Guest guest Posted August 31, 2001 Report Share Posted August 31, 2001 Hi Florence, Welcome to the group. I can give basic answers to a couple of your questions. DMSA removes mercury (and lead) from the body, ALA reportedly removes mercury from the brain. One can do just ALA without the DMSA. The every 3/4 hour dosing (day and night) has to do with the half life of the DMSA and not wanting it to just move the mercury around. The doctor is basing his info on the Physician's Desk Reference entry for lead chelation without understanding the way the DMSA really functions. Andy can give you the chemistry details. You're wise to question the doctor IMO. Moria can tell you how to get DMSA without a doctor. Can you get ALA in health food stores as we can here? Liver function test is because improper use of chelators can cause liver problems. S -------------------------------------------------------------- Hello Andy and everyone. I am new to the group. I have a 4.5 year old autistic boy who is heavy metal toxic. He weighs just a little less than 40 lbs (18 kg) His elemental hair test results from GSDL show the following : Aluminum 9 (reference 0 to 9) Antimony 0.07 (reference 0 to 0.03) Arsenic 0.131 (reference 0 to 0.1) Barium 0.92 (reference 0 to 1.45) Bismuth <0.025 (reference 0 to 0.2) Cadmium 0.099 (reference 0 to 1.5) Lead 2.92 (reference 0 to 0.5) Mercury 4.9 (reference 0 to 1) Nickel 0.249 (reference 0 to 0.4) Thallium 0.0017 (reference 0 to 0.0012) Tin 0.44 (reference 0 to 0.28) Uranium <0.025 (0 to 0.06) His DAN doctor recommends chelation with DMSA only. ALA to be added later. He also suggested doing a mercury provocative test. He explained that this was necessary to check what is coming out, when to stop and when to add ALA. Is this true ? When I asked if we could go straight into chelation, he suggested doing the post part of the provocative test. May I know whether that is necessary ? May I know why ALA has to be added later and not together at the start of the chelation treatment. After reading some of the posts, I found that if I were to follow Andy’s recommended dosage it would be about 20 to 25 mg of DMSA every 4 hours but my DAN doctor suggested doing it every 8 hours. When I informed him that my son still wears nappies at night, he suggests giving the DMSA every 12 hours. Is this okay ? ly speaking, I am beginning to feel nervous about seeing this doctor for chelation after reading the posts from this group. Can I also know what the full blood count and the liver function tests to be done prior to the treatment are for ? Right now, my son is on the following supplements : - super nuthera 6 mls daily - zinc 15 mg daily - calcium about 650 mg daily (he doesn’t consume any milk) - Vit C about 2000 mg daily - CLO about 15 mls daily - Acidophillus plus 1 tsp daily - TMG 250 mg daily Are there any other supplements that he needs to take ? The DAN doctor suggests MSM but I prefer to only supplement with MSM during chelation as I am afraid that doing it prior to chelation will cause the mercury to “travel” to other parts of the body. Also, with 1.5 to 2 hours after consuming MSM (1000 mg), my son’s lips become terribly red. They are already very red usually. Do you know the reason why ? My son coughs in his sleep almost every night. He is asthmatic. We have already provided him with anti-dustmite mattress, bolster and pillow covers but he still coughs almost every night. Is it safe to carry out chelation ? Would appreciate your advice. God bless ! Florence (Singaporean mother of Noah – 4.5 years (autistic) and Lois – 2 years (NT)) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2001 Report Share Posted August 31, 2001 Florence, welcome! I am also a newcomer, but just wanted to say that your feelings so much reflect my own! Also, our son is the same age. Be assured you will find help here. I have already started to go through the FAQ and am finding them very helpful...................take a look. God bless you and Noah too..................remember the reason for the rainbow?! [ ] Hello, I am new > Hello Andy and everyone. > > I am new to the group. I have a 4.5 year old autistic > boy who is heavy metal toxic. He weighs just a little > less than 40 lbs (18 kg) His elemental hair test > results from GSDL show the following : > > Aluminum 9 (reference 0 to 9) > Antimony 0.07 (reference 0 to 0.03) > Arsenic 0.131 (reference 0 to 0.1) > Barium 