Guest guest Posted May 26, 2002 Report Share Posted May 26, 2002 Lida I can't comment on a lot of your concerns, but why don't you get her some digestive enzymes and see if where you buy them can suggest products that include those enzymes specific to the digestion of dairy products, etc. Poor people without a source of animal protein stay healthy be eating daily brown rice, legumes like beans and corn. Aloe vera is an herb that is helpful in healing irritated tissues, both internally and externally. It has some other benefits also. Ambrotose, on the other hand, is a commercial product available through multilevel marketers. Does your daughter have adequate intake of Magnesium daily? What I do with my non-enteric coated supplements is to crush them and them dissolve them in hot water to help increase absorption. mjh In a message dated 5/26/02 9:10:38 AM Eastern Daylight Time, mystical1972@... writes: > Hi Folks, it's been a while since I posted, to read Astrid's story search > under 'Astrid' at the site. After apparently having huge success with > flax oil Astrid had a major relapse in March. She was seizing every 3 > minutes (complex partial) and hadn't eaten or drank for 3 days so we tried > to get her admitted for IV fluids but being friday night we were given a > pill (clobazam) and sent home ;-(. Anyway, after increasing her Phenytoin > she came round and has been quite well for a couple of months (only small > nocturnals), she is now starting to have day time seizures again, I really > hope this is only a minor set back and due to her eating some crap last > weekend. > > I just wanted to share some thoughts with you and invite feed back. I have > studied Kathy's list (thankyou for your wisdom Kathy), and the > Gluten/Cassien thing really hit me. There have been somethings I could > never quite put my finger on. There was a time over a year ago that Astrid > would complain of stomach pains which seemed to happen at the same time as > a cluster of seizures, the pains were not just before or just after a fit > which is why I never quite understood any correlation. When ever she is > seizing she loses her appetite, the more seizures the less she eats. She > has lost 8kilos during bad spells and ended up on IV fluids and NG tube > feeds (bear with me here, I am trying to externalise what has only been a > gut feeling up to now). There have been times in hospital when after > getting her to eat something she would vomit HOURS later and the food would > be completely undigested. I'm really not sure about this one but when she > is seizing she often doesn't empty her bowels for days and there is > sometimes undigested food from days ago when she eventually does. > > I am wondering if she is absorbing her supplements and indeed her > anti-convulsants; if the times she has relapses are because of this lack of > absorbtion. I have heard absorbaid mentioned and ambatrose, I am in the UK > and have been unable to locate them here, I am considering giving Aloe vera > juice - is this the same as ambrotrose? What is in AbsorbAid? > > Could all this really be due to a gluten/cassien intollerance? There is > only one way to find out and we will start this week after I have bought > some rice flour to make bread. Any tips from anyone who has done this? I > need to find substitutes for cheese and yoghurt which are her favorite > foods (I am vary wary of soy). Where will she get her protein from (she > won't eat meat). > > I've never really been sure about any of these gut problems and have only > just come to realise that this may be related to her seizures and > development. > > I'd appreciate your thoughts on this. > > & Astrid (4yrs, refractory complex partial seizures, developmental > delay and ataxia) > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2002 Report Share Posted May 26, 2002 Thanks for your suggestions. She has been on 200mg magnesium citrate which I just upped to 400mg. All her tablets are crushed in water anyway as she can't swallow them whole. Thanks. At 15:23 5/26/2002, you wrote: >Lida > I can't comment on a lot of your concerns, but why don't you get her some >digestive enzymes and see if where you buy them can suggest products that >include those enzymes specific to the digestion of dairy products, etc. > Poor people without a source of animal protein stay healthy be eating >daily brown rice, legumes like beans and corn. > Aloe vera is an herb that is helpful in healing irritated tissues, both >internally and externally. It has some other benefits also. > Ambrotose, on the other hand, is a commercial product available through >multilevel marketers. > Does your daughter have adequate intake of Magnesium daily? > What I do with my non-enteric coated supplements is to crush them and > them >dissolve them in hot water to help increase absorption. >mjh > > >In a message dated 5/26/02 9:10:38 AM Eastern Daylight Time, >mystical1972@... writes: > > > > Hi Folks, it's been a while since I posted, to read Astrid's story search > > under 'Astrid' at the site. After apparently having huge success > with > > flax oil Astrid had a major relapse in March. She was seizing every 3 > > minutes (complex partial) and hadn't eaten or drank for 3 days so we tried > > to get her admitted for IV fluids but being friday night we were