Re: Naturopathic medicine

June 12, 2000

Hi Georgina

Have you, or has anyone else heard of the below? I believe it has helped

some people tremendously?

Any info you may have would be great!!!! If you check the link out, there

are some references to JRA.....

thanks

www.moducare.com <http://www.moducare.com> .

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> Naturopathic Medicine

>

> Naturopathic Medicine

> <http://www.arthritiswebsite.com/manage/naturopathic.jsp>

>

> Naturopathy is a medical system that treats the whole person and looks

> at the mental, physical, emotional, and spiritual aspects of health and

> healing. Naturopathic doctors (ND) are primary care practitioners who

> can perform minor surgery. They cannot perform major surgery, deal with

> serious acute illness, or prescribe medications.

>

> Naturopathic [nature-uh-PATH-ik] physicians emphasize the healing power

> of nature and the body's own methods of solving problems. They take the

> idea behind, " first, do no harm, " very seriously and try the least

> invasive and less risky treatments first. They also hold that prevention

> is the best cure and encourage healthy living habits.

>

> Naturopathy [nature-OP-uh-thee] uses a variety of Western and

> alternative therapies to treat patients, almost all of them considered

> natural and nontoxic, including nutritional therapy, homeopathy, Chinese

> medicine, mind-body therapy, and body work.

>

> Well trained naturopathic doctors (ND) do graduate work at a accredited

> naturopathic medical college for at least four years, and receive

> several years of standard medical training in the process. Some

> physicians who are traditionally-trained MDs also have naturopathic

> training and ND credentials. This form of " integrative " medicine is

> increasingly common.

>

> The American Association of Naturopathic Physicians (AANP) has

> established standards for the " ND " credential, including professional

> board exams. Only 12 states have licensing laws for NDs. In other

> states, AANP warns, " ND " may not stand for appropriate qualifications.

>

> To locate a credentialed naturopathic physician in your area, call the

> AANP referral line at 206-298-0125, or visit the AANP web site at

> <http://naturopathic.org/FindND.html>

>

> The Arthritis Foundation recommends that people with arthritis who wish

> to use an ND combine this care with the care of a rheumatologist or

> other doctor of medicine (MD).

>

> Sources of information:

> The American Association of Naturopathic Physicians, Seattle,

> Washington.

> Web site: <http://naturopathic.org/>

>

> Consumer Guide to Alternative Medicine, by Althoff,

> , Dianne Molvig, and Larry Schuster, in cooperation with The

> American Association of Naturopathic Physicians, Publications

> International, Lincolnwood, Illinois, 1997

>

> The Arthritis Foundation's Guide to Alternative Therapies, by Judith

> Horstman, with Arnold, MD, medical editor, The Arthritis

> Foundation, Atlanta, Georgia, October 1999.

>

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March 31, 2004

I see a kinesiologist and she got me out of bed when I couldnt move. I find alternative ways and natural paths are the wise way to go. I am also doing antigen shots from an environmental doctor that I hope will help. Anything to help.

Janet

April 1, 2004

You may also try Ann Wigmore's energy soup, liver flushes and castor oil

packs, all available via a web search. The energy soup, taken once a day

for a few days will make you feel wonderful! Bowel cleansing and juice

fasting are also very effective.

Best wishes to all.......Betsy

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Naturopathic medicine: Aches, pains could be related to viruses

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NATUROPATHIC MEDICINE

I would like to know if there is anything in naturopathic medicine

that will help my fibromyalgia.

- Area patient

April 1, 2004

We have fibro. & chronic fatigue. We have tried many naturals over the past

3 years. Jim had 4 heart attacks, so we have to be careful. I finally

concocted a shake from a product out of florida. The shake is made with milk

or juice. The product is called Immune 26 Complete. The complete has many

vitamins. I add flax seeds (ground) or flax oil and a tsp of cottage

cheese.Tastes really good believe it or not. After three months use, our

pain is gone. I never thought this could happen. The powder is on

mylegacyforlife.net/gandee. I'm not trying to sell anything, just help. Our

energy is coming back. Not 100% yet but at least getting there. Good luck

and God Bless.

