Re: Hep C antibody? - Hi Pooderdog [Bek]

February 7, 2011

Hi, You mean i don't have Hep C since i only show the antibody?? I hope that is so. I did just have the viral load tested last month. It is not detectable. And my liver enzymes are normal. SO is that good news?I just have the symptoms of it. The muscle pain and joint pain, and sick like feeling. Downer. Since there isn't a thing i can do for that. Right?Thanks,Bek

From: Christ <ludichrist2000@...> Cc: Sent: Sunday, February 6, 2011 9:47 PMSubject: [ ] Hep C antibody? - Hi Pooderdog [bek]

Hi Bek

Wecome to the Warriors.

We will try to help you find answers, and give you support.

Give us a chance, there is a lot of knowledge and experiance here.

First - if I were you - I would have a Viral Load test, along with complete Liver Function Labs.

If you have already done this, do it again, just to make sure of where you stand today.

If you show positive for HCV, but still do not have a Viral Load today, you may be one of the lucky people whose body has fought off the HCV, and all you show now is the anti-bodys.

- The anti-body IS NOT hepatitis C.

- The anti-body only shows that at sometime you were exposed to HCV.

Then your GP, and you, can concentrate on finding other answers to your health problems.

Do you understand?

love

don in ks

From: pooderdog <pooderdog@...>Subject: [ ] Hep. C antibody? Date: Sunday, February 6, 2011, 6:55 PM

Hi, I am new to this group. I can't find answers anywhere. I was diagnosed with Hep. C two years ago, then found that I had no detectable viral load. I have felt sick and hurt for so many years i have lost count. I also have Leaky Gut Syndrome, Fibromyalgia or muscle pain and joint pain. I also developed candida, heavy metal toxicity to lead, mercury, and cadmium. I also have some food allergies and mold allergy. I believe the Hep. C came first and then the other things developed but no dr. has ever told me this. No dr. has ever helped me out of 16 of them.I am wondering how to treat the problems i have if I have no viral load? I changed my diet to all non hormone, no antibiotic, and mostly organic veggies about 7 months ago.Nothing I have done has helped me feel better. I stretch and walk daily.I lead a non stressful life as much as possible.I don't

know if the pain and the flu like sick feeling is due to the Hep. C antibody or is due to the LGS, FM, heavy metals, etc...No one is able to tell me.I don't know whether to keep eating the way i do or to remove my mercury fillings and go through oral DMSA chelation. OR do nothing and live like this the rest of the time i have.I am now 50 years old, and skinny since i have no appetite. I do eat, but do not eat fattening foods or junk. So when i eat it is always so healthy i don't gain weight. I weigh 123 lbs. at 5'7". Does anyone have any ideas what to do? I am desperate. I also feel exhausted all the time, esp. after exercise. My life is no good. I don't work, can't. Feel sick always, sleep well due to meds.I have tryed every supplement known to man.I have talked with Lloyd and read his book. Of course he just keeps wanting me to spend more money on his supplements. I

can't.Thank you for listening.Totally tryed it all.Bek.------------------------------------

February 7, 2011

Bek,Nope... you don't have hep c. The antibody is just showing that you were exposed to it and it is gone. Your body fought it off on its own. YES that is VERY GOOD NEWS. The symptoms you are experiencing are not from hep c. They are from something else. You need to find a doctor to discover what is causing your other symptoms.

So happy we were able to clear this up for you!Hugs,TeriOn Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 1:03 PM, Hill <pooderdog@...> wrote:

Hi, You mean i don't have Hep C since i only show the antibody?? I hope that is so. I did just have the viral load tested last month. It is not detectable. And my liver enzymes are normal.

SO is that good news?I just have the symptoms of it. The muscle pain and joint pain, and sick like feeling. Downer. Since there isn't a thing i can do for that. Right?Thanks,Bek

From: Christ <ludichrist2000@...>

Cc: Sent: Sunday, February 6, 2011 9:47 PM

Subject: [ ] Hep C antibody? - Hi Pooderdog [bek]

Hi Bek

Wecome to the Warriors.

We will try to help you find answers, and give you support.

Give us a chance, there is a lot of knowledge and experiance here.

First - if I were you - I would have a Viral Load test, along with complete Liver Function Labs.

If you have already done this, do it again, just to make sure of where you stand today.

If you show positive for HCV, but still do not have a Viral Load today, you may be one of the lucky people whose body has fought off the HCV, and all you show now is the anti-bodys.

- The anti-body IS NOT hepatitis C.

- The anti-body only shows that at sometime you were exposed to HCV.

Then your GP, and you, can concentrate on finding other answers to your health problems.

Do you understand?

love

don in ks

From: pooderdog <pooderdog@...>Subject: [ ] Hep. C antibody?

