Re: Novi-Guard- Kills mold!!!

November 10, 2003

t> I have talked to the Co. which makes Novi-Guard, and am trying

t> to work something out, so that victims will be able to get the

t> product without having to buy full cases.

t> For anyone living in the Denver area we can help you out with the

t> product now, we just received the our shipment. But, could only

t> afford to get the 22oz and the 5-gal size. I hope to get the 1-gal

t> size soon.

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Tina, what is the active ingredient in Novi-Guard and how much does

the product cost? Good old vinegar will do the same job for pennies a

gallon.

Barth

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November 10, 2003

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Subject: [] Novi-Guard- Kills mold!!!

I have talked to the Co. which makes Novi-Guard, and am trying to work something out, so that victims will be able to get the product without having to buy full cases.For anyone living in the Denver area we can help you out with the product now, we just received the our shipment. But, could only afford to get the 22oz and the 5-gal size. I hope to get the 1-gal size soon. For others from other area too far to pick up please e-mail me privately if you need it in the smaller than case quantities. I will be working on the shipping issue TinaFAIR USE NOTICE:This site contains copyrighted material the use of which has not always been specifically authorized by the copyright owner. We are making such material available in our efforts to advance understanding of environmental, political, human rights, economic, democracy, scientific, and social justice issues, etc. We believe this constitutes a 'fair use' of any such copyrighted material as provided for in section 107 of the US Copyright Law. In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, the material on this site is distributed without profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for research and educational purposes. For more information go to: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml. If you wish to use copyrighted material from this site for purposes of your own that go beyond 'fair use', you must obtain permission from the copyright owner.

November 10, 2003

Hi, ,

Have your used vinegar and if so how did you use it? I am currently filing disability so I have little income to purchase this product with so the vinegar is sounding like a good alternative for now. Thanks,

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tinabutton

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Subject: Re: [] Novi-Guard- Kills mold!!!

t> I have talked to the Co. which makes Novi-Guard, and am trying t> to work something out, so that victims will be able to get the t> product without having to buy full cases.t> For anyone living in the Denver area we can help you out with the t> product now, we just received the our shipment. But, could only t> afford to get the 22oz and the 5-gal size. I hope to get the 1-gal t> size soon.--------------Tina, what is the active ingredient in Novi-Guard and how much doesthe product cost? Good old vinegar will do the same job for pennies agallon. BarthTOXIC MOLD SURVEY: www.presenting.net/sbs/sbssurvey.htmlFAIR USE NOTICE:This site contains copyrighted material the use of which has not always been specifically authorized by the copyright owner. We are making such material available in our efforts to advance understanding of environmental, political, human rights, economic, democracy, scientific, and social justice issues, etc. We believe this constitutes a 'fair use' of any such copyrighted material as provided for in section 107 of the US Copyright Law. In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, the material on this site is distributed without profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for research and educational purposes. For more information go to: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml. If you wish to use copyrighted material from this site for purposes of your own that go beyond 'fair use', you must obtain permission from the copyright owner.

November 10, 2003

I am troubled by the price of the product. $40 for a 22oz bottle is too

much. I did not find the MSDS sheet and active ingredients list for this

product. Until I see both, I wouldn't but the product.

My guess it contains the same active ingredients as the much cheaper

products you can find here:

http://jon-doninc.com/catalog/default.php?cPath=82_2464

I am in the process of gutting out the finished basement in the 30 year old

house we bought about two years ago. The rim joist area is full of

light-colored mold. I have purchased the fiberlock shockwave and IAQ2000

product to use to kill/clean the mold. I then plan on painting the entire

floor joist/rim joist with the Fibrelock encasement paint.

I can't say the Fibrelock product is any better than novi-guard but it is

much more affordable.

Joe Esposito

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Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 12:56 PM

Subject: [] Novi-Guard- Kills mold!!!

> I have talked to the Co. which makes Novi-Guard, and am trying

> to work something out, so that victims will be able to get the

> product without having to buy full cases.

> For anyone living in the Denver area we can help you out with the

> product now, we just received the our shipment. But, could only

> afford to get the 22oz and the 5-gal size. I hope to get the 1-gal

> size soon.

> For others from other area too far to pick up please e-mail me

> privately if you need it in the smaller than case quantities. I will

> be working on the shipping issue Tina

>

> FAIR USE NOTICE:

>

> This site contains copyrighted material the use of which has not always

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November 10, 2003

Thanks for the information. It is much better priced.

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Subject: Re: [] Novi-Guard- Kills mold!!!

