Boron--Reply to 2

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Hi and Everyone,

That is very interesting about the boron and vitamin K deficiency which you

have as a result of taking Coumadin. That does lend some support to the

theory that boron and K do work together. Now if boron has such a big effect

in increasing estrogen (at least in post menopausal women, which is what the

study was about), then how does vitamin K fit in? Vitamin K has a main

function of promoting blood clotting, but it is also helpful in preventing

osteoporosis and fractures. Could it be that it is necessary for boron

metabolism and a K deficiency could cause low estrogen? That would be

interesting.

Also one type of K is involved in tumor suppression. There are three types

of vitamin K: K1 (phylloquinone), K2 (menaquinone), and K3 (menadione). The

K3 has been found to inhibit tumor types of cancer such as breast, ovary,

colon, stomach, kidney, and lung. Since many tumors, especially in the breast

and ovary, may be producing estrogen, possibly vitamin K does increase

estrogen production and then the body dissolves the estrogen producing tumors

that it has built. Again, this is all very speculative, but we have built

many theories based upon flimsy evidence like this and eventually other

information has surfaced to support those theories. So let's keep in mind the

possibility that vitamin K may facilitate estrogen production and if this were

true then it would be a beneficial vitamin for hyperthyroidics, because of

estrogen's ability to suppress the thyroid.

, it would really be good if you could stop using that drug. Do you

think it's possible? Who knows what ramifications that drug might be having

throughout your body and particularly your endocrine system. I'll keep my eye

out for other natural ways to keep your blood from getting thick, but maybe

you could re-evaluate the necessity of taking it.

I can't find any information that could possibly connect to your high blood

sugar. I doubt if boron would bind to other minerals.

There is some other information on vitamin K. Hopefully none of this applies

to you: " Vitamin K is frequently used with vitamin C in the prevention and

improvement of hemorrhages in various parts of the eye. Vitamin K is also

used to prevent heorrhaging following gallblader operations and to prevent

cerebral palsy. " If I find anything else about K, I'll run it past you.

Do you think you could have an estrogen deficiency because of the lack of K

and also because of the consequent inability to metabolize boron?

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[Guest guest]

In a message dated 12/9/98 1:39:19 AM Eastern Standard Time, BU007@...

writes:

<< I'll keep my eye

out for other natural ways to keep your blood from getting thick, but maybe

you could re-evaluate the necessity of taking it. >>

Hi

Two supplements I know of will thin the blood. Fish oil capsules (I used Dale

s concentrated fish oil at 2-3 per day) and higher doses of vitamin

E. When I had blood taken recently the doctor put a bandaid on afterward

expected that to be enough and while I was talking to him I began to bleed

right through the bandaid and on to my cloths. As soon as he used a gauze pad

and another bandaid it stopped. But that led me to believe that because of

the fish oil I take longer to clot.

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