Date: Sunday, February 6, 2011, 6:55 PM

Hi, I am new to this group. I can't find answers anywhere. I was diagnosed with Hep. C two years ago, then found that I had no detectable viral load. I have felt sick and hurt for so many years i have lost count. I also have Leaky Gut Syndrome, Fibromyalgia or muscle pain and joint pain. I also developed candida, heavy metal toxicity to lead, mercury, and cadmium. I also have some food allergies and mold allergy. I believe the Hep. C came first and then the other things developed but no dr. has ever told me this. No dr. has ever helped me out of 16 of them.I am wondering how to treat the problems i have if I have no viral load? I changed my diet to all non hormone, no antibiotic, and mostly organic veggies about 7 months ago.Nothing I have done has helped me feel better. I stretch and walk daily.I lead a non stressful life as much as possible.I don't

know if the pain and the flu like sick feeling is due to the Hep. C antibody or is due to the LGS, FM, heavy metals, etc...No one is able to tell me.I don't know whether to keep eating the way i do or to remove my mercury fillings and go through oral DMSA chelation. OR do nothing and live like this the rest of the time i have.I am now 50 years old, and skinny since i have no appetite. I do eat, but do not eat fattening foods or junk. So when i eat it is always so healthy i don't gain weight. I weigh 123 lbs. at 5'7 " . Does anyone have any ideas what to do? I am desperate. I also feel exhausted all the time, esp. after exercise. My life is no good. I don't work, can't. Feel sick always, sleep well due to meds.I have tryed every supplement known to man.I have talked with Lloyd and read his book. Of course he just keeps wanting me to spend more money on his supplements. I

can't.Thank you for listening.Totally tryed it all.Bek.------------------------------------

February 7, 2011

OMGOSH! Really?? AMazing! That is good news. Ok, thanks.Now I have been to 16 MD's and 3 naturopaths. Went all the way to GA and NC. One tested me and found leaky gut syndrome, candida, heavy metal toxicity, and food allergy. So maybe that is what is causing the muscle and joint pain and the sick feeling.I do not have a dr. now since none could help. The guy who tested me, he only tweaked my diet some to help with the food allergies. That is all. So i stopped traveling to see him. And he cost a fortune each visit was over $300!I am seeing a wellness coach and he is changing things. But I don't think i will ever be frree of the Fibro and joint like pain.I think once you have it you usuallly keep that.So thanks hon. Bek

From: Theresa Gottlieb <theresagottlieb@...> < >Cc: Sent: Monday, February 7, 2011 2:06 PMSubject: Re: [ ] Hep C antibody? - Hi Pooderdog [bek]

Bek,

Nope... you don't have hep c. The antibody is just showing that you were exposed to it and it is gone. Your body fought it off on its own. YES that is VERY GOOD NEWS. The symptoms you are experiencing are not from hep c. They are from something else. You need to find a doctor to discover what is causing your other symptoms.

So happy we were able to clear this up for you!

Hugs,Teri

On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 1:03 PM, Hill <pooderdog@...> wrote:

Hi, You mean i don't have Hep C since i only show the antibody?? I hope that is so. I did just have the viral load tested last month. It is not detectable. And my liver enzymes are normal. SO is that good news?I just have the symptoms of it. The muscle pain and joint pain, and sick like feeling. Downer. Since there isn't a thing i can do for that. Right?Thanks,Bek

From: Christ <ludichrist2000@...> Cc: Sent: Sunday, February 6, 2011 9:47 PMSubject: [ ] Hep C antibody? - Hi Pooderdog [bek]

Hi Bek

Wecome to the Warriors.

We will try to help you find answers, and give you support.

Give us a chance, there is a lot of knowledge and experiance here.

First - if I were you - I would have a Viral Load test, along with complete Liver Function Labs.

If you have already done this, do it again, just to make sure of where you stand today.

If you show positive for HCV, but still do not have a Viral Load today, you may be one of the lucky people whose body has fought off the HCV, and all you show now is the anti-bodys.

- The anti-body IS NOT hepatitis C.

- The anti-body only shows that at sometime you were exposed to HCV.

Then your GP, and you, can concentrate on finding other answers to your health problems.

Do you understand?

love

don in ks

From: pooderdog <pooderdog@...>Subject: [ ] Hep. C antibody? Date: Sunday, February 6, 2011, 6:55 PM

Hi, I am new to this group. I can't find answers anywhere. I was diagnosed with Hep. C two years ago, then found that I had no detectable viral load. I have felt sick and hurt for so many years i have lost count. I also have Leaky Gut Syndrome, Fibromyalgia or muscle pain and joint pain. I also developed candida, heavy metal toxicity to lead, mercury, and cadmium. I also have some food allergies and mold allergy. I believe the Hep. C came first and then the other things developed but no dr. has ever told me this. No dr. has ever helped me out of 16 of them.I am wondering how to treat the problems i have if I have no viral load? I changed my diet to all non hormone, no antibiotic, and mostly organic veggies about 7 months ago.Nothing I have done has helped me feel better. I stretch and walk daily.I lead a non stressful life as much as possible.I don't know if the pain and the flu like sick feeling is due to the

