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----- Original Message -----

From: " Kathi " <pureheart@...>

Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2002 4:56 PM

Subject: more children affected!

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: sey

> Fuchssey@...

> Cc: saxony01@...

> Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2002 4:26 PM

> Subject: Fw: more children affected!

>

> Rogene, pass my words on to who you wish, (if you may have time) as I do

> not have the time right now to e-mail this to everyone.

>

> Below Leonard/the FDA is speaking with classic 'words of art' to

> cover the harm done with breast implants & children. So, the so-called

> professionals who are more

> medically educated speak with clear twisted words to cover themselves

> too....this is more sick than I orginally thought!

>

> This is really, REALLY sick medicine spoken below!

>

> If there are NOT good studies out BY NOW about breast implants for OVER

> 30 plus years about children/offspring who took hits from the catalysts,

> from D4/ from the

> chemical adjuvancy of ALL breast implant lot #'s it is clear that they

> devices were never FULLY INVESTIGATED in the first place to show that

> the devices are safe , with

> acceptable risks, without harm with one's genetics & BREAST IMPLANTS ARE

> HARMFUL as they are toxic, genetically offending to one's genetics, via

> the placental barrier

> through fetal cells...these are foolish/obtuse words written below by

> the FDA....and the FDA is a huge part of the problem with breast

> implants that are clearly

> harmful/toxic/genetically offending and NOT needed for anyone, EXCEPT

> needed for the one with a mental flaw/mental defect...this includes the

> patient and her plastic

> surgeon....as the plastic surgeon clearly needs to heal his/her mind

> *before* they can even think to heal the one who feels they need a

> breast implant for whatever reason......the

> problem is mental...sickness of the flawed mind.

>

>

>

> ......which NOT one soul/human body really NEEDS a breast implant--it is

> NOT a needed device....it is just a money maker all around, nothing

> *more*....except *more* to the

> human immune response as breast implants are an exerter/enhancer of the

> immune response, and are NOT/were never crafted/ not tailored to one's

> genetics to avoid the

> adverse reaction of the exerting process, VIA THE PLACENTAL BARRIER

> through fetal cells...with the offspring...breastfeeding extra hits....

>

> Medicine will never get it right with breast implants as medicine is

> clearly limited in what they do know/limited in their understanding of

> the human body/genetics< ...but the

> human body clearly understands what is triggering genetics/the human

> body/ triggering the genetic fault which is the genetically offending

> exposure like breast implants for

> starters which is the cause ...and the cause is the genetically

> offending trigger like breast implant chemical adjuvancy of the lot #'s

> for starters...which passes over into the fetal

> cells damning the offspring --- the offspring/children, end result -

> mutations of one's genetic fault triggered by the genetically offending

> trigger/time factor of exposure....but

> those educated in medicine see what it care to see....they look the

> other way to avoid the truth.

>

>

> Those in medicine learn from their medical mistakes by bushwhacking the

> innocent one's who are to place their trust in medicine....learning from

> medical mistakes has been done

> for years! AND YEARS in medicine, science and research!!!! It is their

> way of life.....to learn from harm done medically from the innocent ones

> like mother's and their children.

>

> This needs to stop as this is a very low standard to learn about

> evolving disease with genetically offending medicines, vaccines,

> dentisty and medical devices like breast implants

> for starters which are toxic. I have learned alot from opting with

> breast implants as a teenage plastic surgery patient...I could be a

> poster child for breast implants as our

> daughters, especially our who has scleroderma & more that was

> exerted from my 3M/McGhan (teenage) breast implants as our genetic fault

> could not take the 'hits' from

> the chemical adjuvancy of my very toxic breast implants. Pulled our

> trigger IN OUR YOUTH.

>

> Anyway, studies done now, 2003 and in the future only come clearly

> 'after the fact' of the massive damage done to fetal cells/the offspring

> with D4/ the catalysts/the chemical

> adjuvancy of ALL breast implant LOT #'s.

>

> Studies are only being done to get around the FDA moratorium...and

> medicine is very wishy washy and I really do not think they REALLY know

> what they are doing as they

> really do not fully understand genetics/the genetic faults of the human

> immune response as they trigger diseases with breast implant exposure/in

> the offspring as well.... good

> studies on breast implants and the offspring have been shot down by many

> which is a shame and self-serving my those in medicine, science and

> research...then 'words of art' like

> below pops up from the FDA....what a joke!

>

> No, not one soul needs to agree with me, but those in medicine have a

> track record in how they wish to make studies with breast implants

> fall....and they forget the offspring

> who take 'hits' via the placental barrier, with breast feeding which is

> simply extra hits....if they do studies now on offspring/breast feeding,

> studies will simply show breast

> implants to be wonderful, which is self-serving, twisted " medical words

> of art " .....nothing new here!

>

> The great medical snafu is a breast implant...which this type of

> so-called device is only worthy in a dysfuctional, self-serving society!

>

> Besides, the tracking of ALL breast implant lot #'s and offspring

> included over the past 30 years plus has been SHAMEFUL....tracking with

> breast implant exposure WAS

> NOT/ is not done & they all fail to uphold medicine, science and research

> to that highest of high standard of First, do no harm! No documentation

> simply means no

> evidence....but I know better as we all who have been exposed to breast

> implants/children included are the EVIDENCE IN HUMAN FORM.

>

> Not one soul needs to agree, but I personally feel this way seeing I

> have walked the walk as a teenage breast implant patient...My words are

> created from what I have

> personally experienced with breast implants from 1976-Dec.29, 2002.

