Re: debating surgery-read your story-very confused-help!!!

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Hi ,

I am so glad to see you got connected on our saline support site and have gotten some good responses there. I would say the same thing to you as what all the other girls have written, and that is that implants are just not worth the risk. I know how tempting it is to see other women get implants and walk around with nice sized breasts and showing them off in pretty clothes, but it is all very deceptive about the safety of these things, and when you do become ill so many doctors are totally clueless about what is really happening. I think that many women are walking around with illnesses or symptoms that are indirectly caused by their implants, and are not willing to make a connection, or are listening to the clueless doctors that it is "not the implants". There is alot of denial out there, and I see it all the time here in Vegas. But as you can see from all the women on our site, there are too many similarities in our symptoms, and most of us have improved in our health greatly after getting them out, for it to be a coincidence. I don't think that is a coincidence at all. I think that implants are a devastating blow to the immune system that may or may not take years to show up, and when it does, there are no clear answers as to what is going on, or how to treat it. IF you get ill, which at this point it is totally unpredictable if you will or not or how long it will take, you will enter into the most crazy medical merry go round you could ever be on, the merry go round from hell, and it can take years to undo the damage to your body.

Many women are living a very sad life with this immune system damage, thinking it is just aging, or that they were destined to get ill anyway with whatever disease they have, but when we see things like lupus symptoms resolving, and blood work going back to normal when it is supposedly impossible to cure these autoimmune illnesses, and other signs that women can have their life back, get their energy back, have joy again.... it is really sad to see some women hanging onto their breast implants anyway, listening to their doctors that they don't need to get them out. That is the only thing that can help, as far as my own opinion goes, so doctors are giving harmful advice as far as I can tell if they tell a woman that implants are totally safe adn they don't need to remove them. Read the insert that comes with the implants, and you will see all this stuff that we are talking about, and yet if these symptoms ever happen to a woman, she is told it is not the implants. Does that seem as odd to you as it does to me?

Getting the implants out will help the body get back to a stronger and healthier state, I have no doubt in my mind about that, at the very least it will help the body by not having to attack a foreign object anymore. The only way to clean a polluted river is to at least stop putting in the pollutants....and taking out what pollutants are in there. It is the same way with our body. Eventually, if you do these two things, the body will be able to clear itself and become healthy again.

The bottom line is that IF you do decide to get implants, you have to be prepared to deal with the worst case scenarios--the illness, the doctor appts, the bills, the explant surgery, the scars, the risk of loss of sensation in the breasts, the going back to the way you looked before, the loss of quality time with your family, and the depression that is sure to follow all of this....sorry, I don't mean to sound melodramatic....I am telling you the truth, because it all happened to me. It is totally NOT worth having a few months with nicer looking breasts. I should have taken that money instead and went on a nice long cruise to the South Pacific.

The bottom line if you don't get sick, at least don't get sick in the first 10 years or so, is that you will still have to deal with the implants at some future time, either because of rupture, leakage, or age of the implant, you will still have to have future surgeries, will still have to live with the ball and chain hanging over your head that you just never know when your immune system is tired of having them around or if there is fungus growing inside the implants or bacterial infections taking hold....can you live with that? If someone has put all this information in front of me when I was contemplating getting breast implants, in black and white instead of all the pretty painted pictures I got, I am quite sure I would have walked away thinking, "what a crazy idea!"

It truly is insane.

, I wish you the best in life, wisdom in your decision, and the love of your family to guide you through your choices.

Hugs,

Patty

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From: Ltrn449@...

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Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 6:26 PM

Subject: debating surgery-read your story-very confused-help!!!

Hi, Patty. I am scheduled for surgery on June 19th, bur your testimony is haunting me. I am healthy, 33, the mother of three children. Although I want to change my 34AA, I just dont know if its worth the risk. Also, I am an RN , but it seems so many women are getting implants and everyone seems to think (including my ob/gyn and family doctor) that the implants are safe now. I hope to hear from you soon, as I am so confused right now I really dont know what to do. Thanks for anything you can share with me.Sincerely, TiedekenNew Jersey

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God if only there had been a support group telling me this then, I know I would cancelled out of it, and washed my hands.I was always scared of getting sick, and such a health nut. I was never realy unhapppy with my breasts to begin with. I realy only did it to"better" myself. How sad. nna

