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> How do you define " toxic mold " ?

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(g) 'Mold' means any form of multicellular fungi that live on

plant or animal matter in indoor environments. Types of mold include,

but are not limited to, Cladosporium, Penicillium, Alternaria,

Aspergillus, Fuarim, Trichoderma, Memnoniella, Mucor, and

Stachybotrys chartarum, often found in water-damaged building

materials.

This is the same definition that was used by Brockovich and

California in their Toxic Mold legislation which was passed a few

years ago. Send my your e-mail and I will attach a copy of my entire

legislation for you..

Ken Moulton

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Legislation wouldn't apply to someone like me.

I get sick in places that don't bother anyone else.

Any definition of " toxic mold " that applied to my standards of

exposure would mean burning down about a fifth of all buildings.

I feel it's pretty safe to say that I am the only person to complain

of " Sick Thermal Syndrome " .

I was hang gliding over Mt Hull in Northern CA when I spotted an area

where a forest fire had burned away all the greenery. Places like

this are just honking for thermals so I flew over to check it out.

Sure enough I hit a 3,000 fpm vertical elevator, but within a couple

of turns, I got so sick I had to bail out.

It was seven long miles to the landing area and I flew the whole way

with my head laying on the control bar. I thought I was going to pass

out and never wake up before ground impact.

I had just enough strength to do a landing approach and flare.

I crawled out and leaned against a log for hours afterward wondering

what the hell had happened to me.

I didn't know then, but I do now.

That sensation has become quite familiar to me.

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You all need to look at my Legislation, especially my Mold

definitions. If you send me your e-mail address I will send you the

entire bill. I welcome any suggestions to improve it as I have in the

past.

12669.1. For purposes of this chapter, the following definitions

apply:

(a) " Affect " means to cause a condition by the presence of mold in the

dwelling, unit, building, appurtenant structure, common wall, heating

system or ventilating and air-conditioning system that affects the

indoor air quality of a dwelling unit or building.

(B) " Authoritative bodies " means any recognized national or

international entities with expertise on public health, mold

identification and remediation, or environmental health, including,

but not limited to, other states, the United States Environmental

Protection Agency, the World Health Organization, the American

Conference of Governmental Industrial Hygienists, the New York City

Department of Health, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention

and the American Industrial Hygiene Association.

© " Certified Industrial Hygienist " means a person who has met the

education, experience and examination requirements of an industrial

hygiene certification organization as defined in the Massachusetts

Business and Professions Code.

(d) " Code enforcement officer " means a local official responsible for

enforcing housing codes and maintaining public safety in buildings

using an interdepartmental approach at the local level.

(e) " Department " means the Massachusetts State Department of Public

Health, designated as the lead agency in the adoption of permissible

exposure limits to mold in indoor environments, mold identification

and remediation efforts, and the development of guidelines for the

determination of what constitutes mold infestation.

(f) " Indoor environments " means the affected dwelling unit or affected

commercial or industrial building.

(g) " Mold " means any form of multicellular fungi that live on plant or

animal matter in indoor environments. Types of mold include, but are

not limited to, Cladosporium, Penicillium, Alternaria, Aspergillus,

Fuarim, Trichoderma, Memnoniella, Mucor, and Stachybotrys chartarum,

often found in water-damaged building materials.

(1) Adopt permissible exposure limits to mold for indoor environments

that avoid adverse effects on health, with an adequate margin of

safety, and avoid any significant risk to public health. These

standards will be developed for different categories of people be

they infants, toddlers, elderly, pregnant and nursing women,

asthmatics, allergic individuals, immuno-compromised and

otherwise healthy persons.

(a) When determining the technological and economic feasibility of

compliance with the proposed permissible exposure limits for molds,

the department may only consider the health and welfare of the

citizens as the governing rule of law and

This was offered as an addition by Melinda Ballard -

(3) The growth indicator known as " Hyphae " , particularly from

mycotoxin- producing molds/fungi, should not be found in indoor

environments. If it is found, immediate steps must be taken to ensure

growth sites and potential host sites (cellulose and water such as

water damaged Sheetrock or plywood) be eliminated so that a toxic

mold infestation is prevented.

Ken Moulton

> Legislation wouldn't apply to someone like me.

> I get sick in places that don't bother anyone else.

> Any definition of " toxic mold " that applied to my standards of

> exposure would mean burning down about a fifth of all buildings.

> I feel it's pretty safe to say that I am the only person to complain

> of " Sick Thermal Syndrome " .

> I was hang gliding over Mt Hull in Northern CA when I spotted an

area

> where a forest fire had burned away all the greenery. Places like

> this are just honking for thermals so I flew over to check it out.

> Sure enough I hit a 3,000 fpm vertical elevator, but within a couple

> of turns, I got so sick I had to bail out.

