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In a message dated 6/2/01 3:24:14 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

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<< Twinlabs stops making BHT

In July, Twinlabs stopped making BHT, Butylated HydroxyToulene, an

antioxidant that many people have used to prevent and treat herpes and

other lipid-envelope infections. Several persons have called me asking

where to obtain BHT and the answer is I have not been able to locate

another source. Persons with herpes have had good results with LDM-100

(Lomatium dissectum) by the Spice West Co. LDM-100 can be used both

topically and orally. Oral use: 40 drops in water 3 times a day. Topically:

10 drops in one tsp. of water and apply directly on the herpes lesions or

shingles 3 times daily.

Update: BHT is available from www.vrp.com.

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Hiya all

All I could find on the Spice West site was 4 kinds of salad dressing.

What is Lomatium dissectum?

I did not know about BHT, Butylated HydroxyToulene used to treat herpes.

I have Herpes simplex cold sores and in the past was able to control with

l-Lysine daily. However, last September I made lemon balm (Melossa

officinalis) tincture and began to use it in December when my prescription

for Amentadine got screwed up and I ran out of l-Lysine..

I take about 1 teaspoon of the Lemon balm tincture every day and not only

have not had a coldsore outbreak since then I also feel my immune system is

stronger. Fewer issues of bronchitis, colds..... no flue.

I made 3 pints last weekend and will make another batch this weekend.

They need to age ago three months. I want to have enough on hand to boost my

dose significantly and see what happens.

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Hi

I needed to do this as I was not digesting food due to drugs that were

prescribed in the past and I did not have a need for now.

However, I was not able to digest without the aid of the enzymes.

I think harrolds info is great as I also have Osteoporosis( bad) thanks to

17yrs on pred...now menopause.

Marge

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>There are 13 messages in this issue.

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>Topics in this digest:

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> 1. Doctors

> From: " Peebles " <robert.peebles@...>

> 2. Re: Finnish study on trichothecenes, zealarones and

>ochratoxin A in cereal

> From: " aerobiologicalsolutions " <gw@...>

> 3. Re: Doctors

> From: WshUponAStr@...

> 4. Thank You for Your Support

> From: " tigerpaw2c " <tigerpaw2C@...>

> 5. Re: Strange Approach

> From: brycervics@...

> 6. MOLD Problems

> From: " tigerpaw2c " <tigerpaw2C@...>

> 7. Re: MOLD Problems/plumbers

> From: " erik_johnson_96140 " <erikj6@...>

> 8. Nanotechnology

> From: Angel MCS <jap2bemc@...>

> 9. Re: Doctors

> From: Angel MCS <jap2bemc@...>

> 10. Re: Doctors

> From: Angel MCS <jap2bemc@...>

> 11. Re: Doctors

> From: WshUponAStr@...

> 12. stucco home

> From: " shainaraisa " <shanaraisa@...>

> 13. mold inspection for purchase of home

> From: " shainaraisa " <shanaraisa@...>

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>Message: 1

> Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2004 00:36:29 -0000

> From: " Peebles " <robert.peebles@...>

>Subject: Doctors

>

>Greetings,

>

>Please excuse cross posts...

>

>My wife is very ill from toxic mold poisoning. We are very confident

>in the doctor she is seeing, but would like to see another doctor for

>a second opinion. (We are seeking a second opinion both because it

>just seems like a sensible course of action and also because it will

>probably help in our court case.)

>

>I've heard of Dr Johanning, Dr Gray, Dr Ordog, etc., but

>I would like to hear of firsthand experience with these or any other

>doctors who specialize in treating toxic mold patients.

>

>We live in Oklahoma, but are willing to travel anywhere in the US to

>see a specialist.

>

>Thanks in advance for any help you can provide.

>

>Regards,

>

> Peebles

>www.thismoldhouse.org

>==============================

Dear - I have read a lot of what Dr. Ordog says, and I

personally would not consult him, because he seems to be skeptical of

the reports of illness resulting from mold exposure. He is an

" expert witness " in court cases, and I bet he is popular with the

landlords.

