Guest guest Posted October 12, 1999 Report Share Posted October 12, 1999 Dear Cheryl, My 10 year old daughter, , has been in treatment (CBT) and prozac for over a year now. She is doing much better overall, but has periods of time when she slides backwards and becomes more compulsive and depressed. I understand your frustration entirely as I get not only frustrated, but also depressed with her. I would call the therapist - you not only need advice on how to handle your daughter, but could use some support and reassurance for yourself. Certainly the therapist would want to know how things are going and try to help! Keep posting - we're here for you. Gail in N'Awlins Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2000 Report Share Posted July 19, 2000 Dear Cheryl, I read your post about the tough times dealing with the co-morbid diagnoses of Bipolar and OCD. My daughter also has vascillated between psychiatric diagnoses: Bipolar, ADHD, OCD, SID, Over-Anxious, MDD, etc. Her therapist describes her as an over-anxious ADHDer, who gets depressed after major anxious/rage episodes.... Basically we know she is severely anxious, has sensory defensiveness, is impulsive and her mood becomes disturbed (rage or depression) as well. She has not done well on any SSRIs as yet (they really agitate her and increase her impulsive behavior). She also has paradoxical side effects on clonipin and benadryl also. She is currently on depakote (mood), neurontin (mood, anxiety, rage), dexadrine (ADHD sypmtoms), and trazadone (to help sleep). It seems an odd combination, but we are making it right now...... Also, for the first time, she is really beginning to work with CBT, so we are quite hopeful about her progress. Anyway, Cheryl, I just wanted to empathize with your feelings of depression and overwhelmingness. I struggle with this on and off----a lot because my has a chronic illness that I periodically have to grieve over. For me, seeing a therapist, spending more " alone " time, and anti-depressant meds have helped. As well as venting in this forum!! I am so thankful for the advice from this forum to take care of myself---this has probably been the info I need to be repeated and repeated, or I find myself suffocating under the weight of the responsibility of having a child with OCD. God bless, and take care, Laurie in WI Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2001 Report Share Posted March 26, 2001 Dear Cheryl, I am so sorry that you are feeling so low. I have been there many times. I too was heartbroken when my son Brook was born and then again when he started having seizures all the time and yet again when the autism symptoms surfaced. The comparisons with Brook and the other children with DS at his infant program were really hard to take.Time will make it easier. If you really feel overwhelmed by feelings of sadness, and crying it would be a great idea to go see a doctor or psychiatrist who can put you on antidepressents. This has helped me so much. We have so much stress in our lives that often something like this can really be too hard to handle on your own. I truly hope you feel better and take action soon if you don't feel better. You are a very important person and your family needs you! I went and saw a psychiatrist myself last Thursday who started me back on medication for depression and anxiety. We just found out last Monday that the company that bought my husband's company wants us all to move out to Montana. Just like that! If we don't go he loses his job and gets a 3 month severence package. I started having panic attacks and that's why I saw the psych. Well my dh is in Montana right now checking it out, I was supposed to go too but decided it wouldn't be good for my mental health with the help of my psych. We just moved to this new house last April for this job and now they do this. Actually they wanted the whole family to go for the weeked which is of course impossible with Brook. I have no idea what services like respite etc, they would have in Montana. I'm starting to feel a little better, thanks to the medication and am hopeful that he will find another job locally. There are a lot of Biotech companies here in the SF Bay Area. I don't think we are going anywhere, I just hope it all works out and life can return to normal, whatever that means. Mom to Miles 14, Brook11, and Gennie3yrs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 27, 2001 Report Share Posted March 27, 2001 Hi Marisa, thanks for the note. I am feeling much better today. I broke down and called a friend who understood as her son has autism. She reminded me that we have already been down this path with my oldest daughter and we will make it down this path again. She told me to remember this isn't a death sentence even if it feels like it is. She asked me to look at my oldest daughter and her son and remember how far they have come, as will Angel in time. Her words really helped me alot. I