Guest guest Posted August 13, 2002 Report Share Posted August 13, 2002 Are you talking about Zyban? I took that and it made me nutz, paranoid,jitters,even more stressed. I have a chemical imbalance in my brain so I now take celexa. I cannot take welbutrin or any of those smoking things. I tried paxil and zoloft, paxil made me a zombie and zoloft made me an insomniac. LOL Be careful when you start taking anti depressants. Bonnie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 13, 2002 Report Share Posted August 13, 2002 Are you talking about Zyban? I took that and it made me nutz, paranoid,jitters,even more stressed. I have a chemical imbalance in my brain so I now take celexa. I cannot take welbutrin or any of those smoking things. I tried paxil and zoloft, paxil made me a zombie and zoloft made me an insomniac. LOL Be careful when you start taking anti depressants. Bonnie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2003 Report Share Posted March 11, 2003 Yep Jeff I still smoke too. I know I'd feel better if I didn't. It is quite an addiction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2003 Report Share Posted March 11, 2003 Does smoking have a negative effect on the disease at all do you know. As I am a smoker of one pack a day -- Smoking Nicotine, My Nemesis. I have had a love, Hate relationship with the dreaded cigarette for years. Now on treatment, most days my energy level is not were it was, not by a long shot. I know that if I quit I should feel better. Have any of you Heppers quit while on Tx? If so did it help out with the fatigue? Thanks Still Smoking Jeff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2003 Report Share Posted March 11, 2003 Yea I still smoke pack and a half a day.I am in earnest to quit.I'm gonna try hypnotism.I'll let the site know how it works.I have had the smokers cough since about a month into the tx.Never correlated it. --- Jeff <jiffr3@...> wrote: > Nicotine, My Nemesis. I have had a love, Hate > relationship with the > dreaded cigarette for years. Now on treatment, most > days my energy > level is not were it was, not by a long shot. I know > that if I quit I > should feel better. Have any of you Heppers quit > while on Tx? If so > did it help out with the fatigue? Thanks Still > Smoking Jeff. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2003 Report Share Posted March 11, 2003 Jeff, Alas, I am in the same boat as you. I did treatment 4 times and still smoke. BAD bad bad. I can't even imagine what it would be like to try and quit while on these meds though!! Still Puffin away here too~~ LeighAnn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2003 Report Share Posted March 11, 2003 Anyone want to stop smoking as a group? I quit for 10 yrs and then started again so you never know. I am constantly quitting and it drives me crazy. Hubby smokes too and we quit a couple times together but never stayed quit I really want to quit and I'm addicted to the patch also - I hate phillip !!!!!! e-mail me if you want to start a stop smoking group? - hugs, Kerry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2003 Report Share Posted March 11, 2003 That would be cool.I really want to stop but when I try I become really mean.I heard about some herb with hypno gonna try that. --- Kerry12155@... wrote: > Anyone want to stop smoking as a group? > I quit for 10 yrs and then started again so you > never know. > I am constantly quitting and it drives me crazy. > Hubby smokes too and we quit > a couple times together but never stayed quit > I really want to quit and I'm addicted to the patch > also - I hate phillip > !!!!!! > e-mail me if you want to start a stop smoking group? > - hugs, Kerry > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2003 Report Share Posted May 14, 2003 I have quit 2 times. The last time I quit I only felt terrible for 2 days. The habit is what is horribly difficult to overcome. You can do it if you really want to. Best of Luck to you! Donna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2003 Report Share Posted May 14, 2003 I have quit 2 times. The last time I quit I only felt terrible for 2 days. The habit is what is horribly difficult to overcome. You can do it if you really want to. Best of Luck to you! Donna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2003 Report Share Posted May 14, 2003 Willem- I haven't smoked for around 8 yrs now. I finally stopped because I had realized how bad the cigarette smoke makes you smell. So for around a year I was exhaling the smoke and trying to dodge it so as not to smell quite so smokey. I felt very foolish doing that and kept imagining ridiculous images of myself trying to run away from the smoke, and that was what enabled me to quit. You have to reach a point in your life where your desire to quit is stronger than the addiction- or as they say in NA & AA- 'you are sick and tired of being sick' and you've 'hit your rock bottom'. Good luck gail smoking Hi.Since