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Hi Ladies,I am following this thread, and it borders on solicitation, I think. I will post questions and articles, but asking someone to buy from them is solicitation, and I may add, I think praying on the weak. Maybe some disagree. Let me know your thoughts. If you want to know about alternative meds I will send them out as I have done in the past, because some do use alternative meds, but I get a strange feeling on this one.Kathy NyeTrudy wrote:> I am glad that with this list of info , I was able to help you and> many more ladies.That is what we are here for to help each other in> any way that we can.I will ask you also a favor that is to give me the> address and phone number if you have of Dr Hulda I like to keep> that info in my file if she is good and I can refer her later to> someone, that is good.Also I had not heard of the Margerite Barnett's> vitamins, and would appreciatelearning from her list also the fact> that you tell me they are good.All info would be appreciated thank> you and I will send you the other half of the list of vitamin soon .> Take good care Trudy trudyp@...Subj: Re: Hi Suz Hi Trudy Kathy and Kathi pls read Date: 12/3/2002 1:01:49 AM Eastern Standard Time From: hecate1@... trudyp@..., Kathynye@..., pureheart@... This letter is for Trudy but I want you Kathy and our darling Kathi toread it also.The -e- address for her company is <info@...> You get a contactperson thereafter you order her stuff. The contact person is the closest one inyour area. This person is well versed in her methods. Cause she is"experimenting " ha ha, and a doctor, you can get some stuff fromher that you cannot get over the counter. Also she is a demon about thepurity of her products. Read her book The Cure for all Cancers. Or herbook The Cure for HIV and ADDS, by Dr. Hulda R. .Her cure methods are very complicated. Involving liver cleanses whereyou have to swallow a half cup of olive oil. I could not do this forthe longest time but lately I was so desperate I did it using somegrapefruit juice with the olive oil and low a behold I was able to getit down and it was not too hard. If that had not worked a nurse friendwould have intubated me and poured it down my gullet. Sounds hard butdesperate people will do anything for some relief. My liver hasimproved by one point and I only have done the cure one time. Thesecures are free on her site. They work. Yet they are complicated,involving brewing up herbs from scratch. It depends how sick you are,if you are very ill this is impossible until you get a little better.If you are into alternatives you know about Royal Rife and hisbanned ( by the FDA) methods of zapping with electrical impulses theflukes and other parasites in the body. Dr Rife invented a method tocure almost everything. The FDA tried to buy the paten on his machine.He refused, wanting everyone to have this method, not just doctors.About two weeks later his lab mysteriously burned down and some of thedoctors who worked with him mysteriously died. The FDA ordered all hismachines destroyed after they could not get the paten. This was manyyears ago. Some people have re-created his work. These machines areavailable to the general public, as experimental devises. They rangein price from $5k to $500.00. Dr puts out one that is not asextensive as some others. Not as much range. Many people are usingthese products and getting better.I have two machines from other companies and I am experimenting withthem. They do take away pain of a mild sort. I do not know how theywould do with sever pain but others who have used them for a long timeswear by them. ( I cannot wait for severe pain and always pop a painpill.) They sell for about $1999.00. Again I am experimenting. Ittakes about three months for them to work and I have only had mine forone month.One of the companies told me that if I want to sell them they would sellthem to me for 15K and the next for 12k so if you want one better letme get it for you and I will charge you $100 more than it costs me andshipping. Yet I cannot say for sure if they work. It takes a long longtime to do the cures. Of course you have to take supplements and DRINKPURE WATER. About 8 glasses a day. I gag down 6. You also cannot putany toxins into the old bod. No make up, no heavy dyed clothing, nohand cream, no cleaning products, no soap unless it is very very pure.NO PROCESSED FOOD NO FILLINGS IN THE TEETH. No medicines that willeventually destroy you. The machines do not take away chemicaltoxicity. That is in us to stay. What they do do is to cure thesecondary infections and diseases that arise as a result of the chemicaltoxicity. Or I should say that is what they say they will do.For instance I have a heart condition that every one in my family gets.Yet I got it a good 20 years before they did. The silicone weakens theimmune system to the point that your individual window of vulnerabilityin activated. Mine was heart and