given a > > pill (clobazam) and sent home ;-(. Anyway, after increasing her Phenytoin > > she came round and has been quite well for a couple of months (only small > > nocturnals), she is now starting to have day time seizures again, I really > > hope this is only a minor set back and due to her eating some crap last > > weekend. > > > > I just wanted to share some thoughts with you and invite feed back. I have > > studied Kathy's list (thankyou for your wisdom Kathy), and the > > Gluten/Cassien thing really hit me. There have been somethings I could > > never quite put my finger on. There was a time over a year ago that Astrid > > would complain of stomach pains which seemed to happen at the same time as > > a cluster of seizures, the pains were not just before or just after a fit > > which is why I never quite understood any correlation. When ever she is > > seizing she loses her appetite, the more seizures the less she eats. She > > has lost 8kilos during bad spells and ended up on IV fluids and NG tube > > feeds (bear with me here, I am trying to externalise what has only been a > > gut feeling up to now). There have been times in hospital when after > > getting her to eat something she would vomit HOURS later and the food > would > > be completely undigested. I'm really not sure about this one but when she > > is seizing she often doesn't empty her bowels for days and there is > > sometimes undigested food from days ago when she eventually does. > > > > I am wondering if she is absorbing her supplements and indeed her > > anti-convulsants; if the times she has relapses are because of this > lack of > > absorbtion. I have heard absorbaid mentioned and ambatrose, I am in the UK > > and have been unable to locate them here, I am considering giving Aloe > vera > > juice - is this the same as ambrotrose? What is in AbsorbAid? > > > > Could all this really be due to a gluten/cassien intollerance? There is > > only one way to find out and we will start this week after I have bought > > some rice flour to make bread. Any tips from anyone who has done this? I > > need to find substitutes for cheese and yoghurt which are her favorite > > foods (I am vary wary of soy). Where will she get her protein from (she > > won't eat meat). > > > > I've never really been sure about any of these gut problems and have only > > just come to realise that this may be related to her seizures and > > development. > > > > I'd appreciate your thoughts on this. > > > > & Astrid (4yrs, refractory complex partial seizures, developmental > > delay and ataxia) > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2002 Report Share Posted May 26, 2002 , eats " veggie cheese " . Here I find it in the produce section at the local supermarket. Not only do they have veggie cheese, they have veggie yogurt, milk, hot dogs (that taste like .........) My ex-husband is district manager of a pizza franchise. Since he took her with him 2 times a week, she got to eat a LOT of pizza. About 4 months ago I instructed him that she is on a milk free diet and he discontinued feeding her that crap. Since, her stomach aches (which were a continuous issue with her) have dissapeared and she no longer looks so bloated. i had approached my ex to ask what type of filler they use in the cheese and he, of course, says none. But I know that they use something since it would not be cost effective if they did not. However, who knows it may just be the cheese itself. Also keep her away from all proccessed foods, they seem to aggravate the GI tract as well. Tracey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 27, 2002 Report Share Posted May 27, 2002 You indicated that her digestive system was not doing it's job of digesting the food she eats. You asked about a product named Absorb-Aid. I don't know about that product, but I do know that there are many digestive enzyme products some that may not contain all the enzymes.... so just be sure that what you get for her includes those enzymes necessary for her digestive issues. By the way, another option is to give her dried papaya and pineapple, consider bitters (an oldtime digestive aid) or making for her veggie juices using unpeeled veggies and a juice extractor (the enzymes are just underneath the peel). Hope this helps mjh In a message dated 5/27/02 4:12:29 AM Eastern Daylight Time, mystical1972@... writes: > Are you saying that giving specific digestive enzymes could be an > alternative to an elimination diet? Do you have experience of this? > > At 15:23 5/26/2002, you wrote: > >Lida > > I can't comment on a lot of your concerns, but why don't you get her > some > >digestive enzymes and see if where you buy them can suggest products that > >include those enzymes specific to the digestion of dairy products, etc. > > Poor people without a source of animal protein stay healthy be eating > >daily brown rice, legumes like beans and corn. > > Aloe vera is an herb that is helpful in healing irritated tissues, both > >internally and externally. It has some other benefits also. > > Ambrotose, on the other hand, is a commercial product available through > >multilevel marketers. > > Does your daughter have adequate intake of Magnesium daily? > > What I do with my non-enteric coated supplements is to crush them and > > them > >dissolve them in