>From: " Betsy " <westoo@...>

>Reply-

>< >

>Subject: Re: [] Naturopathic medicine

>Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 21:10:44 -0600

>

>You may also try Ann Wigmore's energy soup, liver flushes and castor oil

>packs, all available via a web search. The energy soup, taken once a day

>for a few days will make you feel wonderful! Bowel cleansing and juice

>fasting are also very effective.

>Best wishes to all.......Betsy

>

>Tigerpaw sent:

>Naturopathic medicine: Aches, pains could be related to viruses

>Dr. Nirala i

>NATUROPATHIC MEDICINE

>

>I would like to know if there is anything in naturopathic medicine

>that will help my fibromyalgia.

>- Area patient

>

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March 8, 2006

What is the difference in a naturopath opposed to homeopath?

Re: Naturopathic Medicine

>

> We see an ND. I got my in-laws to see him as well and they are on a

strict de-tox diet and have seen amazing improvement in their overall

well-being as well as arthritis issues, yeast issues, and others. They have

been doing it just a couple months so far, too.

>

> skunkiesublime fsinisbad <skunkiesublime@...> wrote:

> I'm just wondering how many people use naturopathic doctors or some

form of alternative medicine. I was going to go to NCNM to get my ND and

then specialize in something, and I just want to feel like I'm going to be

doing something that will actually help people. (The school is 20,000 a year

and I want to know this decision is a good one.) Thanks for anyone who can

comfort me.

>

> Winkler

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March 8, 2006

We have a homeopath several states away. Here is a post from Sheri N. regarding

the naturopath question:

" Many people go to ND's and more and more all the time.

Depends on where you live, how open people are.

I'm not a big fan of ND's as they know a little about a lot of things and

are able to help with I call maintaining causes but I don't see them being

able to get at the root of issues like a homeopath can, unless the

naturopath has gone onto specialize in homeopathy which is another 3 or 4

years after it all.

I see naturopaths as still suppressing illness in many cases but just using

natural substances. But they are good at getting to the root of

nutritional stuff and other things.

We need more excellent homeopaths which ONLY do homeopathy which is a whole

system that heals

Just my 2 cents "

Kay P.

Naturopathic Medicine

I'm just wondering how many people use naturopathic doctors or some form of

alternative medicine. I was going to go to NCNM to get my ND and then specialize

in something, and I just want to feel like I'm going to be doing something that

will actually help people. (The school is 20,000 a year and I want to know this

decision is a good one.) Thanks for anyone who can comfort me.

Winkler

March 8, 2006

Many naturopaths practise homeopathy, but homeopaths don't tend to practise

naturopathy. Homeopathy is a complete healing system and if practised

properly is not used concurrently with any other modality. Naturopaths

often use several modalities concurrently, perhaps acupuncture with

osteopathy and herbal medicine, and they often use homoeopathy in an

*allopathic* way rather than single remedy, minimum dose method used by

classical homoeopaths. I have always found naturopaths know lots about

several modalities rather than practising expertly in one. Not saying it

doesn't get results, but it's not something I'd appreciate as a patient.

HTH.

Sue

>

> What is the difference in a naturopath opposed to homeopath?

>

> >

March 8, 2006

Oh no no no. I wouldn't just become an ND. I've posted this question before and

have been told I definately need to specialize and I researched it and I do

definately plan on specializing. It's just that I can be licensed with an ND and

only certified in homeopathy unless I become and MD first and get my license in

homeopathy somewhere on the east coast (which I don't really want to do). Thank

you so much for your post though! I sincerely appreciate hearing from other

people.

Kay <kmp3@...> wrote: We have a homeopath several states away. Here is a

post from Sheri N. regarding the naturopath question:

" Many people go to ND's and more and more all the time.

Depends on where you live, how open people are.

