Zypan(Standard Process) vs Natural Factors betaine HCL for digestion/Lactic Acid

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Ive heard of people getting good results with zypan. Is the Natural factors

Betaine HCL more effective than zypan? Anyone try zypan vs the Natural factors .

Zypan does have some Betaine HCL along with other digestive ingredients.

Ive heard that the colon is to be slightly acidic and candida(fungus) favors

more of an alkaline environment in the colon. Is that why Lactic acid bacteria

is in the colon and bifidus (non-Lactic acid bacteria) is in the small

intestines. Seems like Candida does not like acid components-- Caprylic " acid " ,

ascorbic " acid " , Garlic(Sulfuric " acid " ) etccc... seems to me like the colon

needs to be slightly acidic for proper bowel movements/right environment of

Lacto-bacteria. Maybe the acid produced by lactic acid bacteria in the colon is

what helps push the bowels out? --Just like too much vitamin C (Ascorbic " acid " )

can cause faster bowel movement.

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> Ive heard of people getting good results with zypan. Is the Natural factors

Betaine HCL more effective than zypan? Anyone try zypan vs the Natural factors .

Zypan does have some Betaine HCL along with other digestive ingredients.

+++Hi . Only betaine HCl is going to help digestion, and not any other

kinds of digestive enzymes or ingredients, because of how your digestive system

works. I suggest you read my article on Stomach Acid to understand this better:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/dig14.php

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> Ive heard that the colon is to be slightly acidic and candida(fungus) favors

more of an alkaline environment in the colon. Is that why Lactic acid bacteria

is in the colon and bifidus (non-Lactic acid bacteria) is in the small

intestines. Seems like Candida does not like acid components-- Caprylic " acid " ,

ascorbic " acid " , Garlic(Sulfuric " acid " ) etccc... seems to me like the colon

needs to be slightly acidic for proper bowel movements/right environment of

Lacto-bacteria. Maybe the acid produced by lactic acid bacteria in the colon is

what helps push the bowels out? --Just like too much vitamin C (Ascorbic " acid " )

can cause faster bowel movement.

+++It isn't true the colon should be slightly acidic in order to be healthy,

since it produces baking soda in order to keep itself alkaline, just like the

mouth and the small intestines do. Candida can grow in an alkaline or acidic

environment so that's why people can have candida in their mouth, in their

stomach (which is acidic), in the intestines, and also on their skin which

normally is acidic.

That's why I don't recommend taking probiotics, since I have reasons to believe

they are only formed in the body under certain bad conditions caused by bad

foods, undigested fibers (cell walls of all carbs/plant foods) that humans

cannot break down, toxins, etc.

My first clue to problems with probiotics was in Dr. Weston A. Price's book

Nutrition and Physical Degeneration. He writes on page 436: " In this group, the

saliva, before the treatment began, gained 1.5 per cent in inorganic phosphorus

[found in meats and eggs}; whereas after treatment, the saliva lost 13.9 per

cent of its inorganic phosphorus. [Note: In the previous paragraph he explains

that phosphorus needed for teeth and bones is higher in the saliva of people

with cavities.]

The change in nutrition included an increase in the activator X (research at the

Weston A. Price Foundation found activator X is vitamin K2, a fatty acid) and

vitamin A content as concentrated from a high-vitamin butter and a reduction in

carbohydrates; also an increase in mineral-providing foods.

Before the change in nutrition, when the tooth decay was considered active, L.

acidophilous averaged, for the group, 323,000 colonies per cubic centimeter of

saliva, and, after treatment, averaged 15,000. "

So my question is, IF good bacteria, like L. acidophilous, are so important than

why do people who get proper nutrients like Dr. Price provided, have less L.

acidophilous? That makes me question the role good bacteria plays in the body,

and how and why the body creates good bacteria.

Many references state that acidophilous is a lactic acid producing bacteria

which is what causes tooth decay/cavities as Dr. Price discovered. Lactic acid

is also called a bacteria. Also when acidophilous is broken down it releases

hydrogen peroxide. Hydrogen peroxide is oxygenating.

Our bodies are constantly producing lactic acid during metabolism, which it

makes from another form of acid, called pyruvic acid, in combination with a

number of enzymes. Lactic acid does not increase in concentration until the

rate of lactate production exceeds the rate of lactate removal which is governed

by a number of factors by the body itself.

Under conditions of excess glucose and limited oxygen the body produces pyruvic

acid, which is used, as noted above, to create lactic acid.

Lactic acid bacteria, usually found in decomposing plants and lactic products,

produce lactic acid as the major end-product of carbohydrate fermentation.

Acidification inhibits the growth of spoilage agents in foods.

Therefore, good bacteria create an acidic environment. However a healthy small

and large intestine are alkaline, so that's why they naturally produce baking

soda, and also why bile is alkaline.

The mouth produces enzymes that start digestion of carbs which can only work in

an alkaline environment, so the mouth needs to be alkaline. So it makes sense

what Dr. Price wrote that L. acidopilous was lower in the mouth when the person

got proper nutrition. When stomach acid increases enough it stops digestion of

carbs. Carb digestion is continued in the small intestines. Stomach acid

mainly digests protein.

As the food squirts out of the stomach into the first part of the small

intestines, called the duodenum, if the pancreas detects that the mixture

contains enough fluids and stomach acid it is able to do its job. First the

mixture must be made alkaline, so the pancreas pours lots of bicarbonate of soda

(baking soda) onto the mixture. Then the pancreas produces digestive enzymes to

further digest protein, carbs and fats, and those enzymes only work on an

alkaline mixture, just like enzymes in the mouth. Therefore, wouldn't it stand

to reason that if the small intestine is not alkaline it cannot digest properly.

Therefore probiotics get neutralized too, just like all of the stomach contents

do, if digestion is to proceed like it should in the small intestines.

In searching for information I found that " supposedly " good bacteria are found

in the small and large intestines. If that is true then those good bacteria

would make the intestines acidic, which would interfere with digestion. Like

the mouth, maybe good bacteria in the intestines is a sign of poor health due to

an excess of glucose and lack of oxygen.

Very little is left of foods at the end of the small intestine, which mainly

consists of undigestible carb fibres, residues of secretions, dead cells (the

intestinal lining regenerates itself every 4 days, so there's a lot of dead

cells) and water.

The large intestines' main functions are to absorb water from the remaining

indigestible food matter, to digest undigestible matter which requires the

creation of bacteria and yeast, and to pass useless waste material from the

body, and to produce some vitamins.

Therefore, I believe good bacteria are formed by the body itself when they are

necessary, just like our bodies create bacteria in order to clean itself up.

However that idea is foreign to people today who believe in the false germ

theory of disease.

In any case, taking probiotics by mouth isn't going to be beneficial in any way.

Taking probiotics by mouth isn't going to affect the large intestine. I found

out that the only way to introduce good bacteria into the large intestines is by

enema, that is IF the large intestines needs them.

There is also evidence that some people have no probiotics in their intestines

yet they are very healthy. Go figure.

The best in health, Bee