Re: Re: go home...good little girl......ouch!

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This had to be a male doctor, right? Very condescending and arrogant. "Blame the patient." Good little girl? If any doctor said that to me, he'd get a full measure of _my_ holier-than-thou retort and I'm the lady to do it, trust me! Janet, please find a rogue doctor that has taken the less traveled road and good luck because they are scarce and most, hiding because of death threats, etc.

Humph! Conspiracies! I hate them!

Take care........Betsy

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From: Gingersnap1964@...

Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2003 8:42 PM

Subject: Re: [] Re: Doing research paper on sick building syndrome....

I was told by a clinic doctor at the shipyard I worked to " go home and be a good little girl and take your pills"

Janet

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Betsy,

Yeah that doctor was the Shipyards "hit" man to scare me into leaving. I was told while I was at work that I had to go see him. His office full of plants gave me an anasthma attack never mind the clinic hospital is a zillion years old and you see mold in the hall ways.They won though. I fought hard for a year

Janet.

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Erk, that's quite a story. Yes, she-doctors can be horridly arrogant. This

one sounds like she wanted to peg you as someone with a persecution complex

before she even got started. There is nothing irrational in feeling as

though you've been poisoned. Even if you've never been poisoned before, you

sure know the feeling when it happens.

Betsy

wrote:

> Arrogance isn't limited to male doctors.

> I went to a she-doctor in Truckee and described my symptoms.

> I said I felt " like I had been poisoned " and she asked disdainfully,

> " How would you know what it's like to be poisoned. Have you ever been

> poisoned? "

> " No, except maybe a bad hangover. I'm just trying to describe how I

> feel as best I can. "

> She started talking about hyperventilation as a hysterical response to

> emotional fear and I said " Look at the rash I've got. Look at the

> veins standing out on my arms. Do I look like I'm hyperventilating

> right now? " she said " That looks perfectly normal to me " .

> " Not for me, it's not "

> I told her that I was a hang glider pilot and some of the symptoms

> felt like hypoxia kicking in above 14,000 ft. altitude and suddenly

> she interrupted me with; " So who do you think is trying to poison you? "

> " Good God, I don't think anybody is trying to poison me, I'm only

> telling you how sick I feel " .

> She really seemed to think that a surprise interjection was going to

> startle some paranoid delusional confession out of me.

> Then she said " Well there is nothing PHYSICALLY wrong with you but we

> can repeat the tests if it makes you feel any better but I don't think

> we'll find anything " .

> " Not with your attitude, we won't " .

> Actually the whole encounter was so hilarious as to be well worth her

> fee. When people compare dumb doctor stories, nobody can top this one.

> -

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, Thank you for your encounter with Countess Dracula. I have been so

shocked with doctor experiences. We had a female doctor who had worked for

OSHA recommended to us in Houston. We both drug ourselves to her office

after she took tests. She laughed hysterically over the fact that we could

not hear her because of our otomycosis (deafness from the mold). Jim had

just been released from the hospital with 4 heart attacks, so making a trip

to downtown Houston was painful in itself. Her remarks were rude and

ignorant. This still baffles me. It borders on stupidity and cruelty. She

slapped her $350 bill in our hand as she laughed out the door. I now have a

strong aversion to going to any doctor.

I have another story about going to the head of the Asthma Institute in

Houston that is disgusting. However, I do not want to be sued for slander by

a doctor, who will not allow a nurse in the examining room when he is alone

with a female patient.

We are getting better by following the natural alternative route. I wish you

good health.

>From: " Betsy " <westoo@...>

>Reply-

>< >

>Subject: Re: [] Re: go home...good little girl......ouch!

>Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2003 10:56:52 -0600

>

>Erk, that's quite a story. Yes, she-doctors can be horridly arrogant.

>This

>one sounds like she wanted to peg you as someone with a persecution complex

>before she even got started. There is nothing irrational in feeling as

>though you've been poisoned. Even if you've never been poisoned before,

>you

>sure know the feeling when it happens.

>Betsy

>

>

> wrote:

> > Arrogance isn't limited to male doctors.

> > I went to a she-doctor in Truckee and described my symptoms.

> > I said I felt " like I had been poisoned " and she asked disdainfully,

> > " How would you know what it's like to be poisoned. Have you ever been

> > poisoned? "

> > " No, except maybe a bad hangover. I'm just trying to describe how I

> > feel as best I can. "

> > She started talking about hyperventilation as a hysterical response to

> > emotional fear and I said " Look at the rash I've got. Look at the

> > veins standing out on my arms. Do I look like I'm hyperventilating

> > right now? " she said " That looks perfectly normal to me " .