A doctor who I want to see is Dr. Ritchie Shoemaker, a family doctor

on the East Coast who has discovered a cure for a number of illnesses

that are caused or made worse by toxins, including chronic fatigue

from exposure to mold toxins. The cure involves a medicine called

Cholestyramine, which binds to the toxins and is excreted from the

body along with the toxins. He also found a medicine that minimizes

the side effects (Herxheimer reaction) from the toxins as they leave

the body. He has a website: www.chronicneurotoxins.com. He has

written two or more books about his front-line personal search for

cures for chronic fatigue syndrome, Lyme disease, and related

diseases. The one I read was " Desperation Medicine. "

Ellen McCrady, Editor

Abbey Publications Inc.

The Mold Reporter

abbeypub@...

Austin, TX 78723

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>Message: 2

> Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2004 00:40:49 -0000

> From: " aerobiologicalsolutions " <gw@...>

>Subject: Re: Finnish study on trichothecenes, zealarones and

>ochratoxin A in cereal

>

>,

>

>I could not get the study. I even searched Pubmed using different

>keywords. Can you supply me the authors, publication (date, volume

>and pages) and the publisher.

>

>It is not unusual to get mold exposure in the air and also by diet.

>The USDA allows a certain PPBs of say Ochratoxin A in coffee,

>chocolate, nuts, etc. I have always had a sneaking suspision that

>some vitims of oxic mold exposure in water damaged buildings also

>have some dietary exposure if they eat certain foods. A good

>example: Eat old fashioned brwon rice that takes 45 minutes to

>cook. the parboiled variety has a greater chance of toxin production

>

>Regards,

>

>Greg Weatherman

>gw@aerobiological Solutions Inc.

>Arlington VA 22202

>

>gw@...

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>

>> I've attached this study. It's in pdf format. 78 pages. No more

>cereal for me. Who's inspecting the grain that comes to cereal and

>bread processing plants? Who determines whether it's too moldy to eat?

> > Who is going to be willing to dump it and lose their money?

>>

>>

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>Message: 3

> Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2004 20:01:45 EST

> From: WshUponAStr@...

>Subject: Re: Doctors

>

>,

>

>My experience with Doctor Ordog was not a very good experience. I would

>suggest Dr. Gunner Heuser in Aguora HIlls, CA.

>

>If you want any information about him I will be happy to forward anything I

>can do to help!

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>Message: 4

> Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2004 01:39:01 -0000

> From: " tigerpaw2c " <tigerpaw2C@...>

>Subject: Thank You for Your Support

>

>Dear All,

>

>After a nasty, freak accident I am home recovering. I got out of the

>hospital Tuesday. On top of everything else that most of us are

>dealing with this has given me a new outlook on life and on how

>quickly it can end. A tow rope that had a lot of tension on it, that

>was holding the tension on the main rope going to the tree. When I

>had gone to release the tow rope, which had hooks on each end, it did

>not seem to have any tension on it whatsoever, because the tree was

>lying on the ground. When I released it it spun around the tree 3-4

>times. I never even saw it, and it lodged in my neck. I was pinned

>between two trees, with great tension on this rope and I could not

>move. The first thing that came across my mind was my wife finding

>me here. Luckly, I had a pocket knife and was able to cut this one

>inch rope loose. It took off 50 feet in the direction of the tree. I

>was aire lifted to an Atlanta hospital for surgery. I am doing very

>well now and I just want to thank you all for your prayers and

>support. It was definately a horrifying experience and also

>definately a miracle that I am here today.

>

>Take care and may you all have a painfree day.

>

>KC

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>Message: 5

> Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2004 21:48:37 -0500

> From: brycervics@...

>Subject: Re: Strange Approach

>

>I note that He did not come himself...but risked the lives of his

>family!!!

>So he is not in the know about molds.

>The molds will return......the tests were likely not complete...simple

>smear

>tests. It takes air sample testing inside walls and in all areas. If any

>Moisture persisted...

>you will keep on with molds.

>My advice is seek a different abode ASAP.