cried and she totally understood my tears like they were her own, because they had been hers only a few years ago. I am also realizing that a confirmed diagnosis will really help us to get the services and interventions we need to help her. So I am working hard on turning my anger about this into positive working energy and am advocating for the things we need for her. Helps me to feel that we have some control in this. Autism is like a theif in the night that comes and steals our childrens abilities. I want to stop it before it takes anymore from her or us. There is a new 2 year 20 hr per week intensive ABA therapy program beginning in our prov so I am going to work on finding out how to get Angel into it. She has just turned 5 and the prog services kids 6 and under. Unfortunately it is in a city that is 4 hours away from us. So may have to just get put on a wait list for when the prog is established closer to home. I sure hope things work out for your family. We moved to a new community last August to get better education service for our 12 year old and it has been a great move for her. Hard as heck for me though. Had to quit my job, take out a second mortgage, and begin all over again. Won't be wanting to do that again for a long time. My husband is a supervisor for a logging company and travels alot. Boss wanted us to relocate closer to the main office but we chose not too. Was a very hard decision, but couldn't see starting every service all over again. Let me know what you end up deciding to do. Cheryl Re: Re: Cheryl > Dear Cheryl, > I am so sorry that you are feeling so low. I have been there many times. I > too was heartbroken when my son Brook was born and then again when he started > having seizures all the time and yet again when the autism symptoms surfaced. > The comparisons with Brook and the other children with DS at his infant > program were really hard to take.Time will make it easier. If you really feel > overwhelmed by feelings of sadness, and crying it would be a great idea to go > see a doctor or psychiatrist who can put you on antidepressents. This has > helped me so much. We have so much stress in our lives that often something > like this can really be too hard to handle on your own. > I truly hope you feel better and take action soon if you don't feel better. > You are a very important person and your family needs you! > I went and saw a psychiatrist myself last Thursday who started me back > on medication for depression and anxiety. We just found out last Monday that > the company that bought my husband's company wants us all to move out to > Montana. Just like that! If we don't go he loses his job and gets a 3 month > severence package. I started having panic attacks and that's why I saw the > psych. Well my dh is in Montana right now checking it out, I was supposed to > go too but decided it wouldn't be good for my mental health with the help of > my psych. We just moved to this new house last April for this job and now > they do this. Actually they wanted the whole family to go for the weeked > which is of course impossible with Brook. I have no idea what services like > respite etc, they would have in Montana. I'm starting to feel a little > better, thanks to the medication and am hopeful that he will find another job > locally. There are a lot of Biotech companies here in the SF Bay Area. I > don't think we are going anywhere, I just hope it all works out and life can > return to normal, whatever that means. > Mom to Miles 14, Brook11, and Gennie3yrs > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2001 Report Share Posted March 28, 2001 In a message dated 3/28/01 12:55:17 AM Eastern Standard Time, magnussen@... writes: << Autism is like a theif in the night that comes and steals our childrens abilities. I want to stop it before it takes anymore from her or us. >> Good way of putting it Cheryl. It really bugs me when I read the doom and gloom stuff written about autism. YES, we all know how hard it is, but IMO, kids with autism ARE reachable and ARE able to learn and ARE capable of connecting with the human race. Maddie is so different than the little baby she was at the onset of autism. And she's so different than even last year. The autism is still there; it's just that we're learning every day how to bring her into our world. Just like everyone else on this list, we'll do EVERYTHING and ANYTHING to continue to reach our child. We DO NOT feel like this is futile and that we can't effect Maddie's development. Life will continue to throw challenges at us; it does for everyone, DS, autism, both or not. But it is NOT hopeless. All that being said, hearing your child has autism is crushing. I mentally revisit those months of onset often; way more than I revisit her birth and the shock of DS. Duff and I never ever asked ourselves " why us " when we had Maddie, but I sure did when she dx'd with autism. However, I've learned to see this experience