hot water to help increase absorption. > >mjh > > > > > >In a message dated 5/26/02 9:10:38 AM Eastern Daylight Time, > >mystical1972@... writes: > > > > > > > Hi Folks, it's been a while since I posted, to read Astrid's story > search > > > under 'Astrid' at the site. After apparently having huge success > > with > > > flax oil Astrid had a major relapse in March. She was seizing every 3 > > > minutes (complex partial) and hadn't eaten or drank for 3 days so we > tried > > > to get her admitted for IV fluids but being friday night we were given a > > > pill (clobazam) and sent home ;-(. Anyway, after increasing her > Phenytoin > > > she came round and has been quite well for a couple of months (only > small > > > nocturnals), she is now starting to have day time seizures again, I > really > > > hope this is only a minor set back and due to her eating some crap last > > > weekend. > > > > > > I just wanted to share some thoughts with you and invite feed back. I > have > > > studied Kathy's list (thankyou for your wisdom Kathy), and the > > > Gluten/Cassien thing really hit me. There have been somethings I could > > > never quite put my finger on. There was a time over a year ago that > Astrid > > > would complain of stomach pains which seemed to happen at the same time > as > > > a cluster of seizures, the pains were not just before or just after a > fit > > > which is why I never quite understood any correlation. When ever she is > > > seizing she loses her appetite, the more seizures the less she eats. She > > > has lost 8kilos during bad spells and ended up on IV fluids and NG tube > > > feeds (bear with me here, I am trying to externalise what has only been > a > > > gut feeling up to now). There have been times in hospital when after > > > getting her to eat something she would vomit HOURS later and the food > > would > > > be completely undigested. I'm really not sure about this one but when > she > > > is seizing she often doesn't empty her bowels for days and there is > > > sometimes undigested food from days ago when she eventually does. > > > > > > I am wondering if she is absorbing her supplements and indeed her > > > anti-convulsants; if the times she has relapses are because of this > > lack of > > > absorbtion. I have heard absorbaid mentioned and ambatrose, I am in the > UK > > > and have been unable to locate them here, I am considering giving Aloe > > vera > > > juice - is this the same as ambrotrose? What is in AbsorbAid? > > > > > > Could all this really be due to a gluten/cassien intollerance? There is > > > only one way to find out and we will start this week after I have bought > > > some rice flour to make bread. Any tips from anyone who has done this? I > > > need to find substitutes for cheese and yoghurt which are her favorite > > > foods (I am vary wary of soy). Where will she get her protein from (she > > > won't eat meat). > > > > > > I've never really been sure about any of these gut problems and have > only > > > just come to realise that this may be related to her seizures and > > > development. > > > > > > I'd appreciate your thoughts on this. > > > > > > & Astrid (4yrs, refractory complex partial seizures, developmental > > > delay and ataxia) > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 27, 2002 Report Share Posted May 27, 2002 Thankyou , I'm so please you have found ways to help . I'm still unsure whether to cut dairy first or gluten or both. Has anyone tried 'The Pulse Test'? I took astrid for food intollerance testing (the zapper thing on the finger not the scratch test) and wheat did not show up while cows milk did, along with butter, cheese, sour milk, pig fat, eel, lobster, shrimps, banana, cocoa, chocolate, marzipan, asparagus, tomato, soy bean meal, wheat bran, mustard, wine, refined sugar, sod. sulph, sorbic acid (E200), chilli, currypwder, epper, thyme, and juniper. Also E102-Tartarzine, E122-Carmousine and E131 Patent blue. Anyone see anyting significant here? How accurate is this test? It also showed her to be deficient in sodium, calcium, magnesium, copper, manganese, phosporus, bismuth, b3, pantothenic acid, b12, folic and C. 5/26/2002, you wrote: >, > eats " veggie cheese " . Here I find it in the produce section at the >local supermarket. Not only do they have veggie cheese, they have veggie >yogurt, milk, hot dogs (that taste like .........) >My ex-husband is district manager of a pizza franchise. Since he took her >with him 2 times a week, she got to eat a LOT of pizza. About 4 months ago I >instructed him that she is on a milk free diet and he discontinued feeding >her that crap. Since, her stomach aches (which were a continuous issue with >her) have dissapeared and she no longer looks so bloated. >i had approached my ex to ask what type of filler they use in the cheese and >he, of course, says none. But I know that they use something since it would >not be cost effective if they did not. However, who knows it may just be the >cheese itself. >Also keep her away from all proccessed foods, they seem to aggravate the GI >tract as well. >Tracey > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 27, 2002 Report Share Posted May 27, 2002 Are you saying that giving specific digestive enzymes could be an alternative to an elimination diet? Do you have experience of