>Bryce

>

>On Thu, 08 Jan 2004 17:21:31 -0000 " scottish_bird "

><scottish_bird@...> writes:

>I alerted my landlord to the mold problem in our home, after some

>back and forth, he sent his daughter, wife and son in law around to

>clean the place, which I wasn't altogether happy with. A few days

>after the cleaning the place, he said that he had an environmental

>expert in to test the situation. The guy came around, and although

>we could describe the mold, all visible remnants had gone due to the

>amatuer cleaning effort. I thought this was starnge that he would

>arrange the place to be tested after the clean up and tend to think

>that he was trying to cover his own back. Any thoughts on what steps

>i should take.

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In a message dated 9/19/2004 8:54:41 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

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The problem is this. The anti-nausea solution doesn't seem to work and we

don't want to give her Gravol (she has always had a bad reaction to

it) and don't know quite what to do otherwise. I realise that a lot

of the nausea is from her system changing to a more balanced pH level

and the toxicity getting out, and I don't want to throw that off, but

it just kills us to see her wretching once or twice a day and only a

clear thick liquid coming out.

The tumour has shrunk by about an inch in size. This is quite evident

to all of us. But she is having a hard time keeping up with the meals

and nutrition because of the nausea.

Any help / suggestions would be appreciated ... prayers too, her name

is grace Case...

Thanks

Chantal

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>>>> Fresh ginger tea, many times a day, and/or suck on a small piece tucked

between the cheek ang gums.

mjh

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My son used to be terrified of loud sounds: the vacuum, coffee grinder, garbage

disposal, etc. My husband has almost always ground his coffee beans with a

coffee bean grinder, and the grinder was one of the first things that my son was

terrified of when he was about 12-13 months old.

What we started doing is saying,

" Little Joe, Daddy is going to grind up the coffee beans. It is going to be

loud, but you will be OK. It won't hurt you. "

" Little Joe, Mommy is going to turn on the vacuum cleaner and sweep. It is

going to be loud, but you will be ok. It won't hurt you. "

Some of my friends used to say " Loud Noise " whenever they were going to turn

something on that they knew their sons (both on the spectrum) were afraid of.

The parents got so used to doing this all of the time that one time when both

boys were gone for the evening and some friends had come over, they both yelled

" Loud Noise " when they were going to run the garbage disposal. Then, they

laughed when their friends stared at them.

Little Joe still stops in his tracks, occasionally, when there is a loud noise

to see if it's going to get him, but he does so much better with loud noises

now. He's 3 yrs 10 months.

A pre-warning was what worked and works for us.

Hope this helps,

Candie

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There are 2 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. Re: need suggestions for 11 year old early learner

From: RIPHAHNT@...

2. Sensory Integration

From: " z033005 "

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Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 10:49:54 EDT

From: RIPHAHNT@...

Subject: Re: need suggestions for 11 year old early learner

Please respond to the group on this one. My son is very much like this too.

His leisure time consists of trampoline, preschool computer games, music,

looking at books, eating and going to parks.

Thank you

Kathy

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and Trish,

Wow... What a loaded question! ~laughing~ Actually, there are several

factors here, age/cause/personality... But there are some things that really

have worked well for us...

Most often, when Tyler or one of my other special kids has had a meltdown,

it has been in conjunction with lots of sight or sound (or physical)

stimulation with something else going on that has " triggered " the response.

For example, being in a room with lots of bright colorful posters on the

wall and louder music playing in the background is enough stimulation that

he has trouble dealing/coping with anything else, especially social

situations. If, for instance, someone didn't respond the way he thought they

should or some conflict/concern/activity didn't go as he thought it would,

it would be enough to overwhelm him with the outside stimulators, causing a

meltdown. As a younger child, the sights and sounds at the mall were enough

to where he couldn't deal with our " commands " or making " choices " .

For over-stimulation, the best thing we have found is to pull him out of the

environment into a less stimulating one (quiet, dimmer lights, not much

visual stimulation) and sit in there with him, not touching (another form of

stimulation) and let him process through what has happened. Without the

outside stimulation and without really saying much, you will find that he

will wind down much quicker. It is important that you do not feed into the

meltdown by giving more input or stimulation when they are already

overwhelmed. It will just spiral the situation. Now that Tyler is older and

we have been doing this for a number of years, he knows when things are

becoming overwhelming and seeks out the environment he needs to pull himself

back together.

