arthritis

[Guest guest]

Hi Barbara,

Yes, I had arthritis in my right hip and had it replaced last year.

I have bone spurs (probably the start of arthritis) in my left hip

(in addition to a congenital deformity) and will most likely need to

have that one replaced also, eventually.

I've heard hip replacements are not as bad as spine surgery. My hip

replacement was no picnic, but I survived it (and I'm a wimp), and

I've talked to many, many other people (on a wonderful internet

support group similar to the Feisty group) who have done way better

than me with theirs.

Arthritis is a pain (literally), and I'm sorry you have it.

Medicines (NSAIDS) helped me tolerate mine for quite a few years.

When the meds stop helping and your quality of life starts suffering

because of it, hip replacement can really help. To me, hip

replacement was a lot less scary than my future flatback revision

surgery is. Don't hesitate to email me if I can provide any more

information.

loriann

[Guest guest]

Loriann,

Thanks for the info on hip replacement. I certainly hope I'm

not at that point yet. Too many things going on in my life now

anyway, but who knows what will happen in the future. Seems like the

technology on hip replacement is getting better all the time so the

longer I can wait the better. I read where there they are using a

ceramic hip replacement that is supposed to be better.

Anyway, thank for the information.

Barbara

> Hi Barbara,

>

> Yes, I had arthritis in my right hip and had it replaced last

year.

> I have bone spurs (probably the start of arthritis) in my left hip

> (in addition to a congenital deformity) and will most likely need

to

> have that one replaced also, eventually.

>

> I've heard hip replacements are not as bad as spine surgery. My

hip

> replacement was no picnic, but I survived it (and I'm a wimp), and

> I've talked to many, many other people (on a wonderful internet

> support group similar to the Feisty group) who have done way better

> than me with theirs.

>

> Arthritis is a pain (literally), and I'm sorry you have it.

> Medicines (NSAIDS) helped me tolerate mine for quite a few years.

> When the meds stop helping and your quality of life starts

suffering

> because of it, hip replacement can really help. To me, hip

> replacement was a lot less scary than my future flatback revision

> surgery is. Don't hesitate to email me if I can provide any more

> information.

>

> loriann

[Guest guest]

Ruth,

I use a glucosamine-chondroitin chew. It's made by Spring Valley and I found

it at wal-mart. It's orange flavored, about the size and consistancy of a

tootsie roll, goes down just fine. And my knee appreciates it!

Lj

410/360/160 AGB 08/09/04 Dr. Ronnie OKC

My Blog: _http://www.livejournal.com/users/l_stephens/_

(http://www.livejournal.com/users/l_stephens/)

[Guest guest]

Ruth, you can buy pill cutters at the pharmacy.

Sylvia

----- Original Message -----

From: Ruth Snider

Ruth Snider

Does anyone know of a Glucosamine-Chondrotin Pill that comes in anything other

than horse pill size. All my friends rave about this pill's ability to ease

their arthritis. Ruth

[Guest guest]

I use a liquid Glucosamine that I researched and then bought off of

Ebay. Just do a /google search on liquid Glucosamine. Some also

have Chondroitin. It tastes like sour apple and isn't too bad.

-44 YEAH!!!

Dr. Bonanni

3/9/04

5 fills - total, 3.5cc's

[Guest guest]

> Does anyone know of a Glucosamine-Chondrotin Pill that comes in

anything other than horse pill size. All my friends rave about this

pill's ability to ease their arthritis. Ruth

>

Hi Ruth,

I use a liquid called Joint Movement Glucosamine & Chrondroitin by

Symtec. It has 2000mg glucosamine,1200mg of chrondoitin & 50mg

collagen in one dose. I buy it at Costco for around $19.00 for a 33

day supply. Symtec also has a liquid multivitamin at Costco but I

really didn't like the taste.

Doris 8/4/04

Drs. Ortiz/ez

[Guest guest]

Thanks Doris, I will go shopping and look for something similar. We do not have

a Costco, but have a Sam's. They would probably have something of that kind.

Ruth

[Guest guest]

There didn't seem to be many messages in the archives (at least the way I

accessed them!) on arthritis, though I saw the recent ones mentioning it as a

result of something else.

What I am after is personal experience of people with joint pain when they

started coconut oil, or info from people who know what others experienced.