Hep. C antibody or is due to the LGS, FM, heavy metals, etc...No one is able to tell me.I don't know whether to keep eating the way i do or to remove my mercury fillings and go through oral DMSA chelation. OR do nothing and live like this the rest of the time i have.I am now 50 years old, and skinny since i have no appetite. I do eat, but do not eat fattening foods or junk. So when i eat it is always so healthy i don't gain weight. I weigh 123 lbs. at 5'7". Does anyone have any ideas what to do? I am desperate. I also feel exhausted all the time, esp. after exercise. My life is no good. I don't work, can't. Feel sick always, sleep well due to meds.I have tryed every supplement known to man.I have talked with Lloyd and read his book. Of course he just keeps wanting me to spend more money on his supplements. I can't.Thank you for listening.Totally tryed it all.Bek.------------------------------------MEMBERS WITH

WEBSITES ABOUT HEP C:'s website: http://www.healthyhepper.comPam's website: http://www.HEALSoftheSouth.org and http://www.HEALSoftheSouth.comScarlet's website: http://www.youngliving.org/scarletADD Your Website, Support Group, Newsletter or HEP C LINKS to the Healthy Hepper Hepatitis Database-Directory: http://www.healthyhepper.com/db/dbsearch.htm

February 7, 2011

Bek,Unfortunately the Fibro is with you. I feel your pain as I have Fibromyalgia myself. Now.. all these other things.... the heavy metal toxicity and the others... have they all been diagnosed by different doctors? And what kind of doctor diagnosed these things? I am a little suspect of the path you have been lead down here. I'm thinking a regular GP close to home is all you need... and let him decide about the things you have been told. Don't tell him you have all these things... tell him what symptoms you have let him decide the best path to take to get you feeling your very best. Sometimes when there are too many hands in the cookie jar you wind up with nothing but crumbs! One good doc is all you need.

Hugs,TeriOn Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 1:14 PM, Hill <pooderdog@...> wrote:

OMGOSH! Really?? AMazing! That is good news. Ok, thanks.Now I have been to 16 MD's and 3 naturopaths. Went all the way to GA and NC. One tested me and found leaky gut syndrome, candida, heavy metal toxicity, and food allergy. So maybe that is what is causing the muscle and joint pain and the sick feeling.

I do not have a dr. now since none could help. The guy who tested me, he only tweaked my diet some to help with the food allergies. That is all. So i stopped traveling to see him. And he cost a fortune each visit was over $300!

I am seeing a wellness coach and he is changing things. But I don't think i will ever be frree of the Fibro and joint like pain.I think once you have it you usuallly keep that.So thanks hon. Bek

From: Theresa Gottlieb <theresagottlieb@...>

< >Cc:

Sent: Monday, February 7, 2011 2:06 PMSubject: Re: [ ] Hep C antibody? - Hi Pooderdog [bek]

Bek,

Nope... you don't have hep c. The antibody is just showing that you were exposed to it and it is gone. Your body fought it off on its own. YES that is VERY GOOD NEWS. The symptoms you are experiencing are not from hep c. They are from something else. You need to find a doctor to discover what is causing your other symptoms.

So happy we were able to clear this up for you!

Hugs,Teri

On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 1:03 PM, Hill <pooderdog@...> wrote:

Hi, You mean i don't have Hep C since i only show the antibody?? I hope that is so. I did just have the viral load tested last month. It is not detectable. And my liver enzymes are normal.

SO is that good news?I just have the symptoms of it. The muscle pain and joint pain, and sick like feeling. Downer. Since there isn't a thing i can do for that. Right?Thanks,Bek

From: Christ <ludichrist2000@...>

Cc:

Sent: Sunday, February 6, 2011 9:47 PMSubject: [ ] Hep C antibody? - Hi Pooderdog [bek]

Hi Bek

Wecome to the Warriors.

We will try to help you find answers, and give you support.

Give us a chance, there is a lot of knowledge and experiance here.

First - if I were you - I would have a Viral Load test, along with complete Liver Function Labs.

If you have already done this, do it again, just to make sure of where you stand today.

If you show positive for HCV, but still do not have a Viral Load today, you may be one of the lucky people whose body has fought off the HCV, and all you show now is the anti-bodys.

- The anti-body IS NOT hepatitis C.

- The anti-body only shows that at sometime you were exposed to HCV.

Then your GP, and you, can concentrate on finding other answers to your health problems.

Do you understand?

love

don in ks

From: pooderdog <pooderdog@...>Subject: [ ] Hep. C antibody?

Date: Sunday, February 6, 2011, 6:55 PM

Hi, I am new to this group. I can't find answers anywhere. I was diagnosed with Hep. C two years ago, then found that I had no detectable viral load. I have felt sick and hurt for so many years i have lost count. I also have Leaky Gut Syndrome, Fibromyalgia or muscle pain and joint pain. I also developed candida, heavy metal toxicity to lead, mercury, and cadmium. I also have some food allergies and mold allergy. I believe the Hep. C came first and then the other things developed but no dr. has ever told me this. No dr. has ever helped me out of 16 of them.I am wondering how to treat the problems i have if I have no viral load? I changed my diet to all non hormone, no antibiotic, and mostly organic veggies about 7 months ago.Nothing I have done has helped me feel better. I stretch and walk daily.I lead a non stressful life as much as possible.I don't know if the pain and the flu like sick feeling is due to the