this? At 15:23 5/26/2002, you wrote: >Lida > I can't comment on a lot of your concerns, but why don't you get her some >digestive enzymes and see if where you buy them can suggest products that >include those enzymes specific to the digestion of dairy products, etc. > Poor people without a source of animal protein stay healthy be eating >daily brown rice, legumes like beans and corn. > Aloe vera is an herb that is helpful in healing irritated tissues, both >internally and externally. It has some other benefits also. > Ambrotose, on the other hand, is a commercial product available through >multilevel marketers. > Does your daughter have adequate intake of Magnesium daily? > What I do with my non-enteric coated supplements is to crush them and > them >dissolve them in hot water to help increase absorption. >mjh > > >In a message dated 5/26/02 9:10:38 AM Eastern Daylight Time, >mystical1972@... writes: > > > > Hi Folks, it's been a while since I posted, to read Astrid's story search > > under 'Astrid' at the site. After apparently having huge success > with > > flax oil Astrid had a major relapse in March. She was seizing every 3 > > minutes (complex partial) and hadn't eaten or drank for 3 days so we tried > > to get her admitted for IV fluids but being friday night we were given a > > pill (clobazam) and sent home ;-(. Anyway, after increasing her Phenytoin > > she came round and has been quite well for a couple of months (only small > > nocturnals), she is now starting to have day time seizures again, I really > > hope this is only a minor set back and due to her eating some crap last > > weekend. > > > > I just wanted to share some thoughts with you and invite feed back. I have > > studied Kathy's list (thankyou for your wisdom Kathy), and the > > Gluten/Cassien thing really hit me. There have been somethings I could > > never quite put my finger on. There was a time over a year ago that Astrid > > would complain of stomach pains which seemed to happen at the same time as > > a cluster of seizures, the pains were not just before or just after a fit > > which is why I never quite understood any correlation. When ever she is > > seizing she loses her appetite, the more seizures the less she eats. She > > has lost 8kilos during bad spells and ended up on IV fluids and NG tube > > feeds (bear with me here, I am trying to externalise what has only been a > > gut feeling up to now). There have been times in hospital when after > > getting her to eat something she would vomit HOURS later and the food > would > > be completely undigested. I'm really not sure about this one but when she > > is seizing she often doesn't empty her bowels for days and there is > > sometimes undigested food from days ago when she eventually does. > > > > I am wondering if she is absorbing her supplements and indeed her > > anti-convulsants; if the times she has relapses are because of this > lack of > > absorbtion. I have heard absorbaid mentioned and ambatrose, I am in the UK > > and have been unable to locate them here, I am considering giving Aloe > vera > > juice - is this the same as ambrotrose? What is in AbsorbAid? > > > > Could all this really be due to a gluten/cassien intollerance? There is > > only one way to find out and we will start this week after I have bought > > some rice flour to make bread. Any tips from anyone who has done this? I > > need to find substitutes for cheese and yoghurt which are her favorite > > foods (I am vary wary of soy). Where will she get her protein from (she > > won't eat meat). > > > > I've never really been sure about any of these gut problems and have only > > just come to realise that this may be related to her seizures and > > development. > > > > I'd appreciate your thoughts on this. > > > > & Astrid (4yrs, refractory complex partial seizures, developmental > > delay and ataxia) > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 27, 2002 Report Share Posted May 27, 2002 I have been meaning to ask you about your juicer. I bought Wal-mart's special and it is not the best. For example, while juicing bananas you can see half of the banana going into the pulp bin, which makes me want to cry, anyone who does the juicing understands how expensive fruits are (but it is worth it), but wasting is not good. How does your juicer compare to this? Where did you get yours from? For juicing may be a good option, it is a good way to get digestive enzymes. Do avoid milk and cheese products, I have a feeling these products actually interfere with digestion. One thing that stands out from last note is the magnesium and calcium deficiencies. Both deficiencies are known to cause seizures. Tracey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 27, 2002 Report Share Posted May 27, 2002 , I am not trying to push the issue, (actually I am but with good intentions), but cut diary and start the juicing to see if that does not help her. When you juice mix together all kinds off fruits and veggies, normally I used a ratio of about one-third veggies and two-thirds fruits, this helps with flavor. My husband has his mind made up that he will not eat raw or cooked brocoli, well guess what, the family consumes a large crown weekly and he does not even know it (stupid fellow). However, these drinks are not only rich in digestive