I don't say my hip and sometimes knee pains are definitely arthritis, but

there's something very painful going on there. I have just come out of about a

month of herxing, having ignorantly not started off with a small quantity and

worked my way up. Since starting VCNO, my hip pains have shot up the scale of

discomfort, and I am hoping that this is because something good is happening.

But it might be coincidence, too, I suppose.

Supposing my hip pains are arthritis, what could I typically expect from the

joints once having started coconut oil?

Thanks for any input

Rowena

Walking very carefully in Australia and making lots of strange noises as I do

[Guest guest]

That is interesting. I have pain in hipjoint and knee on my right side. It

hadn't been bothering me for quite awhile, was very painful right after

starting the VCO. It has calmed down now though, been on VCO for a month

now. 3 T per day.

Fern

Re: Arthritis

There didn't seem to be many messages in the archives (at least the way I

accessed them!) on arthritis, though I saw the recent ones mentioning it as

a result of something else.

What I am after is personal experience of people with joint pain when they

started coconut oil, or info from people who know what others experienced.

I don't say my hip and sometimes knee pains are definitely arthritis, but

there's something very painful going on there. I have just come out of

about a month of herxing, having ignorantly not started off with a small

quantity and worked my way up. Since starting VCNO, my hip pains have shot

up the scale of discomfort, and I am hoping that this is because something

good is happening. But it might be coincidence, too, I suppose.

Supposing my hip pains are arthritis, what could I typically expect from

the joints once having started coconut oil?

Thanks for any input

Rowena

Walking very carefully in Australia and making lots of strange noises as I

do

[Guest guest]

Rowena,

Check out a book called The False Fat Diet by Dr. Elsen Haas. It is about food

sensitivities. They can definitely cause arthritis type pain. I had massive

joint pain from wheat. Within days of stopping it most of my pain was gone. I

knew a girl who cleared up her RA completely by eliminating certain foods (white

sugar, flour, red meat to name a few) and drinking pure water. I also had a

problem with artificial sweetners and joint pain. Check out

www.drlamarsproducts.com for Collagen Peptides. They really help with arthritis

pain.

Rowena <newses@...> wrote:

There didn't seem to be many messages in the archives (at least the way I

accessed them!) on arthritis, though I saw the recent ones mentioning it as a

result of something else.

What I am after is personal experience of people with joint pain when they

started coconut oil, or info from people who know what others experienced.

I don't say my hip and sometimes knee pains are definitely arthritis, but

there's something very painful going on there. I have just come out of about a

month of herxing, having ignorantly not started off with a small quantity and

worked my way up. Since starting VCNO, my hip pains have shot up the scale of

discomfort, and I am hoping that this is because something good is happening.

But it might be coincidence, too, I suppose.

Supposing my hip pains are arthritis, what could I typically expect from the

joints once having started coconut oil?

Thanks for any input

Rowena

Walking very carefully in Australia and making lots of strange noises as I do

[Guest guest]

Re: Arthritis

> There didn't seem to be many messages in the archives (at least the way I

> accessed them!) on arthritis, though I saw the recent ones mentioning it

> as a result of something else.

>

> What I am after is personal experience of people with joint pain when they

> started coconut oil, or info from people who know what others experienced.

>

> I don't say my hip and sometimes knee pains are definitely arthritis, but

> there's something very painful going on there. I have just come out of

> about a month of herxing, having ignorantly not started off with a small

> quantity and worked my way up. Since starting VCNO, my hip pains have

> shot up the scale of discomfort, and I am hoping that this is because

> something good is happening. But it might be coincidence, too, I suppose.

>

> Supposing my hip pains are arthritis, what could I typically expect from

> the joints once having started coconut oil?

>

> Thanks for any input

>

> Rowena

For joint pains and arthritis, I use MSM. See information here:

http://www.bulkmsm.com/research/msm/msm3.htm

Alobar

[Guest guest]

Rowena,

For several years I had arthritis. I was not young, but it was during the

very end of my child bearing years. (ages 36-41). I had tried colon

cleansing and had tried identifying possible allergens. I also resorted to

glucosamine, chondrotin and MSM. Some days were better than others, but at

best I can say I was able to take the edge off the pain and curb it to an

" ache " that was stronger on some days than others, but always with me.