Hep. C antibody or is due to the LGS, FM, heavy metals, etc...No one is able to tell me.I don't know whether to keep eating the way i do or to remove my mercury fillings and go through oral DMSA chelation. OR do nothing and live like this the rest of the time i have.I am now 50 years old, and skinny since i have no appetite. I do eat, but do not eat fattening foods or junk. So when i eat it is always so healthy i don't gain weight. I weigh 123 lbs. at 5'7 " . Does anyone have any ideas what to do? I am desperate. I also feel exhausted all the time, esp. after exercise. My life is no good. I don't work, can't. Feel sick always, sleep well due to meds.I have tryed every supplement known to man.I have talked with Lloyd and read his book. Of course he just keeps wanting me to spend more money on his supplements. I can't.Thank you for listening.Totally tryed it all.Bek.------------------------------------MEMBERS WITH

WEBSITES ABOUT HEP C:'s website: http://www.healthyhepper.comPam's website: http://www.HEALSoftheSouth.org and http://www.HEALSoftheSouth.comScarlet's website: http://www.youngliving.org/scarletADD Your Website, Support Group, Newsletter or HEP C LINKS to the Healthy Hepper Hepatitis Database-Directory: http://www.healthyhepper.com/db/dbsearch.htm

February 7, 2011

Bek,Just another thing here... I started doing a little research for you.. this is what I found on " Leaky Gut Syndrome " . It's suspect at best.

Leaky gut syndrome is a hypothetical and unproven medical diagnosis based upon a theory on which there is a condition of altered or damaged bowel lining, caused by toxins, poor diet, parasites, infection or medications, which has led to increased permeability of the gut wall to substances which normally remain isolated in the lumen, away from the body's internal circulatory or interstitial areas.[1] NSAIDS such as aspirin are known to erode the gut lining and cause inflammation[2], other medications such as corticosteroids suppress immune function and disturb intestinal flora[3][4][5], and antibiotics indiscriminately kill bacteria causing bacterial flora disruptions in the small intestine[6].

It has been proposed that, when substances such as toxins, microbes, undigested food, waste or larger than normal macromolecules leak through an abnormally-permeable gut wall, they affect the body directly, while others postulate an immune reaction to these substances.[7]

Although commonly diagnosed by alternative practitioners, leaky gut syndrome is not a recognized medical condition[8].

This is the kind of thing that you wind up getting when you are seeing several different types of doctors at one time. I imagine this diagnosis came from an alternative medicine person. The medical community does not recognize this as a real medical condition. Were you diagnosed with heavy metal toxicity by an alternative medicine person as well? To me it's starting to sound like you've been thrown under the bus by some snake oil salesman.... just sayin.... This can happen when we are not sure what is happening with our bodies and we are reaching for answers.

Again, my best advice to you is to find a doctor, one that has MD after his name, that is close by to where you live and have him check you out. Just go in for a physical and tell him what problems you are having.

As I said before, I too have Fibromyalgia. Mine set in during treatment for hep c. It took my doctor a while to find just the right drugs to help me but I feel so much better than I did before. Granted, I am not anywhere near 100% but I am not in pain all the time anymore either.

Hugs,TeriOn Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 1:14 PM, Hill <pooderdog@...> wrote:

OMGOSH! Really?? AMazing! That is good news. Ok, thanks.Now I have been to 16 MD's and 3 naturopaths. Went all the way to GA and NC. One tested me and found leaky gut syndrome, candida, heavy metal toxicity, and food allergy. So maybe that is what is causing the muscle and joint pain and the sick feeling.

I do not have a dr. now since none could help. The guy who tested me, he only tweaked my diet some to help with the food allergies. That is all. So i stopped traveling to see him. And he cost a fortune each visit was over $300!

I am seeing a wellness coach and he is changing things. But I don't think i will ever be frree of the Fibro and joint like pain.I think once you have it you usuallly keep that.So thanks hon. Bek

From: Theresa Gottlieb <theresagottlieb@...>

< >Cc:

Sent: Monday, February 7, 2011 2:06 PMSubject: Re: [ ] Hep C antibody? - Hi Pooderdog [bek]

Bek,

Nope... you don't have hep c. The antibody is just showing that you were exposed to it and it is gone. Your body fought it off on its own. YES that is VERY GOOD NEWS. The symptoms you are experiencing are not from hep c. They are from something else. You need to find a doctor to discover what is causing your other symptoms.

So happy we were able to clear this up for you!

Hugs,Teri

On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 1:03 PM, Hill <pooderdog@...> wrote:

Hi, You mean i don't have Hep C since i only show the antibody?? I hope that is so. I did just have the viral load tested last month. It is not detectable. And my liver enzymes are normal.

SO is that good news?I just have the symptoms of it. The muscle pain and joint pain, and sick like feeling. Downer. Since there isn't a thing i can do for that. Right?Thanks,Bek

From: Christ <ludichrist2000@...>

Cc:

Sent: Sunday, February 6, 2011 9:47 PMSubject: [ ] Hep C antibody? - Hi Pooderdog [bek]

Hi Bek

Wecome to the Warriors.

