Blood test

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Tammie...

I don't remember your genotype, but it used to be that 1s (whether 'a' or 'b')

didn't have an RNA (viral load) run until 6 months into treatment. That might

have changed because I'm a 1b, just did treatment through the County hospital

and they ran an RNA around 2 months into treatment. Now that could just have

been the way County does it...I don't know. I did Pegasys with Ribavarinn and

probably had there not been a significant drop in my viral load, they would have

pulled me from treatment. Fortunately I was undetectable and ended up doing 49

weeks of treatment.

The first treatment I did was Rebetron (a combo treatment before the pegs were

developed) and although my viral load dropped considerably during treatment, I

didn't respond.

I'm 2 months post treatment and when I went for my one month post treatment RNA

results this week, it was discovered that either the lab lost my blood or the

results since they weren't in the system. So another blood pull and another

month to wait for the results.

As far as your LFTs, those could very well have dropped because you are on

treatment. Even if we don't respond to treatment, the time we spend on treatment

are known to help our livers. Claudine can probably explain this better...I

don't pay much attention to studies and stats like I used to, I don't even

remember the normal counts like I used to...I'm a bit jaded with all that stuff

and just live a healthy life and don't worry about my hep c.

And some people don't ever have elevated LFTs...I never have.

Tatezi

blood test

Well, my blood test came back yesterday and the white counts are

still down a little, but not low enough to bother with (sigh). I was

thrilled about that. I hate those shots.

Anyway, the nurse told me that my liver counts are back down into the

normal range. I took this as a good sign. Please tell me that it is

actually a good sign LOL.

<><TammieD><>

ps. I will not have the test for viral load (am I using that phrase

right?) for another 3 months.

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Tammie...

I don't remember your genotype, but it used to be that 1s (whether 'a' or 'b')

didn't have an RNA (viral load) run until 6 months into treatment. That might

have changed because I'm a 1b, just did treatment through the County hospital

and they ran an RNA around 2 months into treatment. Now that could just have

been the way County does it...I don't know. I did Pegasys with Ribavarinn and

probably had there not been a significant drop in my viral load, they would have

pulled me from treatment. Fortunately I was undetectable and ended up doing 49

weeks of treatment.

The first treatment I did was Rebetron (a combo treatment before the pegs were

developed) and although my viral load dropped considerably during treatment, I

didn't respond.

I'm 2 months post treatment and when I went for my one month post treatment RNA

results this week, it was discovered that either the lab lost my blood or the

results since they weren't in the system. So another blood pull and another

month to wait for the results.

As far as your LFTs, those could very well have dropped because you are on

treatment. Even if we don't respond to treatment, the time we spend on treatment

are known to help our livers. Claudine can probably explain this better...I

don't pay much attention to studies and stats like I used to, I don't even

remember the normal counts like I used to...I'm a bit jaded with all that stuff

and just live a healthy life and don't worry about my hep c.

And some people don't ever have elevated LFTs...I never have.

Tatezi

blood test

Well, my blood test came back yesterday and the white counts are

still down a little, but not low enough to bother with (sigh). I was

thrilled about that. I hate those shots.

Anyway, the nurse told me that my liver counts are back down into the

normal range. I took this as a good sign. Please tell me that it is

actually a good sign LOL.

<><TammieD><>

ps. I will not have the test for viral load (am I using that phrase

right?) for another 3 months.

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----- Original Message -----

From: tammster62

Anyway, the nurse told me that my liver counts are back down into the

normal range. I took this as a good sign. Please tell me that it is

actually a good sign LOL.

<><TammieD><>

Yes, that is a good sign!

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----- Original Message -----

From: tammster62

Anyway, the nurse told me that my liver counts are back down into the

normal range. I took this as a good sign. Please tell me that it is

actually a good sign LOL.

<><TammieD><>

Yes, that is a good sign!

[Guest guest]

> Yes, that is a good sign!

Ya'll are such a good group. Thank you all for the encouragment.

<><TammieD><>

[Guest guest]

> Yes, that is a good sign!

Ya'll are such a good group. Thank you all for the encouragment.

<><TammieD><>

[Guest guest]

> Yes, that is a good sign!