5 years ago we completely switched out/got rid of all the oils we had been

using and used completely virgin coconut oil. We quit using flax seed oil,

olive oil, fish oil, soybean oil, every oil. In addition, we tried to

achieve the magical amount of 3-4 tablespoons a day but we did not always

get that much into our diet. Gradually, over a 3 month period of time the

pain lessened until one day I woke up and realized the pain was gone. As I

looked back over the proceeding months I realized it had been gradual, and I

was so surprised.

Previously, I would get up out of a chair like an 80 year old lady and walk

bent over for 8-10 steps. It was very difficult for me to sit on something

hard like the floor and very difficult to get up from the floor. Stairs

were taxing and painful. I use to use all sorts of oils which included

soybean oil. I also loved soy milk and used a lot of tofu because I thought

it was healthy. For several years prior to my arthritis I has a vegetarian.

I ate Ezekiel bread, lots of good produce (much of it organic) etc. I am

not sure that how much of my problems came from the things I as eating, how

much came from things in my diet that were not digesting well, and how much

came from the coconut oil and its anti-microbial, anti-viral and energy

giving properties. All I know is that I stopped soy products and all oils

other than coconut oil. That is really the only change I made. And my

arthritis (all in my hips) as well as muscle stiffness went away. It has

been 5 years and the arthritis never returned. If I eat food with soybean

oil too much, or eat too many prepared foods, the stiffness can come back.

I notice it right away and immediately " buckle up " .

At this point my person feelings on arthritis are that the body is

definitely acidic. There are pathogens and toxins accumulated in the body.

I believe soybean oil and canola oils are toxic, especially when heated. I

also believe you have to be careful with all the highly unsaturated oils, as

they can oxidize in your body. Oxidized fats are very toxic. And acidic

toxic body is a great environment for pathogens to take root in and make you

even more nutrient depleted, and toxic as you are now having to handle the

metabolic waste products produced by the pathogens as well as what is

generated by your own cells. The two key things I did were to stop a fair

amount of toxins that were coming into my body, in my ignorance. In

addition, with the help of the coconut oil I was able to kill of pathogens

and lower the amount of toxins in my body. Just by getting an " oil change "

as Dr. Bruce Fife says, I was able to do that.

If person has had arthritis for a long time, or if they are older, it might

not happen as fast. If they ate smaller amounts of coconut oil it would not

be as effective either. And of course if there are other sources of toxins

coming into the body or if a person ate a acidifying diet (high in meat.

potatoes and grains and low in fresh vegetables and fruits) then I would

expect slower progress. Even an acidifying or polluted drinking water

source or something like regular sessions in a chlorinated swimming pool

would probably effect how acidic the body is. None of these things applied

to me.

Annette

Wilderness Family Naturals

1-800-945-3801

http://www.wildernessfamilynaturals.com

Re: Arthritis

There didn't seem to be many messages in the archives (at least the way I

accessed them!) on arthritis, though I saw the recent ones mentioning it as

a result of something else.

What I am after is personal experience of people with joint pain when they

started coconut oil, or info from people who know what others experienced.

I don't say my hip and sometimes knee pains are definitely arthritis, but

there's something very painful going on there. I have just come out of

about a month of herxing, having ignorantly not started off with a small

quantity and worked my way up. Since starting VCNO, my hip pains have shot

up the scale of discomfort, and I am hoping that this is because something

good is happening. But it might be coincidence, too, I suppose.

Supposing my hip pains are arthritis, what could I typically expect from the

joints once having started coconut oil?

Thanks for any input

Rowena

Walking very carefully in Australia and making lots of strange noises as I

do

[Guest guest]

> Check out a book called The False Fat Diet by Dr. Elsen Haas. It is

> about food sensitivities.

Also, don't overlook the fact that toxin load created 24/7 by bad

bowel bacteria can aggravate arthritis, increase sensitivities, and

even cause allergic symptoms or trigger other autoimmune disorders

besides the arthritis.

The solution is to feed the good bacteria that which has been missing

from the modern diet, about 12 grams of inulin, and allow the

probiotic culture to recover and control the overpopulation of the

bad bacteria and their toxin load.

Duncan Crow

[Guest guest]

Thanks for that encouraging experience, Annette. I think I shall choose to

believe that the extra pain was due to the coconut oil doing something helpful.

I have stopped meat now; I had already switched to only coconut and olive oil;

diet-wise already pretty good with occasional rash behaviour. I may make

further modifications as I re-read people's input.

