Re: Digest Number 1819

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However, I do not want to be sued for slander by

a doctor, who will not allow a nurse in the examining room when he is alone

with a female patient.

We are getting better by following the natural alternative route. I wish you

good health.

, perhaps you would like to go back to this doctor and take a friend to

observe or something. This doctor should have a medical complaint filed

against him. Even if you don't go back you can file a medical complaint. The

doctor may try to sue you but most likely the judge will through it out of

court before it gets anywhere.

a

[Guest guest]

I go to see my kinesiologist today. She is only one who has helped. No medical doctor has. She isnt covered by insurance though. She has me taking homeopathic medicine and things from the health food store. Last year at this time I couldnt even turn over in bed . My nuscles ,inclkuding my chest, hurt so bad. I really feel my answer lies in alternative medicine. Not an allergist shooting me up with more mold. Last time I did that it affected the muscles and I couldnt walk for three months.

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Thank you a for your concern. I've learned that the " Good ole boy

school " is hard to fight. I've got enough on my plate with this mold " cover

up " . I would like to see justice for the future patients of this doctor.

However, if you do not have an eye witness (which can be refuted,ever seen

what they do to a victim in a rape case?) or a video, it is pretty

impossible to go against " power and money " . Doctors have power (brainwashed

public) and money. I wish there was justice in the real world. If there was,

we would have no need for battered women shelters. The women beaters would

have consequences for their actions, instead of a slap on the wrist. There

are a lot of " wolf in sheeps clothing out there " . We have to take our

blinders off and protect ourselves by removing our naive masks. Watch out

for yourself and loved ones. Thanks,

>From: " a M. Carnes " <pj7@...>

>Reply-

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>Subject: Re: [] Digest Number 1819

>Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2003 14:20:14 -0800

>

>However, I do not want to be sued for slander by

>a doctor, who will not allow a nurse in the examining room when he is alone

>with a female patient.

>We are getting better by following the natural alternative route. I wish

>you

>good health.

>

>, perhaps you would like to go back to this doctor and take a friend

>to

>observe or something. This doctor should have a medical complaint filed

>against him. Even if you don't go back you can file a medical complaint.

>The

>doctor may try to sue you but most likely the judge will through it out of

>court before it gets anywhere.

>a

>

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[Guest guest]

Dr Marinkovich DID warn me against " desensitization " treatment since

this is not an allergy and further exposure by the injections just

sensitizes you further.

The worst physician to see is an allergist since they will try to tell

you that this is just an allergy and treat you with therapy based on

that response.

I'm sure everybody who has been to an allergist has noticed the

puzzled look on their faces when you describe the symptoms (which are

nothing like an allergy). Then it's amazing to watch them just shrug

their shoulders and proceed on with their approach as if they had

mentally shrunk your complaints to fit into their theory and dismissed

everything that didn't match.

-

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I agree with . Allergists are the worst. Desensitization only made me sicker each time I went. Finally, the only nice allergist I saw told me, "Janet, I can help you no more but steroids. I read about patients like you but have never treated one. I cannot help you"I appreciated his honesty.

Another one shot me up with mold and I couldn't walk for three months. He said " NO ONE GETS SICK FROM MOLD!. It is only been proven in animals." THAT was a long three months of illness after that. The last one I tried said to come back if my asthma gets worse. He didn't believe either. Yet Government Workmen's Comp FORCED me to go to one of THEIR allergist. They threatened me that if I did not get skin tested. shot up with more mold, they would close my case. I refused. I was starting to be able to walk again. I got sick from a government building. Ill put in a picture. I have now lost my job because I REFUSED to go back in those moldy buildings on a shipyard and die.