Ya'll are such a good group. Thank you all for the encouragment.

<><TammieD><>

[Guest guest]

> Yes, that is a good sign!

Ya'll are such a good group. Thank you all for the encouragment.

<><TammieD><>

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In a message dated 9/1/2004 8:23:50 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

claudineintexas@... writes:

Anyway, the nurse told me that my liver counts are back down into the

normal range. I took this as a good sign. Please tell me that it is

actually a good sign LOL.

<><TammieD><>

Yes, that is a good sign!!!!!!!!!!! What that means is that " de drugs " are

working and your liver is able to function without over working itself.

Frequently, when genotype 1 a or b patients go on treatment there liver

functions

shoot through the ceiling. Nobody knows exactly why this is. I suspect that

it's because the liver has been chugging along trying to function under protest

and duress and suddenly gets help and goes into overdrive. Then things settle

down and the liver goes back to something that looks closer to normal values

as it allows the medication to do it's work. That's me speaking, not anything

the docs say.

Rejoice!

Anne

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In a message dated 9/1/2004 8:23:50 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

claudineintexas@... writes:

Anyway, the nurse told me that my liver counts are back down into the

normal range. I took this as a good sign. Please tell me that it is

actually a good sign LOL.

<><TammieD><>

Yes, that is a good sign!!!!!!!!!!! What that means is that " de drugs " are

working and your liver is able to function without over working itself.

Frequently, when genotype 1 a or b patients go on treatment there liver

functions

shoot through the ceiling. Nobody knows exactly why this is. I suspect that

it's because the liver has been chugging along trying to function under protest

and duress and suddenly gets help and goes into overdrive. Then things settle

down and the liver goes back to something that looks closer to normal values

as it allows the medication to do it's work. That's me speaking, not anything

the docs say.

Rejoice!

Anne

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Yes! A CBC (or Complete Blood Count) would give you that information and a

high White Blood Cell (WBC) count does indicate the presence of infection.

Although it is my understanding that most states in the US require a

doctor's order to perform drawing blood. Does she have any other symptoms,

like a low grade fever (Temp of 99-100 degrees F)

From: " torimus01 " <torimus01@...>

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Subject: blood test

Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2005 23:15:49 -0000

Hi ......can anybody tell me if there is a blood test that can detect

for M.E?  Or is there any other test to determine if there is some

kind of infection present?.........i have a friend who thinks they

have M.E..........she suffers from chronic fatigue...and has done so

for many years. She was wondering if the beck protocol would help and

i said that if the fatigue was due to some low grade microbial

infection then yes.

Do they do a blood test that determines the presence of high amounts

of white blood cells?...could this indicate some infection

present?.....your thoughts would be most welcome

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>

> Can any body tell me what type of blood test should we take as I have

> done Liver Function Test and Blood Complete Picture Test of my wife

> for checking. The ALT level and serum billirubin is within range but

> in Blood CP its ESR is higher 68 with minimum range is 15. Also her

> PCV, MCH and MCHC are lower than the minimum range. last month she was

> diagnosed as Hep C and we started herbal medicine and now she is

> feeling well and at the start her ALT level was also very high above

> maximum range and now it is under normal. Can any body know these PCV

> and MCHCs. will the affect in disease?

> Thanks

>PCV

> and MCHCs. will the affect in disease?

> Thanks

>

Dont play with your health see a health care provider and find out the

facts....I've been through two sessions of interferion and find i am not

a responder...maybe you feel herbal medicine will help but unless you

fill the vial or make the pills yourself you really dont know for sure

what you are taking that is why

doctors dont recommend this kind of treatment. Maybe your wife does

feel better, but is it because you have faith and having support both

mental and physical really is the key. Bless you for being there !

[Guest guest]

Hi Durrani1,

I understnd you wanting to know what all the blood work means, but this is

something you need to go over with a specialist. This self evaluation can be

very dangerous because this is a very complex virus with effects on your kidneys

and pancreas in addition to your liver.

I eat foods and drink teas heavy in antioxidents and have a sensible diet. I

have managed to keep my viral load down but have problems with fatique. I am a

type !A. I have not gotten treatment yet and in my particular situation I may

not, I have other health and situational problems that I need to change before I

start any treatment.