diabetes. Also joint problems andmuscle pains. I got epsteine barr. I felt as though I was walkingthrough water I was so tired. It may be too late for my heart. It isseverely damaged. The diabetes has cleared up considerably sense usingthe machines. ( I use both) This is no proof though. What I wouldconsider proof is if the heart does not get any worse and I cannot tellyou yet if this is happening cause I have not had enough time with themachines. Also have kidney, gall bladder and liver problems. Thesethings creep up on one as we age with the silicone in out bodies. Nosurgery ( I have had 5 breast surgeries ) can get out the siliconeentirely. Another thing I should tell you. Although this is notproof. I have not walked for more than 15 minute for the last year,year and a half. Yesterday I walked for over 2 hours without pain. Allthis does not add up to enough proof. Not yet. But the circumstancesare pointing in the direction of the machines having some efficacy.I may die before I am able to do anything about the heart. I could haveanother massive heart attack anytime. I have accepted this and amprepared spiritually and psychologically for it. There is no where forme to go except up. I cannot get much worse except for death. As I saythe diabetes is under control WITHOUT DRUGS. My blood sugar level wasaround 235 and this was without food. It is now around 85,.consistently, with food. I also take many food supplements. Amongthese is Alpha Lipoic Acid. So the A L Acid may be the reason the bloodsugar is now low. I just do not know.I am sorry that Dr. Margaret Barnett as yet has no alternativeremedies. She is a plastic surgeon. Dr. Feng in Cleveland is verygood also. They both are silicone women specialists. They both areplastic surgeons.We must use strong drugs when necessary and explore all other methods ofhealing also.Trudy dear, I am very ill and very tired from writing this much so mustrest.I will guide you as best as I can but do not tell the women yet aboutthe machines. I would hate for them to spend a lot of money and havethem not work.Where do you live?Very truly yours in health.Suz============================================================Kathynye@... wrote:> Hello Ladies,>> Dear Suz,> If it works for you, great. But I am not for alternative medicines.I> go a medical doctor and take Rx. drugs.>> It is not for me to judge, but since you wrote me I will add my> thoughts. Some alternate medicines are thought up by honest helpful> people who truly want to help.> Others are charletons (one making usually showy pretenses to knowledge> or ability ).>> Selling machines, saying they cure, to innocent people who need help> is heartless.> Again, if it works for you, fine. I want no part of it.>> "Dr Rife invented a method to cure almost everything." What medical> degree does he have? If he claims he has a cure for everything, he is> delusional and egotistical.>> Kathy NyeSubj: Re: My answer Hi Suz Hi Trudy Kathy and Kathi pls read Date: 12/3/2002 8:27:58 PM Eastern Standard Time From: hecate1@... Dear KathyYou are absolutely right. Some alternatives are no good and completelybogus. Others however are very efficacious. The trick is to know thedifference. Royal Rife is dead. He developed this method back in the 30's40's and 50's. If you read up on him you will become convinced that hewas on the level 100%. Whether or not his copiers are on the level isanother question. As I said I am EXPERIMENTING with some of the copiesof his work.Personally I go to Dr. Vasey also. But modern medicine has let medown. There are very few safe drugs out there. If you will take thetime to check you will see that most are made with thermasil (spelling)a mercury compound. Mercury is a poison. Mercury is a very toxicpoison. They put it in as a preservative. The other ingredients ofmost modern medications reads like a list of ingredients in the breastimplants. http://www.fda.gov/cder/fdama/mercury300.htmGo here to the Center for Drug Evaluation and Research to find out.You will notice that I asked Trudy NOT TO MENTION THE MACHINES TO THEOTHER WOMEN UNTIL AND IF THEY PROVE EFFECTIVE.I would like for you to post the message I wrote asking if anyone knowsabout the work of Royal Rife. This can do no harm.I am dying very rapidly thanks to breast implants. The quality of mylife has deteriorated to the point of having to rest almost all thetime. I am in great pain sometimes and moderate to mild pain most ofthe time. I am experimenting with many things now.Surely you do not think, after all we have been through, that ourgovernment, the manufactures and most of our doctors are out there forour benefit, for the good of humanity? They are in it for control powerand money. That is a pure and simple fact. So are the alternatives.But most of these do not have the noxious side effects of drugs. Thebody handles vitamins and minerals as food. The other alternativemethods such as oxygen therapies and electricimpulses can be very effective also.Suz