in the same light as our experience of having a child with DS. I've learned so very much; we're all better people (yes, despite the nastiness of autism) for dealing with it; I've met the most amazing people (YOU GUYS); and we've learned so much about ourselves and each other (a continuing process). YES, I'd take this burden from Maddie in a heartbeat!! But I can't and it's here and it's taught us all things the rest of the world will never know. That's how I choose to see it!! {{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{hugs}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}} and allow yourself even more grief than you allowed yourself when you learned about the DS. And always come to us; we'll always listen and always understand!!! Donna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2001 Report Share Posted March 28, 2001 Thank you Donna, your post brought tears to my eyes. I have been needing to cry all day, but keep it tucked away at bay. Can't get to the healing without crying though. I am a major crier too so my friends had better watch out. That is how I cleanse my soul, through emptying my tears. Thank you again for sharing your story with me. I have to keep remembering this won't stop her or us if we don't let it. It's just another obsticle to get past. And, hey, life is full of them anyway, so now we'll just be experts at getting past them. Keep thinking God should have made me an olympic hurdle runner as I am getting really good at getting past all the barriers society puts up in front of us. Another funny note is that when Angel escapes I always think that God sure has a funny sense of humor. I always prayed that one of my kids would be a runner and I guess I got one all right. Won't be saying that prayer again, until she is ready to go to special O track team tryouts. Future Gold Medalist Sprinter in training here. This is a great site, and I am really thankful that I have found other parents who can understand. Cheryl Re: Re: Cheryl > In a message dated 3/28/01 12:55:17 AM Eastern Standard Time, > magnussen@... writes: > > << Autism is like a theif in the night that comes and > steals our childrens abilities. I want to stop it before it takes anymore > from her or us. >> > > Good way of putting it Cheryl. It really bugs me when I read the doom and > gloom stuff written about autism. YES, we all know how hard it is, but IMO, > kids with autism ARE reachable and ARE able to learn and ARE capable of > connecting with the human race. Maddie is so different than the little baby > she was at the onset of autism. And she's so different than even last year. > The autism is still there; it's just that we're learning every day how to > bring her into our world. Just like everyone else on this list, we'll do > EVERYTHING and ANYTHING to continue to reach our child. We DO NOT feel like > this is futile and that we can't effect Maddie's development. Life will > continue to throw challenges at us; it does for everyone, DS, autism, both or > not. But it is NOT hopeless. All that being said, hearing your child has > autism is crushing. I mentally revisit those months of onset often; way more > than I revisit her birth and the shock of DS. Duff and I never ever asked > ourselves " why us " when we had Maddie, but I sure did when she dx'd with > autism. However, I've learned to see this experience in the same light as > our experience of having a child with DS. I've learned so very much; we're > all better people (yes, despite the nastiness of autism) for dealing with it; > I've met the most amazing people (YOU GUYS); and we've learned so much about > ourselves and each other (a continuing process). YES, I'd take this burden > from Maddie in a heartbeat!! But I can't and it's here and it's taught us > all things the rest of the world will never know. > That's how I choose to see it!! > {{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{hugs}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}} and allow yourself even more grief than > you allowed yourself when you learned about the DS. And always come to us; > we'll always listen and always understand!!! > Donna > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 31, 2001 Report Share Posted March 31, 2001 At 09:33 PM 3/31/01 -0500, you wrote: >Just had a thought on a doctor that may help you. I'm not sure where in BC you live, but there is a Dr. Fagan in Vancouver or . I heard him speak at a DS conference in Toronto, and thought he was a fantastic speaker. When I went to Vancouver half a year later, I tried to get an appointment with him (no luck, though). I'm not sure if he has alot of knowledge with the dual diagnosis, but he knows DS like the back of his hand. Hope that helps (well only if you live in Vancouver) Oh! He is the nicest man! I went to a presentation he did in BC on DS and I think ADHD, but maybe autism. HE was co-presenting. That's right, he did ADHD. I was struck by how well