Re: How do we get our Doctors to test for this?

[Guest guest]

Dear Tina,

My heart goes out to you. I have been to allergists and doctors and they all think I am nuts! It is so hard. I got sick from work and unfortunately it was in a government building. They dont want to help me with something they use for biowarfare. They dont want to set precedence as I am the first. I think it is because I am the only one left who worked in that basement for eight years before I moved over it with holes in the floor. My next try is a kinesiologist. I feel the medical profession has no help for me and maybe my answer lies in alternative medicine as I live here with my aircleaners. I hear the desperation and frustration in your words as I feel them myself. God Bless you,

Janet

[Guest guest]

I have not met with the kinesiologist. But she has me doing a "clearing" and taking homeopathic "energy". She said it is mostly distilled water. This is supposed to stableize me enough to go for the muscle treatment and can use the collodial silver.

Janet

In a message dated 8/29/03 10:35:24 AM Eastern Daylight Time, glypella@... writes:

I've been taking colloidal silver in the hopes that it will get

through the mycotoxin barriers. It is an antifungal/antibacterial that

doesn't alter anything else in your body and is safe to take. Too much

might just turn you into a Smurf - either grey or blue. Other than

that, there are no side effects. You can even make your own at very

little cost. Shhhhh, don't tell the pharmaceuticals this!

Barth

[Guest guest]

She said it was mostly distilled water. I cant remember the rest. But as a very allergic person, I would know by now if something bad was in it. The "clearing "has to do with your body energy.

[Guest guest]

Tina, this is a high crime that the AMA, Doctors, and the

pharmaceuticals are committing. The pharmcartel doesn't want the

answers out there, because they would lose billions on their cancer,

MS, lupus, and allergy drugs. It's probably safer to go to a vet for a

broken leg these days than to have to enter a hospital.

I've been taking colloidal silver in the hopes that it will get

through the mycotoxin barriers. It is an antifungal/antibacterial that

doesn't alter anything else in your body and is safe to take. Too much

might just turn you into a Smurf - either grey or blue. Other than

that, there are no side effects. You can even make your own at very

little cost. Shhhhh, don't tell the pharmaceuticals this!

Barth

TOXIC MOLD SURVEY: www.presenting.net/sbs/sbssurvey.html

[Guest guest]

I am no doctor but why on earth would they have to remove your leg

because you are having problems with your lungs? (Lack of

circulation?)

There is a supplement called NAC (got mine at Whole Foods) which

helps pull mucus out of your body. (I got the idea because there was

an article in the paper about smoking so do a search on smoking and

NAC.) I was still being exposed and the doctor saw some rinusitus

(sp) but my lungs were clear.

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[Guest guest]

If this woman is doing a so called " clearing " I repeat get a detailed

list from her of every single ingredient in the water. Also a

detailed explanation of what type of water she is using. (Is it tap

water, distilled, filtered? There is a lot of garbage in our water

and you need to know what you are drinking.)

When I think " clearing " I think detox. Your body is filled with

toxins so you have to be careful. (Thank you for reminding me need to

post that cholystramine was recalled. It is too strong and I would

fall asleep for hours when I started taking it.)

Did you ever try the grapefruit seed extract? I loved it. I have

heard that people have had a lot of success with something called

Monolaurin. It was $$ and I am stubborn so I did not try it. It is

lauric acid in high quantity. (Lauric acid is found in breast milk

and coconut oil. I bought coconut oil and would sometimes add a

little bit into my tea. Would be awesome in a lip balm and maybe some

kind of salad dressing or tropical chicken dish.)

> I have not met with the kinesiologist. But she has me doing

a " clearing " and

> taking homeopathic " energy " . She said it is mostly distilled water.

This is

> supposed to stableize me enough to go for the muscle treatment and

can use the

> collodial silver.

> Janet

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>

> In a message dated 8/29/03 10:35:24 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

> glypella@p... writes:

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> >

> > I've been taking colloidal silver in the hopes that it will get

> > through the mycotoxin barriers. It is an antifungal/antibacterial

that

> > doesn't alter anything else in your body and is safe to take. Too

much

> > might just turn you into a Smurf - either grey or blue. Other than

> > that, there are no side effects. You can even make your own at

very

> > little cost. Shhhhh, don't tell the pharmaceuticals this!

> >

> >

> > Barth

> >

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

I do know how to treat this, I have several different combinations

which are quite effective. But, she is in ICU, if I do anything I

will be in big trouble. Also this is one hard old lady if she

survives she may refuse my help because, she doesn't like anyone

getting in her business.