Please be careful with the herbal remedies, some are very powerful and without

proper guidence you could really do some damange to yourself.

Good Luck and take care.

Ellen

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Hi Mazzmate

Your TSH is WAY too high. The reference range is normally around 0.5 to 5.00. Your GP must increase your dose of thyroxine with immediate effect, and if she refuses, you should be referred to an endocrinologist at your local hospital. You need to get your Free T4 tested and your Free T3 and also, it would be a good idea to test to see if you have antibodies to your thyroid. Your cholesterol probably will decrease once you get on the right dose of thyroxine - but 25 mcgs is a miniscule dosage and will do you no good whatsoever.

Luv - Sheila

Hello Sheila, joined the group about 5 weeks ago when diagnosed with under active thyroid, after insisting on blood tests, not Prozac. Went for my second blood test today after being on Levothyroxine 25micros for just over 6 weeks. You originally asked what my results were but I didn't have them, well today I managed to get a look and my TSH which appears to be the only thyroid test they did was 29.5,can you tell me what this means exactly? My blood glucose was 5.2 and my cholesterol was 5.6, but the doc already told me she would just monitor that and it may come down when my thyroid is sorted. Thanks for being here.

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-Hi , see the GP next week, only went for my second blood test

with nurse yesterday, and asked her if I might know result of the

initial test. She was perfectly willing to let me see, and did say that

she thought given the high TSH the GP would be raising the

Levothyroxine. The reason I am on such a low dose is the fact that its

a new diagnosis and my age being 61 recommends that I start at the

lowest dose and move up in gentle stages, which I can

understand...better safe than sorry. I am still feeling unwell but must

admit that over the last 6 weeks even on such a low dose I am feeling

less tired, less irritable and less hopeless in my outlook. I just look

forward to feeling even better in the near future. Must say that this

site is giving me a lot of useful information.People are really kind

and helpful...because I am anxious and scared about this illness, and

need lots of reassurance that I will be okay. Bit of a cry baby

really !! Mazzmate

-- In thyroid treatment , " jenny stenning "

<jennystenning@...> wrote:

>

> Hi Mazzmate,

> I hope your GP increased dose- 29 is still a very high

TSH.

> You're right cholesterol should reduce as your thyroid gets under

control.

>

>

> today I managed to get a look and my TSH which

> appears to be the only thyroid test they did was 29.5,can you tell me

> what this means exactly? My blood glucose was 5.2 and my cholesterol

> was 5.6, but the doc already told me she would just monitor that and

it

> may come down when my thyroid is sorted. Thanks for being here.

>

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Hi Mazzmate - my endo started me 25 mcg of levothyroxine and I did see a difference very quickly, Im now up to 100 mcg a year later and am still getting better with no ill effects, though I did try to increase it a bit quicker than the endo suggested and felt ill and had migraine, so dropped back and continued as he suggested. So I think sometimes taking it slowly can work very well - my endo takes it much more slowly than the protocol suggests and its working for me, although now feeling much better I am contemplating whether to ask him about T3 or Armour, or whether just to get some T3 and try it myself.

Anyway, glad you are starting to feel better, though its still early days, I think that's a good indication that you will get some improvement from the levothyroxine.

Gill

-Hi , see the GP next week, only went for my second blood test with nurse yesterday, and asked her if I might know result of the initial test. She was perfectly willing to let me see, and did say that she thought given the high TSH the GP would be raising the Levothyroxine. The reason I am on such a low dose is the fact that its a new diagnosis and my age being 61 recommends that I start at the lowest dose and move up in gentle stages, which I can understand...better safe than sorry

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Bit of a cry baby

really !! Mazzmate

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From: mazzmate mrp@...

Not at all! I was feeling utterly miserable and I think my TSH was only nearly 6! You feel as sorry for yourself as you like you're amongst friends

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Hi Mazzmate,

Yes, important to increase slowly to avoid stress to the heart,

especially if you have been unwell for years, but increase you must, note

that a full replacement dose is 125 to 150 mcg so you have a long way to go

and should continue to increase at 6 week intervals until you are nearing a

TSH of around 1.0 then slow down to fine tune you should find it easier to

tolerate increasing doses as you get more thyroid med in your system unless

you have adrenal issues. Good to hear that you are feeling some benefit

already however small. Keep a diary of your tests, doses and how you felt at

each stage- it may be useful in the future to monitor your progress.