> > " Not for me, it's not "

> > I told her that I was a hang glider pilot and some of the symptoms

> > felt like hypoxia kicking in above 14,000 ft. altitude and suddenly

> > she interrupted me with; " So who do you think is trying to poison you? "

> > " Good God, I don't think anybody is trying to poison me, I'm only

> > telling you how sick I feel " .

> > She really seemed to think that a surprise interjection was going to

> > startle some paranoid delusional confession out of me.

> > Then she said " Well there is nothing PHYSICALLY wrong with you but we

> > can repeat the tests if it makes you feel any better but I don't think

> > we'll find anything " .

> > " Not with your attitude, we won't " .

> > Actually the whole encounter was so hilarious as to be well worth her

> > fee. When people compare dumb doctor stories, nobody can top this one.

> > -

>

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When there is a gag order on illness such as this, it is easier for a doctor to tell you you are crazy then to stand up and live up to their oath. In talking to one of the FDA members, the refusal to test, treat or acknowledge this exposure is the only way they can protect themselves from lawsuits and their precious pocket book. The truth is if they test for it, they by law have to treat it. If they treat it they give up all future income from cancer, adhd, alzheimers, ms, diabetes etc. etc.etc.

The medical community only gets rich at the hand of our sufferring. They don't want it fixed. We had one nurse which had the guts to come forward in court about the gag order on mold related illnesses, I hope a few more will now come forward. Until all any of us have is each other.

Tina

From: "NANCY GANDEE"

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, Thank you for your encounter with Countess Dracula. I have been so shocked with doctor experiences. We had a female doctor who had worked for OSHA recommended to us in Houston. We both drug ourselves to her office after she took tests. She laughed hysterically over the fact that we could not hear her because of our otomycosis (deafness from the mold). Jim had just been released from the hospital with 4 heart attacks, so making a trip to downtown Houston was painful in itself. Her remarks were rude and ignorant. This still baffles me. It borders on stupidity and cruelty. She slapped her $350 bill in our hand as she laughed out the door. I now have a strong aversion to going to any doctor. I have another story about going to the head of the Asthma Institute in Houston that is disgusting. However, I do not want to be sued for slander by a doctor, who will not allow a nurse in the examining room when he is alone with a female patient. We are getting better by following the natural alternative route. I wish you good health.

>From: "Betsy"

>Reply- >

>Subject: Re: [] Re: go home...good little girl......ouch! >Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2003 10:56:52 -0600 > >Erk, that's quite a story. Yes, she-doctors can be horridly arrogant. >This >one sounds like she wanted to peg you as someone with a persecution complex >before she even got started. There is nothing irrational in feeling as >though you've been poisoned. Even if you've never been poisoned before, >you >sure know the feeling when it happens. >Betsy > > > wrote: > > Arrogance isn't limited to male doctors. > > I went to a she-doctor in Truckee and described my symptoms. > > I said I felt "like I had been poisoned" and she asked disdainfully, > > "How would you know what it's like to be poisoned. Have you ever been > > poisoned?" > > "No, except maybe a bad hangover. I'm just trying to describe how I > > feel as best I can." > > She started talking about hyperventilation as a hysterical response to > > emotional fear and I said "Look at the rash I've got. Look at the > > veins standing out on my arms. Do I look like I'm hyperventilating > > right now?" she said "That looks perfectly normal to me". > > "Not for me, it's not" > > I told her that I was a hang glider pilot and some of the symptoms > > felt like hypoxia kicking in above 14,000 ft. altitude and suddenly > > she interrupted me with; "So who do you think is trying to poison you?" > > "Good God, I don't think anybody is trying to poison me, I'm only > > telling you how sick I feel". > > She really seemed to think that a surprise interjection was going to > > startle some paranoid delusional confession out of me. > > Then she said "Well there is nothing PHYSICALLY wrong with you but we > > can repeat the tests if it makes you feel any better but I don't think > > we'll find anything". > > "Not with your attitude, we won't". > > Actually the whole encounter was so hilarious as to be well worth her > > fee. When people compare dumb doctor stories, nobody can top this one. > > - >

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I am astounded by all the "rip-offs" that Doctors get away with!!!

Our automobile gets better treatment!!!

If they do not fix it properly we have recourse to seek action for

results and further repairs.

A Doctor will tell you..."Medicine is an inexact science" No guarantee !!!

i/e Doctors "practice medicine" !

I could never get away with that if I said that to a customer!

We have been suckered into the belief that the AMA and FDA and more are

all truthful and have our best interests at heart. That all went with the first

politician we elected!!!

