Vomiting

April 27, 2002

I had a myotomy and funduplication in November 1999 after about 8

months of suffering with achalasia, and losing 35 lbs. I did a lot

of vomiting and gagging prior to the procedure but have had no

problems since. I distinctly remember the surgeon telling me on my

first visit to his office after the surgery that I would no longer be

able to vomit. I thought that was a strange thing to say and I

said, " well I sure won't miss that! " I do still have " small " burps

after drinking a soda though.

I am happy to say my operation was very successful and I would

recommend it to anyone who is not sure. My surgeon felt all other

procedures would be just band-aid solutions for me and I would

eventually require the surgery. I can understand someone being

apprehensive as I was too, but it was all worth it.

All the best to you all................

April 29, 2002

I understand what you were told but do you ever become

sick to your stomach and have the urge to vomit and

then can not? I think and I may be wrong, but I think

that the person is asking or interested in the " what

ifs " ....I know I am. Cathey

--- natvancouver2002 <natvancouver2002@...>

wrote:

> I had a myotomy and funduplication in November 1999

> after about 8

> months of suffering with achalasia, and losing 35

> lbs. I did a lot

> of vomiting and gagging prior to the procedure but

> have had no

> problems since. I distinctly remember the surgeon

> telling me on my

> first visit to his office after the surgery that I

> would no longer be

> able to vomit. I thought that was a strange thing

> to say and I

> said, " well I sure won't miss that! " I do still

> have " small " burps

> after drinking a soda though.

> I am happy to say my operation was very successful

> and I would

> recommend it to anyone who is not sure. My surgeon

> felt all other

> procedures would be just band-aid solutions for me

> and I would

> eventually require the surgery. I can understand

> someone being

> apprehensive as I was too, but it was all worth it.

> All the best to you all................

>

__________________________________________________

October 1, 2002

absolutely! well, except for the tequila! LOL I constantly worry about being so sick as to vomit. knock wood - only happened once so far and I don't remember much about it other than I ended up in the emergency room with a spasm that would not quit. I think they must have given me something to stop the spasm and the heaving but then just sent me home - totally not knowing what it was.... I'm careful about what I eat and anytime I feel queasy I take digestive enzymes, hoping to dissolve whatever might be upsetting my stomach. I've often thought of getting one of those medical alert id bracelets - just in case this or anything else happens since I'm now single and live alone - anyone else have one or thought about it?

Anne

Vomiting

I've read up on all the past posts. I have not read (or did I miss)anything about the trouble with vomiting. I don't mean regirgitating what's in the esophagus. I mean when your tummy doesn't want something there and tries to eject it. Antacids

October 1, 2002

I am very interested in anyone's experience with vomiting. In the 7

years that I have had Achalasia I have really only vomited twice and

the pain was very severe. It felt like I perforated my esophagus and

maybe I did but I never sought medical attention for it at that

time. Now, 4 months after my myotomy and feeling fantastic, I still

worry about what to expect if I was to vomit. Has anyone experienced

vomiting after a myotomy? My biggest fear is that I will perforate

that very thin wall of mucosa and end up in the hospital again. Sandi

October 1, 2002

Since my myotomy, I've had a couple of major bouts (and a few minor ones)

where my body was REALLY trying to throw up (once with food poisoning, once

with flu/pneumonia). However, I was physically unable to do so, so it ended

up being prolonged dry heaves, fever, coughing, gasping, etc., until the bout

was over -- I found it very physically exhausting.

If someone out there with achalasia has frequent or prolonged bouts of

nausea, one possible aid would be to see if your physician will prescribe an

anti-nausea medication in suppository form (no need to try to swallow it!).

After my myotomy, my GI at the time prescribed this for me and had me keep it

on hand in the refrigerator for " emergency " use. Definitely better than

hours and hours of dry heaves.

California

sholtsmith wrote:

> I am very interested in anyone's experience with vomiting. In the 7

> years that I have had Achalasia I have really only vomited twice and

> the pain was very severe. It felt like I perforated my esophagus and

> maybe I did but I never sought medical attention for it at that

> time. Now, 4 months after my myotomy and feeling fantastic, I still

> worry about what to expect if I was to vomit. Has anyone experienced

> vomiting after a myotomy? My biggest fear is that I will perforate

> that very thin wall of mucosa and end up in the hospital again. Sandi

>

October 17, 2002

, I find your comment very interesting and just had a brain

storm. I wonder if the ability to vomit after the Myotomy might

have something to do with the kind of wrap or no wrap thing. I

am not real familiar with them, but some people I know don't

have the wrap done, some I have heard referred to as partial wrap

etc. This might make another interesting survey. What you think?