0.92 (reference 0 to 1.45) > Bismuth <0.025 (reference 0 to 0.2) > Cadmium 0.099 (reference 0 to 1.5) > Lead 2.92 (reference 0 to 0.5) > Mercury 4.9 (reference 0 to 1) > Nickel 0.249 (reference 0 to 0.4) > Thallium 0.0017 (reference 0 to 0.0012) > Tin 0.44 (reference 0 to 0.28) > Uranium <0.025 (0 to 0.06) > > His DAN doctor recommends chelation with DMSA only. > ALA to be added later. He also suggested doing a > mercury provocative test. He explained that this was > necessary to check what is coming out, when to stop > and when to add ALA. > Is this true ? When I asked if we could go straight > into chelation, he suggested doing the post part of > the provocative test. May I know whether that is > necessary ? May I know why ALA has to be added later > and not together at the start of the chelation > treatment. > > After reading some of the posts, I found that if I > were to follow Andy's recommended dosage it would be > about 20 to 25 mg of DMSA every 4 hours but my DAN > doctor suggested doing it every 8 hours. When I > informed him that my son still wears nappies at night, > he suggests giving the DMSA every 12 hours. Is this > okay ? > > ly speaking, I am beginning to feel nervous about > seeing this doctor for chelation after reading the > posts from this group. > > Can I also know what the full blood count and the > liver function tests to be done prior to the treatment > are for ? > > Right now, my son is on the following supplements : > - super nuthera 6 mls daily > - zinc 15 mg daily > - calcium about 650 mg daily (he doesn't consume any > milk) > - Vit C about 2000 mg daily > - CLO about 15 mls daily > - Acidophillus plus 1 tsp daily > - TMG 250 mg daily > > Are there any other supplements that he needs to take > ? The DAN doctor suggests MSM but I prefer to only > supplement with MSM during chelation as I am afraid > that doing it prior to chelation will cause the > mercury to " travel " to other parts of the body. > > Also, with 1.5 to 2 hours after consuming MSM (1000 > mg), my son's lips become terribly red. They are > already very red usually. Do you know the reason why ? > > My son coughs in his sleep almost every night. He is > asthmatic. We have already provided him with > anti-dustmite mattress, bolster and pillow covers but > he still coughs almost every night. Is it safe to > carry out chelation ? > > Would appreciate your advice. God bless ! > > > Florence > (Singaporean mother of Noah - 4.5 years (autistic) and > Lois - 2 years (NT)) > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 1, 2001 Report Share Posted September 1, 2001 > Hello Andy and everyone. > > I am new to the group. I have a 4.5 year old autistic > boy who is heavy metal toxic. He weighs just a little > less than 40 lbs (18 kg) His elemental hair test > results from GSDL show the following : > > Aluminum 9 (reference 0 to 9) > Antimony 0.07 (reference 0 to 0.03) > Arsenic 0.131 (reference 0 to 0.1) > Barium 0.92 (reference 0 to 1.45) > Bismuth <0.025 (reference 0 to 0.2) > Cadmium 0.099 (reference 0 to 1.5) > Lead 2.92 (reference 0 to 0.5) > Mercury 4.9 (reference 0 to 1) > Nickel 0.249 (reference 0 to 0.4) > Thallium 0.0017 (reference 0 to 0.0012) > Tin 0.44 (reference 0 to 0.28) > Uranium <0.025 (0 to 0.06) The high mercury is quite suggestive, but the essential elements are truly the most informative about mercury. See the " Counting rules " file. The lead is also bothersome. But you need to check the essential elements to see if he is an " all high " person where these aren't significant, or not. > > His DAN doctor recommends chelation with DMSA only. OK. > ALA to be added later. OK. The part he probably didn't tell you is that you need to do it every 3-4 hours (both DMSA and DMSA+ALA), not the every 8 that makes so many kids worse instead of better. > He also suggested doing a > mercury provocative test. Don't. > He explained that this was > necessary to check what is coming out, when to stop > and when to add ALA. > Is this true ? No. > When I asked if we could go straight > into chelation, he suggested doing the post part of > the provocative test. May I know whether that is > necessary ? Not medically, but it may be necessary for the doc's ego. > May I know why ALA has to be added later > and not together at the start of the chelation > treatment. It CAN be used right away, but there is some risk that his body levels of mercury are higher than