>

> Maybe the 'axis of evil' is sitting in our own backyard...with medicine,

> science, research as they trigger the innocent with genetically

> offending triggers-like breast implants via the

> placental barrier/with breastfeeding too...the FDA, breast implant

> companies, some researchers, plastic surgeons who care NOT either about

> the truth.....so who with high

> standards is really going to step up to the plate for the breast implant

> offspring?

>

> The FDA? I do not think so by reading the 'words of art' written below.

>

> TAke care, Fuchs-sey/Macon, Missouri

>

>

>

>

>

> >From: " Rogene "

> >Reply- " Rogene "

> > " sey "

> >Subject: Fw: more children affected!

> >Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 00:31:12 -0600

> >

> >Message

> >----- Original Message -----

> >From: Leonard, M.

> >'Rogene' ; Leonard, M. ; Zuckerman ;

> suzanne@...

> >Cc: catstar11@... ; CDRH Small Manu. Assistance

> >Sent: Friday, December 27, 2002 12:48 PM

> >Subject: RE: more children affected!

> >

> >

> >This is in response to your email to the Food and Drug Administration

> (FDA), regarding breast implants and affected children.

> >

> >According to the Office of Surveillance and Biometrics (OSB), and the

> Office of Device Evaluation (ODE), the office responsible for conducting

> scientific reviews of medical

> devices, FDA does care about children but there simply aren't any good

> studies that indicate that this is a problem. It makes it difficult for

> us to take action if we can't even

> identify the problem.

> >

> >I hope the information I've provided is helpful.

> >

> > M. Leonard

> >Public Health Advisor

> >Consumer Staff (HFZ-210)

> >Division of Small Manufacturers, International and Consumer Assistance

> (DSMICA)

> >Office of Health and Industry Programs

> >Center for Devices and Radiological Health, FDA

> >Phone: 1-800-638-2041 ext. 141

> >Fax: 1-301-443-9535

> >THANK YOU!

> >

> >Your 100% satisfaction is our #1 goal and your feedback is important to

> us.

> >

> >If for any reason you are not completely satisfied or have a comment to

> make, please contact us toll-free at:

> >

> >1-800-638-2041, ext. 136 or email us at:

> >

> >dsmica@...

> >

> >Division of Small Manufacturers, International and Consumer Assistance

> >

> >Center for Devices and Radiological Health

> >

> >Food and Drug Administration

> >

> >Department of Health and Human Services

> >

> >

> >

> > -----Original Message-----

> > From: Rogene [mailto:saxony01@...]

> > Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 1:49 PM

> > Leonard, M.; Zuckerman; suzanne@...

> > Cc: catstar11@...; CDRH Small Manu. Assistance

> > Subject: RE: more children affected!

> >

> >

> > After all these years, why aren't there good studies?

> >

> > Don't the children matter?

> > Does the fact that they are too young to speak up, or fight for

> themselves, mean they aren't important enough for studies to be done?

> >

> > Rogene Schorer

> > -----Original Message-----

> > From: Leonard, M. [mailto:NML@...]

> > Sent: 17 December, 2002 10:24 AM

> > 'Rogene'; Leonard, M.; Zuckerman;

> suzanne@...

> > Cc: catstar11@...; CDRH Small Manu. Assistance

> > Subject: RE: more children affected!

> >

> >

> > This is in response to your email to the Food and Drug Administration

> (FDA), regarding children being affected from mothers with breast

> implants. I am sorry for their illness.

> >

> >

> >

> > According to the Office of Surveillance and Biometrics (OSB), there

> are no good studies in this area. Please submit this information to

> MedWatch at the following website:

> >

> >

> >

> > http://www.fda.gov/medwatch/index.html

> >

> >

> >

> > I hope the information I've provided is helpful.

> >

> >

> >

> > M. Leonard

> >

> > Public Health Advisor

> >

> > Consumer Staff, HFZ-210

> >

> > Division of Small Manufacturers, International, and Consumer

> Assistance

> >

> > Office of Health and Industry Programs

> >

> > Center for Devices and Radiological Health

> >

> > Phone: (800)638-2041 extension 141

> >

> > Fax: (301)443-9535

> >

> >

> >

> > -----Original Message-----

> > From: Rogene [mailto:saxony01@...]

> > Sent: Saturday, December 14, 2002 8:47 PM

> > Leonard; Zuckerman; suzanne@...

> > Cc: catstar11@...

> > Subject: more children affected!

> >

> >

> >

> > How many more children will be sacrificed before the public is told

> the truth?

> >

> >

> >

> > One moment I can never forget is the first support meeting I attended

> when a group of young mothers discovered, for the first time, that the

> illnesses their children had were

> shared by the children of other implantees.

> >

> >

> >

> > The shock, horror, shame and guilt I witnessed was overwhelming!

> >

> >

> >

> > How would you feel if this was YOUR children?

> >

> >

> >

> > That's why I'm still here pleading for something to be done!

> >

> >

> >

> > Unfortunately, there is more money supporting the implant industry

> than the children!

> >

> >

> >

> > Rogene Schorer

> >

> > ---------------------------------------------------

> >

> > I have been reading the web site, there is so much. Is there anything

> > about children? I nursed mine, and they have had health problems. Is

> > there ny way to talk with other women? I have given up on Dr.s and I

> > haven't had anyone to talk to lately. I had implants for 14 years and

> > had them removd. My health was improved, but I still have problems and

>

> > my attorney won't even return my phone calls! I feel abused and

> ignored

> > and I don't know what to do anymore. I tried to forget about it, but

> > that doesn't work and I'm afraid my attorney isn't going to get any

> > settlement for me. I don't know where to start or what to do. It seems

>

> > impossilble to fight or be heard.

> > catstar11@... (cathy mcpherson

> >

>

>

>

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