We will try to help you find answers, and give you support.

Give us a chance, there is a lot of knowledge and experiance here.

First - if I were you - I would have a Viral Load test, along with complete Liver Function Labs.

If you have already done this, do it again, just to make sure of where you stand today.

If you show positive for HCV, but still do not have a Viral Load today, you may be one of the lucky people whose body has fought off the HCV, and all you show now is the anti-bodys.

- The anti-body IS NOT hepatitis C.

- The anti-body only shows that at sometime you were exposed to HCV.

Then your GP, and you, can concentrate on finding other answers to your health problems.

Do you understand?

love

don in ks

From: pooderdog <pooderdog@...>Subject: [ ] Hep. C antibody?

Date: Sunday, February 6, 2011, 6:55 PM

Hi, I am new to this group. I can't find answers anywhere. I was diagnosed with Hep. C two years ago, then found that I had no detectable viral load. I have felt sick and hurt for so many years i have lost count. I also have Leaky Gut Syndrome, Fibromyalgia or muscle pain and joint pain. I also developed candida, heavy metal toxicity to lead, mercury, and cadmium. I also have some food allergies and mold allergy. I believe the Hep. C came first and then the other things developed but no dr. has ever told me this. No dr. has ever helped me out of 16 of them.I am wondering how to treat the problems i have if I have no viral load? I changed my diet to all non hormone, no antibiotic, and mostly organic veggies about 7 months ago.Nothing I have done has helped me feel better. I stretch and walk daily.I lead a non stressful life as much as possible.I don't know if the pain and the flu like sick feeling is due to the

Hep. C antibody or is due to the LGS, FM, heavy metals, etc...No one is able to tell me.I don't know whether to keep eating the way i do or to remove my mercury fillings and go through oral DMSA chelation. OR do nothing and live like this the rest of the time i have.I am now 50 years old, and skinny since i have no appetite. I do eat, but do not eat fattening foods or junk. So when i eat it is always so healthy i don't gain weight. I weigh 123 lbs. at 5'7 " . Does anyone have any ideas what to do? I am desperate. I also feel exhausted all the time, esp. after exercise. My life is no good. I don't work, can't. Feel sick always, sleep well due to meds.I have tryed every supplement known to man.I have talked with Lloyd and read his book. Of course he just keeps wanting me to spend more money on his supplements. I can't.Thank you for listening.Totally tryed it all.Bek.------------------------------------MEMBERS WITH

WEBSITES ABOUT HEP C:'s website: http://www.healthyhepper.comPam's website: http://www.HEALSoftheSouth.org and http://www.HEALSoftheSouth.comScarlet's website: http://www.youngliving.org/scarletADD Your Website, Support Group, Newsletter or HEP C LINKS to the Healthy Hepper Hepatitis Database-Directory: http://www.healthyhepper.com/db/dbsearch.htm

February 7, 2011

I have been to so many i can't find a good one now. The last one last month, he looked at my test results from the dr. in NC, naturopath, and told me he couldn't help me. He did do the liver test.No only one dr. diagnosed me with the conditions i listed.Bek

From: Theresa Gottlieb <theresagottlieb@...> < >Cc: Sent: Monday, February 7, 2011 2:20 PMSubject: Re: [ ] Hep C antibody? - Hi Pooderdog [bek]

Bek,

Unfortunately the Fibro is with you. I feel your pain as I have Fibromyalgia myself. Now.. all these other things.... the heavy metal toxicity and the others... have they all been diagnosed by different doctors? And what kind of doctor diagnosed these things? I am a little suspect of the path you have been lead down here. I'm thinking a regular GP close to home is all you need... and let him decide about the things you have been told. Don't tell him you have all these things... tell him what symptoms you have let him decide the best path to take to get you feeling your very best. Sometimes when there are too many hands in the cookie jar you wind up with nothing but crumbs! One good doc is all you need.

Hugs,Teri

On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 1:14 PM, Hill <pooderdog@...> wrote:

OMGOSH! Really?? AMazing! That is good news. Ok, thanks.Now I have been to 16 MD's and 3 naturopaths. Went all the way to GA and NC. One tested me and found leaky gut syndrome, candida, heavy metal toxicity, and food allergy. So maybe that is what is causing the muscle and joint pain and the sick feeling.I do not have a dr. now since none could help. The guy who tested me, he only tweaked my diet some to help with the food allergies. That is all. So i stopped traveling to see him. And he cost a fortune each visit was over $300!I am seeing a wellness coach and he is changing things. But I don't think i will ever be frree of the Fibro and joint like pain.I think once you have it you usuallly keep that.So thanks hon. Bek

From: Theresa Gottlieb <theresagottlieb@...> < >Cc: Sent: Monday, February 7, 2011 2:06 PMSubject: Re: [ ] Hep C antibody? - Hi Pooderdog [bek]

Bek,

Nope... you don't have hep c. The antibody is just showing that you were exposed to it and it is gone. Your body fought it off on its own. YES that is VERY GOOD NEWS. The symptoms you are experiencing are not from hep c. They are from something else. You need to find a doctor to discover what is causing your other symptoms.