Doctors are now facing law suits...so they raise the cost of treatment....to pay the

insurance!!!

Malpractice ... needs to be defined!!!! Any Doctor who is not offering treatment

had better be clear why!

Personally I would laugh right back at the Doctor in the attached message! I would

say no treatment no pay!!! In all we do we try to provide value for value!!! When the

value of a Doctors "advice or lack of" is worthless....it has no value!!!!

A patients rights should be madatory and adhered to!

My dollar should have the same value as that Doctors dollar!!!! Inflated bills for services

are adding to the costs beyond a reasonable "value".

I would love to see more Doctors realize that they are pricing the patient right out of the

office! The insurance companies are in this "Hate" letter also...!

My spouse was refused coverage after we moved and had to change carriers due to lack

of local coverage. Not even the high priced ones would issue coverage!!

All because she was truthful and said she was using an inhalor.

PYA is what most of these Doctors and insurance co's do!!!

Well they are in for a big surprise from us.....because we cannot pay them !!!

We went in good faith to find adaquate treatment and received no positive assistance.

The ER room was fast to give shots....quick to run expensive tests and even quicker to

create $3500 for 6 hours of no treatment!!! (Patient heal thyself!!!).

Asthma/allergy specialists are not any better....they don't get deep enough to know the real

allergic reactions. But the bill is high because they are "specialists"....HA!

Guess we have one recourse.....seek help from each other and natural solutions!!!!

But we can also get a strong organization to back us!!!

Maybe the American Legion or VFW or if we twist a few arms the AARP. :-)

We do need to get justice and proper treatment and "respect"!!!

Oh I did not forget...the drug mfg's also are guilty!!!! Not just of price gorgeing..but of

untruthful statements and claims and lack of concern of humans who use the products

expecting a healthy healing. And instead find they have endangered their life or actually died

from reactions. My feeling is that they need to be held responsible for any addition treatment

they cause. Again they are responsible for all of the Doctor RX that result from prescribing

these medications according to the info they provide. The risks are not satisfactory for many

drugs.....and the reactions from blended medications are untested!!!!!!

I had to react to this ...Bryce

On Sun, 07 Dec 2003 18:07:22 +0000 "NANCY GANDEE" <ngandee@...> writes:

, Thank you for your encounter with Countess Dracula. I have been so shocked with doctor experiences. We had a female doctor who had worked for OSHA recommended to us in Houston. We both drug ourselves to her office after she took tests. She laughed hysterically over the fact that we could not hear her because of our otomycosis (deafness from the mold). Jim had just been released from the hospital with 4 heart attacks, so making a trip to downtown Houston was painful in itself. Her remarks were rude and ignorant. This still baffles me. It borders on stupidity and cruelty. She slapped her $350 bill in our hand as she laughed out the door. I now have a strong aversion to going to any doctor.I have another story about going to the head of the Asthma Institute in Houston that is disgusting. However, I do not want to be sued for slander by a doctor, who will not allow a nurse in the examining room when he is alone with a female patient.We are getting better by following the natural alternative route. I wish you good health. >From: "Betsy" <westoo@...>>Reply- >< >>Subject: Re: [] Re: go home...good little girl......ouch!>Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2003 10:56:52 -0600>>Erk, that's quite a story. Yes, she-doctors can be horridly arrogant. >This>one sounds like she wanted to peg you as someone with a persecution complex>before she even got started. There is nothing irrational in feeling as>though you've been poisoned. Even if you've never been poisoned before, >you>sure know the feeling when it happens.>Betsy>>> wrote:> > Arrogance isn't limited to male doctors.> > I went to a she-doctor in Truckee and described my symptoms.> > I said I felt "like I had been poisoned" and she asked disdainfully,> > "How would you know what it's like to be poisoned. Have you ever been> > poisoned?"> > "No, except maybe a bad hangover. I'm just trying to describe how I> > feel as best I can."> > She started talking about hyperventilation as a hysterical response to> > emotional fear and I said "Look at the rash I've got. Look at the> > veins standing out on my arms. Do I look like I'm hyperventilating> > right now?" she said "That looks perfectly normal to me".> > "Not for me, it's not"> > I told her that I was a hang glider pilot and some of the symptoms> > felt like hypoxia kicking in above 14,000 ft. altitude and suddenly> > she interrupted me with; "So who do you think is trying to poison you?"> > "Good God, I don't think anybody is trying to poison me, I'm only> > telling you how sick I feel".> > She really seemed to think that a surprise interjection was going to> > startle some paranoid delusional confession out of me.> > Then she said "Well there is nothing PHYSICALLY wrong with you but we> > can repeat the tests if it makes you feel any better but I don't think> > we'll find anything".> > "Not with your attitude, we won't".> > Actually the whole encounter was so hilarious as to be well worth her> > fee. When people compare dumb doctor stories, nobody can top this one.> > ->_________________________________________________________________Winterize your home with tips from MSN House & Home. http://special.msn.com/home/warmhome.armxFAIR USE NOTICE:This site contains copyrighted material the use of which has not always been specifically authorized by the copyright owner. We are making such material available in our efforts to advance understanding of environmental, political, human rights, economic, democracy, scientific, and social justice issues, etc. We believe this constitutes a 'fair use' of any such copyrighted material as provided for in section 107 of the US Copyright Law. In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, the material on this site is distributed without profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for research and educational purposes. For more information go to: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml. If you wish to use copyrighted material from this site for purposes of your own that go beyond 'fair use', you must obtain permission from the copyright owner.