I'm not a big fan of ND's as they know a little about a lot of things and

are able to help with I call maintaining causes but I don't see them being

able to get at the root of issues like a homeopath can, unless the

naturopath has gone onto specialize in homeopathy which is another 3 or 4

years after it all.

I see naturopaths as still suppressing illness in many cases but just using

natural substances. But they are good at getting to the root of

nutritional stuff and other things.

We need more excellent homeopaths which ONLY do homeopathy which is a whole

system that heals

Just my 2 cents "

Kay P.

Naturopathic Medicine

I'm just wondering how many people use naturopathic doctors or some form of

alternative medicine. I was going to go to NCNM to get my ND and then specialize

in something, and I just want to feel like I'm going to be doing something that

will actually help people. (The school is 20,000 a year and I want to know this

decision is a good one.) Thanks for anyone who can comfort me.

Winkler

March 9, 2006

At 12:03 PM 3/9/2006 +0800, you wrote:

>Many naturopaths practise homeopathy, but homeopaths don't tend to practise

>naturopathy. Homeopathy is a complete healing system and if practised

>properly is not used concurrently with any other modality. Naturopaths

>often use several modalities concurrently, perhaps acupuncture with

>osteopathy and herbal medicine, and they often use homoeopathy in an

>*allopathic* way rather than single remedy, minimum dose method used by

>classical homoeopaths. I have always found naturopaths know lots about

>several modalities rather than practising expertly in one. Not saying it

>doesn't get results, but it's not something I'd appreciate as a patient.

>

>HTH.

>

>Sue

>

Good summary

Here is what I tell my students

Homeopathy - the classical or Hahnemannian homeopath ONLY uses homeopathy,

according to the principles we have studied.

He/she doesn't mix it with herbs or chinese medicine or acupuncture. It is

pure homeopathy as homeopathy is a complete system on its own and with a

view towards symptoms and disease that is 180 degrees different from other

systems out there.

Naturopathy - A naturopath studies all of sorts of things in their training

allopathic medicine, chiropractic, osteopathy, homeopathy, herbs,

midwifery, nutrition, acupuncture and more. Knows a little bit about a lot

of things.

Some, do go on to specialize in homeopathy, undergoing extensive training

in homeopathy as a homeopath would. But this is NOT the norm for a

naturopath. Naturopaths often have a very short course in homeopathy.

Because they don't have an extensive 4+ year course only in homeopathy,

they often don't practice according to the laws and principles of

homeopathy, but often in a more allopathic way. And certainly, to be able

to treat chronically ill people, you must have a thorough knowledge and

education in homeopathy alone.

But there are a few who have gone on to study intensively. But they are

rare.

And again, most naturopaths would combine therapies and treatments. Be

very judicious if you use a naturopath for homeopathy - find out exactly

what their educational background is with it. Many just don't realize

their limitations with homeopathy.

You don't realize until you've been in it for awhile, how extensive your

knowledge and experience must be to use homeopathy effectively other than

in minor acutes and first aid.

Sheri

>

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March 9, 2006

For what it is worth , I live in Australia and looked into becoming a

qualified Homeopath. The cost to me was going to be 20,000 and 4 years. I am

41 years old, and figure this to be too much for me at this time in my life.

Personally, I believe if you want to become a homeopath who treats chronic

illness, you need to have the medical training. That is if you want to be one

of those much needed good ones. My choice would be to forget the ND bit

altogether. But that is just me, so please don't feel I think that is the right

choice for you. Besides, you may decide on some other alternative therapy

altogether.

Fieldman

skunkiesublime fsinisbad <skunkiesublime@...> wrote:

Oh no no no. I wouldn't just become an ND. I've posted this question before

and have been told I definately need to specialize and I researched it and I do

definately plan on specializing. It's just that I can be licensed with an ND and

only certified in homeopathy unless I become and MD first and get my license in

homeopathy somewhere on the east coast (which I don't really want to do). Thank

you so much for your post though! I sincerely appreciate hearing from other

people.