he understood his topic and kids with DS. I know he's been at hte dsmig meetings for the discussions about ds/autism, so I think your concerns would be well-received. I " m not sure how to contact him, though. I can work on this..... j Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 31, 2001 Report Share Posted March 31, 2001 At 09:33 PM 3/31/01 -0500, you wrote: >Just had a thought on a doctor that may help you. I'm not sure where in BC you live, but there is a Dr. Fagan in Vancouver or . I heard him speak at a DS conference in Toronto, and thought he was a fantastic speaker. When I went to Vancouver half a year later, I tried to get an appointment with him (no luck, though). I'm not sure if he has alot of knowledge with the dual diagnosis, but he knows DS like the back of his hand. Hope that helps (well only if you live in Vancouver) Oh! He is the nicest man! I went to a presentation he did in BC on DS and I think ADHD, but maybe autism. HE was co-presenting. That's right, he did ADHD. I was struck by how well he understood his topic and kids with DS. I know he's been at hte dsmig meetings for the discussions about ds/autism, so I think your concerns would be well-received. I " m not sure how to contact him, though. I can work on this..... j Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 31, 2001 Report Share Posted March 31, 2001 Hi Joan, You know, I think he may be in , which is on Vancouver Island, only 4 hrs from where I live. Where ever he is though, I will ask my ped to refer us to him. Even if he is in Vancouver it is not that far away from us. Only a few hours. Thank you so much for this suggestion. Makes a lot of sense. The video series is put on by whom? DSRF? Do you know where I can get further details? Unfortunately I am booked to teach classes some of those evenings and wouldn't be able to do it all, but even would be good. I was able to talk a 3 month augmentative and alternative communication course at our local college last spring and that was great. Learned alot about it as we used the text, visual strategies for communication as our main guide. Thank you for all your help, and please let me know if you find out how to contact Dr.Fagan and I will give his number to my ped. You are pretty awesome you know. Thanks, Cheryl Re: Cheryl > At 09:33 PM 3/31/01 -0500, you wrote: > >Just had a thought on a doctor that may help you. I'm not sure where in > BC you live, but there is a Dr. Fagan in Vancouver or . I > heard him speak at a DS conference in Toronto, and thought he was a > fantastic speaker. When I went to Vancouver half a year later, I tried to > get an appointment with him (no luck, though). I'm not sure if he has alot > of knowledge with the dual diagnosis, but he knows DS like the back of his > hand. Hope that helps (well only if you live in Vancouver) > > Oh! He is the nicest man! I went to a presentation he did in BC on DS and I > think ADHD, but maybe autism. HE was co-presenting. That's right, he did > ADHD. I was struck by how well he understood his topic and kids with DS. I > know he's been at hte dsmig meetings for the discussions about ds/autism, > so I think your concerns would be well-received. I " m not sure how to > contact him, though. I can work on this..... > > j > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 31, 2001 Report Share Posted March 31, 2001 Hi Joan, You know, I think he may be in , which is on Vancouver Island, only 4 hrs from where I live. Where ever he is though, I will ask my ped to refer us to him. Even if he is in Vancouver it is not that far away from us. Only a few hours. Thank you so much for this suggestion. Makes a lot of sense. The video series is put on by whom? DSRF? Do you know where I can get further details? Unfortunately I am booked to teach classes some of those evenings and wouldn't be able to do it all, but even would be good. I was able to talk a 3 month augmentative and alternative communication course at our local college last spring and that was great. Learned alot about it as we used the text, visual strategies for communication as our main guide. Thank you for all your help, and please let me know if you find out how to contact Dr.Fagan and I will give his number to my ped. You are pretty awesome you know. Thanks, Cheryl Re: Cheryl > At 09:33 PM 3/31/01 -0500, you wrote: > >Just had a thought on a doctor that may help you. I'm not sure where in > BC you live, but there is a Dr. Fagan in Vancouver or . I > heard him speak at a DS conference in Toronto, and thought he was a > fantastic speaker. When I went to Vancouver half a year later, I tried to > get an appointment with him (no luck, though). I'm not sure if he has alot > of knowledge with the dual diagnosis, but he knows DS like the back of his > hand. Hope that helps (well only if you live in Vancouver) > > Oh! He is the nicest man! I went to a presentation he did in BC on DS and I > think ADHD, but maybe autism. HE was