So happy we were able to clear this up for you!

Hugs,Teri

On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 1:03 PM, Hill <pooderdog@...> wrote:

Hi, You mean i don't have Hep C since i only show the antibody?? I hope that is so. I did just have the viral load tested last month. It is not detectable. And my liver enzymes are normal. SO is that good news?I just have the symptoms of it. The muscle pain and joint pain, and sick like feeling. Downer. Since there isn't a thing i can do for that. Right?Thanks,Bek

From: Christ <ludichrist2000@...> Cc: Sent: Sunday, February 6, 2011 9:47 PMSubject: [ ] Hep C antibody? - Hi Pooderdog [bek]

Hi Bek

Wecome to the Warriors.

We will try to help you find answers, and give you support.

Give us a chance, there is a lot of knowledge and experiance here.

First - if I were you - I would have a Viral Load test, along with complete Liver Function Labs.

If you have already done this, do it again, just to make sure of where you stand today.

If you show positive for HCV, but still do not have a Viral Load today, you may be one of the lucky people whose body has fought off the HCV, and all you show now is the anti-bodys.

- The anti-body IS NOT hepatitis C.

- The anti-body only shows that at sometime you were exposed to HCV.

Then your GP, and you, can concentrate on finding other answers to your health problems.

Do you understand?

love

don in ks

From: pooderdog <pooderdog@...>Subject: [ ] Hep. C antibody? Date: Sunday, February 6, 2011, 6:55 PM

Hi, I am new to this group. I can't find answers anywhere. I was diagnosed with Hep. C two years ago, then found that I had no detectable viral load. I have felt sick and hurt for so many years i have lost count. I also have Leaky Gut Syndrome, Fibromyalgia or muscle pain and joint pain. I also developed candida, heavy metal toxicity to lead, mercury, and cadmium. I also have some food allergies and mold allergy. I believe the Hep. C came first and then the other things developed but no dr. has ever told me this. No dr. has ever helped me out of 16 of them.I am wondering how to treat the problems i have if I have no viral load? I changed my diet to all non hormone, no antibiotic, and mostly organic veggies about 7 months ago.Nothing I have done has helped me feel better. I stretch and walk daily.I lead a non stressful life as much as possible.I don't know if the pain and the flu like sick feeling is due to the

Hep. C antibody or is due to the LGS, FM, heavy metals, etc...No one is able to tell me.I don't know whether to keep eating the way i do or to remove my mercury fillings and go through oral DMSA chelation. OR do nothing and live like this the rest of the time i have.I am now 50 years old, and skinny since i have no appetite. I do eat, but do not eat fattening foods or junk. So when i eat it is always so healthy i don't gain weight. I weigh 123 lbs. at 5'7". Does anyone have any ideas what to do? I am desperate. I also feel exhausted all the time, esp. after exercise. My life is no good. I don't work, can't. Feel sick always, sleep well due to meds.I have tryed every supplement known to man.I have talked with Lloyd and read his book. Of course he just keeps wanting me to spend more money on his supplements. I can't.Thank you for listening.Totally tryed it all.Bek.------------------------------------MEMBERS WITH

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February 7, 2011

I would imagine that the doc said he couldn't help you because of the reports from the naturopath... I am sure I am going to get some pushback on what I am about to say from people on the forum but here goes... Most of the time, MD's don't play well with non MD persons that diagnose. Does that make sense? Most doctors will call Chiropractors quacks just because they don't play well together. That doesn't mean a chiropractor is a quack, but in the eyes of the MD.. he is. Same thing with any type of alternative medicines. Now, there is a doctor out there called Dr. Berkenson who actually uses alternative medicine and he's a real doctor too... He is the exception and not the rule though. When you see a doctor and tell them what the alternative people have told you, many times the doctor is going to say that he can't help you. The reason he can't help you is because you now believe that you have a diagnosis that he doesn't believe in.

I had the same GP for 11 years. He was the one that diagnosed me with hep c, got me to a specialist and thru treatment. Last year I went to him with talk of Fibromyalgia. I had done my research and it appeared that I fit into the mold. My doc of 11 years said " You have all the symptoms but I don't believe that Fibromyalgia is real " and til today he stands by that comment. Since that day I have been diagnosed with Fibromyalgia by 4 other doctors. I have Fibro and it is real. My doctor of 11 years is no longer my doctor because he wouldn't help me. He didn't believe in the diagnosis. I found another doctor.

The heavy metal toxicity and leaky gut diagnosis are both suspect. I wouldn't throw a whole lot of credence into either one of those options. I would go back and talk to the last doctor you saw though... maybe he can help.

Hugs,TeriOn Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 1:37 PM, Hill <pooderdog@...> wrote:

I have been to so many i can't find a good one now. The last one last month, he looked at my test results from the dr. in NC, naturopath, and told me he couldn't help me. He did do the liver test.