Janet

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I've had pretty good luck with it. I recvd thru Kaiser. Other brands aren't nearly as effective.Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerryFrom: Date: 3 Jul 2010 08:36:53 -0000< >Reply "No Reply"<notify-dg- >Subject: [ ] Digest Number 1819celiacBayarea Messages In This Digest (12 Messages) 1a. Re: Probiotic VSL3From: 1b. Re: Probiotic VSL3From: TrVerb@... 1c. Re: Probiotic VSL3From: Marci Riseman 1d. Re: Probiotic VSL3From: 1e. Re: Probiotic VSL3From: Trish Tobin 1f. Re: Probiotic VSL3From: 1g. Re: Probiotic VSL3From: ahpril8 2a. Re: 18 rabbitsFrom: Michie Page 3a. BisquickFrom: Michie Page 4a. Re: Maui RecommendationsFrom: Wucher 4b. Re: Maui RecommendationsFrom: Jill Croft 5. gf kauaiFrom: Sharon Wood View All Topics | Create New Topic Messages 1a. Re: Probiotic VSL3 Posted by: "" beznadan@... beznadan Fri Jul 2, 2010 7:56 am (PDT) I developed a pretty severe intolerance to dairy/casein after a round ofantibiotics last spring. After about 8 months of being GF/CF and trying 5or so other (cheaper) brands of probiotics, a GI finally recommended VSL#3to me, and it WORKED. Of course, your issues may be very different thanmine were, and I'm not Celiac (my kids are), but I can eat dairy without anyissues at all now, which was well worth the $80 to me.Good luck-On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 10:29 PM, ahpril8 <ahpril8hotmail> wrote:>>> Hi all->> Dr. Aron recommended that I try the probiotic VSL#3> Its $86 for 30 packets and the website recommends 1-4 packets/day.> Wow!>> I searched old messages and see that has recommended it.> Has anyone else tried it? Does it work? Is it worth the cost?>> How much $$ is too much to justify for something that might help me feel> better? or might work as poorly as the other 3 less expensive probiotics> I've tried?>> any other recommendations for less expensive probiotics that you've found> to work?>> /april>> > Back to top Reply to sender |Reply to group |Reply via web post Messages in this topic (8) 1b. Re: Probiotic VSL3 Posted by: "TrVerb@..." TrVerb@... mamatimes2kids Fri Jul 2, 2010 9:24 am (PDT) I haven't tried it, but it is the only probiotic my gi recommended it, as it apparently is the only one that has been sufficiently tested. -----Original Message-----From: ahpril8 <ahpril8hotmail> Sent: Thu, Jul 1, 2010 10:29 pmSubject: [ ] Probiotic VSL3Hi all-Dr. Aron recommended that I try the probiotic VSL#3Its $86 for 30 packets and the website recommends 1-4 packets/day.Wow!I searched old messages and see that has recommended it.Has anyone else tried it? Does it work? Is it worth the cost?How much $$ is too much to justify for something that might help me feel better? or might work as poorly as the other 3 less expensive probiotics I've tried?any other recommendations for less expensive probiotics that you've found to work?/april Back to top Reply to sender |Reply to group |Reply via web post Messages in this topic (8) 1c. Re: Probiotic VSL3 Posted by: "Marci Riseman" mriseman@... marcisf2000 Fri Jul 2, 2010 9:58 am (PDT) Where do you buy it?Sent from my iPhoneOn Jul 2, 2010, at 9:24 AM, TrVerb@... wrote:I haven't tried it, but it is the only probiotic my gi recommended it, as it apparently is the only one that has been sufficiently tested. -----Original Message-----From: ahpril8 <ahpril8hotmail> Sent: Thu, Jul 1, 2010 10:29 pmSubject: [ ] Probiotic VSL3Hi all-Dr. Aron recommended that I try the probiotic VSL#3Its $86 for 30 packets and the website recommends 1-4 packets/day.Wow!I searched old messages and see that has recommended it.Has anyone else tried it? Does it work? Is it worth the cost?How much $$ is too much to justify for something that might help me feel better? or might work as poorly as the other 3 less expensive probiotics I've tried?any other recommendations for less expensive probiotics that you've found to work?/april Back to top Reply to sender |Reply to group |Reply via web post Messages in this topic (8) 1d. Re: Probiotic VSL3 Posted by: "" beznadan@... beznadan Fri Jul 2, 2010 10:07 am (PDT) http://www.vsl3.com/They do have a list of local retailers on their site, but the one I trieddidn't have it in stock when I wanted it so I ended up ordering. They shippretty quickly.-On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 9:58 AM, Marci Riseman <mrisemansbcglobal (DOT) net>wrote:>>> Where do you buy it?>> Sent from my iPhone>> Back to top Reply to sender |Reply to group |Reply via web post Messages in this topic (8) 1e. Re: Probiotic VSL3 Posted by: "Trish Tobin" tobintrish@... tobintrish Fri Jul 2, 2010 10:08 am (PDT) Hi sarahWhen you say 'it worked' what do you mean? I've taken a probiotic in the past but can't say I noticed a difference. Maybe I didn't give it a chance?Thanks!Trish Tobin(sent from my mobile, please forgive typos)-----Original Message-----From: <beznadangmail>Sent: Friday, July 02, 2010 7:56 AM Subject: Re: [ ] Probiotic VSL3I developed a pretty severe intolerance to dairy/casein after a round of antibiotics last spring.  