Kay <kmp3@...> wrote: We have a homeopath several states away. Here is a

post from Sheri N. regarding the naturopath question:

" Many people go to ND's and more and more all the time.

Depends on where you live, how open people are.

I'm not a big fan of ND's as they know a little about a lot of things and

are able to help with I call maintaining causes but I don't see them being

able to get at the root of issues like a homeopath can, unless the

naturopath has gone onto specialize in homeopathy which is another 3 or 4

years after it all.

I see naturopaths as still suppressing illness in many cases but just using

natural substances. But they are good at getting to the root of

nutritional stuff and other things.

We need more excellent homeopaths which ONLY do homeopathy which is a whole

system that heals

Just my 2 cents "

Kay P.

Naturopathic Medicine

I'm just wondering how many people use naturopathic doctors or some form of

alternative medicine. I was going to go to NCNM to get my ND and then specialize

in something, and I just want to feel like I'm going to be doing something that

will actually help people. (The school is 20,000 a year and I want to know this

decision is a good one.) Thanks for anyone who can comfort me.

Winkler

March 9, 2006

Take heart, - I am in Australia too now, and I AM training to be a

homoeopath at the ripe old age of 50. I have been training for three years

now but am still only on my first year's course content because we've had an

awful lot of distractions the past three years, capped by emigration to

Australia six months ago. Age has nothing to do with it - provided you have

good experience of LIFE, you're the right age to train. Does this mean you

think you're too old to help others? Never, surely? I WILL finish my

training, whatever the cost (most colleges allow you to spread it), I WILL

qualify as a classical homoeopath, and I'm planning on doing whatever I can

to help anyone who needs it - especially those that have been damaged big

time by allopathic medicine, as I have.

As a matter of curiosity, why do you consider orthodox medical training is

needed? As a student homoeopath I have had to obtain a second diploma in

Anatomy and Physiology, and this coming year I will be taking a diploma in

Pathology and Disease. What more could *medical training* offer me? ;o)

Go for it - the world is desperately short of homoeopaths. It's my

mission - make it yours....)

Love, light and peace,

Sue

" For those who believe, no proof is necessary.

For those who don't believe, no proof is possible. "

>

> For what it is worth , I live in Australia and looked into

> becoming a qualified Homeopath. The cost to me was going to be

> 20,000 and 4 years. I am 41 years old, and figure this to be too

> much for me at this time in my life. Personally, I believe if

> you want to become a homeopath who treats chronic illness, you

> need to have the medical training. That is if you want to be one

> of those much needed good ones. My choice would be to forget the

> ND bit altogether. But that is just me, so please don't feel I

> think that is the right choice for you. Besides, you may decide

> on some other alternative therapy altogether.

>

> Fieldman

March 9, 2006

Good points, Sue. I am turning 40 this year, and when my kids are both in

college in 3 years, I plan on studying homeopathy more deeply. I don't know

that I'll ever be a qualified homeopath. But who knows what will happen in

the future? I'm not ruling that out.

I'm a former registered nurse, but I honestly wish I had never gone that

route. Most of what I learned in college isn't at all useful to me now. As

allopathy does nothing to truly " cure " anyone.

Being qualified to treat homeopathically and allopathic medical degrees are

like comparing apples and oranges. Homeopathy doesn't need a medical

diagnosis to treat as it treats the entire person, not a particular disease

or illness.

Kay P.

RE: Naturopathic Medicine

> Take heart, - I am in Australia too now, and I AM training to be a

> homoeopath at the ripe old age of 50. I have been training for three

> years

> now but am still only on my first year's course content because we've had

> an

> awful lot of distractions the past three years, capped by emigration to

> Australia six months ago. Age has nothing to do with it - provided you

> have

> good experience of LIFE, you're the right age to train. Does this mean

> you

> think you're too old to help others? Never, surely? I WILL finish my

> training, whatever the cost (most colleges allow you to spread it), I WILL

> qualify as a classical homoeopath, and I'm planning on doing whatever I

> can

> to help anyone who needs it - especially those that have been damaged big

> time by allopathic medicine, as I have.