MaggWho

Alabama

è have been interested by the posts of vomiting, too. I

è threw up a nice juicy 4 days after my myotemy surgery. I

è think something I took as medicine made me queasy. I

è tried to settle it with coke and crackers. WOW...the coke

è four days after surgery was NOT a good idea. I threw up

è within minutes of drinking it. It was easy. I couldn't believe

è it. I was scared to death that I would have pulled or torn

è something, but I didn't. Haven't been sick since, though. I

è know some people can do it some can't, and I don't know

è why.-- in HOuston

October 17, 2002

LOL, Gee , I don't know, as you said you probably shot

it in the foot. I read your mail, the thought hit my lame brain

and I shot off that mail without half thinking as I am prone to do.

Amen to the cooler weather. Where did I read recently that here

in the South we do have 4 seasons.....Almost summer, summer,

Late summer and Christmas?

Thanks for your response.

Magg

Alabama

October 17, 2002

I have been interested by the posts of vomiting, too. I threw up a nice juicy 4

days after my myotemy surgery. I think something I took as medicine made me

queasy. I tried to settle it with coke and crackers. WOW...the coke four days

after surgery was NOT a good idea. I threw up within minutes of drinking it.

It was easy. I couldn't believe it. I was scared to death that I would have

pulled or torn something, but I didn't. Haven't been sick since, though. I

know some people can do it some can't, and I don't know why.--

in HOuston

- In achalasia@y..., " D. Lorentzen " <jdlor@p...> wrote:

>

> Since my myotomy, I've had a couple of major bouts (and a few minor ones)

> where my body was REALLY trying to throw up (once with food poisoning, once

> with flu/pneumonia). However, I was physically unable to do so, so it ended

> up being prolonged dry heaves, fever, coughing, gasping, etc., until the bout

> was over -- I found it very physically exhausting.

>

> If someone out there with achalasia has frequent or prolonged bouts of

> nausea, one possible aid would be to see if your physician will prescribe an

> anti-nausea medication in suppository form (no need to try to swallow it!).

> After my myotomy, my GI at the time prescribed this for me and had me keep it

> on hand in the refrigerator for " emergency " use. Definitely better than

> hours and hours of dry heaves.

>

> California

>

> sholtsmith wrote:

>

> > I am very interested in anyone's experience with vomiting. In the 7

> > years that I have had Achalasia I have really only vomited twice and

> > the pain was very severe. It felt like I perforated my esophagus and

> > maybe I did but I never sought medical attention for it at that

> > time. Now, 4 months after my myotomy and feeling fantastic, I still

> > worry about what to expect if I was to vomit. Has anyone experienced

> > vomiting after a myotomy? My biggest fear is that I will perforate

> > that very thin wall of mucosa and end up in the hospital again. Sandi

> >

October 17, 2002

Magg,

For the record, I have a partial wrap...no problems upchucking. If ther=

e was a connection, I would think it would be that those with wraps would ha=

ve more difficulty...those without a wrap would be more prone to reflux and =

easy upchuck! So goes the theory..I think I shot it in the foot before we g=

ot a poll going, but before you do another poll, I seem to remember someone =

in here a few months ago (6?) who said they couldn't throw up and they gave =

a reason why. Maybe they will write in again and tell us their reason. Wha=

t other questions would you want in this poll?

IN Houston where it is finally COOL AND NOT HUMID!!!!!!!

--

- In achalasia@y..., MaggWho@a... wrote:

> , I find your comment very interesting and just had a brain

> storm. I wonder if the ability to vomit after the Myotomy might

> have something to do with the kind of wrap or no wrap thing. I

> am not real familiar with them, but some people I know don't

> have the wrap done, some I have heard referred to as partial wrap

> etc. This might make another interesting survey. What you think?

>

> MaggWho

> Alabama

> è have been interested by the posts of vomiting, too. I

> è threw up a nice juicy 4 days after my myotemy surgery. I

> è think something I took as medicine made me queasy. I

> è tried to settle it with coke and crackers. WOW...the coke

> è four days after surgery was NOT a good idea. I threw up

> è within minutes of drinking it. It was easy. I couldn't believe

> è it. I was scared to death that I would have pulled or torn

> è something, but I didn't. Haven't been sick since, though. I

> è know some people can do it some can't, and I don't know

> è why.-- in HOuston FAMILY= " SERIF

October 17, 2002

Magg,

For the record, I have a partial wrap...no problems upchucking. If ther=

e was a connection, I would think it would be that those with wraps would ha=

ve more difficulty...those without a wrap would be more prone to reflux and =

easy upchuck! So goes the theory..I think I shot it in the foot before we g=

ot a poll going, but before you do another poll, I seem to remember someone =

in here a few months ago (6?) who said they couldn't throw up and they gave =

a reason why. Maybe they will write in again and tell us their reason. Wha=

t other questions would you want in this poll?

