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At 08:48 PM 12/03/2001 +0000, you wrote:

>I called today for an appointment(check out a bone issue) for my daughter an

>learned that the nurse practitioner she had been seeing was no longer

>working there. This is really bad news because the practitioner was really

>cool with the " no vaccinating " thing. It is also bad because we have not

>been to a well baby visit since she was around seven or eight months (she is

>16 months). So they set us up with a new doctor and I am now faced with the

> " why don't you vaccinate and why didn't she come for her well baby visits "

>disscusion. I am cool with the whole religious vac question, but I had to

>think about the well baby visit quesition. I asked my husband how could we

>explain way she had not had her check ups. We decided to say that that her

>uncle in Virginia is a pediatrician (he is a surgeon)and he has been

>checking her out (this is partly true). Any one else had to deal with

>explaining why they missed well baby visits and check ups?

Its unbelievable - where else do you have to explain yourself.

Do you have to explain yourself to the gasoline station why you don't have

a Ford even though he thinks you should have one?

Do you have to explain yourself at the grocery store when you don't buy

everything they think you should.

It is ludicrous. And people think we live in a FREE country! Hah!

Actually, not HAH, tragic.

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> Sherri said:

> Its unbelievable - where else do you have to explain yourself.

> Do you have to explain yourself to the gasoline station why you

don't have

> a Ford even though he thinks you should have one?

> Do you have to explain yourself at the grocery store when you don't

buy

> everything they think you should.

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> It is ludicrous. And people think we live in a FREE country! Hah!

> Actually, not HAH, tragic.

That is so true.

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How about " Nunya " ? as in " None of your business? " How about finding a naturopath

or HP and getting their referrals? You are just potentially heading for a

headache. And possibly they'll comment and not ask as it's none of their

business anyhow. Or a diplomatic " I'd rather just discuss the issue at hand " .

Be creative! Never had to deal with it too much. I've just stated that

children were unvaxxed, rather not discuss it(or stated they weren't proven to

be 100% safe or effective), and thank you, I'll think about it. A lot of

parents don't do well baby as they must work or can't afford it. it's not a

law!

Laurie>Oh

I am now faced with the

" why don't you vaccinate and why didn't she come for her well baby visits "

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>> " why don't you vaccinate and why didn't she come for her well baby visits "

>>disscusion. I am cool with the whole religious vac question, but I had to

>>think about the well baby visit quesition. I asked my husband how could we

>>explain way she had not had her check ups. We decided to say that that her

>>uncle in Virginia is a pediatrician (he is a surgeon)and he has been

>>checking her out (this is partly true). Any one else had to deal with

>>explaining why they missed well baby visits and check ups?

>

>Its unbelievable - where else do you have to explain yourself.

>Do you have to explain yourself to the gasoline station why you don't have

>a Ford even though he thinks you should have one?

>Do you have to explain yourself at the grocery store when you don't buy

>everything they think you should.

>

>It is ludicrous. And people think we live in a FREE country! Hah!

>Actually, not HAH, tragic.

Ask your doctor why 2/3 of doctors refuse the Hepatitis B for THEMSELVES!

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In a message dated 12/9/2001 8:40:55 PM Central Standard Time, moira@...

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> Ask your doctor why 2/3 of doctors refuse the Hepatitis B for THEMSELVES!

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Ooooh and here's a good one! After you ask about HepB, you can ask why most

OBs are not vaxxed for rubella when they could conceivably pass rubella on to

a pregnant woman. Got that info from Dr. Mendelsohn's newsletter.

Kathleen

" We child-proofed our house 3 years ago but they're still getting in! "

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Is someone continuing his newsletter? Used to get a few of them from my

chiropractors 14 years ago but didn't know if it was still available. And now I

would love to have my own subsription...

Laurie>Oh

. Got that info from Dr. Mendelsohn's newsletter.

Kathleen

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I don't believe his newsletter has been continued. The mold was broken after

Dr. Mendelsohn was made. :) So I don't think anyone else could have done it

justice.

I purchased a bound set of his newsletters from Amazon.com It was all the

newsletters that had an article about vaccines.

If anyone is interested, you can find it by doing an Amazon book search for

Mendelsohn and it will be one of the items to come up. Most reasonably

priced.

Kathleen

In a message dated 12/28/2001 3:21:10 AM Central Standard Time,

mlandes2@... writes:

> Is someone continuing his newsletter? Used to get a few of them from my

> chiropractors 14 years ago but didn't know if it was still available. And

> now I would love to have my own subsription...