About three months ago my best friend was in the same hospital her

leg was retaining fluid the same way, as well as in the one lung she

has left. I was there for all of the tests run on her(she said I was

her sister so they allowed it) Her heart was enlarged like most

victims. The attending Physician was really interested that it was

her job and home infested with mold. He promissed to do every test

he could to prove it, we waited three days for the results, yet

instead someone came in and said he wasn't her doctor it was a

mistake. When we asked what the results were from the cultures their

comment was " WE DON'T DO ALLERGY TESTING HERE " .

The diagnoses was of course she smoked too much, they sent her home

saying she needs a lung transplant or she will die.

She is easy as she has watched the work I have been doing over the

past three and a half years and is now using the same stuff I use to

heal myself in hopes she won't need the transplant. She is doing

great except she can't afford to move out of the sick building she

lives in. She no longer has a job as they put her on permanent and

immediate disability so that exposure has stopped. She knows now how

to protect herself because she knows what is making her sick and

uses effective treatment instead of the dangerous ineffective drugs

the doctors have given her.

But, this other lady, I am so mad I can't see straight, What good is

knowing how to treat this when you aren't allowed to do anything

without getting in trouble.

You are right they don't want anyone to know it causes some of the

most common and serious diseases for fear they would be put out of

business, so here they put a gag order on doctors so they refuse to

test for it. That way people will still get ALZHEIMERS, ADD, ADHD,

MS,CANCER, FIBROMYALGIA, MON(EPSTEIN BARR),ALS,CHRONIC

FATIGUE,MIGRAINES ETC. ETC. ETC.ETC BOY THAT LIST GOES ON AND ON.

Us who use and study natural medicine are at risk when ever we try

to help any one they say it is to protect the public. Yet this is

the only way for most of us to get treatment.

They are all guilty of murder, they are killing people by the

millions and know it is happening and why. We all know what this is

doing, the sufferring we are all going through yet the people we

were brought up to trust have failed us, none of the stand up for

the oath they took when they became doctors, TO DO NO HARM.

I am sorry for going on like this, I am just so angry I could help

her but, I am not allowed too. This sucks!

Guys we need to get together and do something, NONVICTIMS DON'T

CARE, and most people don't know thats what is making them sick.

Tina

[Guest guest]

t> Guys we need to get together and do something, NONVICTIMS DON'T

t> CARE, and most people don't know thats what is making them sick.

t> Tina

The best thing that you can do is make the general public aware of

these problems. Forget the ones who don't want to know until they get

sick.

Barth

TOXIC MOLD SURVEY: www.presenting.net/sbs/sbssurvey.html

[Guest guest]

She broke her leg which landed her in the hospital.( I had been

telling her for months she was a sickbuilding victim) Because of her

body being saturated with mold she started retaining fluids. Instead

of a diuretic they chose to try and drain the excess fluid from her

leg with a shunt, which is now very infected. But it is infected

with fungi not bacteria.

Her lung is also filling with fluids and now some kind of spot I

believe is mold since giving a mold victim oxygen will cause its

growth to accellerate. They say her lung can't heal because of the

leg,her body can't heal both. But, they won't even try an

antifungal, I don't like synthetic antifungals because they are to

hard on the organs but, this is life and death, and they refuse to

even hear the evidence.

Thanks for caring, Tina

[Guest guest]

I know you are right. I am doing just that I am a bird expert not

people expert. My store has a display case I have filled with

information, and the herbs I use on myself, and what others have

used to get better. I am teaching as many as I can.

I have worked harder on this than my business which supports me and

my family. Unfortunately this this keeps adding to my debt, and my

business is slow because I've been concentrating on helping other

victims. I can't walk away from the victims because it tears me

apart seeing victims treated like I was before I gave up on the

medical community. I am a bird doctor not a people doctor yet in my

area I am the only hope for many victims. Colorado is just as sick

as other states yet they argue our climate is dry. OOOOOOOOOOOH!

Tina

[Guest guest]

Well I admit it I am stubborn and still want to know. I know you

can buy a cd which will open up your 7 energy points and help you

heal (Alternative cd section in Borders- 7 chakra's) There is

scientific evidence of course.

> She said it was mostly distilled water. I cant remember the rest.

But as a

> very allergic person, I would know by now if something bad was in

it. The

> " clearing " has to do with your body energy.