Guest guest Posted March 1, 2004 Report Share Posted March 1, 2004 Jeri, Yes, it is possible and recommended that chemicals not be used during remediation process. The EPA suggests that the moldy material be removed and can be washed with a mild detergent solution. Oxine is a product manufactored by Bio-Cide International in Norman, OK. Oxine is registered to be used in Ductwork and is NOT registered to be used on non-porous materials like wood and drywall. The active ingredient is Chorine Dioxide. If the consultant is recommending using it, inform him of your chemical sensitivity and the recommended uses for Oxine. For more information on the product, you can call Trudy Spradlin or Jim Ringo at Bio-Cide International at: 1-800-323-1398 or you can go to their website at www.bio-cide.com Hope this information helps! Larkin --- In , " shainaraisa " <shanaraisa@a...> wrote: > In remediation of mold, is it possible to do so without the use of > chemical sanitizers or antimicrobials??? I have been told yes and I > have been told no. As I am VERY chemically sensitive, I prefer to not > have these products used, as I have been informed by a very > knowledgeable source that by doing so, I run the risk that I will > never be able to be in my home again. So, is it possible to > remediate simply by removing moldy materials, and then washing off > the mold off any hard wood with a nontoxic substance? Is it possible > to remediate without fogging the space with chemicals?? And if not, > what can anyone tell me about Oxine AD?? PLEASE > HELP!...Jeri Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2004 Report Share Posted March 1, 2004 Jeri, I would say that in the case of most mold, yes...you could use vinegar and water or perhaps other mild methods of cleaning after removing the badly affected parts. In the case of stachybotrys, I don't believe that anything but removal and then incineration above 500 degrees will kill the mold spores. What we need to find out is whether or not there is another mold that will kill stachy with its mycotoxins. I would never use any bleach or chorine dioxide substance because the by-product of them is dioxin and, supposedly, mold can thrive on the dioxin residue. Pat s> In remediation of mold, is it possible to do so without the use of s> chemical sanitizers or antimicrobials??? I have been told yes and I s> have been told no. As I am VERY chemically sensitive, I prefer to not s> have these products used, as I have been informed by a very s> knowledgeable source that by doing so, I run the risk that I will s> never be able to be in my home again. So, is it possible to s> remediate simply by removing moldy materials, and then washing off s> the mold off any hard wood with a nontoxic substance? Is it possible s> to remediate without fogging the space with chemicals?? And if not, s> what can anyone tell me about Oxine AD?? PLEASE s> HELP!...Jeri Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2004 Report Share Posted March 1, 2004 This machine will kill ALL mold. if you in Los Angeles area, I will prove it to you. You know when you turn on your air in your car and you smell that mold? It will eliminate it in 1 hour. It eliminated even my brothers WARTS!!! Dali ----- Original Message ----- From: Patilla DaHun shainaraisa Sent: Monday, March 01, 2004 3:47 PM Subject: Re: [] Mold remediation question Jeri,I would say that in the case of most mold, yes...you could use vinegarand water or perhaps other mild methods of cleaning after removing thebadly affected parts. In the case of stachybotrys, I don't believethat anything but removal and then incineration above 500 degrees willkill the mold spores. What we need to find out is whether or not thereis another mold that will kill stachy with its mycotoxins.I would never use any bleach or chorine dioxide substance because theby-product of them is dioxin and, supposedly, mold can thrive on thedioxin residue.Pats> In remediation of mold, is it possible to do so without the use of s> chemical sanitizers or antimicrobials??? I have been told yes and I s> have been told no. As I am VERY chemically sensitive, I prefer to not s> have these products used, as I have been informed by a very s> knowledgeable source that by doing so, I run the risk that I will s> never be able to be in my home again. So, is it possible to s> remediate simply by removing moldy materials, and then washing off s> the mold off any hard wood with a nontoxic substance? Is it possible s> to remediate without fogging the space with chemicals?? And if not, s> what can anyone tell me about Oxine AD?? PLEASE s> HELP!...JeriFAIR USE NOTICE:This site contains copyrighted material the use of which has not always been specifically authorized by the copyright owner. We are making such material available in our efforts to advance understanding of environmental, political, human rights, economic, democracy, scientific, and social justice issues, etc. We believe this constitutes a 'fair use' of any such copyrighted material as provided for in section 107 of the US Copyright Law. In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, the material on this site is distributed without profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for research and educational purposes. For more information go to: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml. If you wish to use copyrighted material from this site for purposes of your own that go beyond 'fair use', you must obtain permission from the copyright owner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2004 Report Share Posted March 2, 2004 Remediation without chemicals may not be adequate, depending on just what is being remediated. Whatever is done, the most important step is to eliminate the cause of the original mold problem- too much moisture. Oxine is a dilute solution of chlorine dioxide gas dissolved in water. It is usually used in a steamer, and as another writer mentioned, is recommended for duct disinfection. As a gas, it can potentially penetrate into places not reachable by hand cleaning alone. Afterward, it slowly dissipates and/or decomposes. It has an odor similar to chlorine bleach, and is even more irritating. Exposure must be limited, particularly for someone whose lungs are already compromised. However, after sufficient ventilation, oxine should leave no permanent residue, odor, or irritation potential. Some rumors have circulated that oxine makes dioxin. This is highly unlikely, because the concentration is far too low when in contact with whatever it is reacting with. Dioxin has been linked far more with manufacture of certain herbicides, such as the 2,4-D and 2,4,5-T used in Weed-B-Gone and Agent Orange, and in antibacterials such as hexachlorophene. It can be a by-product of incineration of chlorinated plastics, such as PVC, a major reason most cities have abandoned incineration in favor of land fills. It is also a by-product formed in the chlorine bleaching of paper. This bleaching process is now done with sodium chlorite or chlorine dioxide to almost totally eliminate dioxin production. Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2004 12:32:09 -0000 From: " shainaraisa " <shanaraisa@...> Subject: Mold remediation question In remediation of mold, is it possible to do so without the use of chemical sanitizers or antimicrobials??? I have been told yes and I have been told no. As I am VERY chemically sensitive, I prefer to not have these products used, as I have been informed by a very knowledgeable source that by doing so, I run the risk that I will never be able to be in my home again. So, is it possible to remediate simply by removing moldy materials, and then washing off the mold off any hard wood with a nontoxic substance? Is it possible to remediate without fogging the space with chemicals?? And if not, what can anyone tell me about Oxine AD?? PLEASE HELP!...Jeri _________________________________________________________________ Create a Job Alert on MSN Careers and enter for a chance to win $1000! http://msn.careerbuilder.com/promo/kaday.htm?siteid=CBMSN_1K & sc_extcmp=JS_JASwee\ p_MSNHotm2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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