> Laurie>Oh

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> . Got that info from Dr. Mendelsohn's newsletter.

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> Kathleen

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She told me that she could give me drugs that

> should knock out both my Candida krusei and the Citrobacter

freundii > (the bad bacteria in me) in just a few days! I was

like, 'Maybe I > should reconsider... " and she said to go home and

think about it. She > said she'd give me 4 tabs of Ciprofloxacin at

500 (500 what, I don't> know) and follow it with 2 tabs of Diflucan

at 300.

Bob: Tracey, I remember Last year Rich taking a bunch of stuff to

kill his candida, I think he used the word " bomb " . I have often

wondered why we couldn't kill all of the bad bacteria quickly, like

your dr suggest, then repopulate heavily with friendly flora?

The Dallas Morning News article saying there is more than 500 strains

of good flora makes me wonder if any product contain all 500?

Bob

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I'm glad you found someone who listens and understands many of your problems.

However it concerns me that she is encouraging you to exercise. Unless I am

misinterpreting, maybe she is just saying not to lie down every minute, that it

is good to walk if you can, etc. But if she is encouraging exercise without

warnings then she doesn't understand CS afterall. Unless maybe you have FM in

which case mild exercise is more often recommended. You didn't say which.

Thanks,

Doris

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I don't know about 500 flora. Maybe they put them in there, but I would

think at least half would die right off anyway. I could be wrong, this

is just what I thought I'd read about probiotics.

As far as the bomb, I've decided against it. I really have strong

reactions to antibiotics. I feel I'm making headway with the Caprylic

acid and Oregano oil, just not as fast as I would like. I'm afraid of

taking some " bomb " and undoing all the good I've done so far. I've been

really diligent about my diet for 5 months now.

I hope Rich answers and tells us what he thinks of da bomb :)

Tracey

Bob wrote:

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> She told me that she could give me drugs that

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>

>>should knock out both my Candida krusei and the Citrobacter

>>

>>

>freundii > (the bad bacteria in me) in just a few days! I was

>like, 'Maybe I > should reconsider... " and she said to go home and

>think about it. She > said she'd give me 4 tabs of Ciprofloxacin at

>500 (500 what, I don't> know) and follow it with 2 tabs of Diflucan

>at 300.

>

>Bob: Tracey, I remember Last year Rich taking a bunch of stuff to

>kill his candida, I think he used the word " bomb " . I have often

>wondered why we couldn't kill all of the bad bacteria quickly, like

>your dr suggest, then repopulate heavily with friendly flora?

>

>The Dallas Morning News article saying there is more than 500 strains

>of good flora makes me wonder if any product contain all 500?

>

>Bob

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>This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences with each

other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in any treatment

discussed here, please consult your doctor.

>

>

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Doris,

I agree with you that she doesn't know what she's doing in regards to

CFIDS. See, I was actually looking for a primary care physician for my

husband and me just for emergencies really. She came on like

gangbusters and wanted to " cure " me. (my wording, not hers). I slept

on it and feel completely different today. I already have a CFIDS/FMS

specialist, Dr. Rosenbaum, you might recall now. He's willing to treat

me naturally and doesn't bombard me with statements like " You shouldn't

eat meat! " " You're out of shape! " " NO sugar! " etc... I'm still

overweight even though I eat only 1400 to 1600 calories a day and that's

almost all meat, eggs and veggies. I don't think she believed me. Her

heart's in the right place, but she's not the doctor for me.

Tracey

Doris Brown wrote:

>I'm glad you found someone who listens and understands many of your problems.

However it concerns me that she is encouraging you to exercise. Unless I am

misinterpreting, maybe she is just saying not to lie down every minute, that it

is good to walk if you can, etc. But if she is encouraging exercise without

warnings then she doesn't understand CS afterall. Unless maybe you have FM in

which case mild exercise is more often recommended. You didn't say which.