>

> As a matter of curiosity, why do you consider orthodox medical training is

> needed? As a student homoeopath I have had to obtain a second diploma in

> Anatomy and Physiology, and this coming year I will be taking a diploma in

> Pathology and Disease. What more could *medical training* offer me? ;o)

>

> Go for it - the world is desperately short of homoeopaths. It's my

> mission - make it yours....)

>

> Sue

*****************

>>

>> For what it is worth , I live in Australia and looked into

>> becoming a qualified Homeopath. The cost to me was going to be

>> 20,000 and 4 years. I am 41 years old, and figure this to be too

>> much for me at this time in my life. Personally, I believe if

>> you want to become a homeopath who treats chronic illness, you

>> need to have the medical training. That is if you want to be one

>> of those much needed good ones. My choice would be to forget the

>> ND bit altogether. But that is just me, so please don't feel I

>> think that is the right choice for you. Besides, you may decide

>> on some other alternative therapy altogether.

>>

>> Fieldman

>

March 10, 2006

Hi guys, I probably didn't word things very well in my email due to my haphazard

brain. Basically, I do not have the 20,000 to put to this kind of thing, at

this time in my life. Believe me, that is the reason. If I were younger, I may

have considered finding a way. But my family commitments and such don't allow

for it.

Also when I say medical training, I mean the anatomy, biology and such that

helps us to understand the way the body works and responds etc. From my

understanding this is incorporated in the 4 year course offered in Sydney. I

didn't mean I think it necessary to qualify as a medical doctor.

I only discovered homeopathy a few years ago. I often wonder how my life

would have been different if I had of found it sooner. I have got a file with

all the application forms etc. Who knows. Hard to consider right now, when I

am already over extended.

Fieldman

Kay <kmp3@...> wrote:

Good points, Sue. I am turning 40 this year, and when my kids are both in

college in 3 years, I plan on studying homeopathy more deeply. I don't know

that I'll ever be a qualified homeopath. But who knows what will happen in

the future? I'm not ruling that out.

I'm a former registered nurse, but I honestly wish I had never gone that

route. Most of what I learned in college isn't at all useful to me now. As

allopathy does nothing to truly " cure " anyone.

Being qualified to treat homeopathically and allopathic medical degrees are

like comparing apples and oranges. Homeopathy doesn't need a medical

diagnosis to treat as it treats the entire person, not a particular disease

or illness.

Kay P.

RE: Naturopathic Medicine

> Take heart, - I am in Australia too now, and I AM training to be a

> homoeopath at the ripe old age of 50. I have been training for three

> years

> now but am still only on my first year's course content because we've had

> an

> awful lot of distractions the past three years, capped by emigration to

> Australia six months ago. Age has nothing to do with it - provided you

> have

> good experience of LIFE, you're the right age to train. Does this mean

> you

> think you're too old to help others? Never, surely? I WILL finish my

> training, whatever the cost (most colleges allow you to spread it), I WILL

> qualify as a classical homoeopath, and I'm planning on doing whatever I

> can

> to help anyone who needs it - especially those that have been damaged big

> time by allopathic medicine, as I have.

>

> As a matter of curiosity, why do you consider orthodox medical training is

> needed? As a student homoeopath I have had to obtain a second diploma in

> Anatomy and Physiology, and this coming year I will be taking a diploma in

> Pathology and Disease. What more could *medical training* offer me? ;o)

>

> Go for it - the world is desperately short of homoeopaths. It's my

> mission - make it yours....)

>

> Sue

*****************

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March 10, 2006

Hi ,

>

> Hi guys, I probably didn't word things very well in my email due

> to my haphazard brain. Basically, I do not have the 20,000 to

> put to this kind of thing, at this time in my life. Believe me,

> that is the reason. If I were younger, I may have considered

> finding a way. But my family commitments and such don't allow for it.