co-presenting. That's right, he did > ADHD. I was struck by how well he understood his topic and kids with DS. I > know he's been at hte dsmig meetings for the discussions about ds/autism, > so I think your concerns would be well-received. I " m not sure how to > contact him, though. I can work on this..... > > j > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 31, 2001 Report Share Posted March 31, 2001 , thank you for suggesting Dr.Fagan. I had totally forgotten that we have an expert in our province. Boy does God work quick, only 10 mins ago I was praying for the route to go, and here's my answer. thanks again, cheryl Cheryl > Cheryl, > > Just had a thought on a doctor that may help you. I'm not sure where in BC you live, but there is a Dr. Fagan in Vancouver or . I heard him speak at a DS conference in Toronto, and thought he was a fantastic speaker. When I went to Vancouver half a year later, I tried to get an appointment with him (no luck, though). I'm not sure if he has alot of knowledge with the dual diagnosis, but he knows DS like the back of his hand. Hope that helps (well only if you live in Vancouver) > > , mom to Sara and > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 31, 2001 Report Share Posted March 31, 2001 , thank you for suggesting Dr.Fagan. I had totally forgotten that we have an expert in our province. Boy does God work quick, only 10 mins ago I was praying for the route to go, and here's my answer. thanks again, cheryl Cheryl > Cheryl, > > Just had a thought on a doctor that may help you. I'm not sure where in BC you live, but there is a Dr. Fagan in Vancouver or . I heard him speak at a DS conference in Toronto, and thought he was a fantastic speaker. When I went to Vancouver half a year later, I tried to get an appointment with him (no luck, though). I'm not sure if he has alot of knowledge with the dual diagnosis, but he knows DS like the back of his hand. Hope that helps (well only if you live in Vancouver) > > , mom to Sara and > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 31, 2001 Report Share Posted March 31, 2001 At 09:05 PM 3/31/01 -0800, you wrote: > >You are pretty awesome you know. > Check's in the mail, Cheryl! SEriously, I have to dig out the dsmig stuff, but I think he's listed in there. As for the video conferencing, it's through DSRF. They say to call the office to sign up. I *really* wish I could see these! j Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 31, 2001 Report Share Posted March 31, 2001 At 09:05 PM 3/31/01 -0800, you wrote: > >You are pretty awesome you know. > Check's in the mail, Cheryl! SEriously, I have to dig out the dsmig stuff, but I think he's listed in there. As for the video conferencing, it's through DSRF. They say to call the office to sign up. I *really* wish I could see these! j Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2001 Report Share Posted April 2, 2001 Vancouver Island, that sounds fun. 4 hours isn't that long, but if you have little children then it is. --- Cheryl Magnussen <magnussen@...> wrote: > Hi Joan, > You know, I think he may be in , which is on > Vancouver Island, only > 4 hrs from where I live. Where ever he is though, I > will ask my ped to > refer us to him. Even if he is in Vancouver it is > not that far away from > us. Only a few hours. > > Thank you so much for this suggestion. Makes a lot > of sense. The video > series is put on by whom? DSRF? Do you know where > I can get further > details? Unfortunately I am booked to teach classes > some of those evenings > and wouldn't be able to do it all, but even would be > good. I was able to > talk a 3 month augmentative and alternative > communication course at our > local college last spring and that was great. > Learned alot about it as we > used the text, visual strategies for communication > as our main guide. > > Thank you for all your help, and please let me know > if you find out how to > contact Dr.Fagan and I will give his number to my > ped. > > You are pretty awesome you know. > > Thanks, Cheryl > Re: Cheryl > > > > At 09:33 PM 3/31/01 -0500, you wrote: > > >Just had a thought on a doctor that may help you. > I'm not sure where in > > BC you live, but there is a Dr. Fagan in > Vancouver or . I > > heard him speak at a DS conference in Toronto, and > thought he was a > > fantastic speaker. When I went to Vancouver half > a year later, I tried to > > get an appointment with him (no luck, though). > I'm not sure if he has > alot > > of knowledge with the dual diagnosis, but he knows > DS like the back of his > > hand. Hope that helps (well only if you live in > Vancouver) > > > > Oh! He is the nicest man! I went to a presentation > he did in BC on DS and > I > > think ADHD, but maybe autism. HE was > co-presenting. That's right, he did > > ADHD. I was struck by how well he understood his > topic and kids with DS. I > > know he's been at hte dsmig meetings for the > discussions about ds/autism, > > so