>Thanks,

>Doris

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Tracey, Bob and the group,

When I reported " bombing " my yeast infection with several natural

anti-yeast substances at the same time (caprylic acid, peppermint

oil, fresh garlic, grapefruit seed extract, and some others I can't

remember now), I was describing what I did when I had a yeast

infection associated with a colorectal cancer tumor. I was awaiting

surgery to have the tumor removed, but in the meantime the yeast was

apparently living in the crevice formed by the tumor. I just got

fed up with the bloating that the yeast caused, which was causing me

constant pain and preventing me from getting any sleep. I decided

to throw everything at it that my available books said could kill

yeasts, and that I could buy at the local health food store, all at

the same time. I should add that I also gave myself an enema with a

small amount of DMSO in water. In my case, this treatment somehow

worked. I don't know whether it affected my beneficial bacteria or

not, but it certainly " bombed " the yeast. A lot of very black stuff

came out for about a day or so afterward, and the bloating stopped

abruptly, for which I was very grateful.

I'm not saying that this would be the best approach for everyone. I

think the ideal approach, if you can do it, is to have your yeast

cultured and have its sensitivities tested to various antifungal

substances (such as Great Smokies lab does), and then use the one

it's most sensitive to. One that seems to show up as being

effective on quite a few of the test reports that I've seen is the

herb uva ursi. If I had had a more cooperative doctor and more

patience, I might have tried this approach, but having gone without

sleep for a while, my patience was pretty well exhausted, and I

decided it was going to be the yeast or me, and no holds were barred!

Rich

> > She told me that she could give me drugs that

> >

> >

> >>should knock out both my Candida krusei and the Citrobacter

> >>

> >>

> >freundii > (the bad bacteria in me) in just a few days! I was

> >like, 'Maybe I > should reconsider... " and she said to go home

and

> >think about it. She > said she'd give me 4 tabs of Ciprofloxacin

at

> >500 (500 what, I don't> know) and follow it with 2 tabs of

Diflucan

> >at 300.

> >

> >Bob: Tracey, I remember Last year Rich taking a bunch of stuff to

> >kill his candida, I think he used the word " bomb " . I have often

> >wondered why we couldn't kill all of the bad bacteria quickly,

like

> >your dr suggest, then repopulate heavily with friendly flora?

> >

> >The Dallas Morning News article saying there is more than 500

strains

> >of good flora makes me wonder if any product contain all 500?

> >

> >Bob

> >

> >

> >

> >This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences

with each other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested

in any treatment discussed here, please consult your doctor.

> >

> >

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Good for you. I am glad you are getting to the CAUSE of your problem. I am

glad you have what we all seek " validation " . I am sorry to hear that you are

sick though so please don't misunderstand me.

I hope you feel better.

Stella

New doctor

Hi,

I am also struggling with these drugs. I finally saw a new doctor who

diagnosed me with candida overgrowth which is the cause of my obesity (

because of clozaril ). He put me on a diet to starve the overgrowth i.e., no

sugar, no yeast, no alcohol or foods like pasta. I have drastically reduced

my consumption of these items and can already see the fungus coming out in

my stool. And so I will go onto elimination of this nasty overgrowth. I have

hope for the first time. I am praying that the hope I have will help me

defeat the cravings and discomfort. I am told I will feel better in a week.

I am floored. One therapist told me I overate because no one had ever been

nice to me effectively saying there is nothing I can do to stop this. And

other people told me that clozaril causes weight gain again implying there

is nothing I can do. This doctor has promised he will talk to my

psychiatrist if I can adher to the diet for a month and if I show

improvement. I do believe in recovery because I have shown positive signs of

it before from reading a book called Invisible Illnesses by Gloria Gilbere.

It is like the system has finally given me permission to believe in the

book. When I was in the treatment center the doctor there said my physical

symptoms were hallucinations and none of the psychiatrists I have seen since

would offer any other opinion. I don't like clozaril. I do not have to

accept my subsequent physical deterioration as a sign of age and just accept

it. I thank you for all the information I received at this web site. My god

these people blame and blame the victim. I have no clue why.

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Good for you. I am glad you are getting to the CAUSE of your problem. I am

glad you have what we all seek " validation " . I am sorry to hear that you are

sick though so please don't misunderstand me.

I hope you feel better.

Stella

New doctor

Hi,

I am also struggling with these drugs. I finally saw a new doctor who

diagnosed me with candida overgrowth which is the cause of my obesity (

because of clozaril ). He put me on a diet to starve the overgrowth i.e., no

sugar, no yeast, no alcohol or foods like pasta. I have drastically reduced

my consumption of these items and can already see the fungus coming out in

my stool. And so I will go onto elimination of this nasty overgrowth. I have

hope for the first time. I am praying that the hope I have will help me

defeat the cravings and discomfort. I am told I will feel better in a week.