No only one dr. diagnosed me with the conditions i listed.Bek

From: Theresa Gottlieb <theresagottlieb@...>

< >Cc:

Sent: Monday, February 7, 2011 2:20 PMSubject: Re: [ ] Hep C antibody? - Hi Pooderdog [bek]

Bek,

Unfortunately the Fibro is with you. I feel your pain as I have Fibromyalgia myself. Now.. all these other things.... the heavy metal toxicity and the others... have they all been diagnosed by different doctors? And what kind of doctor diagnosed these things? I am a little suspect of the path you have been lead down here. I'm thinking a regular GP close to home is all you need... and let him decide about the things you have been told. Don't tell him you have all these things... tell him what symptoms you have let him decide the best path to take to get you feeling your very best. Sometimes when there are too many hands in the cookie jar you wind up with nothing but crumbs! One good doc is all you need.

Hugs,Teri

On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 1:14 PM, Hill <pooderdog@...> wrote:

OMGOSH! Really?? AMazing! That is good news. Ok, thanks.Now I have been to 16 MD's and 3 naturopaths. Went all the way to GA and NC. One tested me and found leaky gut syndrome, candida, heavy metal toxicity, and food allergy. So maybe that is what is causing the muscle and joint pain and the sick feeling.

I do not have a dr. now since none could help. The guy who tested me, he only tweaked my diet some to help with the food allergies. That is all. So i stopped traveling to see him. And he cost a fortune each visit was over $300!

I am seeing a wellness coach and he is changing things. But I don't think i will ever be frree of the Fibro and joint like pain.I think once you have it you usuallly keep that.So thanks hon. Bek

From: Theresa Gottlieb <theresagottlieb@...>

< >Cc:

Sent: Monday, February 7, 2011 2:06 PMSubject: Re: [ ] Hep C antibody? - Hi Pooderdog [bek]

Bek,

Nope... you don't have hep c. The antibody is just showing that you were exposed to it and it is gone. Your body fought it off on its own. YES that is VERY GOOD NEWS. The symptoms you are experiencing are not from hep c. They are from something else. You need to find a doctor to discover what is causing your other symptoms.

So happy we were able to clear this up for you!

Hugs,Teri

On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 1:03 PM, Hill <pooderdog@...> wrote:

Hi, You mean i don't have Hep C since i only show the antibody?? I hope that is so. I did just have the viral load tested last month. It is not detectable. And my liver enzymes are normal.

SO is that good news?I just have the symptoms of it. The muscle pain and joint pain, and sick like feeling. Downer. Since there isn't a thing i can do for that. Right?Thanks,Bek

From: Christ <ludichrist2000@...>

Cc:

Sent: Sunday, February 6, 2011 9:47 PMSubject: [ ] Hep C antibody? - Hi Pooderdog [bek]

Hi Bek

Wecome to the Warriors.

We will try to help you find answers, and give you support.

Give us a chance, there is a lot of knowledge and experiance here.

First - if I were you - I would have a Viral Load test, along with complete Liver Function Labs.

If you have already done this, do it again, just to make sure of where you stand today.

If you show positive for HCV, but still do not have a Viral Load today, you may be one of the lucky people whose body has fought off the HCV, and all you show now is the anti-bodys.

- The anti-body IS NOT hepatitis C.

- The anti-body only shows that at sometime you were exposed to HCV.

Then your GP, and you, can concentrate on finding other answers to your health problems.

Do you understand?

love

don in ks

From: pooderdog <pooderdog@...>Subject: [ ] Hep. C antibody?

Date: Sunday, February 6, 2011, 6:55 PM

Hi, I am new to this group. I can't find answers anywhere. I was diagnosed with Hep. C two years ago, then found that I had no detectable viral load. I have felt sick and hurt for so many years i have lost count. I also have Leaky Gut Syndrome, Fibromyalgia or muscle pain and joint pain. I also developed candida, heavy metal toxicity to lead, mercury, and cadmium. I also have some food allergies and mold allergy. I believe the Hep. C came first and then the other things developed but no dr. has ever told me this. No dr. has ever helped me out of 16 of them.I am wondering how to treat the problems i have if I have no viral load? I changed my diet to all non hormone, no antibiotic, and mostly organic veggies about 7 months ago.Nothing I have done has helped me feel better. I stretch and walk daily.I lead a non stressful life as much as possible.I don't know if the pain and the flu like sick feeling is due to the

Hep. C antibody or is due to the LGS, FM, heavy metals, etc...No one is able to tell me.I don't know whether to keep eating the way i do or to remove my mercury fillings and go through oral DMSA chelation. OR do nothing and live like this the rest of the time i have.I am now 50 years old, and skinny since i have no appetite. I do eat, but do not eat fattening foods or junk. So when i eat it is always so healthy i don't gain weight. I weigh 123 lbs. at 5'7 " . Does anyone have any ideas what to do? I am desperate. I also feel exhausted all the time, esp. after exercise. My life is no good. I don't work, can't. Feel sick always, sleep well due to meds.I have tryed every supplement known to man.I have talked with Lloyd and read his book. Of course he just keeps wanting me to spend more money on his supplements. I can't.Thank you for listening.Totally tryed it all.Bek.------------------------------------MEMBERS WITH

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February 7, 2011

Hi everybody

I hope it is ok if I piggyback on this line of discussion.