the Hep is gone another life-threatening disease is requiring my attention.Smoking.I smoke a lot and I tried to quite several times,no sustained respons.I know it.s not topic but does anyone knows of a miracle-cure or method to stop smoking?.Willem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2003 Report Share Posted May 14, 2003 I never saw the original to this message. Yes, kicking cigs is awfully hard. And it's not the nicotine that is so difficult but the habit as you said. The nicotine withdrawal takes only 7 days and only a couple of those days are bad. It's not smoking at all the times you usually have a cig that's the hard part. So to whoever is quitting...good luck and remember if you don't succeed this time, you are one step closer to when you will succeed. Tatezi Re: smoking > I have quit 2 times. The last time I quit I only felt terrible for 2 days. > The habit is what is horribly difficult to overcome. > You can do it if you really want to. > Best of Luck to you! > Donna > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2003 Report Share Posted May 15, 2003 Try substituting a cinnamon stick for the cigarette. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2003 Report Share Posted May 15, 2003 Try substituting a cinnamon stick for the cigarette. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2003 Report Share Posted October 27, 2003 Not stupid, but please quit smoking. It plays havoc with your arteries and your heart muscle. (As if you needed someone to tell you that). Norm -----Original Message----- From: Moe Belanger [mailto:moebelanger@...] Sent: Monday, October 27, 2003 12:38 PM Subject: smoking Defib. put in Jan 20, 2003. Quit smoking. No zaps or problems since. Tax audit 2 weeks ago. Started smoking again. Stupid or what. Moe in Calgary, Canada Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2003 Report Share Posted October 27, 2003 A tax audit will not kill you Smoking will The ICD cannot overcome ALL of our bad habits. I quit cold turkey after a major MI. Why don't you do it BEFORE your major MI? Al in Willie Country Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 28, 2003 Report Share Posted October 28, 2003 > Why don't you do it BEFORE your major MI? Because it's not always that easy. Smoking can be an addiction and in more ways than one. The firststep is to find out what is the actual draw. For some it is a nicotine addiction and there are gums and such to deal with that. For others it is an oral fixation or a need to have something to do with the hands. My dad smoked for 42 years. He quit when he was 54. He used a group called Smokenders. But what he discovered was thathe had a serious oral fixation. He tried candy but gained weight, he tried sucking toothpicks but they gave him splinters. Then he found the perfect solution. He was a telephone lineman, then a deskman. That led him to cable ties, those plastic things that hold cables together. He got the great big thick ones and cut them into 4 inch pieces. From then until he developed a brain tumor and died at 62, I don't think I ever saw him without one in his mouth. If it's a hand thing, learn to knit or crochet, carry a worry stone, twirl a pencil, whatever works for you. But anyway, the pointis you need to figure out which aspect has you hooked so you can break the addition. Bridget Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 28, 2003 Report Share Posted October 28, 2003 Never said that it was easy. Actually took me several tries to stop. However my MI brought into focus my choices: 1. Quit smoking. 2. Keep smoking and increase my chances of having another MI. I chose the former. I could have made many excuses for not quitting. I realize it is hard, but it is not impossible to quit smoking. If one really buys the need to quit smoking it becomes a 'no brainer'. Al Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 28, 2003 Report Share Posted October 28, 2003 Al, I understand what you are saying and it was easy for me to quit too. Asthma was my reason. But I watched my dad struggle with it and that made me realize that it is much harder for some than for others. And it also made me see that figuring out which part of was the 'need' was a part of the key to quitting. Bridget > Never said that it was easy. Actually took me several tries to stop. However > my MI brought into focus my choices: > 1. Quit smoking. > 2. Keep smoking and increase my chances of having another MI. > > I chose the former. I could have made many excuses for not quitting. > I realize it is hard, but it is not impossible to quit smoking. > If one really buys the need to quit smoking it becomes a 'no brainer'. > > Al Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 1, 2003 Report Share Posted November 1, 2003 Norm, Al, Bridget, Tommy. Thank you for your support re: smoking. Realize that there only is one answer....QUIT. Moe in Calgary moebelanger@... wrote: Defib. put in Jan 20, 2003. Quit smoking. No zaps