I am floored. One therapist told me I overate because no one had ever been

nice to me effectively saying there is nothing I can do to stop this. And

other people told me that clozaril causes weight gain again implying there

is nothing I can do. This doctor has promised he will talk to my

psychiatrist if I can adher to the diet for a month and if I show

improvement. I do believe in recovery because I have shown positive signs of

it before from reading a book called Invisible Illnesses by Gloria Gilbere.

It is like the system has finally given me permission to believe in the

book. When I was in the treatment center the doctor there said my physical

symptoms were hallucinations and none of the psychiatrists I have seen since

would offer any other opinion. I don't like clozaril. I do not have to

accept my subsequent physical deterioration as a sign of age and just accept

it. I thank you for all the information I received at this web site. My god

these people blame and blame the victim. I have no clue why.

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Good for you. I am glad you are getting to the CAUSE of your problem. I am

glad you have what we all seek " validation " . I am sorry to hear that you are

sick though so please don't misunderstand me.

I hope you feel better.

Stella

New doctor

Hi,

I am also struggling with these drugs. I finally saw a new doctor who

diagnosed me with candida overgrowth which is the cause of my obesity (

because of clozaril ). He put me on a diet to starve the overgrowth i.e., no

sugar, no yeast, no alcohol or foods like pasta. I have drastically reduced

my consumption of these items and can already see the fungus coming out in

my stool. And so I will go onto elimination of this nasty overgrowth. I have

hope for the first time. I am praying that the hope I have will help me

defeat the cravings and discomfort. I am told I will feel better in a week.

I am floored. One therapist told me I overate because no one had ever been

nice to me effectively saying there is nothing I can do to stop this. And

other people told me that clozaril causes weight gain again implying there

is nothing I can do. This doctor has promised he will talk to my

psychiatrist if I can adher to the diet for a month and if I show

improvement. I do believe in recovery because I have shown positive signs of

it before from reading a book called Invisible Illnesses by Gloria Gilbere.

It is like the system has finally given me permission to believe in the

book. When I was in the treatment center the doctor there said my physical

symptoms were hallucinations and none of the psychiatrists I have seen since

would offer any other opinion. I don't like clozaril. I do not have to

accept my subsequent physical deterioration as a sign of age and just accept

it. I thank you for all the information I received at this web site. My god

these people blame and blame the victim. I have no clue why.

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Good for you. I am glad you are getting to the CAUSE of your problem. I am

glad you have what we all seek " validation " . I am sorry to hear that you are

sick though so please don't misunderstand me.

I hope you feel better.

Stella

New doctor

Hi,

I am also struggling with these drugs. I finally saw a new doctor who

diagnosed me with candida overgrowth which is the cause of my obesity (

because of clozaril ). He put me on a diet to starve the overgrowth i.e., no

sugar, no yeast, no alcohol or foods like pasta. I have drastically reduced

my consumption of these items and can already see the fungus coming out in

my stool. And so I will go onto elimination of this nasty overgrowth. I have

hope for the first time. I am praying that the hope I have will help me

defeat the cravings and discomfort. I am told I will feel better in a week.

I am floored. One therapist told me I overate because no one had ever been

nice to me effectively saying there is nothing I can do to stop this. And

other people told me that clozaril causes weight gain again implying there

is nothing I can do. This doctor has promised he will talk to my

psychiatrist if I can adher to the diet for a month and if I show

improvement. I do believe in recovery because I have shown positive signs of

it before from reading a book called Invisible Illnesses by Gloria Gilbere.

It is like the system has finally given me permission to believe in the

book. When I was in the treatment center the doctor there said my physical

symptoms were hallucinations and none of the psychiatrists I have seen since

would offer any other opinion. I don't like clozaril. I do not have to

accept my subsequent physical deterioration as a sign of age and just accept

it. I thank you for all the information I received at this web site. My god

these people blame and blame the victim. I have no clue why.

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No I don't misunderstand. I am sorry I was sick with no hope. I don't mind being

sick with hope and validation. Thanks for your reply.

New doctor

Hi,

I am also struggling with these drugs. I finally saw a new doctor who

diagnosed me with candida overgrowth which is the cause of my obesity (

because of clozaril ). He put me on a diet to starve the overgrowth i.e., no

sugar, no yeast, no alcohol or foods like pasta. I have drastically reduced

my consumption of these items and can already see the fungus coming out in

my stool. And so I will go onto elimination of this nasty overgrowth. I have

hope for the first time. I am praying that the hope I have will help me

defeat the cravings and discomfort. I am told I will feel better in a week.

