Guest guest Posted May 16, 2003 Report Share Posted May 16, 2003 In a message dated 5/16/2003 2:55:51 PM Mountain Standard Time, writes: > An IEP can be implemented without > a parent signing in agreement. The idea is that the " team " decides things. > A > parent can't prevent an IEP from being implemented by not signing. They > must > follow the " procedures " if they disagree. The parent is PART of the team and the whole team must agree on the IEP. If the parent doesn't agree and sign the IEP they have to schedule another meeting and try to reach concensus. Janis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2003 Report Share Posted May 17, 2003 In a message dated 5/17/03 6:53:03 AM Central Daylight Time, thrill@... writes: > They've never filed for due process, we would meet and re-meet and make > changes, but they never signed the IEP. So, we (at least when she was in > my class) followed the unsigned IEP and that was okay. I'm still not sure > why they never signed--if they were THAT unhappy/unsure of it they should > have filed for due process or continued to meet. Jill, my state provides an agree with changes/ or do not agree/ or need more information, page to sign. There have been times when we havn't signed, not because we disagree but because after 10 SCHOOL days the IEP goes into effect as if it was signed agreed to, there have been times when I've signed later then 10 days but that was just to agree anyway and didn't change anything....now when I have questions I have checked the need more info. box and a meeting was set up pronto. The same when I've checked the disagree. So perhaps these parents had no objection to the IEP as written and just let it go into effect by not signing. Joy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2003 Report Share Posted May 17, 2003 However, I have worked with a family who has NEVER signed an IEP in their daughter's entire school career (at least since she was 9 yrs. old) and she graduates this week. They've never filed for due process, we would meet and re-meet and make changes, but they never signed the IEP. So, we (at least when she was in my class) followed the unsigned IEP and that was okay. I'm still not sure why they never signed--if they were THAT unhappy/unsure of it they should have filed for due process or continued to meet. After a couple of meetings, they usually said, we'll see how it goes and then we wouldn't hear much from them the rest of the year. Maybe it was just a control type thing. Jill The parent is PART of the team and the whole team must agree on the IEP. If the parent doesn't agree and sign the IEP they have to schedule another meeting and try to reach concensus. Janis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2003 Report Share Posted May 17, 2003 Hi, My understanding was that the school has to go by the last signed IEP. So by implementing the new stuff they are in violation. but I guess you would need to check your states laws. Jean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2003 Report Share Posted May 17, 2003 In a message dated 5/17/2003 11:02:41 AM Mountain Standard Time, ANGEL2COOK@... writes: > Hi, > My understanding was that the school has to go by the last signed IEP. So > by implementing the new stuff they are in violation. but I guess you would > need to check your states laws. > Jean That is my understanding as well. Maybe it is different in different areas? Janis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2003 Report Share Posted May 17, 2003 In a message dated 5/17/2003 9:45:51 AM Eastern Daylight Time, JTesmer799@... writes: > 10 SCHOOL days the IEP goes into effect > as if it was signed agreed to, This implied consent clause was prevelent in many states but no longer so in many now. Check your regs and see if you can find anything that says you must sign within ten days. Of course, I believe it is better to sign you disagree, whether partially or completely, than to leave it unsigned. Cheryl in VA People with disabilities are here today to remind us that equal justice under the law is not a privilege but a fundamental birthright in America. Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Senator Ted Kennedy, during the Senate's passage of ADA-July 13, 1990 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2003 Report Share Posted May 20, 2003 In a message dated 5/17/2003 5:53:09 AM Central Standard Time, thrill@... writes: > Maybe it was just a control type thing. > > Jill HI Jill Heehee Im betting it is lol after one of our meeting this year we were all walking out of the room chit chatting, I had just told the sped teacher that we would get together and write the IEP before our annual. The coordinator (admin) made a laughing comment ........... " now we know where Sara's gets this taking control thing " I instantly turned to her and said " well someone has to be in control " and I laughed ... she didn't lol Kathy mom to Sara 11 ............ yes I enjoy the control thing too but I do sign the IEP lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 29, 2005 Report Share Posted September 29, 2005 In a message dated 9/29/05 1:57:43 PM Mountain Daylight Time, SSRI medications writes: > Was Dahmer a cannibal or wasn't he? He was on Prozac. And the other examples you cited were probably psychiatric drug cases as well. I personally do not believe that people just go crazy and then do these hideous things. I could be wrong. I've been wrong before, but every case that I've investigated had somewhere sometime a psychiatric drug. The very concept that these drugs fuck with your mind is an abomination to me, and THAT is my basic criticism of psychiatry -- the manipulation of the mind through chemicals. I didn't hear about the baby slashing, but I do remember the jackass who pushed the young woman onto a subway track -- he had recently gone off his antipsychotics and we all know what happens then. Otherwise, I agree with you about the horrid state of the mental health cabal. Blind Reason A novel of pharmaceutical intrigue Think your antidepressant is safe? Think again. " All the truth in the world adds up to one big lie. " ~ Bob Dylan ~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 29, 2005 Report Share Posted September 29, 2005 In a message dated 9/29/05 1:57:43 PM Mountain Daylight Time, SSRI medications writes: > Was Dahmer a cannibal or wasn't he? He was on Prozac. And the other examples you cited were probably psychiatric drug cases as well. I personally do not believe that people just go crazy and then do these hideous things. I could be wrong. I've been wrong before, but every case that I've investigated had somewhere sometime a psychiatric drug. The very concept that these drugs fuck with your mind is an abomination to me, and THAT is my basic criticism of psychiatry -- the manipulation of the mind through chemicals. I didn't hear about the baby slashing, but I do remember the jackass who pushed the young woman onto a subway track -- he had recently gone off his antipsychotics and we all know what happens then. Otherwise, I agree with you about the horrid state of the mental health cabal. Blind Reason A novel of pharmaceutical intrigue Think your antidepressant is safe? Think again. " All the truth in the world adds up to one big lie. " ~ Bob Dylan ~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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