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You know the thing that just irks me to no end is that they didn't do the

thing that would cut paperwork the most--- create a federal standardized

form! The districts like to whine and cry about paperwork, but the reality

is that THEY are the ones that create it.

Good Grief!

M.

In a message dated 5/2/03 9:58:27 PM, writes:

<< The 3-year IEP, if agreed to by the parent and the school, would

> maintain critical individualized education to children with special needs

> while reducing complex and duplicative paperwork.

I wonder how many pages a 3 year IEP will have? I know how many one for

my child would have ..... much more paperwork than an annual IEP!

Cheryl in VA >>

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I think the problems is with districts that will pressure parents into 3 year

IEP's when it is not in the best interest of the child. ly, if they do

optional 3 year IEP's now- they will fight to get them for everyone by the

next reauthorization.

M.

In a message dated 5/2/03 9:58:27 PM, writes:

<< And what's wrong with giving parents the CHOICE of how often they want to

write the goals. If they feel three years is often enough based on their

knowledge of THEIR child then I say give them that right. The whole law is

not changed, everyone still has the right to yearly IEP's if they choose, I

sure know that I wouldn't change that regarding 's IEP.

Joy >>

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In a message dated 5/3/03 1:02:50 AM Central Daylight Time, muracat@...

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> I think the problems is with districts that will pressure parents into 3

> year

> IEP's when it is not in the best interest of the child. ly, if they

> do

> optional 3 year IEP's now- they will fight to get them for everyone by the

> next reauthorization.

> M.

Perhaps, then again perhaps not.

I really think some changes are necessary. There are things and situations

where what is required takes time and resources. Options are necessary.

Here they've said alot of things regarding educational changes. PSOP was

going to be so awful. (my middle to preferred it to hs back biting cliques,

had the added benefit of AS dergrees) School choice has been an option here

for along time, it to has not had the dire consequences that were predicted.

Change is not bad, sometimes it's actually better to give choices since all

kids and all educational plans are not the same.

If they try to take make the 3 yr option manditory in the next

reauthorization, then deal with it then, as long as it's now a choice give it

a chance. IMO of course. :-)

joy, who prefers choice

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In a message dated 5/2/03 11:58:46 PM Central Daylight Time,

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> > But if you look at some of the kids that are really, really

> > delayed, what purpose does it serve to have to have a meeting every year

> to

> >

> > discuss the same objectives.

>

> No child should have the same objectives year after year, that's the law.

>

> They should have individualized objectives suited for them that they can

> ACCOMPLISH within one year's time. AND there are very few students that

> meet

> the severe and profound type of definition ... so why change the entire law

>

> if lawmakers thought that would benefit only the small minority?

>

> One of the main functions of IDEA 97 was to STOP the same goals being put

> on

> IEPS year after year ... and it wasn't just students that were severe and

> profound that this was happening to.

> Cheryl in VA

My son would probably test in the severe range. I have worked with students

in the severe and profound range in residential care. I am also on a list

serv for kids severely affected by autism.

I, personally, feel that schools are often at a loss for how to teach the

kids that are the most significantly disabled. Often these kids need more

involved behavior plans and more intense instruction than they receive or

schools recognize the need for. I strongly feel that these children can learn

also and need short term objectives and annual goals like any other child.

Sure the goals may not be the large steps that we see with most other kids.

But, I don't want my kid sorting silverware as a educational task for three

years with no improvement and have someone say, " oh, well, he just isn't

smart enough to get it " What a waste. Write goals that are motivating and

appropriate for each child. Review them regularly (in res. care we were

required to review every 6 months) and keep the child learning.

Karyn

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In a message dated 5/2/03 11:58:46 PM Central Daylight Time,

writes:

> And what's wrong with giving parents the CHOICE of how often they want to

> write the goals. If they feel three years is often enough based on their

> knowledge of THEIR child then I say give them that right. The whole law is

>

> not changed, everyone still has the right to yearly IEP's if they choose, I

>

> sure know that I wouldn't change that regarding 's IEP.

>

> Joy

>

Joy,

How many parents now request IEPs more than yearly? It is our right to have

an IEP meeting whenever we feel the need but parents hesitate to do that.

Many parents are intimidated by the process. I have an acquaintance who is an

educational advocate. She gets many calls from parents who think that their

child is going along just fine until they sit down in the annual IEP and find

out differently. Just my opinion.

Karyn

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In a message dated 5/3/2003 2:34:50 AM Eastern Daylight Time, muracat@...