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>Subject: Re: debating surgery-read your story-very confused-help!!! >Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 15:42:27 -0700 > >Hi , >I am so glad to see you got connected on our saline support site and have gotten some good responses there. I would say the same thing to you as what all the other girls have written, and that is that implants are just not worth the risk. I know how tempting it is to see other women get implants and walk around with nice sized breasts and showing them off in pretty clothes, but it is all very deceptive about the safety of these things, and when you do become ill so many doctors are totally clueless about what is really happening. I think that many women are walking around with illnesses or symptoms that are indirectly caused by their implants, and are not willing to make a connection, or are listening to the clueless doctors that it is "not the implants". There is alot of denial out there, and I see it all the time here in Vegas. But as you can see from all the women on our site, there are too many similarities in our symptoms, and most of us have improved in our health greatly after getting them out, for it to be a coincidence. I don't think that is a coincidence at all. I think that implants are a devastating blow to the immune system that may or may not take years to show up, and when it does, there are no clear answers as to what is going on, or how to treat it. IF you get ill, which at this point it is totally unpredictable if you will or not or how long it will take, you will enter into the most crazy medical merry go round you could ever be on, the merry go round from hell, and it can take years to undo the damage to your body. > >Many women are living a very sad life with this immune system damage, thinking it is just aging, or that they were destined to get ill anyway with whatever disease they have, but when we see things like lupus symptoms resolving, and blood work going back to normal when it is supposedly impossible to cure these autoimmune illnesses, and other signs that women can have their life back, get their energy back, have joy again.... it is really sad to see some women hanging onto their breast implants anyway, listening to their doctors that they don't need to get them out. That is the only thing that can help, as far as my own opinion goes, so doctors are giving harmful advice as far as I can tell if they tell a woman that implants are totally safe adn they don't need to remove them. Read the insert that comes with the implants, and you will see all this stuff that we are talking about, and yet if these symptoms ever happen to a woman, she is told it is not the implants. Does that seem as odd to you as it does to me? > >Getting the implants out will help the body get back to a stronger and healthier state, I have no doubt in my mind about that, at the very least it will help the body by not having to attack a foreign object anymore. The only way to clean a polluted river is to at least stop putting in the pollutants....and taking out what pollutants are in there. It is the same way with our body. Eventually, if you do these two things, the body will be able to clear itself and become healthy again. > >The bottom line is that IF you do decide to get implants, you have to be prepared to deal with the worst case scenarios--the illness, the doctor appts, the bills, the explant surgery, the scars, the risk of loss of sensation in the breasts, the going back to the way you looked before, the loss of quality time with your family, and the depression that is sure to follow all of this....sorry, I don't mean to sound melodramatic....I am telling you the truth, because it all happened to me. It is totally NOT worth having a few months with nicer looking breasts. I should have taken that money instead and went on a nice long cruise to the South Pacific. > >The bottom line if you don't get sick, at least don't get sick in the first 10 years or so, is that you will still have to deal with the implants at some future time, either because of rupture, leakage, or age of the implant, you will still have to have future surgeries, will still have to live with the ball and chain hanging over your head that you just never know when your immune system is tired of having them around or if there is fungus growing inside the implants or bacterial infections taking hold....can you live with that? If someone has put all this information in front of me when I was contemplating getting breast implants, in black and white instead of all the pretty painted pictures I got, I am quite sure I would have walked away thinking, "what a crazy idea!" > >It truly is insane. > >, I wish you the best in life, wisdom in your decision, and the love of your family to guide you through your choices. >Hugs, >Patty > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Ltrn449@... > fdp@... > Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 6:26 PM > Subject: debating surgery-read your story-very confused-help!!! > > > Hi, Patty. I am scheduled for surgery on June 19th, bur your testimony is haunting me. I am healthy, 33, the mother of three children. Although I want to change my 34AA, I just dont know if its worth the risk. Also, I am an RN , but it seems so many women are getting implants and everyone seems to think (including my ob/gyn and family doctor) that the implants are safe now. I hope to hear from you soon, as I am so confused right now I really dont know what to do. Thanks for anything you can share with me. > Sincerely, > Tiedeken > New Jersey MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE*

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na,

Thanks so much for your response. How are you doing now? Do you still have implants?