enzymes but also in vital nutrients. i also give a calcium/magnesium supplement that dissolves in water and mix it in her juice. If you do start juicing, mix all kinds of fruits, this way she is getting a variety of nutrients. Yes, it is expensive but I think you will notice the difference. Even for me, I feel much more energized since I started this. I learned to do this from reading the book " Toxic Relief " , by Don Colbert a Florida physician who swears that juicing will detox the body from pesticides, heavy metals.... Hope this helps, God bless, Tracey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 27, 2002 Report Share Posted May 27, 2002 , Sorry, I did not read your E-mail before I started my long preaching on the juicer. I wanted to tell you. I had tested for gluten intolerance, they checked for antibodies in the blood. However, hers came back negative but I have read that the antibody test is not always accurate. However, once I discontinued the milk it took about a month for me to see good results. She no longer complained of pain while having a BM. Prior to this she complained every night, mostly around bedtime, of a belly ache. All this stopped. The mistake I made, is that I started a lot of stuff at once. I stopped the milk, started the calcium/magnesium, had the amalgams removed. So I really cannot say 100% what stopped the seizures. But they have been gone, prays God for four months. This was after having 3-20 seizures every single night for eleven months. How does juicing chealate heavy metals. The nutrients in the juice raises gluthathione levels, gluthathione is responsible for ridding cells of waste. If gluthathione is not present the waste accumaltes in the cells. Another good way to raise these levels is supplementing with ascorbic acid, (vit C). God bless, Tracey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 27, 2002 Report Share Posted May 27, 2002 Tracey After burning out the motors of two cheap juicers I got the Juiceman juicer for less than $200.00. For us this was a major investment. We also juice a lot of greens like parsley, spinach, kale, beettops, etc. and they demand power. The pulp from this juicer is almost dry it is so effective. http://www.salton-maxim.com/salton/default2.asp I am allergic to most dairy products BUT I tolerate homemade yoghurt very well. I eat it daily. Dairy and wheat tend to cause congestion and increase phlegm. Everything is a trade off. How does your daughter get the needed calcium, magnesium and other minerals? There are a number of veggies that are high in minerals....... hope this helps Charlie's mom In a message dated 5/27/02 10:18:02 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Traceygrubbs@... writes: > I have been meaning to ask you about your juicer. I bought Wal-mart's > special > and it is not the best. For example, while juicing bananas you can see half > of the banana going into the pulp bin, which makes me want to cry, anyone > who > does the juicing understands how expensive fruits are (but it is worth it), > but wasting is not good. > How does your juicer compare to this? Where did you get yours from? > For juicing may be a good option, it is a good way to get digestive > enzymes. Do avoid milk and cheese products, I have a feeling these products > actually interfere with digestion. One thing that stands out from last > note is the magnesium and calcium deficiencies. Both deficiencies are known > to cause seizures. > Tracey > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 27, 2002 Report Share Posted May 27, 2002 Ladies Since the big reason Charlie and I juice is to increase digestive enzymes and provide necessary nutrients like vitamins and minerals, we tend to be heavy on the veggies and very light on the fruit. Fruit is cleansing. Veggies and dark leafy greens are nourishing. One head of broccoli a week is not much. We like veggies so we will each have a head of broccoli for dinner along with a veggie of another color, a greens salad and an animal based protein. We rarely have deserts.... It appears that juicing can be expensive..... but it is cheaper than junk food and a whole lot cheaper than pharmaceuticals. mjh In a message dated 5/27/02 10:38:23 AM Eastern Daylight Time, mystical1972@... writes: > Thanks Tracey. We were doing a lot of juicing but with the recent chaos of > moving house I seemed to get out of the habit and forgot all the benefits, > you have spurred me on to get juicing again... Heavy metal chelation.. I > hadn't heard that juicing was appropriate for this but I suppose it must be > - all those live nutrients. I really do struggle with feeding the family > (Astrid in particular) raw foods and juicing is a great way to do this. I > use apples in every concoction - it really helps with flavor. > > > At 15:28 5/27/2002, you wrote: > >, > >I am not trying to push the issue, (actually I am but with good > intentions), > >but cut diary and start the juicing to see if that does not help her. > >When you juice mix together all kinds off fruits and veggies, normally I > used > >a ratio of about one-third veggies and two-thirds fruits, this helps with > >flavor. > >My husband has his mind made up that he will not eat raw or cooked brocoli, > >well guess what, the family consumes a large crown weekly and he does not > >even know it (stupid fellow). > >However, these drinks are not only rich in digestive enzymes but also in > >vital nutrients. i also give a calcium/magnesium supplement that > >dissolves in water and mix it in her juice. > >If you do start juicing, mix all kinds of fruits, this way she is getting a > >variety of nutrients. Yes, it is expensive but I think you will notice the > >difference. Even for me, I feel much more energized since I started this. I > >learned to do this from reading the book " Toxic Relief " , by Don Colbert a > >Florida physician who swears that juicing will detox the body from > >pesticides, heavy metals.... > >Hope this helps, > >God bless, > >Tracey > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 27, 2002 Report Share Posted May 27, 2002 We have a juicer - banana's do not work, the trick is to blend the banana separately in a blender then add the rest of the juice - I did the same as you at first and was equally dismayed to see most of it left in there! I do think we are going to cut out milk products, she doesn't drink milk but cheese and yogurt feature heavily in her diet and as far as I can tell, one tends to crave the offending foods. We do supplement with magnesium citrate and calcium citrate at 400mgs each. What sort of dose are other people using? At 15:16 5/27/2002, you wrote: >I have been meaning to ask you about your juicer. I bought Wal-mart's special >and it is not the best. For example, while juicing bananas you can see half >of the banana going into the pulp bin, which makes me want to cry, anyone who >does the juicing understands how expensive fruits are (but it is worth it), >but wasting is not good. >How does your juicer compare to this? Where did you get yours from? >For juicing may be a good option, it is a good way to get digestive >enzymes. Do avoid milk and cheese products, I have a feeling these products >actually interfere with digestion. One thing that stands out from last >note is the magnesium and calcium deficiencies. Both deficiencies are known >to cause seizures. >Tracey > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 27, 2002 Report Share Posted May 27, 2002 Thanks Tracey. We were doing a lot of juicing but with the recent chaos of moving house I seemed to get out of the habit and forgot all the benefits, you have spurred me on to get juicing again... Heavy metal chelation.. I hadn't heard that juicing was appropriate for this but I suppose it must be - all those live nutrients. I really do struggle with feeding the family (Astrid in particular) raw foods and juicing is a great way to do this. I use apples in every concoction - it really helps with flavor. At 15:28 5/27/2002, you wrote: >, >I am not trying to push the issue, (actually I am but with good intentions), >but cut diary and start the juicing to see if that does not help her. >When you juice mix together all kinds off fruits and veggies, normally I used >a ratio of about one-third veggies and two-thirds fruits, this helps with >flavor. >My husband has his mind made up that he will not eat raw or cooked brocoli, >well guess what, the family consumes a large crown weekly and he does not >even know it (stupid fellow). >However, these drinks are not only rich in digestive enzymes but also in >vital nutrients. i also give a calcium/magnesium supplement that >dissolves in water and mix it in her juice. >If you do start juicing, mix all kinds of fruits, this way she is getting a >variety of nutrients. Yes, it is expensive but I think you will notice the >difference. Even for me, I feel much more energized since I started this. I >learned to do this from reading the book " Toxic Relief " , by Don Colbert a >Florida physician who swears that juicing will detox the body from >pesticides, heavy metals.... >Hope this helps, >God bless, >Tracey > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 27, 2002 Report Share Posted May 27, 2002 I just want to jump in here about juicers. I have one made by Vita-Mix and it does not have to separate the pulp, so you get all the nutrients and fiber in the juice. It will also grind grains. The motor is very strong - my husband says it has enough horsepower to mow the lawn. It is expensive ($400) and you have to order it from the company. I believe they offer a 30 day money back trial. (800) 848-2649. It is also great for margaritas! Sandy, 's mom Re: [ ] Astrid/Gluten & Cassein I have been meaning to ask you about your juicer. I bought Wal-mart's special and it is not the best. For example, while juicing bananas you can see half of the banana going into the pulp bin, which makes me want to cry, anyone who does the juicing understands how expensive fruits are (but it is worth it), but wasting is not good. How does your juicer compare to this? Where did you get yours from? For juicing may be a good option, it is a good way to get digestive enzymes. Do avoid milk and cheese products, I have a feeling these products actually interfere with digestion. One thing that stands out from last note is the magnesium and calcium deficiencies. Both deficiencies are known to cause seizures. Tracey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 27, 2002 Report Share Posted May 27, 2002 In a message dated 5/27/02 11:06:13 AM Eastern Daylight Time, foxhillers@... writes: << http://www.salton-maxim.com/salton/default2.asp >> Thanks for the info. I checked out the website and will oder one. As for the question, I give calcium/ magnesium supplements plus a one a day. Sofar, this has worked for us. Thanks again, Tracey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 27, 2002 Report Share Posted May 27, 2002 In a message dated 5/27/02 9:13:22 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Traceygrubbs@... writes: > << http://www.salton-maxim.com/salton/default2.asp > >> > Thanks for the info. I checked out the website and will oder one. > As for the question, I give calcium/ magnesium supplements plus a > one > a day. Sofar, this has worked for us. > Thanks again, > Tracey I freeze the pulp and use it in soups, stews, etc. We waste little here. There are times when there is an advantage to juice without fiber especially when one is really debilitated. mjh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 27, 2002 Report Share Posted May 27, 2002 I do have another question. With apples prior to juicing them, I peel them. The reason is because of the wax coating containing pesticides. Is there a way to rid the fruit of this waxy layer so I do not lose the nutrients in the peel? Tracey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 27, 2002 Report Share Posted May 27, 2002 Tracey I wash everything with hot soapy water and rinse well. The heat tends to melt the applied wax, the soap removes at least some of the other stuff. Do not forget that the enzymes are directly beneath the skin/peeling.... and that's a good part of what we're after. mjh n a message dated 5/27/02 10:48:38 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Traceygrubbs@... writes: > I do have another question. With apples prior to juicing them, I peel them. > The reason is because of the wax coating containing pesticides. > Is there a way to rid the fruit of this waxy layer so I do not lose the > nutrients in the peel? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2002 Report Share Posted May 28, 2002 Which model Vita-Mix do you have??? Rossi --- Crisman <scrisman@...> wrote: > I just want to jump in here about juicers. I have > one made by Vita-Mix and it does not have to > separate the pulp, so you get all the nutrients and > fiber in the juice. It will also grind grains. The > motor is very strong - my husband says it has enough > horsepower to mow the lawn. It is expensive ($400) > and you have to order it from the company. I > believe they offer a 30 day money back trial. (800) > 848-2649. It is also great for margaritas! > > Sandy, 's mom > Re: [ ] Astrid/Gluten & Cassein > > > I have been meaning to ask you about your juicer. > I bought Wal-mart's special > and it is not the best. For example, while juicing > bananas you can see half > of the banana going into the pulp bin, which makes > me want to cry, anyone who > does the juicing understands how expensive fruits > are (but it is worth it), > but wasting is not good. > How does your juicer compare to this? Where did > you get yours from? > For juicing may be a good option, it is a > good way to get digestive > enzymes. Do avoid milk and cheese products, I have > a feeling these products > actually interfere with digestion. One thing that > stands out from last > note is the magnesium and calcium deficiencies. > Both deficiencies are known > to cause seizures. > Tracey > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2002 Report Share Posted May 28, 2002 I have the 5000 model. It is four years old, so they may have changed the numbers on the newer models. Re: [ ] Astrid/Gluten & Cassein > > > I have been meaning to ask you about your juicer. > I bought Wal-mart's special > and it is not the best. For example, while juicing > bananas you can see half > of the banana going into the pulp bin, which makes > me want to cry, anyone who > does the juicing understands how expensive fruits > are (but it is worth it), > but wasting is not good. > How does your juicer compare to this? Where did > you get yours from? > For juicing may be a good option, it is a > good way to get digestive > enzymes. Do avoid milk and cheese products, I have > a feeling these products > actually interfere with digestion. One thing that > stands out from last > note is the magnesium and calcium deficiencies. > Both deficiencies are known > to cause seizures. > Tracey > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2002 Report Share Posted May 28, 2002 Dear , What is the " zapper thing on the finger " that you mentioned? I'm curious to learn whether it is the same test that my daughter had to find allergies. Her test worked and the results were later " verified " by a traditional " scratch test. " Ironically, the doctor who verified the results had no way to help her. He just suggested that she stop eating the foods that invoked an allergic response, which included celery, lettuce, grapes, chocolate, maple syrup, beet sugar, sage, thyme, corn, soy, etc. Wheat, however, was not one of her allergies, on either of the tests, and she continues to do well eating it to this day. Milk was not an allergy, but she clearly demonstrated a sensitivity to it with her first test, and she still doesn't drink it. On the other hand, she does not have seizures, so I'd probably investigate wheat again, if she demonstrated other problems. Thanks for what you wrote! Carrol <mystical1972@...