> provide prescribed diapers to Medicaid recipients because not doing

so

> is of course a violation of EPSDT. So what I am seeing happen is

that,

> despite lack of funds, they are not limiting the amount of diapers

a

> child gets in an attempt to balance the budget, instead they are

> limiting everything else (everything they can get away with). This

> makes me wonder what the state's responsibilty is to abide by EPSDT

> when they feel they cannot afford to do so? If they have no money,

> will going to court and winning force them to come up with the

money

> (ie: reprioritize their spending) or are they at some point

suddenly

> off the hook? Also will the state likely retaliate by changing the

> waiver and reducing the amount of children who are Medicaid

eligible?

> Our state is currently generous in this area. Medicaid is granted

to

> anyone in " immediate danger of being institutionalized " regardless

of

> income. I know some states use income to determine eligibility and

> some even use a lottery system. I'm trying to figure out if

initiating

> a class action suit that (based on EPSDT) we would/should win is

worth

> the effort considering the state may have the power to insure it is

a

> Pyrrhic victory!

>

> Those who have fought this battle, please chime in!

>

> Thanks,

>

> PS -- we are not only attempting to make Medicaid changes thru

> litigation, we are also working on legislation.

>

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You may have already told me this before, and I apologize for not remembering,

but what state are you in?

DF

[ ] Re: Medicaid Question

>

>Does anyone have any thoughts on my question below? -

>>

>> and others,

>>

>> I took the information I learned from this list last year and have

>> spent the last 12 months trying to make changes in my state. My

>state

>> was/is most definately violating EPSDT (and it certainly wasn't

>limited

>> to HBOT denials).

>>

>> We now have a Medicaid lawyer ready to start a class action suit.

>I

>> would like to hear opinions on how to proceed considering the

>dismal

>> economic state of the country. Basically our state is slashing

>> services to children with disabilities left and right, however,

>they

>> are not attempting to cut the one service they are forced to

>provide

>> because they already lost a lawsuit over it. They were forced to

>> provide prescribed diapers to Medicaid recipients because not doing

>so

>> is of course a violation of EPSDT. So what I am seeing happen is

>that,

>> despite lack of funds, they are not limiting the amount of diapers

>a

>> child gets in an attempt to balance the budget, instead they are

>> limiting everything else (everything they can get away with). This

>> makes me wonder what the state's responsibilty is to abide by EPSDT

>> when they feel they cannot afford to do so? If they have no money,

>> will going to court and winning force them to come up with the

>money

>> (ie: reprioritize their spending) or are they at some point

>suddenly

>> off the hook? Also will the state likely retaliate by changing the

>> waiver and reducing the amount of children who are Medicaid

>eligible?

>> Our state is currently generous in this area. Medicaid is granted

>to

>> anyone in " immediate danger of being institutionalized " regardless

>of

>> income. I know some states use income to determine eligibility and

>> some even use a lottery system. I'm trying to figure out if

>initiating

>> a class action suit that (based on EPSDT) we would/should win is

>worth

>> the effort considering the state may have the power to insure it is

>a

>> Pyrrhic victory!

>>

>> Those who have fought this battle, please chime in!

>>

>> Thanks,

>>

>> PS -- we are not only attempting to make Medicaid changes thru

>> litigation, we are also working on legislation.

>>

>

>

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I am in Arizona.

-

>

> You may have already told me this before, and I apologize for not

remembering, but what state are you in?

>

>

> DF

>

>

>

>

> [ ] Re: Medicaid Question

> >

> >Does anyone have any thoughts on my question below? -

> >>

> >> and others,

> >>

> >> I took the information I learned from this list last year and

have

> >> spent the last 12 months trying to make changes in my state. My

> >state

> >> was/is most definately violating EPSDT (and it certainly wasn't

> >limited

> >> to HBOT denials).

> >>

> >> We now have a Medicaid lawyer ready to start a class action

suit.