I do agree with all you said. Some 30 years ago I found the joint pains would

disappear if I gave up tea and switched to honey and cider vinegar, so I

definitely believe it is diet related. I think I put too much CV in eventually,

and got to the point where even the smell of it put me off. Now if I take it I

use a smaller quantity.

Alobar, I find the MSM hard to take, so include it in a topical preparation I

make, plus a very small quantity in a drink in the mornings. I comfort myself

with thoughts of the teaching of one Dr (?) that if you need it you can't

taste it or it tastes good, and if you can taste it, you have enough that day.

, I use filtered water, hardly ever any flour, certainly no white sugar,

nor even brown - xylitol, honey, or occasionally stevia.

I shall persevere with the coconut oil now and observe results before making too

many changes or adding much more, and see what happens.

Fern, I was glad (sorry!) to hear your joint pains had increased since starting

VCO - it encourages me to accept the pain as part of the improvement!

Regards

Rowena

Gradually, over a 3 month period of time the

pain lessened until one day I woke up and realized the pain was gone. As I

looked back over the proceeding months I realized it had been gradual, and I

was so surprised.

All I know is that I stopped soy products and all oils

other than coconut oil. That is really the only change I made. And my

arthritis (all in my hips) as well as muscle stiffness went away. It has

been 5 years and the arthritis never returned. If I eat food with soybean

oil too much, or eat too many prepared foods, the stiffness can come back.

I notice it right away and immediately " buckle up " .

[Guest guest]

Some arthritis is nutritional. Caffeine is a problem. I cured my

arthritis at age 45 by zero caffeine and cod liver oil. Do a search on

Dale . I had the classic shooting pains in my fingers. Thanks

for alternative medicene. Allopathic med. would not have cured it.

robert

[Guest guest]

Filtered water may or may not be pure, could still have lots of bad stuff in it.

Try using reverse osmosis water with some good liquid ion minerals added to it.

Then you know for sure what you are getting.

Rowena <newses@...> wrote:Thanks for that encouraging experience,

Annette. I think I shall choose to believe that the extra pain was due to the

coconut oil doing something helpful. I have stopped meat now; I had already

switched to only coconut and olive oil; diet-wise already pretty good with

occasional rash behaviour. I may make further modifications as I re-read

people's input.

I do agree with all you said. Some 30 years ago I found the joint pains would

disappear if I gave up tea and switched to honey and cider vinegar, so I

definitely believe it is diet related. I think I put too much CV in eventually,

and got to the point where even the smell of it put me off. Now if I take it I

use a smaller quantity.

Alobar, I find the MSM hard to take, so include it in a topical preparation I

make, plus a very small quantity in a drink in the mornings. I comfort myself

with thoughts of the teaching of one Dr (?) that if you need it you can't

taste it or it tastes good, and if you can taste it, you have enough that day.

, I use filtered water, hardly ever any flour, certainly no white sugar,

nor even brown - xylitol, honey, or occasionally stevia.

I shall persevere with the coconut oil now and observe results before making too

many changes or adding much more, and see what happens.

Fern, I was glad (sorry!) to hear your joint pains had increased since starting

VCO - it encourages me to accept the pain as part of the improvement!

Regards

Rowena

Gradually, over a 3 month period of time the

pain lessened until one day I woke up and realized the pain was gone. As I

looked back over the proceeding months I realized it had been gradual, and I

was so surprised.

All I know is that I stopped soy products and all oils

other than coconut oil. That is really the only change I made. And my

arthritis (all in my hips) as well as muscle stiffness went away. It has

been 5 years and the arthritis never returned. If I eat food with soybean

oil too much, or eat too many prepared foods, the stiffness can come back.

I notice it right away and immediately " buckle up " .

[Guest guest]

yes you should be careful in choosing water filters. The best filters

now are solid carbon blocks.

claudia diltz <oxyqueen1187@...> wrote:Filtered water may or may not be

pure, could still have lots of bad stuff in it. Try using reverse osmosis water

with some good liquid ion minerals added to it. Then you know for sure what you

are getting.

Rowena <newses@...> wrote:Thanks for that encouraging experience,

Annette. I think I shall choose to believe that the extra pain was due to the

coconut oil doing something helpful. I have stopped meat now; I had already

switched to only coconut and olive oil; diet-wise already pretty good with

occasional rash behaviour. I may make further modifications as I re-read

people's input.