I think your concerns would be well-received. > I " m not sure how to > > contact him, though. I can work on this..... > > > > j > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 25, 2001 Report Share Posted April 25, 2001 In a message dated 4/25/01 7:44:20 AM Eastern Daylight Time, bodyforlife writes: << I do, however, have 4 week pics I am going to post on the website - you can really, really see the difference in my back shot. Wish I knew how to get them side by side! >> Hi Cheryl. I saw your pics and WOW! What a huge difference in just 4 weeks. You must be SO proud. I could barely tell anything in my first 4 weeks but could after my 8 week pics. You might win the million after all! Glad to hear your business is doing so great. 2001 might be your year! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 25, 2001 Report Share Posted April 25, 2001 In a message dated 4/25/01 7:44:20 AM Eastern Daylight Time, bodyforlife writes: << I do, however, have 4 week pics I am going to post on the website - you can really, really see the difference in my back shot. Wish I knew how to get them side by side! >> Hi Cheryl. I saw your pics and WOW! What a huge difference in just 4 weeks. You must be SO proud. I could barely tell anything in my first 4 weeks but could after my 8 week pics. You might win the million after all! Glad to hear your business is doing so great. 2001 might be your year! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 26, 2001 Report Share Posted April 26, 2001 ....But, tonight she ran for it and kept standing in front of it while I mowed the lawn. Played right beside it with no fear what so ever. I kept having to stop it and tell her to move so she wouldn't get hurt from it. WEIRD. She had absolutely no fear of it whatsoever. Almost like she swung to the other end of the pendulum on this one. Hi Cheryl, Boy, that's so scary, isn't it! doesn't like loud noises either, but he will go to fire (like a candle or the stove, etc) and think nothing of trying to put his face up to it. Like you said, they have NO fear. Terry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 26, 2001 Report Share Posted April 26, 2001 Cheryl, I wish I knew! The only thing I know to do with is to make sure that someone is watching him every minute, literally! He doesn't get hot, sharp anything like that. I put some things in the bedroom when he was in the dining room and heard glass break. My heart stopped! I ran to the dining room and he was standing there with a sharp piece of glass. I yelled at him to stand still because there was glass all over the floor and he just looked at me. Thank God I was able to get to him quickly before he took a step or before he put the glass in his mouth. Turned out someone had left a glass on the counter and he had grabbed it, hitting it on the counter. I know it added a few more gray hairs to my head! LOL If he's outside, we have to watch him every minute because he will grab anything. We live in a rural area and there are a lot of spiders around. I am afraid he will grab at a web and get bitten by something. shudder! I just don't know how to get through to him because it's not like I can say " owie " and have it mean anything. He hits, pinches, and bites himself and bangs his head...so obviously pain has a different meaning for him. We opted not to have a pellet stove in our house for that reason. I guess prevention is my only solution at this point. Wish I could be of more help, but I am lost with this too! Terry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2001 Report Share Posted June 4, 2001 Cheryl, I want to wish you the best on friday. I too in time will need to do my tummy and my arms, but it will be awhile yet. since jan26 I had my MGB with DrR and I was 297 and now I am 235, already my arms hang a lot and my belly always did and now it is worse, I always get all read and chafed under the folds of skin. Let me know when you are back home how you feel and how it was. Until then you are in my prayers and I wish you the best. Rosemary Commisso Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 9, 2001 Report Share Posted June 9, 2001 Cheryl, You may not remember me. I met you at RDU a couple of months ago, I was the blonde with the famous Beth Brown. I just wanted to let you know I am so sorry for the trouble you are having " getting Rudie legal " . I remember you tellling me your amazing love story that night at The Italian Chop House. I hope and pray that you will be able to get everything worked out real soon. I really enjoyed meeting you! Hope to see you soon. I had a blast with you crazy bad girls!!! Dana what a day > Today has been a very emotional day for me. I've had so much to deal with > all during the joys of PMS, I might add!! > > As most of you know, my husband is from Europe, Holland specifically. We are > going through the immigration process to get him a green card. NO, you don't > automatically get one