brain levels and first brain levels will go up a bit, then down later. By adding ALA after a while you avoid this risk, albeit at some lengthening (a month or two) of total chelation time. > > After reading some of the posts, I found that if I > were to follow Andy's recommended dosage it would be > about 20 to 25 mg of DMSA every 4 hours but my DAN > doctor suggested doing it every 8 hours. When I > informed him that my son still wears nappies at night, > he suggests giving the DMSA every 12 hours. Is this > okay ? No. And if he said that so blithely you need to take responsibility for your son's care yourself as the doc hasn't a clue as to what is important and not about the therapeutic protocols. He is just following a cookbook. > > ly speaking, I am beginning to feel nervous about > seeing this doctor for chelation after reading the > posts from this group. Good. That is better than starting to feel nervous AFTER something goes wrong. > > Can I also know what the full blood count and the > liver function tests to be done prior to the treatment > are for ? Mostly to make the doc comfortable. Some to cover his behind from medical board persecution (something he should be given a LOT of leeway on). There is a small chance they will find things you want to treat independently of the chelation. > > Right now, my son is on the following supplements : > - super nuthera 6 mls daily > - zinc 15 mg daily More is better. > - calcium about 650 mg daily (he doesn't consume any > milk) Add some magnesium. About 10 mg per pound of kid, throughout the day. Cut back if it gives him diarrhoea. This does many things, one is that it helps him absorb and use the calcium. > - Vit C about 2000 mg daily It is crucially important that this be distributed throughout the day rather than being given in 1 or 2 doses. > - CLO about 15 mls daily > - Acidophillus plus 1 tsp daily > - TMG 250 mg daily > > Are there any other supplements that he needs to take > ? The DAN doctor suggests MSM Not unless a plasma cysteine test comes back low. Otherwise avoid it. >but I prefer to only > supplement with MSM during chelation as I am afraid > that doing it prior to chelation will cause the > mercury to " travel " to other parts of the body. > > Also, with 1.5 to 2 hours after consuming MSM (1000 > mg), my son's lips become terribly red. They are > already very red usually. Do you know the reason why ? Probably that it is bad for him (which also suggests reducing the other sources of sulfur in his diet to see if he improves). > > My son coughs in his sleep almost every night. He is > asthmatic. We have already provided him with > anti-dustmite mattress, bolster and pillow covers but > he still coughs almost every night. Is it safe to > carry out chelation ? Yes. BTW, this allergy/asthma stuff is also suggestive that he needs less rather than more sulfur in his diet/supplements to have normal healthy levels of it in his body. > > Would appreciate your advice. God bless ! > > > Florence > (Singaporean mother of Noah – 4.5 years (autistic) and > Lois – 2 years (NT)) > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2004 Report Share Posted January 27, 2004 Hello, This is my first posting on this board as I just recently discovered it. I have a few questions I would like to ask about testing your body for mold exposure. I am going to a physician tomorrow who I hope can help me in definitive testing to reveal mold exposure as the cause of my and my family's illness. Can anyone please tell me what testing they have had done to prove this? I have been told that I need an IgG blood panel. I am still sort of unclear on exactly what I need to request. Also, has anyone had any skin or tissue analyzed from inside the sinus, would this reveal mold? My health issues extend way beyond just the sinus area, I will post my story for anyone interested at a future date. Thank you for any advice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2006 Report Share Posted April 28, 2006 WELCOME JAVA RED I have only been on this site two weeks and it is the most helpful site I have ever been on. -Peggy Sunnyvale, CA On Thu, 27 Apr 2006 02:35:22 -0000 " javared5 " <javared5@...> writes: Hello, I am new to the group and have alot of questions. I'm a mother of three in my thirties. Great to be here! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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