I do agree with all you said. Some 30 years ago I found the joint pains would

disappear if I gave up tea and switched to honey and cider vinegar, so I

definitely believe it is diet related. I think I put too much CV in eventually,

and got to the point where even the smell of it put me off. Now if I take it I

use a smaller quantity.

Alobar, I find the MSM hard to take, so include it in a topical preparation I

make, plus a very small quantity in a drink in the mornings. I comfort myself

with thoughts of the teaching of one Dr (?) that if you need it you can't

taste it or it tastes good, and if you can taste it, you have enough that day.

, I use filtered water, hardly ever any flour, certainly no white sugar,

nor even brown - xylitol, honey, or occasionally stevia.

I shall persevere with the coconut oil now and observe results before making too

many changes or adding much more, and see what happens.

Fern, I was glad (sorry!) to hear your joint pains had increased since starting

VCO - it encourages me to accept the pain as part of the improvement!

Regards

Rowena

Gradually, over a 3 month period of time the

pain lessened until one day I woke up and realized the pain was gone. As I

looked back over the proceeding months I realized it had been gradual, and I

was so surprised.

All I know is that I stopped soy products and all oils

other than coconut oil. That is really the only change I made. And my

arthritis (all in my hips) as well as muscle stiffness went away. It has

been 5 years and the arthritis never returned. If I eat food with soybean

oil too much, or eat too many prepared foods, the stiffness can come back.

I notice it right away and immediately " buckle up " .

[Guest guest]

Just curious, how is your hip pain now?

Rowena <newses@...> wrote:

There didn't seem to be many messages in the archives (at least the way I

accessed them!) on arthritis, though I saw the recent ones mentioning it as a

result of something else.

What I am after is personal experience of people with joint pain when they

started coconut oil, or info from people who know what others experienced.

I don't say my hip and sometimes knee pains are definitely arthritis, but

there's something very painful going on there. I have just come out of about a

month of herxing, having ignorantly not started off with a small quantity and

worked my way up. Since starting VCNO, my hip pains have shot up the scale of

discomfort, and I am hoping that this is because something good is happening.

But it might be coincidence, too, I suppose.

Supposing my hip pains are arthritis, what could I typically expect from the

joints once having started coconut oil?

Thanks for any input

Rowena

Walking very carefully in Australia and making lots of strange noises as I do

[Guest guest]

said: Just curious, how is your hip pain now?

Not as bad, , thanks. But still very painful. My new VCNO has not

arrived yet, so I have been without since the bad reaction. Don't know if

that is anything to do with the decrease in discomfort. Wonder what will

happen when I start again.

I am planning to try dialytic water from Spain to see whether that smooths

the joints out. I am working on the theory that there must be some sharp

crystals of rubbish the body has had to dump there and wondering whether

the dialytic water will smooth them off. Trouble is, they don't seem to do

credit card orders, so I have to work out from the spanish exactly what I am

to do. Could do wonders for any gall stones, too. The joints all over are

painful. One theory is that it is the ultra tiny bugs causing inflammation

( http://www.aravak.dk/com/from_terminal.htm ). The VCNO should see those

off in time. Otherwise, I guess just the rubbish the body has had to store

because it couldn't excrete it for whatever reason. Maybe a mixture of both

and a number of other things! I guess urates, phosphates and calcium,

possibly all jumbled in together forming beautiful painful crystals! (Or

ugly jagged sand).

And Nina - you asked about diet. At the moment I am just trying to work out

workable dietary routines - what I can get locally and what I can manage to

do. I'm going with basically fruit breakfast, raw veg lunch, cooked evening

meal. Only occasional meat, planning to have fish several times a week.

Eggs when I can get free range. At the moment in town the vegetables

available have been carted all over the state before getting in the shops -

probably from A to B and back to A! I prefer to go to where I know they are

fresh, but that's forty five minutes away whichever town I decide to go to

(Donnybrook or Bunbury, for those who know Western Australia). Things may

improve next month when Woolworths opens up in town, but we'll see. Fish is

only frozen. (Or, in the store, defrosted frozen! " Defrosted for your

convenience " = " We can't keep it frozen in the display cabinets. " )

I'm not using dairy cream at the moment - naturopath warned me off it

because of the post nasal drip. I am spraying throat with colloidal silver

/ xylitol / MSM / sea salt mix (when I remember). Using Xlear Xylitol liquid

nose wash when I remember, though apparently the Gvt is banning imports of

that at the moment. I'll be glad of the coconut oil to take the place of

cream; there are drinks I like that are no fun without the cream.