when you come here and marry a citizen, and NO you > don't become a citizen when you marry a citizen. It is a long drawn out > complicated expensive, hurry up and wait process. > > This week we go for our " interview " . We are to bring documentation of our > lives together. Pictures, debts, bills, mortgage stuff, bank accounts, etc. > The hardest thing today has been going through a box of pictures and seeing > looking at pictures of my now deceased parents. My Dad when he was smiling > and happy, when he was sick and weak. When he was escorting down the aisle > at my wedding. So many memories. Also the same of my Mama. In addition to > that, I had the opportunuity to look at many many " fat " pictures of myself > from months, and a few years ago. I sure have changed, I'm wondering if they > will believe they are me!!! That would be a hoot wouldn't it?? > > I've experienced nearly every emotion today you can experience, from joy, to > sadness,immense happiness to grief, laughter and disbelief. I'm wore out but > I'm sticking to my POINTS!! > > Cheryl > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 2001 Report Share Posted June 10, 2001 Dana, Of course I remember you g/f. I just didn't remember your name to associate it with the name on the list here. But I did remember YOU. I have pics with you in it. And yes, those are some WILD and CRAZY girls .... They are like a lifeline to me at times. Yes, I hope all the legal issues are resolved soon also. I'm tired of going thr all the hoops just so I can keep my husband in this country legally. Take care and thanks for reminding me who you are!!! Cheryl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 2001 Report Share Posted June 15, 2001 Yeah Cheryl, Where were you when I needed some help?????? You were off with Blair while I had this MASSIVE undertaking in front of me. And all Dana would do was be the look out person. Now I know I've wiped a lot of hineys in my 50 years but most of them have been under three years old. And they weren't wiped in the stairwell of the mall's parking garage. There are some friends you just can't count on. Even Flo was off somewhere else struttin' her size 12's. Beth's True Blue Friend, Genz > Cheryl, > > Man I hate you missed that episode. It was quite an experience. I can only > say I have had sooooo much respect for Genz ever since that day. Boy was I > ever glad I was just the " watch for people coming person " and not the actual > " wiper " . Some day when you are much older I will tell you the whole sordid > story. > > Hope to see you soon! > Dana > PS -how did things go with Immigration? > > Re: Re: Celebration > > > > <<<Remember when I had to wipe the chocolate off of Beth's white > > pants, in the stairwell at the mall. I'll NEVER forget those big white > > buns staring me in the face....:-)The things you do for friends that > > you've never laid eyes on before. Wow, what a memory. > > > > > > Love, > > Genz~~~Congrats on the size 14's>>> > > > > Genz, where the heck was I during this umm occasion??? I guess I was > > shopping til I dropped finding something to wear that fitted .....hehe > > > > Cheryl jus wonder'n > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 2001 Report Share Posted June 15, 2001 Cheryl, Man I hate you missed that episode. It was quite an experience. I can only say I have had sooooo much respect for Genz ever since that day. Boy was I ever glad I was just the " watch for people coming person " and not the actual " wiper " . Some day when you are much older I will tell you the whole sordid story. Hope to see you soon! Dana PS -how did things go with Immigration? Re: Re: Celebration > <<<Remember when I had to wipe the chocolate off of Beth's white > pants, in the stairwell at the mall. I'll NEVER forget those big white > buns staring me in the face....:-)The things you do for friends that > you've never laid eyes on before. Wow, what a memory. > > > Love, > Genz~~~Congrats on the size 14's>>> > > Genz, where the heck was I during this umm occasion??? I guess I was > shopping til I dropped finding something to wear that fitted ....hehe > > Cheryl jus wonder'n > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2001 Report Share Posted June 16, 2001 Cheryl! It is GOOD to have you back!! HUGS aW MGB 5/28/00 214/115ish lbs Re: Re: Celebration > > > > <<<Remember when I had to wipe the chocolate off of Beth's white > > pants, in the stairwell at the mall. I'll NEVER forget those big white > > buns staring me in the face....:-)The things you do for friends that > > you've never laid eyes on before. Wow, what a memory. > > > > > > Love, > > Genz~~~Congrats on the size 14's>>> > > > > Genz, where the heck was I during this umm occasion??? I guess I was > > shopping til I dropped finding something to wear that fitted ....hehe > > > > Cheryl jus wonder'n > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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