> It was seven long miles to the landing area and I flew the whole way

> with my head laying on the control bar. I thought I was going to

pass

> out and never wake up before ground impact.

> I had just enough strength to do a landing approach and flare.

> I crawled out and leaned against a log for hours afterward wondering

> what the hell had happened to me.

> I didn't know then, but I do now.

> That sensation has become quite familiar to me.

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Have you ever had a chance to read my legislation? If not, I would be

happy to send it along so you can be informed as to what is says and

does.

Ken

> and all,

> Just had to share. We just got back from Vancouver. The airport

here in Las Vegas was HORRIBLE. Then coming home we took a cab and it

was horrible. The rest of my family felt fine. It was just me. They

think I am nuts. But that is ok. They have stood by me, as you know

from meeting Pete.

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> Legislation wouldn't apply to someone like me.

> I get sick in places that don't bother anyone else.

> Any definition of " toxic mold " that applied to my standards of

> exposure would mean burning down about a fifth of all buildings.

> I feel it's pretty safe to say that I am the only person to

complain

> of " Sick Thermal Syndrome " .

> I was hang gliding over Mt Hull in Northern CA when I spotted an

area

> where a forest fire had burned away all the greenery. Places like

> this are just honking for thermals so I flew over to check it out.

> Sure enough I hit a 3,000 fpm vertical elevator, but within a

couple

> of turns, I got so sick I had to bail out.

> It was seven long miles to the landing area and I flew the whole

way

> with my head laying on the control bar. I thought I was going to

pass

> out and never wake up before ground impact.

> I had just enough strength to do a landing approach and flare.

> I crawled out and leaned against a log for hours afterward

wondering

> what the hell had happened to me.

> I didn't know then, but I do now.

> That sensation has become quite familiar to me.

> -

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Dawn,

Part of what Bryce said is true. As far as petrie dishes, they only

detect bacteria and a few types of Mold. If you have Stachybotrys it

will not be picked up by the petrie dishes. You need to get a good

indoor air quality tester. Most importantly they need to be licensed

and be accredited in that field. The Lab where all of the testing is

done must also be accredited under Federal standards.

What we also found to be of big importance was the testing company

must be willing to speak as an expert witness should there be a case

against a defendant. We used Assured Indoor Air Quality of Dallas

Texas because we knew we were fighting the Government in our Toxic

Mold case. Melinda Ballard recommended them to us. Assured did the

Toxic Mold testing for Texas in the Governor's mansion when the

Bush's were getting sick. Government would not scare them from

telling the truth. There are many other good companies like Assured.

The more power and quality of the compaqny the more expensive they

will be. Good luck.

Ken Moulton

> Good Morning Dawn,

> #1 is decide how much you can afford to spend to get the results

> #2 locate a local company and either visit or phone to check them

out.

> a/ they need to be experienced and have credentials

> b/ they need to be imformative and helpful

> c/ they need to be up front about costs and results... " bang for

your

> bucks " .

> #3 cheap tests....visable molds. a wipe tape will pickup enough

> for testing.

> Petrie dishes ... cultures are next in

line and

> are only effective for the given

> close area...so many are needed...they are

sent

> to a lab for processing..

> est $20. each!

> #4 better results are with air tests....special equipment is used

to gain

> air samples from all

> areas of the home and exterior. Samples can be obtained from

> interior walls using this

> method. This can run from $250 to much more depending on # of

> samples and the

> throughness of the tester.

>

> I was definitely pleased with the company we found in Athens, GA.

>

> Hope this is helpful !

> Bryce

>

> On Thu, 22 Jan 2004 19:49:20 -0600 " dawn Runyan " <rere134@h...>

> writes:

> I was wondering if you could tell me how to go about having a home

> checked for mold.My mother has been having unexplainable illness's

for

> about three year's now.The doctor's treat the symptom's ,but can't

tell

> her why she keep's getting sick with the same thing's sinus

> infections,respitory infections,sever allergy's , uncontrollable

> asthma.She live's in a rental home that the landlord does not

maintain

> very well.Can you help me anyone!!

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  • 4 years later...

Mr. Mc Bride,

I hope that you and your family get better! Hang in there!

You should check out Dr. Ritchie Shoemaker's web site at

http://www.biotoxin.info - He has been a pioneer in developing

therapies for people with mold illness. He and your doctor should

talk.

Here are some resources from his site that might be helpful.

http://www.biotoxin.info/docs/NTP_12_6_07_Understanding%20mold%20illness_2.pdf

http://www.biotoxin.info/docs/Current%20WDB%20References%2010_29_07.pdf

http://ntp.niehs.nih.gov/index.cfm?objectid=3FE6EBC0-F1F6-975E-74ECD0F0B83EFF34

***GOOD LUCK!!!***

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