I am in the meantime eating coconut to try to make up for my lack of coconut

oil. I love it so much more now I know how good it is for me! But as I

can't eat the whole thing in one day, I tend to worry about how long it

lasts in the refregerator - one piece had mold on it after a couple of days,

so I don't know whether that would have happened to any nut in that time, or

whether that particular nut was ready to go mouldy anyway. It had taken me

a week or two to build up the steam to crack it open! I used the water on

my eyes, and will do the same for the next two waiting for attention!

I see my homeopath in the city on Monday; hope to see what's going on in the

worms and germs department (he uses Interro dermal screening)

http://www.taracentre.com.au/ . If there is candida, I hope to use the

remedies to beat it rather than having to limit my fruit and veg too much,

given that I can only get a limited choice anyway. I might ask him whether

he would be interested in importing the dialytic water! I'll also ask him

to test the two kinds of coconut oil I have for whether they suit me. He

will use the computer rather than kinesiology; we'll see if they agree!

Best regards

Rowena

Slackstone - possibly a useful tool. (Dialytic water)

About uses of dialytic water:

http://www.slackstone.com/eng/indications.php?bf=1 & dm=0

Dialytic Water sweeps out and eliminates mineral residue from the whole

body.

About the inventor:

http://www.slackstone.com/eng/inventor_slackstone_system.php

About the science:

http://www.slackstone.com/eng/physical_foundation.php?bf=1 & dm=0 The only

aim of the SLACKSTONE II® ampoule is to act as a medium to transform normal

water into Dialytic Water. Dialytic Water has properties that eliminate

and/or impede the formation of crystalline bodies in the system (all types

of stone, gravel, microcrystals, etc., wherever these may be). Since 1966,

the SLACKSTONE II® used to prepare Dialytic Water has been sold in packets

containing 2 ampoules (for 40/80 days of treatment) and today can be found

in several different countries.

How it is used: http://www.slackstone.com/eng/instructions_use.php?bf=1 & dm=0

A vial is placed in a 250 cc glass of water for 24 hours. The water is then

consumed immediately without shaking. The ampoul is then put in the

refilled glass ready for the next dose. 40 glasses canbe prepared from one

ampoule. For a curative dose, two glasses a day, so two ampules needed.

For preventive dose, one glass a day, one ampoule only needed, second one

can be used after that.

Results:

http://www.slackstone.com/eng/results_observations.php?bf=1 & dm=0

A physical, not chemical action. " There are two types of calcium present in

the human body: amorphous calcium (colloidal) and ionic calcium

(metallic).Colloidal calcium is used to form bones, blood, bile, etc. Ionic

calcium is used to form salts, specifically carbonates, phosphates, oxalates

and calcium urates, which can be very harmful when they crystallize. This is

the type of calcium eliminated by Dialytic Water. Dialytic Water avoids the

dangers associated with decalcification, as when prepared in this way, water

does not attack colloidal calcium, and only physically disintegrates the

actual structures of the crystalline elements making up the

stones.Therefore, Dialytic Water does not lead to decalcification, as it

does not act against the colloidal (amorphous) type of calcium; just against

the formations of metallic calcium salts (ionic). "

Report on Kirlian Photography:

http://www.slackstone.com/eng/kirlian_photographs.php?bf=1 & dm=0

Difference in Normal and treated water.

http://www.slackstone.com/eng/leaflet.php?bf=1 & dm=0

Leaflet. Recommends 3 months of treatment, then a break.

User statements

http://www.slackstone.com/eng/statements.php?bf=1 & dm=0

renal and gall bladder mainly

Addresses:

http://www.slackstone.com/eng/useful_addresses.php?bf=1 & dm=0

Calexico USA; France, Scandinavia, Portugal, South America. Made in Spain.

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hugs Helen and (8,systemic)

>

> Hi there!!

>

> I have had Arthritis since I was 8 years old. I am now 13 years old.

I

> am no long able to play my favorite sport, basketball. I have

already

> had two surgreys in my years of having Arthritis. I don't think that

> any child should be put through as much pain as I have been through.