Aha - I understand totally. I'm having to convert to the SCHM course -

currently doing the distance learning with the School of Homeopathy in

Devon - but after Year Two, I have to convert. I was going to convert after

Year One (I was accepted at Sydney when we moved over) but I've got so far

behind, I think I'm betting keeping the continuity with Devon until the end

of Year Two. I have a great tutor there. Glad to hear you aren't writing

yourself off, too!! )

>

> Also when I say medical training, I mean the anatomy, biology

> and such that helps us to understand the way the body works and

> responds etc. From my understanding this is incorporated in the

> 4 year course offered in Sydney. I didn't mean I think it

> necessary to qualify as a medical doctor.

I already had an A & P diploma from my aromatherapy and reflexology training,

but it wasn't good enough for my homoeopathy training (understandably) and I

did the Devon college's A & P diploma. Challenging but very enjoyable. Next

it's Pathology and Disease. Looking forward to that. It's all worthwhile

study though.

>

> I only discovered homeopathy a few years ago. I often wonder

> how my life would have been different if I had of found it

> sooner. I have got a file with all the application forms etc.

> Who knows. Hard to consider right now, when I am already over extended.

You keep them, . And hopefully one day you will be able to fill them in

and do the training. Sydney is a great college with great people running

it. Go for it if you can. When I had my interview last year, nah, the

principal, said that they are thinking of opening a satellite college in

Perth - that would be great for me as it's going to cost a lot to fly back

and forth to Sydney two or three times a year for in-house training. So

hopefully by the time I've done my year two, there will be something

happening on that front. Where are you?

I, too, wonder how my life would have been had I discovered homoeopathy

earlier. A lot different, I suspect. But the thing to bear in mind is that

you would not be where you are now, had things been different. You are

where you are meant to be....) Just as I am. While it may be easy at

times to have regrets, we always learn from the experiences - I feel my life

experiences will make me a better homoeopath.

Love, light and peace,

Sue

" For those who believe, no proof is necessary.

For those who don't believe, no proof is possible. "

March 10, 2006

I understand, . That's why I'm having to wait until my kids are

in college before I can focus on what " I " want to be when I grow

up.

I'm doing as much as I can by way of reading books and information

online in the meantime.

And I know some lay homeopaths that are pretty awesome in their

skills. I guess it comes naturally to some. They of course have

studied homeopathy in depth on their own or with a mentor, but no

formal education in it.

And 40 is young. You've got lots of time to decide.

Kay P.

*****************

> Hi guys, I probably didn't word things very well in my email due to

my haphazard brain. Basically, I do not have the 20,000 to put to

this kind of thing, at this time in my life. Believe me, that is the

reason. If I were younger, I may have considered finding a way. But

my family commitments and such don't allow for it.

>

> Also when I say medical training, I mean the anatomy, biology and

such that helps us to understand the way the body works and responds

etc. From my understanding this is incorporated in the 4 year course

offered in Sydney. I didn't mean I think it necessary to qualify as

a medical doctor.

>

> I only discovered homeopathy a few years ago. I often wonder how

my life would have been different if I had of found it sooner. I

have got a file with all the application forms etc. Who knows. Hard

to consider right now, when I am already over extended.

>

> Fieldman

March 10, 2006

I just figured with a license in something, I would be left a lone a little more

than those that just go to get a certificate in homeopathy. I know people that

are way too into titles and I would get an N.D. long before I would an M.D. I

don't really want M.D. attached to my name because I feel like that would push

away some people...and doesn't the world have enough M.D.s? It's like

accounting....my roommate asked me why I would waste so much money and time on

something that isn't even respected and asked why I wouldn't become something

more practical like her....an accountant. Is there some type of accountant

shortage? Don't get me wrong...they are extremely important people. I just don't

think we need any more at this point. I was just thinking of getting the N.D.

first because I feel like it would comfort people to know that I spent time

getting licensed for something. But maybe I put too much emphasis on this whole

license/certified issue when it's really quite irrelevant.