> wrote: Thankyou , I'm so please you have found ways to help . I'm still unsure whether to cut dairy first or gluten or both. Has anyone tried 'The Pulse Test'? I took astrid for food intollerance testing (the zapper thing on the finger not the scratch test) and wheat did not show up while cows milk did, along with butter, cheese, sour milk, pig fat, eel, lobster, shrimps, banana, cocoa, chocolate, marzipan, asparagus, tomato, soy bean meal, wheat bran, mustard, wine, refined sugar, sod. sulph, sorbic acid (E200), chilli, currypwder, epper, thyme, and juniper. Also E102-Tartarzine, E122-Carmousine and E131 Patent blue. Anyone see anyting significant here? How accurate is this test? It also showed her to be deficient in sodium, calcium, magnesium, copper, manganese, phosporus, bismuth, b3, pantothenic acid, b12, folic and C. 5/26/2002, you wrote: >, > eats " veggie cheese " . Here I find it in the produce section at the >local supermarket. Not only do they have veggie cheese, they have veggie >yogurt, milk, hot dogs (that taste like .........) >My ex-husband is district manager of a pizza franchise. Since he took her >with him 2 times a week, she got to eat a LOT of pizza. About 4 months ago I >instructed him that she is on a milk free diet and he discontinued feeding >her that crap. Since, her stomach aches (which were a continuous issue with >her) have dissapeared and she no longer looks so bloated. >i had approached my ex to ask what type of filler they use in the cheese and >he, of course, says none. But I know that they use something since it would >not be cost effective if they did not. However, who knows it may just be the >cheese itself. >Also keep her away from all proccessed foods, they seem to aggravate the GI >tract as well. >Tracey > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 30, 2002 Report Share Posted May 30, 2002 Carrol- forgive my lazy writing! I was refering to the electrodermal test where an electronic insrument with a handheld electrode applies a weak direct current to the body, it can test for most substances, we had ours done by a local naturopath. I am begining to think that the only true way of discovering sensitivites is the elimination diet. I am intruiged by the pulse test though - does anyone have experience of this? At 05:48 5/29/2002, you wrote: >Dear , >What is the " zapper thing on the finger " that you mentioned? I'm curious >to learn whether it is the same test that my daughter had to find >allergies. Her test worked and the results were later " verified " by a >traditional " scratch test. " Ironically, the doctor who verified the >results had no way to help her. He just suggested that she stop eating >the foods that invoked an allergic response, which included celery, >lettuce, grapes, chocolate, maple syrup, beet sugar, sage, thyme, corn, >soy, etc. Wheat, however, was not one of her allergies, on either of the >tests, and she continues to do well eating it to this day. Milk was not >an allergy, but she clearly demonstrated a sensitivity to it with her >first test, and she still doesn't drink it. On the other hand, she does >not have seizures, so I'd probably investigate wheat again, if she >demonstrated other problems. > >Thanks for what you wrote! >Carrol > > > <mystical1972@...> wrote: Thankyou , I'm so > please you have found ways to help . > > I'm still unsure whether to cut dairy first or gluten or both. Has anyone >tried 'The Pulse Test'? > >I took astrid for food intollerance testing (the zapper thing on the finger >not the scratch test) and wheat did not show up while cows milk did, along >with butter, cheese, sour milk, pig fat, eel, lobster, shrimps, banana, >cocoa, chocolate, marzipan, asparagus, tomato, soy bean meal, wheat bran, >mustard, wine, refined sugar, sod. sulph, sorbic acid (E200), chilli, >currypwder, epper, thyme, and juniper. Also E102-Tartarzine, >E122-Carmousine and E131 Patent blue. Anyone see anyting significant here? >How accurate is this test? It also showed her to be deficient in sodium, >calcium, magnesium, copper, manganese, phosporus, bismuth, b3, pantothenic >acid, b12, folic and C. > > > > > 5/26/2002, you wrote: > >, > > eats " veggie cheese " . Here I find it in the produce section at the > >local supermarket. Not only do they have veggie cheese, they have veggie > >yogurt, milk, hot dogs (that taste like .........) > >My ex-husband is district manager of a pizza franchise. Since he took her > >with him 2 times a week, she got to eat a LOT of pizza. About 4 months ago I > >instructed him that she is on a milk free diet and he discontinued feeding > >her that crap. Since, her stomach aches (which were a continuous issue with > >her) have dissapeared and she no longer looks so bloated. > >i had approached my ex to ask what type of filler they use in the cheese and > >he, of course, says none. But I know that they use something since it would > >not be cost effective if they did not. However, who knows it may just be the > >cheese itself. > >Also keep her away from all proccessed foods, they seem to aggravate the GI > >tract as well. > >Tracey > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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