IN Houston where it is finally COOL AND NOT HUMID!!!!!!!

--

- In achalasia@y..., MaggWho@a... wrote:

> , I find your comment very interesting and just had a brain

> storm. I wonder if the ability to vomit after the Myotomy might

> have something to do with the kind of wrap or no wrap thing. I

> am not real familiar with them, but some people I know don't

> have the wrap done, some I have heard referred to as partial wrap

> etc. This might make another interesting survey. What you think?

>

> MaggWho

> Alabama

> è have been interested by the posts of vomiting, too. I

> è threw up a nice juicy 4 days after my myotemy surgery. I

> è think something I took as medicine made me queasy. I

> è tried to settle it with coke and crackers. WOW...the coke

> è four days after surgery was NOT a good idea. I threw up

> è within minutes of drinking it. It was easy. I couldn't believe

> è it. I was scared to death that I would have pulled or torn

> è something, but I didn't. Haven't been sick since, though. I

> è know some people can do it some can't, and I don't know

> è why.-- in HOuston FAMILY= " SERIF

December 6, 2005

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Debbi

March 24, 2006

Hi Sue,

Well, we don't have that vomiting experience, but I would take the

position with the GI that it is critical for her to be able to wear the

bipap mask at night, and this unpredictable vomiting is prevent that,

thus not allowing her sleep apnea to be treated appropriately. Sure, if

a kid as a 2 day bug and can't wear the bipap mask for a night or two,

fine, but it sounds like the randomness makes the mask unsafe for an

undetermined time period. Does the GI think that it's OK for her not to

be following another doctor's prescribed treatment because he

can't/won't figure out the vomiting??????? Perhaps that doctor could

call the GI and (nicely) say " I want Karrie back on the bipap, so figure

out why she is vomiting and stop it " ..... yeah, like that's going to

happen, LOL.

As for " not uncommon " , well, it may not be uncommon, but that doesn't

mean that they can't look for a cause or cure..... I really hate it when

doctors say it like it's the mom who is making the problem, not the

medical issue :-) I would most certainly worry if I had a child (DS or

not) who vomited and didn't wake up and turn her head.

You might try propping up the head of her bed a bit so that she's on

more of an incline..... maybe that way if she vomits gravity will help

so she doesn't aspirate. Maybe a couple cinder blocks and a small piece

of plywood under the mattress, so that it's stable? It doesn't help

with the " why " , but maybe it will keep her safer.

Good luck.... and maybe it is time for a second opinion!

, mom to (10), (8 DS), and (6)

Sue Brown wrote:

>Hi everybody,

>

>Karrie is still randomly vomiting...might be sick 3 times in one week, then

>nothing for several weeks in a row. Because of the unpredictability of the

>vomiting, she is not able to wear a bipap mask to help with her central

>sleep apnea.

>

>GI says it not uncommon for a child to vomit like Karrie does. She is not

>losing weight from it, so they say it's not a big deal.

>

>I say that since she sleeps on her back, vomits in her sleep and then doesn

>t wake enough to turn her head, that it IS a problem.

>

>Does anyone else have a child who vomits like this or have any ideas beyond

>the obvious...maybe I need to find a new GI??

>

>TIA

>

>Sue mom to Kate 16 and Karrie 9 w/ds and other issues

>

March 24, 2006

What does THAT mean? HOW " uncommon " ?

I would say it's not " normal " either!

And I'm with - treating the sleep apnea is vital to her health so the

GI needs to get the

vomiting in check. Sonds like the GI just doesn't want to be bothered. Tell

whoever prescribed the bipap mask and she what he/she thinks about that

comment...

- Becky

In a message dated 3/24/2006 7:41:10 PM Eastern Standard Time,

karriemom@... writes:

GI says it not uncommon for a child to vomit like Karrie does. She is not

losing weight from it, so they say it's not a big deal.

December 31, 2008

good luck viven, you and your family are in my prayers!!

December 31, 2008

good luck viven, you and your family are in my prayers!!

December 31, 2008

good luck viven, you and your family are in my prayers!!

April 1, 2010

My daughter just got a nasty stomach flu. It's going around. It may be unrelated.

Steph

vomiting

I started 7 days ago on three drops of Lugols (strong strength). After three days I experienced sever diarrhea then the next day I ended up in the ER with a serve migraine and 16 hrs of vomiting. I didn't relate it to the iodine as I get terrible migraines like this way too often.I have been tested for food allergies and I am allergic to milk. I avoid sugar and wheat products as well.Now for the last couple of days I have lost my appetite and am having just mild but worrisome stomach pain.Am I detoxing or is there something else I should be doing? My husband started the same day as me and is not experiencing any difficulty at all.