I am floored. One therapist told me I overate because no one had ever been

nice to me effectively saying there is nothing I can do to stop this. And

other people told me that clozaril causes weight gain again implying there

is nothing I can do. This doctor has promised he will talk to my

psychiatrist if I can adher to the diet for a month and if I show

improvement. I do believe in recovery because I have shown positive signs of

it before from reading a book called Invisible Illnesses by Gloria Gilbere.

It is like the system has finally given me permission to believe in the

book. When I was in the treatment center the doctor there said my physical

symptoms were hallucinations and none of the psychiatrists I have seen since

would offer any other opinion. I don't like clozaril. I do not have to

accept my subsequent physical deterioration as a sign of age and just accept

it. I thank you for all the information I received at this web site. My god

these people blame and blame the victim. I have no clue why.

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No I don't misunderstand. I am sorry I was sick with no hope. I don't mind being

sick with hope and validation. Thanks for your reply.

New doctor

Hi,

I am also struggling with these drugs. I finally saw a new doctor who

diagnosed me with candida overgrowth which is the cause of my obesity (

because of clozaril ). He put me on a diet to starve the overgrowth i.e., no

sugar, no yeast, no alcohol or foods like pasta. I have drastically reduced

my consumption of these items and can already see the fungus coming out in

my stool. And so I will go onto elimination of this nasty overgrowth. I have

hope for the first time. I am praying that the hope I have will help me

defeat the cravings and discomfort. I am told I will feel better in a week.

I am floored. One therapist told me I overate because no one had ever been

nice to me effectively saying there is nothing I can do to stop this. And

other people told me that clozaril causes weight gain again implying there

is nothing I can do. This doctor has promised he will talk to my

psychiatrist if I can adher to the diet for a month and if I show

improvement. I do believe in recovery because I have shown positive signs of

it before from reading a book called Invisible Illnesses by Gloria Gilbere.

It is like the system has finally given me permission to believe in the

book. When I was in the treatment center the doctor there said my physical

symptoms were hallucinations and none of the psychiatrists I have seen since

would offer any other opinion. I don't like clozaril. I do not have to

accept my subsequent physical deterioration as a sign of age and just accept

it. I thank you for all the information I received at this web site. My god

these people blame and blame the victim. I have no clue why.

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No I don't misunderstand. I am sorry I was sick with no hope. I don't mind being

sick with hope and validation. Thanks for your reply.

New doctor

Hi,

I am also struggling with these drugs. I finally saw a new doctor who

diagnosed me with candida overgrowth which is the cause of my obesity (

because of clozaril ). He put me on a diet to starve the overgrowth i.e., no

sugar, no yeast, no alcohol or foods like pasta. I have drastically reduced

my consumption of these items and can already see the fungus coming out in

my stool. And so I will go onto elimination of this nasty overgrowth. I have

hope for the first time. I am praying that the hope I have will help me

defeat the cravings and discomfort. I am told I will feel better in a week.

I am floored. One therapist told me I overate because no one had ever been

nice to me effectively saying there is nothing I can do to stop this. And

other people told me that clozaril causes weight gain again implying there

is nothing I can do. This doctor has promised he will talk to my

psychiatrist if I can adher to the diet for a month and if I show

improvement. I do believe in recovery because I have shown positive signs of

it before from reading a book called Invisible Illnesses by Gloria Gilbere.

It is like the system has finally given me permission to believe in the

book. When I was in the treatment center the doctor there said my physical

symptoms were hallucinations and none of the psychiatrists I have seen since

would offer any other opinion. I don't like clozaril. I do not have to

accept my subsequent physical deterioration as a sign of age and just accept

it. I thank you for all the information I received at this web site. My god

these people blame and blame the victim. I have no clue why.

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No I don't misunderstand. I am sorry I was sick with no hope. I don't mind being

sick with hope and validation. Thanks for your reply.

New doctor

Hi,

I am also struggling with these drugs. I finally saw a new doctor who

diagnosed me with candida overgrowth which is the cause of my obesity (

because of clozaril ). He put me on a diet to starve the overgrowth i.e., no

sugar, no yeast, no alcohol or foods like pasta. I have drastically reduced

my consumption of these items and can already see the fungus coming out in

my stool. And so I will go onto elimination of this nasty overgrowth. I have

hope for the first time. I am praying that the hope I have will help me

defeat the cravings and discomfort. I am told I will feel better in a week.