I tend to agree with Teri about the 'Leaky Gut Syndrone' - but - I also have something very simular.

And 'Chronic Fatigue Syndrome' use to be poo poo'd just 15 years ago, and today it is fact.

The walls of my digestive track are abnormally thin [genetic - drug/alcohol use - acid foods???].

Occasionally I have toxicity problems from gut fluids leaking into my blood stream, proven by abnormal labs.

Nothing that will kill me, but it has caused me problems and illnesses.

I believe this is also the cause of my 30 year battle with Bleeding Hemorrhoids, which my son also has [this is why I mention genetic].

Multiple operations, and more fiber have not helped this condition.

I tend to disagree with Teri tho about the 'Heavy Metel Toxicity' being suspect.

Im not a medical professional, but I have read and heard things over the years about mercury, iron, chromium, copper, radioactives, and other metels building up in the body.

In the news, I have read that the WTC cleanup workers/responders are having health issues right now about this problem.

I assume that this could be a fact, and very real condition.

I also have Fibromyalgia.

I am recieving very expensive prescribed meds for this condition, paid for by Medicaid.

If this were not a 'real' and accepted medical health issue, I doubt that Medicaid [the Govt], or Insurance companys would pay for the meds.

I have had 7 doctors DX me for Fibromyalgia since 1995, but I have also had some doctors deny its existance, including PAIN doctors.

I have collected a lot of info about Fibromyalgia, and Myalgia's in general in the groups Links Library, because most Hepatitis websites and doctors agree that FM is a related condition.

The articles state that between 5 - 20% of people in the USA, in general, suffer from some sort of Myalgias - mostly wemon.

The problem with Myalgia's is that there is no lab test to DX their existance, and so since there is no 'science', some doctors tend to deny its existance.

The doctors who do accept Myalgia's must DX them by symptoms alone.

There are ways of reading brain scans for pain, but these tests are very expensive, and rarely offered.

Now, most of this is only my opinion, and I am not a medical professional in any way.

I am a hippy musician. LOL :-)

I suggest that every person find a doctor who will work with them to find the root cause of any illness or condition.

And do your own research, because there is a lot of info available about everything.

love

don in ks

From: pooderdog <pooderdog@...>Subject: [ ] Hep. C antibody? Date: Sunday, February 6, 2011, 6:55 PM

Hi, I am new to this group. I can't find answers anywhere. I was diagnosed with Hep. C two years ago, then found that I had no detectable viral load. I have felt sick and hurt for so many years i have lost count. I also have Leaky Gut Syndrome, Fibromyalgia or muscle pain and joint pain. I also developed candida, heavy metal toxicity to lead, mercury, and cadmium. I also have some food allergies and mold allergy. I believe the Hep. C came first and then the other things developed but no dr. has ever told me this. No dr. has ever helped me out of 16 of them.I am wondering how to treat the problems i have if I have no viral load? I changed my diet to all non hormone, no antibiotic, and mostly organic veggies about 7 months ago.Nothing I have done has helped me feel better. I stretch and walk daily.I lead a non stressful life as much as possible.I don't know if the pain and the flu like sick feeling is due to the

Hep. C antibody or is due to the LGS, FM, heavy metals, etc...No one is able to tell me.I don't know whether to keep eating the way i do or to remove my mercury fillings and go through oral DMSA chelation. OR do nothing and live like this the rest of the time i have.I am now 50 years old, and skinny since i have no appetite. I do eat, but do not eat fattening foods or junk. So when i eat it is always so healthy i don't gain weight. I weigh 123 lbs. at 5'7". Does anyone have any ideas what to do? I am desperate. I also feel exhausted all the time, esp. after exercise. My life is no good. I don't work, can't. Feel sick always, sleep well due to meds.I have tryed every supplement known to man.I have talked with Lloyd and read his book. Of course he just keeps wanting me to spend more money on his supplements. I can't.Thank you for listening.Totally tryed it all.Bek.------------------------------------MEMBERS WITH

WEBSITES ABOUT HEP C:'s website: http://www.healthyhepper.comPam's website: http://www.HEALSoftheSouth.org and http://www.HEALSoftheSouth.comScarlet's website: http://www.youngliving.org/scarletADD Your Website, Support Group, Newsletter or HEP C LINKS to the Healthy Hepper Hepatitis Database-Directory: http://www.healthyhepper.com/db/dbsearch.htm

February 7, 2011

Comments in color below! We really are on the same page Don!On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 3:45 PM, Christ <ludichrist2000@...> wrote:

Hi everybody

I hope it is ok if I piggyback on this line of discussion.

I tend to agree with Teri about the 'Leaky Gut Syndrone' - but - I also have something very simular.

And 'Chronic Fatigue Syndrome' use to be poo poo'd just 15 years ago, and today it is fact. Chronic Fatigue Syndrome used to be called Epstein Barr Syndrome... It's been around for decades. Leaky Gut Syndrome as a diagnosis is not accepted in the medical profession. Found that little ditty online!