> >I

> >> would like to hear opinions on how to proceed considering the

> >dismal

> >> economic state of the country. Basically our state is slashing

> >> services to children with disabilities left and right, however,

> >they

> >> are not attempting to cut the one service they are forced to

> >provide

> >> because they already lost a lawsuit over it. They were forced

to

> >> provide prescribed diapers to Medicaid recipients because not

doing

> >so

> >> is of course a violation of EPSDT. So what I am seeing happen

is

> >that,

> >> despite lack of funds, they are not limiting the amount of

diapers

> >a

> >> child gets in an attempt to balance the budget, instead they are

> >> limiting everything else (everything they can get away with).

This

> >> makes me wonder what the state's responsibilty is to abide by

EPSDT

> >> when they feel they cannot afford to do so? If they have no

money,

> >> will going to court and winning force them to come up with the

> >money

> >> (ie: reprioritize their spending) or are they at some point

> >suddenly

> >> off the hook? Also will the state likely retaliate by changing

the

> >> waiver and reducing the amount of children who are Medicaid

> >eligible?

> >> Our state is currently generous in this area. Medicaid is

granted

> >to

> >> anyone in " immediate danger of being institutionalized "

regardless

> >of

> >> income. I know some states use income to determine eligibility

and

> >> some even use a lottery system. I'm trying to figure out if

> >initiating

> >> a class action suit that (based on EPSDT) we would/should win is

> >worth

> >> the effort considering the state may have the power to insure it

is

> >a

> >> Pyrrhic victory!

> >>

> >> Those who have fought this battle, please chime in!

> >>

> >> Thanks,

> >>

> >> PS -- we are not only attempting to make Medicaid changes thru

> >> litigation, we are also working on legislation.

> >>

> >

> >

>

>

> Freels

> http://www.davidfreels.com

> david@...

>

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,

My understanding of Medicaid is that you have to use doctors who accept

Medicaid and your private insurance. The private insurance must pay first

and only then will Medicaid pay the remainder. I'm pretty sure there is no

way to file a claim with Medicaid yourself. The doctor must do it.

By the way, you know about the HIPP program, don't you?

marilyn

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,

My understanding of Medicaid is that you have to use doctors who accept

Medicaid and your private insurance. The private insurance must pay first

and only then will Medicaid pay the remainder. I'm pretty sure there is no

way to file a claim with Medicaid yourself. The doctor must do it.

By the way, you know about the HIPP program, don't you?

marilyn

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Won't you be my neighbor? , sure wish we lived a little closer along with

several other who I just admire, such inspirational of circle of friends along

this journey. But, in reality though it is spreading our wings were needed to

have choices/options.

In a way congratulations that your child is receiving the MDCP program. I may

not be the best person to answer this as this will revolve " under " 21 y/o

services in your case plus I had to deny it due to my son's name coming off the

interest list onto the CLASS program at the same time.

I hope you do look into the CDS options, if there is a Town Hall meeting near

your area in regards to the Consumer Direct Options, highly recommend it.

http://www.dads.state.tx.us/providers/communications/alerts/alerts.cfm?alertid=3\

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MDCP will help pay for any services " RESPITE " , this is where should you seek the

CDS route could hire anyone of your choice to watch your child.

Some families have also used funds according to the budget around your child

like home modification, adaptive aids, then there is the Medicaid, could have a

ST,OT & PT, etc.

Now, will warn you here should you seek some specialize service that should you

seek this route, I hate to tell you that you may be overqualified more than any

of the therapist who contract with anyone who is contracted with the MDCP

program. So this is where you could hire your own and knowing you, will probably

end up training them to apply the services around your child's level of need. :)

Ho hum, wonder how I know this?

It would be great that you end up finding a therapist that is already

knowledgeable and trained with individuals under the autism spectrum and

thensome. But, we can dream or pray.

Irma

>

> Yes Irma I also found some people who were getting Hbot covered by Medicaid.

We have a chamber and I'd love of course to get it covered. Then I could offer

it to others with a doctor's RX. I got medicaid through MDCP, it took us 5

years. Now I have it, I'm not sure how to use it.

>

> If anyone has ideas how I can use this to help lighten our load, please share.

>

> I will start filing with insurance company and then if denied I'll send to

medicaid. Another full time job just to keep track of all the paper trail.

>

>

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