I am still feeling unwell but must

admit that over the last 6 weeks even on such a low dose I am feeling

less tired, less irritable and less hopeless in my outlook. I just look

forward to feeling even better in the near future. Must say that this

site is giving me a lot of useful information.People are really kind

and helpful...because I am anxious and scared about this illness, and

need lots of reassurance that I will be okay. Bit of a cry baby

really !! Mazzmate

[Guest guest]

Hi Sheila, yes im going to ask him when I see him but if he doesnt say yes then I am seriously considering if I should try T3 or Armour alone, but wont make a decision on this til I see what he has to say.

Gill

HiGill

I wouldn't start T3 on your own. I would definitely have a chat with Dr B and see what he suggests. By asking him, if he recommends it, you will get it free on the NHS but if not, you will be left having to buy it for the rest of your life because if you start this yourself, and then tell Dr B, he might not be happy that you have done that.

Luv - Sheila

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Hi Gill

Just wanted to let you know that I see the same endo as you. It was he

who suggested I try some T3, so here's hoping he will let you too.

Love Lizzie

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Hi Lizzie, thanks for this. Did you have to persuade him or were your bloods showing that you werent converting? I did mention this to him about 6 months ago and he did say he didnt really believe in T3 - that's why Im not sure. If you could tell me what 'did it for you' that might help!!

thanks

Gill

Hi GillJust wanted to let you know that I see the same endo as you. It was hewho suggested I try some T3, so here's hoping he will let you too.Love Lizzie

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Hi Gill

I got the feeling he did'nt really know what to do with me. My T4 was

13.2 and T3 was 4.2 and he said that showed that i was converting. He

wasn't happy to increase my T4 because when I had previously been on a

100mcg my T4 had been 26.7. So, I think he really felt as though he

couldn't send me away without trying something. It was definitely him

who said we could perhaps add in 10mcg of T3 and see how it goes. I

did ask him if he would consider Armour and his response was that it

would be the last thing he would want to try. I can certainly say that

the T3 has helped a lot, although I am having a break at the moment to

boost my adrenals before I go back on it. Good luck!

Love Lizzie

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Hi jan

For somebody on T4 only, the blood results for TSH would be expected to be around 1.0 or slightly less. For somebody who is taking Armour, the TSH would in all likelihood, be completely suppressed. This what frightens medical practitioners who suddenly see this drop when a patient is taking Armour. Basically, as you are taking all the thyroid hormones your body requires, your TSH (which comes from the pituitary) has no need to send out messages to tell the thyroid to pump out more hormones.

Luv - Sheila

Hi SheilaCould you tell me the difference between the TSH and T4 blood testresults for someone on Armour as opposed to someone on T4 alone, please?I'm sure this has come up before on the forum, but I can't seem tofind it. Sorry.Jan

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Jan and Sheila,

Sheila wrote:

>

> For somebody on T4 only, the blood results for TSH would be expected to

> be around 1.0 or slightly less. For somebody who is taking Armour, the

> TSH would in all likelihood, be completely suppressed...

T4 and FT4 would also be lower on Armour.

Chuck

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Chuck

T4 and T3 blood test results for those on Armour will not be lower

We find that our results for those of us on Armour show T4 and T3 to be in the upper third of the reference range - and often right at the top, which is to be expected. This is why we recommend our members to not take Armour for at least 24 hours before testing. We recommend this because if our T3 is too high and our TSH is naturally suppressed, the doctor almost always tells us "you are taking too much and showing signs of hyper" and they try to drop our dose. Because doctors in the UK THR. This is a mistake.

Sheila

Jan and Sheila,Sheila wrote:> > For somebody on T4 only, the blood results for TSH would be expected to > be around 1.0 or slightly less. For somebody who is taking Armour, the > TSH would in all likelihood, be completely suppressed...T4 and FT4 would also be lower on Armour.Chuck

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