I am floored. One therapist told me I overate because no one had ever been

nice to me effectively saying there is nothing I can do to stop this. And

other people told me that clozaril causes weight gain again implying there

is nothing I can do. This doctor has promised he will talk to my

psychiatrist if I can adher to the diet for a month and if I show

improvement. I do believe in recovery because I have shown positive signs of

it before from reading a book called Invisible Illnesses by Gloria Gilbere.

It is like the system has finally given me permission to believe in the

book. When I was in the treatment center the doctor there said my physical

symptoms were hallucinations and none of the psychiatrists I have seen since

would offer any other opinion. I don't like clozaril. I do not have to

accept my subsequent physical deterioration as a sign of age and just accept

it. I thank you for all the information I received at this web site. My god

these people blame and blame the victim. I have no clue why.

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Hi diana,

You found a good doctor! This is *real* advice and it

will probably save your life. *If* they had addressed

this problem (of fungus over growth) in the beginning

you would have gotten well instead of as you are now.

You will probably feel much worse before you get

better. I could barely walk for about 2 weeks when i

first started the anti-fungal diet. It effected the

lymph nodes in my legs. After the die off, i started

feeling better and better and i looked better then i

did when i was a teen. Your on the right track, so

keep going!

Connie

--- " L. Chambers " <dlchambers@...>

wrote:

---------------------------------

Hi,

I am also struggling with these drugs. I finally saw a

new doctor who diagnosed me with candida overgrowth

which is the cause of my obesity ( because of clozaril

). He put me on a diet to starve the overgrowth i.e.,

no sugar, no yeast, no alcohol or foods like pasta. I

have drastically reduced my consumption of these items

and can already see the fungus coming out in my stool.

And so I will go onto elimination of this nasty

overgrowth. I have hope for the first time. I am

praying that the hope I have will help me defeat the

cravings and discomfort. I am told I will feel better

in a week. I am floored. One therapist told me I

overate because no one had ever been nice to me

effectively saying there is nothing I can do to stop

this. And other people told me that clozaril causes

weight gain again implying there is nothing I can do.

This doctor has promised he will talk to my

psychiatrist if I can adher to the diet for a month

and if I show improvement. I do believe in recovery

because I have shown positive signs of it before from

reading a book called Invisible Illnesses by Gloria

Gilbere. It is like the system has finally given me

permission to believe in the book. When I was in the

treatment center the doctor there said my physical

symptoms were hallucinations and none of the

psychiatrists I have seen since would offer any other

opinion. I don't like clozaril. I do not have to

accept my subsequent physical deterioration as a sign

of age and just accept it. I thank you for all the

information I received at this web site. My god these

people blame and blame the victim. I have no clue why.

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Hi diana,

You found a good doctor! This is *real* advice and it

will probably save your life. *If* they had addressed

this problem (of fungus over growth) in the beginning

you would have gotten well instead of as you are now.

You will probably feel much worse before you get

better. I could barely walk for about 2 weeks when i

first started the anti-fungal diet. It effected the

lymph nodes in my legs. After the die off, i started

feeling better and better and i looked better then i

did when i was a teen. Your on the right track, so

keep going!

Connie

--- " L. Chambers " <dlchambers@...>

wrote:

---------------------------------

Hi,

I am also struggling with these drugs. I finally saw a

new doctor who diagnosed me with candida overgrowth

which is the cause of my obesity ( because of clozaril

). He put me on a diet to starve the overgrowth i.e.,

no sugar, no yeast, no alcohol or foods like pasta. I

have drastically reduced my consumption of these items

and can already see the fungus coming out in my stool.

And so I will go onto elimination of this nasty

overgrowth. I have hope for the first time. I am

praying that the hope I have will help me defeat the

cravings and discomfort. I am told I will feel better

in a week. I am floored. One therapist told me I

overate because no one had ever been nice to me

effectively saying there is nothing I can do to stop

this. And other people told me that clozaril causes

weight gain again implying there is nothing I can do.