(His 504 plan for school includes an unlimited hall pass that he can use to

go to the counselors office at any time, regardless of what is happening in

class, with another student, or with a teacher. He goes into an empty office

in that area and paces with the lights off until he is ready to go back to

class or talk to an adult, who then can help him figure out how to deal with

a situation)

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Tantrums I see as much different than meltdowns, as they are usually caused

by a want/need rather than over stimulation. What I have had to learn to do

is really step back before making a yes/no decision and consider the

consequences very carefully (choosing my battles). These kiddos are

incredibly concrete. " In their minds, if something works one time, it is

supposed to work every time if they just try hard enough. " This means that

if I say no to something, if he throws a tantrum and I change my mind

(thinking it isn't such a big deal anyway or that it is less embarrassing

because others are watching) then in their minds, throwing tantrums gets

what they want and they start doing it whenever they do not get the answer

they want. Having yes mean " concretely yes " and no mean " its not going to

change " has really made a big difference. Also, if it is something that is a

later, you need to let them know what things need to happen first. For

instance, " you can play on the computer after your homework is done and the

garbage is taken out " isn't a " no, you can't play " but instead " you can

after you meet the requirements " . Also, limit multiple choices. If you are

going to use choices, make sure they are " either/or " instead of " perhaps

both " , " maybe neither " , or " one of all of these " , as the different

combinations can get really confusing. If you want to let them choose

multiple things, give them several different " either/or " choices instead of

a long list to pick out of. They will be able to form a template that is

easier for them to follow in future decision making.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Crying can be caused by several different things. If it is to control, it is

a tantrum in disguise. If it is in pain, well, we all know what to do for

that... If it is just out of the blue, not for anything we can tell crying,

often times it is a release of emotion or stress release and it isn't bad or

harmful. For that kind of crying, they may need space or a hug depending

upon the child. They also may need a place they can go that is private

(embarrassment is a big factor at some ages) and non-stimulating. Getting

upset about the crying, trying to force them to stop, or making a big deal

out of it causing embarrassment only makes the problem worse and less

controllable. The biggest thing, like in melt-downs, is to give them a safe,

low stimulation, place where they can calmly process through or find

release. Sometimes younger kids (or older ones at home) like having an

oversized chair with their pillow and blanket to cuddle up in with perhaps a

stuffed animal or pet.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Paranoia is often caused by a feeling of over stimulation combined with a

lack of control of the environment. By confronting the fear in an

environment they see as safe (all the variables controlled except the one

they are worrying over) you are much more likely to make progress overcoming

that fear. For instance, a child may be really afraid of dogs running around

the back yard at a friends house. Yet, putting a calm dog on a leash and

letting the child stand out of range at first to letting him hold the leash

to helping him touch the calm dog in a non-stimulating environment may help

with the fear (stimulation will also affect an animal). Sitting on Mommy's

lap with a favorite blanket and watching Mommy pet a kitty that is just out

of reach helps with the fears of cats. Many kids have fears of animals or

other people due to not being able to predict their movements or actions

accurately. Other fears can be handled the same way. Give the child some

control over how close to go/how high to go/ when to move forward rather

than keeping that control yourself. It may take longer than you like, but it

will take less time in the long run to have them comfortable with the fear.

(now that isn't to say they have a choice of totally avoiding the problem,

just that they have control of how fast or how to deal with it when

confronted with it in a safe environment)

~~~~~~~~~~

Sorry, I know I wrote a book, but like I said, it was a loaded question!!!

~winks~

~hugs~

Rabecca

From: trkb726@...

Subject: Re: RE: Looking for info....

Rabecca,

Thank you for your willingness to share with us your experiences. We do

appreciate any info/experience you have to offer. What do you feel is the

most

effective way to overcome a meltdown? ie: tantrum, crying, paranoia? Thanks

again

for taking the time.

and Trish

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