or problems since. Tax audit 2 weeks ago. Started smoking again. Stupid or what. Moe in Calgary, Canada Please visit the Zapper homepage at http://www.ZapLife.org Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 18, 2003 Report Share Posted November 18, 2003 Dear Barry, I have a client who is a VERY heavy smoker - 30-60 coffin nails per day - and she is also very overweight! Added to which she consumes a minimum of eleven cups of (instant) coffee per day......... Her ph is manifestly less than desirable. She has no wish to change ANY of her habits and I have told her that I cannot continue to take her money because her health will not change unless she takes some responsibility. I am sad that I an unable to help her make even the smallest change! love Jayne xxx Re: few questions... Noel, re client who stopped smoking. I recall a figure, it is (statistically) more dangerous to your health to smoke a pack of cigarettes a day than to be 50 lb. over weight, so your client needs to be encouraged despite a weight gain. Since he/she has already successfully changed their life style with the addiction elimination of nicotine, moving on to diet and nutrition program should be a piece of cake compared to breaking an addiction. Heavy smokers are thin because it affects the body's ability to absorb nutrients, whacking a healthy metabolism. Barry at QWC ............................................ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 19, 2003 Report Share Posted November 19, 2003 Jayne, one of the most powerful aspects of the QX is its ability to create a reflection of the clients physical, emotional and spiritual health. For those who truly want to change this reflection often leads to the clients realization they can change if they assume responsibility for all dimensions of their health. Their thoughts will shape their superconscious and their superconscious will shape their health. When a client is not willing to accept responsibility for critical life style changes I would be inclined to see that as a death wish and unless the client is willing to approach and attempt to deal with those underlying self destructive issues, I see little hope. You are of course using the highest ethical motivation in refusing additional therapy under these circumstances. Continued therapy will just sustain a delusion that she can remain a bystander in the healing process. Barry at QWC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2004 Report Share Posted January 2, 2004 -Jessie - There will be no smoking in the conference area. I don't know what they will do in their small casino. They are opening up early for our group. So I doubt there will be any smoking the first few hours in the building.-Other email answers.-There is also plenty of parking. Dr. Ortiz and his group will arrive late Friday. Dr. Kuri is due in late Friday or early Saturday morning. There will be a vegetarian soup available at both lunch and dinner. Dinner again is at the hotel. The hotel has plenty of parking. Please finish getting your registrations into . She is waiting patiently. thanks, joanne In , " Jessie H. Ahroni " <jahroni@s...> wrote: > What's the smoking situation at the casino conference center? Does anybody > know? I'm hoping it's " non " but given that it's a casino I'm doubting > that's the case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2004 Report Share Posted July 8, 2004 The interesting thing is that nicotine is a stimulant. So it shouldn't lower stress levels or blood pressure. I don't know much about blood pressure than my mom almost died after hip surgery (she fell and broke her hip in several places). She was on cumodin and they only waited 12 hours before surgery...she had to have numerous blood and plasma transfusions and within hours of surgery her blood pressure dropped to 84 over 40. Course she was in some stick in the mud hospital. But for me too, it lowers my stress level. I don't know, it's just a horrible psychological addiction. Re: Commit (Anne) but you're right smoking does tend to lower my stress level and my blood pressure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2004 Report Share Posted July 8, 2004 The interesting thing is that nicotine is a stimulant. So it shouldn't lower stress levels or blood pressure. I don't know much about blood pressure than my mom almost died after hip surgery (she fell and broke her hip in several places). She was on cumodin and they only waited 12 hours before surgery...she had to have numerous blood and plasma transfusions and within hours of surgery her blood pressure dropped to 84 over 40. Course she was in some stick in the mud hospital. But for me too, it lowers my stress level. I don't know, it's just a horrible psychological addiction. Re: Commit (Anne) but you're right smoking does tend to lower my stress level and my blood pressure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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