I am troubled by the price of the product. $40 for a 22oz bottle is toomuch. I did not find the MSDS sheet and active ingredients list for thisproduct. Until I see both, I wouldn't but the product.My guess it contains the same active ingredients as the much cheaperproducts you can find here:http://jon-doninc.com/catalog/default.php?cPath=82_2464I am in the process of gutting out the finished basement in the 30 year oldhouse we bought about two years ago. The rim joist area is full oflight-colored mold. I have purchased the fiberlock shockwave and IAQ2000product to use to kill/clean the mold. I then plan on painting the entirefloor joist/rim joist with the Fibrelock encasement paint.I can't say the Fibrelock product is any better than novi-guard but it ismuch more affordable.Joe Esposito----- Original Message -----From: "tinabutton" <tinabut@...>< >Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 12:56 PMSubject: [] Novi-Guard- Kills mold!!!> I have talked to the Co. which makes Novi-Guard, and am trying> to work something out, so that victims will be able to get the> product without having to buy full cases.> For anyone living in the Denver area we can help you out with the> product now, we just received the our shipment. But, could only> afford to get the 22oz and the 5-gal size. I hope to get the 1-gal> size soon.> For others from other area too far to pick up please e-mail me> privately if you need it in the smaller than case quantities. I will> be working on the shipping issue Tina>>>> FAIR USE NOTICE:>> This site contains copyrighted material the use of which has not alwaysbeen specifically authorized by the copyright owner. We are making suchmaterial available in our efforts to advance understanding of environmental,political, human rights, economic, democracy, scientific, and social justiceissues, etc. We believe this constitutes a 'fair use' of any suchcopyrighted material as provided for in section 107 of the US Copyright Law.In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, the material on this site isdistributed without profit to those who have expressed a prior interest inreceiving the included information for research and educational purposes.For more information go to: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml.If you wish to use copyrighted material from this site for purposes of yourown that go beyond 'fair use', you must obtain permission from the copyrightowner.>>

November 10, 2003

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It does not cost $40 per 22 oz. That price was due to the cost of overnight shipping.. The actual product for a case of 12-22oz bottles is about $70+ shipping.

Vinegar will not do the same thing, and I believe vinegar has contributed to the problem with mold here. I do my own cultures and vinegar do nothing to control it.

NOVI-GUARD kills on contact and leaves a non water soluble coating which prevents regrowth. It not only kills the spore but the root also( and seems to penetrate wood)

The ingredients listed are Phenol, Ortho-phenylphenol, Ethanol, Isopropanol.

It is anyones choice to buy or not too. I do not make anything on this product. I am just trying to help other victims like myself. I know it works, it has saved me. Considerring how effective it is and the fact that it can prevent reinfestation the price is pretty low.

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I am troubled by the price of the product. $40 for a 22oz bottle is too much. I did not find the MSDS sheet and active ingredients list for this product. Until I see both, I wouldn't but the product.

My guess it contains the same active ingredients as the much cheaper products you can find here:

http://jon-doninc.com/catalog/default.php?cPath=82_2464

I am in the process of gutting out the finished basement in the 30 year old house we bought about two years ago. The rim joist area is full of light-colored mold. I have purchased the fiberlock shockwave and IAQ2000 product to use to kill/clean the mold. I then plan on painting the entire floor joist/rim joist with the Fibrelock encasement paint.

I can't say the Fibrelock product is any better than novi-guard but it is much more affordable.

Joe Esposito

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Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 12:56 PM Subject: [] Novi-Guard- Kills mold!!!

> I have talked to the Co. which makes Novi-Guard, and am trying > to work something out, so that victims will be able to get the > product without having to buy full cases. > For anyone living in the Denver area we can help you out with the > product now, we just received the our shipment. But, could only > afford to get the 22oz and the 5-gal size. I hope to get the 1-gal > size soon. > For others from other area too far to pick up please e-mail me > privately if you need it in the smaller than case quantities. I will > be working on the shipping issue Tina > > > > FAIR USE NOTICE: > > This site contains copyrighted material the use of which has not always been specifically authorized by the copyright owner. We are making such material available in our efforts to advance understanding of environmental, political, human rights, economic, democracy, scientific, and social justice issues, etc. We believe this constitutes a 'fair use' of any such copyrighted material as provided for in section 107 of the US Copyright Law. In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, the material on this site is distributed without profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for research and educational purposes. For more information go to: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml. If you wish to use copyrighted material from this site for purposes of your own that go beyond 'fair use', you must obtain permission from the copyright owner. > >

November 10, 2003

It does not cost $40 per 22 oz. That price was due to the cost of overnight shipping.. The actual product for a case of 12-22oz bottles is about $70+ shipping.

Vinegar will not do the same thing, and I believe vinegar has contributed to the problem with mold here. I do my own cultures and vinegar does nothing to control it.

NOVI-GUARD kills on contact and leaves a non water soluble coating which prevents regrowth. It not only kills the spore but the root also( and seems to penetrate wood)

The ingredients listed are Phenol, Ortho-phenylphenol, Ethanol, Isopropanol.

It is anyones choice to buy or not too. I do not make anything on this product. I am just trying to help other victims like myself. I know it works, it has saved me. Considerring how effective it is and the fact that it can prevent reinfestation the price is pretty low.

I am sorry so many victims have been hurt by this mess and all of the coverups going on. I work with countless victims in my area, I am only trying to help an otherwise helpless situation. If you call the company you can get all theinformation you want.

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I am troubled by the price of the product. $40 for a 22oz bottle is too

much. I did not find the MSDS sheet and active ingredients list for this

product. Until I see both, I wouldn't but the product.

My guess it contains the same active ingredients as the much cheaper

products you can find here:

http://jon-doninc.com/catalog/default.php?cPath=82_2464

I am in the process of gutting out the finished basement in the 30 year old

house we bought about two years ago. The rim joist area is full of

light-colored mold. I have purchased the fiberlock shockwave and IAQ2000

product to use to kill/clean the mold. I then plan on painting the entire

floor joist/rim joist with the Fibrelock encasement paint.

I can't say the Fibrelock product is any better than novi-guard but it is

much more affordable.

Joe Esposito

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