April 1, 2010

It's in colorado too. I was so sick for two weeks and lost 8 lbs. Gained most

of it back though (o;. ~

>

> My daughter just got a nasty stomach flu. It's going around. It may be

unrelated.

>

> Steph

>

> vomiting

>

> I started 7 days ago on three drops of Lugols (strong strength). After three

days I experienced sever diarrhea then the next day I ended up in the ER with a

serve migraine and 16 hrs of vomiting. I didn't relate it to the iodine as I get

terrible migraines like this way too often.

>

> I have been tested for food allergies and I am allergic to milk. I avoid

sugar and wheat products as well.

>

> Now for the last couple of days I have lost my appetite and am having just

mild but worrisome stomach pain.

>

> Am I detoxing or is there something else I should be doing?

>

> My husband started the same day as me and is not experiencing any difficulty

at all.

>

April 4, 2010

Hello Joan,

I have not found anything as effective as the liver/gallbladder flush for toxin

removal. That is, if you take 2 - 600 mg caps of malic acid 3 x per day for at

least 5 days prior. IIn between times, coffee enemas are also very helpful,

especially if you add 1 tabl epsom salts to the 2 cups of coffee you use, and

hold it for 20 min. These re very helpful for people with behavior, personality

and anxiety problems. The coffee enemas help nearly immediately. I would stay

away from the kelp because of the high levels of arsenic in it. And I would not

completely cut the iodine out for times either, back down to a tolerance level

but not out completely. As the iodine frees up receptor sites, there needs to be

a steady supply at least at some level to fulfill them or they will just take up

the halogens or heavy metals again.

Linsey

On Apr 3, 2010, at 4:11 PM, coloredoctave wrote:

> Hi Linsey,

>

> My son started to have gall bladder issues this last week. I think he was

going through detox because his face was breaking out. I took him to a chiro

who muscle tested him and said it was gall bladder. He gave him A-F Betafod,

Standard Process to take and it has given him relief. I am taking it also. It

can't hurt.

>

> Just in my short time in taking iodine I have determined that I need to have a

rhythm. I will take a break periodically to give my body a chance to relax

enough to rid the body naturally of toxins. I actually took two kelp capsules

instead of Iodoral and that gave me great relief.

>

> Joan

>

>>

>> Hello Betsy,

>>

>> I have to say that I never have given iodine to my clients without having

them start liver/gall bladder flushes, as this is so critical for them to be

able to handle the detox that will occur with iodine. Even more important for

females as the hormone mimic toxins, xenoestrogens, are more symptomatic for

females having more estrogen receptor sites. So I suggest you start taking 2

malic acid caps with each meal for a week and then do the liver flush, and then

start trying the iodine again. You will need to keep doing the liver flushes

ever couple of weeks as needed to keep up with the detox symptoms and aid the

body in shuttling the toxins out. In between the liver flushes, I have my

clients take 3 of each together per day of Standardized St. 's Wort and

standardized milk thistle. That should help you a lot with headaches too.

>>

>> To your good health!

>>

>> Linsey McLean

>> Biochemist

>> Vita Royal Prod Inc

>> vitaroyal.com

April 5, 2010

Hi Linsey,

Thank you for your reply. I love the Epson Salt tip. I don't think I can give

a coffee enema to my son. Luckily, there are no behavioral issues, never have

been. Although, he is due for a BM. He has had stomach aches for sometime

now, before iodine, they improved after low level laser. Have you tried A-F

Betafood before?

I really do think one should take breaks from iodine in the beginning. The

receptors will be re-inhabited by halogens but that is part of the healing

process. It is too dangerous to load up the organs with more toxins than they

can handle. There needs to be a balance. I think cleanses are too harsh,

except for the coffee enemas.

I just googled malic acid and learned that it occurs naturally in apples,

grapes, cherries and watermelons. My son is making fresh apple juice as I

write. Thanks for telling me about malic acid. I would rather give my son food

when I can.

I ingest bentonite clay when I take kelp but I'm not afraid of arsenic in small

quantities. I am giving my husband kelp at supper now. He won't take iodine

and selenium and all of the companion vitamins, that isn't going to happen but

he will take kelp. It might not work because there are no free receptors but I

know someone who detoxed on one drop of Lugol's on the skin. There is more than

one way to heal the body.

I'm glad to know about malic acid. I have enjoyed your participation in the

discussions.

Joan

> >>

> >> Hello Betsy,

> >>

> >> I have to say that I never have given iodine to my clients without having