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March 10, 2006

I think a lot of licensure issues are so political that it renders a lot

of the 'credibility' pretty meaningless. " Just " a certificate in

homeopathy can take four years to earn....just like an ND degree

takes...the difference (aside from practice modalities etc) is that NDs

are licensed in SOME states (not in others) and homeopaths are not

regulated in most states ( I can only think of arizona which requires

licensure with the state to practice but there may be a couple of

others). You can see regulation as a good thing or a bad thing....it

tends to really create a homogenous group of practitioners in my

opinion-based primarily on the contrast of the limited number of

licensable mental health care professions in the US vs the much larger

number in the UK....

skunkiesublime fsinisbad wrote:

> I just figured with a license in something, I would be left a lone a

> little more than those that just go to get a certificate in

> homeopathy. I know people that are way too into titles and I would get

> an N.D. long before I would an M.D. I don't really want M.D. attached

> to my name because I feel like that would push away some people...and

> doesn't the world have enough M.D.s? It's like accounting....my

> roommate asked me why I would waste so much money and time on

> something that isn't even respected and asked why I wouldn't become

> something more practical like her....an accountant. Is there some type

> of accountant shortage? Don't get me wrong...they are extremely

> important people. I just don't think we need any more at this point. I

> was just thinking of getting the N.D. first because I feel like it

> would comfort people to know that I spent time getting licensed for

> something. But maybe I put too much emphasis on this whole

> license/certified issue when it's really quite irrelevant.

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March 10, 2006

I agree with you. I'm just trying to do the best thing for myself....and at this

point I'm so confused with licensing issues and certificate issues and yada

yada. If I could forget the ND and still have people respect that I am only

certified in something, then I wouldn't even bother becoming and ND. I've just

been under the impression I had to in order for people to take me seriously. I

realize now though, I don't know enough about all of this and I need to research

much much more to find the best path for what my goals are. I just want to help

people the best way that I can and I want them to be comfortable with me helping

them. I don't wnat people to think " oh well she's not licensed so she doesn't

know shit. " I want to have friendships with my patients and I want them to know

I really do care about them and I don't just want their money! I want them to

know I will keep their best interests in my mind whole heartedly. I know I

shouldn't worry about licenses and certificates or

whatever....I just keep hearing people talk SO much shit about my sister and

what she does because she's " nothing " in the medical world. She isn't a

doctor...she hasn't taken classes or anything. I know she knows what she talking

about....but it seems no one trusts her because she lacks a " title " . I just

don't want to be in the same boat.

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March 11, 2006

Well I have no doubt, that if you were to become a qualified homeopath, who was

someone people could trust. There would be more than enough clients on this

list alone. Many homeopaths treat patients long distance without any trouble

too. I know that if I really feel the need to find someone myself, I can find

one through avenues on this list. Personally, I don't care about the diplomas

and certificates. Just weather or not a person is good at what they do.

I totally understand where you are coming from. I felt the same way once. We

have all been conditioned to believe that a certificate, representing some kind

of advanced education makes us more qualified. Thats what they are teaching in

schools nowadays. And they kind of make it that you have to have a license to

get the big bucks. There are plenty of people I know, from my generation, who

do fine without even being literate. Most of them are still highly intelligent

people. What is important, is your passion. And your personal healing touch.

Your faith in your own self will help you overcome your indecision.

When it comes to licenses. They are issued according to a persons education

and ethics. Many people obtain these licenses fraudulently anyway. Some people

cheat their way through school. We have a huge case at the moment here in

Australia. Most people here will know of Doctor Patel. Licenses just feed an

illusion all those sheeple have out there.

Anyway, I hope this helps you in some way. I'm pretty sure you have all our

support, no matter which way you go.

Fieldman

skunkiesublime fsinisbad <skunkiesublime@...> wrote:

I just figured with a license in something, I would be left a lone a little

more than those that just go to get a certificate in homeopathy. I know people

that are way too into titles and I would get an N.D. long before I would an M.D.

I don't really want M.D. attached to my name because I feel like that would push