After about 8 months of being GF/CF and trying 5 or so other (cheaper) brands of probiotics, a GI finally recommended VSL#3 to me, and it WORKED.  Of course, your issues may be very different than mine were, and I'm not Celiac (my kids are), but I can eat dairy without any issues at all now, which was well worth the $80 to me. Good luck-On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 10:29 PM, ahpril8 <ahpril8hotmail> wrote:  Hi all-Dr. Aron recommended that I try the probiotic VSL#3Its $86 for 30 packets and the website recommends 1-4 packets/day.Wow!I searched old messages and see that has recommended it.Has anyone else tried it? Does it work? Is it worth the cost?How much $$ is too much to justify for something that might help me feel better? or might work as poorly as the other 3 less expensive probiotics I've tried?any other recommendations for less expensive probiotics that you've found to work?/april Back to top Reply to sender |Reply to group |Reply via web post Messages in this topic (8) 1f. Re: Probiotic VSL3 Posted by: "" beznadan@... beznadan Fri Jul 2, 2010 11:39 am (PDT) I mean that I went from pretty severe GI distress after eating any trace ofdairy to being able to eat as much dairy as I please with no ill effects. Ibelieve it fixed whatever imbalance the antibiotics caused in my system thatleft me unable to digest dairy (I had no problems with dairy before thatparticular round of new-to-me antibiotics). I had a complete physical and ahandful of specific tests that the GI ordered, and everything came backcompletely normal, so she recommended probiotics. I asked if there werespecific brands I should look for, since I had tried some previously, andshe mentioned that she had good anecdotal feedback from other patients withthe VSL3. I took one packet a day for about a month. I don't have any ideahow much these would help someone with general intestinal malaise, but theyreally helped my specific problem. I didn't notice any improvement when Itried other brands of probiotics prior to the VSL3.Hope that helps-On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 10:08 AM, Trish Tobin <tobintrish > wrote:>>> Hi sarah>> When you say 'it worked' what do you mean? I've taken a probiotic in the> past but can't say I noticed a difference. Maybe I didn't give it a chance?>> Thanks!>> Trish Tobin> (sent from my mobile, please forgive typos)>> ------------------------------> From: <beznadangmail>> Sent: Friday, July 02, 2010 7:56 AM> > Subject: Re: [ ] Probiotic VSL3>>>> I developed a pretty severe intolerance to dairy/casein after a round of> antibiotics last spring. After about 8 months of being GF/CF and trying 5> or so other (cheaper) brands of probiotics, a GI finally recommended VSL#3> to me, and it WORKED. Of course, your issues may be very different than> mine were, and I'm not Celiac (my kids are), but I can eat dairy without any> issues at all now, which was well worth the $80 to me.> Good luck> ->>> Back to top Reply to sender |Reply to group |Reply via web post Messages in this topic (8) 1g. Re: Probiotic VSL3 Posted by: "ahpril8" ahpril8@... ahpril8 Fri Jul 2, 2010 9:11 pm (PDT) Thanks for sharing . In addition to the VSL3 website you can get it on Amazon as well.on Amazon, the pill form of VSL3 got 5 stars and rave reviews by 10 people and 1 star by one person but only because he had shipping problems. No reviews on amazon of the powdered version.I think I'm going to give it a try. I'll post again after i've tried it for a few weeks and let you all know if it helps my general celiac " i'm still healing " tiredness and malaise./aprilFrom: Wucher <lrw58earthlink (DOT) net>Subject: Re: [ ] Maui Recommendations Date: Friday, July 2, 2010, 9:34 AM Roy's is always great and Leilani's is very accommodating too...-----Original Message----->From: judy sonnenblick <jsonnenblick >>Sent: Jul 1, 2010 2:11 PM> >Subject: [ ] Maui Recommendations>>I'll be traveling to Maui in August. Does anyone have any Maui recommendations as well?>>> Back to top Reply to sender |Reply to group |Reply via web post Messages in this topic (4) 5. gf kauai Posted by: "Sharon Wood" swoodsf@... swoodsf Fri Jul 2, 2010 2:14 pm (PDT) Thanks everyone for their suggestions. I'll send a report when I get back to SF.Sharon Back to top Reply to sender |Reply to group |Reply via web post Messages in this topic (1) Recent Activity 1 New MembersVisit Your Group Stay on top of your groupactivity with Toolbar Drive TrafficSponsored Searchcan help increaseyour site traffic. New web site? Drive traffic now. Get your business on search. Need to Reply?Click one of the "Reply" links to respond to a specific message in the Daily Digest. Create New Topic |Visit Your Group on the Web Messages | Files | Photos | Links | Database | Polls | Members | Calendar MARKETPLACEStay on top of your group activity without leaving the page you're on - Get the Toolbar now. Get great advice about dogs and cats. Visit the Dog Cat Answers Center. Hobbies Activities Zone: Find others who share your passions! Explore new interests. 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