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> The districts like to whine and cry about paperwork, but the reality

> is that THEY are the ones that create it.

>

Exactly! And how many people on this list have computerized IEP forms now?

Ours flag meeting dates, transition dates, age of majority dates, just about

anything they need to be reminded of ..... really pretty easy to work with.

Cheryl in VA

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Well said Karyn! The attitude that was expressed suggesting severly delay

children don't need reviewed more than once every 3 years is belittling.

You may as well say you've given up on them.

Schulte

> But, I don't want my kid sorting silverware as a educational task for

three

> years with no improvement and have someone say, " oh, well, he just isn't

> smart enough to get it " What a waste. Write goals that are motivating and

> appropriate for each child. Review them regularly (in res. care we were

> required to review every 6 months) and keep the child learning.

>

> Karyn

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In a message dated 5/3/03 9:40:24 AM Central Daylight Time, Kvanryzin@...

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> How many parents now request IEPs more than yearly? It is our right to have

> an IEP meeting whenever we feel the need but parents hesitate to do that.

> Many parents are intimidated by the process. I have an acquaintance who is

> an

> educational advocate. She gets many calls from parents who think that their

>

> child is going along just fine until they sit down in the annual IEP and

> find

> out differently. Just my opinion.

>

Karyn,

I've been there and done that, even the part about thinking things are fine

and basically being slapped up side the head. What really made the crap hit

the fan was my daughters ST, hey I learned pretty fast and frustrated parents

do call meetings more then once a year, once they learn they can. Choice is

still a good option. This won't change any of that, schools will continue as

they are, parents will continue to get PO'd and finally learn how to deal

with them and so on. And having seen all the scare tactics used against

educational choices for 'normal' kids here be proven false, I'm willing to

give these choices a chance to.

Joy

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Christi, I am sorry for your loss, I pray the Lord will comfort you and give

you peace!

in Texas

>

> >Hello.

> >

> >I want to thank each and every one of you for your prayers, cards,

> emails,

> >thoughts, condolences for the loss of my brother, Bill.

> >

> >Bill was killed in a tragic car accident this past Saturday

> morning, and we

> >laid him to rest on Tuesday. He will be missed so very much!

> >

> >I am home now. But, am taking the weekend to recuperate! This

> has been a

> >very trying and emotionally draining week, and I just need to be

> with my

> >honey tonight.

> >

> >Thank you all again. You mean so very much to me!

> >

> >Christi Honaker

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> Anyhow, I look forward to being a part of this group!!

>

Welcome, . Love your site, and the floating logo. Best of luck to

you in NYC!

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Carol J

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Hi ,

I'm just north of you in Westchester Co. ....near Peekskill/Yorktown.

Welcome to the group. You'll find lots of help here.....

Ryhanen

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I am a newbie to this group although not a newbie to soapmaking. I

have a small business that I just moved from New Orleans to NYC.

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SKIP the dairy altogether!

It causes mucous all over the body.

Soak a handfull or raw almonds overnight in 1 pint water

then liquify and add rest of things in smoothie below!

If you feel you MUST use milk - use goat's milk.

It doesn't cause allergies as bad as cow's milk...

but milk is milk.

We're the ONLY animals on the planet brain-washed enough to consume milk after

we're weaned...!

Jan

> From: Suzanne <suziesgoats@...>

> Subject: Power smoothie

>

> Morning Power Smoothie

> This smoothie recipe is a wonderful combination of flavors giving you a way

to enjoy the nutritional benefits of strawberries. The added tahini and yogurt

will help to sustain you for a healthy fruit pick me up.

> Prep and Cook Time: 5 minutes

>

> Ingredients:

> 4 large strawberries

> ¼ cup low fat plain yogurt

> 1 cup fresh orange juice

> 1 TBS tahini

> 1 medium size banana

> ½ tsp vanilla

> 1 TBS honey

> Directions:

>

> Remove stems from strawberries and wash.

>

> Blend all ingredients in blender until smooth.

>

> Serve in 2 8oz glasses

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We're the ONLY animals on the planet brain-washed enough to consume milk after we're weaned...!Jan

Hi Jan

I like that I only said something about milk drinking to someone the other day: "that we are the only species that consumes anothers milk - cows milk is mean't for baby cows - not humans"

My kids have been dairy free since we went raw 8 weeks ago and haven't missed it much at all apart from the occassional wanting a chocolate they are doing really great. They have never drank milk just had a little other dairy but no more.

Tracey

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