I

> am not as active as I was before i got Arthritis. Nobody in my

family

> as Arthritis but me. My doctors aren't quit sure if I will ever be

> able to play basketball or be active ever again, because everytime I

> am active I always fall on my leg and get hurt. So then I am on

> cruches for like a month.

>

[Guest guest]

Hi ck,

Not sure what your real name is, but sorry you also have JRA and sorry to

hear you are no longer able to play your favorite sport. No one else in my

family has the disease either. We are the lucky ones. Through all them

pain, it has changed me for the better and I would not have it any other

way. Ok, ok, sometimes I wish I would get a break.

taylor (35 poly since 12)

Arthritis

Hi there!!

I have had Arthritis since I was 8 years old. I am now 13 years old. I

am no long able to play my favorite sport, basketball. I have already

had two surgreys in my years of having Arthritis. I don't think that

any child should be put through as much pain as I have been through. I

am not as active as I was before i got Arthritis. Nobody in my family

as Arthritis but me. My doctors aren't quit sure if I will ever be

able to play basketball or be active ever again, because everytime I

am active I always fall on my leg and get hurt. So then I am on

cruches for like a month.

[Guest guest]

I could not resist replying...

You said, " Through all them

pain, it has changed me for the better and I would not have it any other

way. Ok, ok, sometimes I wish I would get a break. "

Amen to this statement. I too firmly believe that arthur has brought a lot

into my life and although some of it has not been good. I have learned so much

about people and life as a result and I wouldn't change things. Sure there

are days I still hate arthritis but I always say what we have already said, " I

have arthritis, it does not have me " .

Donna

[Guest guest]

This is our first real report on oste0-arthritis. I posted to our

files. Thanks, Shirley, journeyman, the first reporter on osteo. We

appreciate it. It will break new ground and help a lot of others.

You've filed other reports and are in there pitching..

Journey Man Ziller! Nice.

bG

>

> The osteoarthritis (m.d. diagnosed) in my fingers was first

stopped by a

> Croft zapper, and is kept at bay by any thing electrical!!

Godzilla and a

> Sota Beck unit both do the job. When I get careless and fail to

zap for a

> while, then the Heberden's Nodes begin to get achy and red. When I

begin

> using the electricity again, they quickly lose redness and

soreness. I

> don't often get careless since I don't like losing ground, but it

has

> happened. EVERY time, the electrical units eliminated the

problems. The

> Nodes have reduced in size, but are still there. They are not

painful at

> all, nor are they hot and red. Since this reaction has happened

more than

> once, it seems likely that there is a bacterial, viral, and/or

fungal

> component to this condition. Seems that way to me anyway. I will

use

> electricity for anything and everything if I can at all. It helps

> everything. And the 6 volt unit is so very, very cheap. Wish

every single

> person in the world would use one. Much happier world. pj

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the info. Could you tell me how many minutes you used the

electricity and how many time a day. I have tried it for osteo in my thumbs

with out success.

dass

baby_grand <bobluhrs@...> wrote:

This is our first real report on oste0-arthritis. I posted to our

files. Thanks, Shirley, journeyman, the first reporter on osteo. We

appreciate it. It will break new ground and help a lot of others.

You've filed other reports and are in there pitching..

Journey Man Ziller! Nice.

bG

>

> The osteoarthritis (m.d. diagnosed) in my fingers was first

stopped by a

> Croft zapper, and is kept at bay by any thing electrical!!

Godzilla and a

> Sota Beck unit both do the job. When I get careless and fail to

zap for a

> while, then the Heberden's Nodes begin to get achy and red. When I

begin

> using the electricity again, they quickly lose redness and

soreness. I

> don't often get careless since I don't like losing ground, but it

has

> happened. EVERY time, the electrical units eliminated the

problems. The

> Nodes have reduced in size, but are still there. They are not

painful at

> all, nor are they hot and red. Since this reaction has happened

more than

> once, it seems likely that there is a bacterial, viral, and/or

fungal

> component to this condition. Seems that way to me anyway. I will

use

> electricity for anything and everything if I can at all. It helps

> everything. And the 6 volt unit is so very, very cheap. Wish

every single

> person in the world would use one. Much happier world. pj

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I have extreme heartburn! Is that normal for us?

Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless handheld

arthritis

Do any of you have arthritis?  Stomach problems?  I'm wondering if this is all

connected with my Samter's.  Or if the pain just transfers from one place to

another.  Thank you again for all your information and support.  I truly am

grateful for this group! 

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