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Why not carry a mini cassette recorder and record the exam. Then nail the

guy if he denies anything? Check woth your state...if you are allowed to

tape it do it. It's a great ace in the hole if you ever plan on getting

him for claiming he did soemthing when he didn't. Always make him

describe what he is doing...so you can verify he did all the tests he

claims he did!

On Sun, 7 Dec 2003, NANCY GANDEE wrote:

> Date: Sun, 07 Dec 2003 18:07:22 +0000

> From: NANCY GANDEE <ngandee@...>

> Reply-

>

> Subject: Re: [] Re: go home...good little girl......ouch!

>

> , Thank you for your encounter with Countess Dracula. I have been so

> shocked with doctor experiences. We had a female doctor who had worked for

> OSHA recommended to us in Houston. We both drug ourselves to her office

> after she took tests. She laughed hysterically over the fact that we could

> not hear her because of our otomycosis (deafness from the mold). Jim had

> just been released from the hospital with 4 heart attacks, so making a trip

> to downtown Houston was painful in itself. Her remarks were rude and

> ignorant. This still baffles me. It borders on stupidity and cruelty. She

> slapped her $350 bill in our hand as she laughed out the door. I now have a

> strong aversion to going to any doctor.

> I have another story about going to the head of the Asthma Institute in

> Houston that is disgusting. However, I do not want to be sued for slander by

> a doctor, who will not allow a nurse in the examining room when he is alone

> with a female patient.

> We are getting better by following the natural alternative route. I wish you

> good health.

>

>

> >From: " Betsy " <westoo@...>

> >Reply-

> >< >

> >Subject: Re: [] Re: go home...good little girl......ouch!

> >Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2003 10:56:52 -0600

> >

> >Erk, that's quite a story. Yes, she-doctors can be horridly arrogant.

> >This

> >one sounds like she wanted to peg you as someone with a persecution complex

> >before she even got started. There is nothing irrational in feeling as

> >though you've been poisoned. Even if you've never been poisoned before,

> >you

> >sure know the feeling when it happens.

> >Betsy

> >

> >

> > wrote:

> > > Arrogance isn't limited to male doctors.

> > > I went to a she-doctor in Truckee and described my symptoms.

> > > I said I felt " like I had been poisoned " and she asked disdainfully,

> > > " How would you know what it's like to be poisoned. Have you ever been

> > > poisoned? "

> > > " No, except maybe a bad hangover. I'm just trying to describe how I

> > > feel as best I can. "

> > > She started talking about hyperventilation as a hysterical response to

> > > emotional fear and I said " Look at the rash I've got. Look at the

> > > veins standing out on my arms. Do I look like I'm hyperventilating

> > > right now? " she said " That looks perfectly normal to me " .

> > > " Not for me, it's not "

> > > I told her that I was a hang glider pilot and some of the symptoms

> > > felt like hypoxia kicking in above 14,000 ft. altitude and suddenly

> > > she interrupted me with; " So who do you think is trying to poison you? "

> > > " Good God, I don't think anybody is trying to poison me, I'm only

> > > telling you how sick I feel " .

> > > She really seemed to think that a surprise interjection was going to

> > > startle some paranoid delusional confession out of me.

> > > Then she said " Well there is nothing PHYSICALLY wrong with you but we

> > > can repeat the tests if it makes you feel any better but I don't think

> > > we'll find anything " .

> > > " Not with your attitude, we won't " .

> > > Actually the whole encounter was so hilarious as to be well worth her

> > > fee. When people compare dumb doctor stories, nobody can top this one.

> > > -

> >

>

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