This doctor has promised he will talk to my

psychiatrist if I can adher to the diet for a month

and if I show improvement. I do believe in recovery

because I have shown positive signs of it before from

reading a book called Invisible Illnesses by Gloria

Gilbere. It is like the system has finally given me

permission to believe in the book. When I was in the

treatment center the doctor there said my physical

symptoms were hallucinations and none of the

psychiatrists I have seen since would offer any other

opinion. I don't like clozaril. I do not have to

accept my subsequent physical deterioration as a sign

of age and just accept it. I thank you for all the

information I received at this web site. My god these

people blame and blame the victim. I have no clue why.

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Hi diana,

You found a good doctor! This is *real* advice and it

will probably save your life. *If* they had addressed

this problem (of fungus over growth) in the beginning

you would have gotten well instead of as you are now.

You will probably feel much worse before you get

better. I could barely walk for about 2 weeks when i

first started the anti-fungal diet. It effected the

lymph nodes in my legs. After the die off, i started

feeling better and better and i looked better then i

did when i was a teen. Your on the right track, so

keep going!

Connie

--- " L. Chambers " <dlchambers@...>

wrote:

---------------------------------

Hi,

I am also struggling with these drugs. I finally saw a

new doctor who diagnosed me with candida overgrowth

which is the cause of my obesity ( because of clozaril

). He put me on a diet to starve the overgrowth i.e.,

no sugar, no yeast, no alcohol or foods like pasta. I

have drastically reduced my consumption of these items

and can already see the fungus coming out in my stool.

And so I will go onto elimination of this nasty

overgrowth. I have hope for the first time. I am

praying that the hope I have will help me defeat the

cravings and discomfort. I am told I will feel better

in a week. I am floored. One therapist told me I

overate because no one had ever been nice to me

effectively saying there is nothing I can do to stop

this. And other people told me that clozaril causes

weight gain again implying there is nothing I can do.

This doctor has promised he will talk to my

psychiatrist if I can adher to the diet for a month

and if I show improvement. I do believe in recovery

because I have shown positive signs of it before from

reading a book called Invisible Illnesses by Gloria

Gilbere. It is like the system has finally given me

permission to believe in the book. When I was in the

treatment center the doctor there said my physical

symptoms were hallucinations and none of the

psychiatrists I have seen since would offer any other

opinion. I don't like clozaril. I do not have to

accept my subsequent physical deterioration as a sign

of age and just accept it. I thank you for all the

information I received at this web site. My god these

people blame and blame the victim. I have no clue why.

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Hi diana,

You found a good doctor! This is *real* advice and it

will probably save your life. *If* they had addressed

this problem (of fungus over growth) in the beginning

you would have gotten well instead of as you are now.

You will probably feel much worse before you get

better. I could barely walk for about 2 weeks when i

first started the anti-fungal diet. It effected the

lymph nodes in my legs. After the die off, i started

feeling better and better and i looked better then i

did when i was a teen. Your on the right track, so

keep going!

Connie

--- " L. Chambers " <dlchambers@...>

wrote:

---------------------------------

Hi,

I am also struggling with these drugs. I finally saw a

new doctor who diagnosed me with candida overgrowth

which is the cause of my obesity ( because of clozaril

). He put me on a diet to starve the overgrowth i.e.,

no sugar, no yeast, no alcohol or foods like pasta. I

have drastically reduced my consumption of these items

and can already see the fungus coming out in my stool.

And so I will go onto elimination of this nasty

overgrowth. I have hope for the first time. I am

praying that the hope I have will help me defeat the

cravings and discomfort. I am told I will feel better

in a week. I am floored. One therapist told me I

overate because no one had ever been nice to me

effectively saying there is nothing I can do to stop

this. And other people told me that clozaril causes

weight gain again implying there is nothing I can do.

This doctor has promised he will talk to my

psychiatrist if I can adher to the diet for a month

and if I show improvement. I do believe in recovery

because I have shown positive signs of it before from

reading a book called Invisible Illnesses by Gloria

Gilbere. It is like the system has finally given me

permission to believe in the book. When I was in the

treatment center the doctor there said my physical

symptoms were hallucinations and none of the

psychiatrists I have seen since would offer any other

opinion. I don't like clozaril. I do not have to

accept my subsequent physical deterioration as a sign

of age and just accept it. I thank you for all the

information I received at this web site. My god these

people blame and blame the victim. I have no clue why.

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Amy,

I can email Tess, the person I am sharing a room with at the conference. She

sees Weiler also...Have you tried kathy Antilla with the IDF in MPLS???? she

knows most physicians and may be a resource.

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